[000:00:00;00] of education in our country, the main session of the national multi-subject test nmt, we will call it that, starts today and will last until june 23. 284,000 entrants have previously registered for it , that is, despite the war, despite the difficulties, our ukrainian children, our ukrainian young people , continue to preserve and protect this desire for knowledge the desire for knowledge and this is extraordinary, it is very cool and i really hope that ukrainian universities will be able to process this number of people who want to receive higher education accessibility remained the accessibility of education in ukraine remained, but definitely all this will happen in new realities and

eh, shall we watch the material on this topic, colleagues , what do you say? okay, then, let's start conversations with the guest. to 2019 liliya hrynevych ms. liliya i congratulate you good day i congratulate all we the viewers are really starting today's national multi-subject test and i want to say that this test uh it has certain special features compared to last year, for the first time, there are threshold points, which consist precisely in the fact that you must answer correctly at least 10% of the questions in order to ultimately have the opportunity to receive a certificate, because last year, such

there were no threshold points at all, which lowered the quality of the applicant, because higher education must oblige a person to be ready to obtain an education at a university . and how do you assess how difficult this test is? will be for future applicants he is not as difficult as, for example, the external independent assessment was, this is connected, for example, with the fact that there are no open questions , because of the war itself, this system of the national multimedia test greatly simplified the path of the applicant, because he completes how many times he completes it from three subjects at the same time the test will last 180 minutes. and of course, in comparison with individual subjects of external independent assessment for which

you had to go and take them, write creative tasks accordingly, in this sense testing will be easier. oleksandr kondratyuk, an expert in educational issues, said that the multi-subject test of the 23rd year will be the toughest in all 15 years of testing. do you agree with him? i haven't heard his arguments. why does he think so? why should this test be the toughest? well, i i don’t think so. at least i don’t see such special signs that this test will be the toughest. of course, taking three subjects at the same time isn’t easy, but one way or another, it’s just that there will be such formats. and these are closed questions where you either set compliance or

you choose one answer out of four or five . these are the formats of the tasks. of course, this makes the testing itself easier. in addition , credit should be given to the ukrainian center for the evaluation of the quality of education and the regional center for giving the entrants the opportunity to prepare, and those who wanted could watch and pass . accordingly, trial testing in order to know your strengths and here you can only wish all applicants to correctly calculate these strengths because there is a limited time for three subjects and you need to follow it to try to solve as many tasks as possible or one of alexander's arguments refers to the fact that the tasks for graduates, i quote, will be of a profile level with open-ended answers, and the time allocated for their completion is four times less than it was at the external examination

. everything absolutely must be solved in order to get the maximum score, that is, there are tasks that are possible and more difficult, and the main difficulty here is primarily what i called limited time and three subjects. but in comparison the external examination required more time because, let's say, in this case, the ukrainian language. there will be only 30 questions. so, if it is 30 questions and there is no open task, then accordingly , the time is less from this point of view. the ukrainian center for evaluation of the quality of education tried to make the test valid. sorry for that. this special term, but it means that in just such a time, with such a structure of the test, we can

get more or less reliable information about the knowledge of our applicants. and let's ease his suffering for those who will not give up this test is what is offered in the ministry of education, what is offered in the second one? will there be a second chance or not? well, first of all, you need to remember that those who have already taken some kind of test can present the results of the zno or uh-e nmte of last year, that is, the previous ones the results of the external independent assessment for the 20th and 21st years, as well as the 2022 nmt are accepted, which means that you can choose which result you prefer , only those who, for one reason or another, unfortunately , will not be able to take participation in the main session

if this is a valid reason, there will be an additional session at which you can take this national multiplex test , that is, if the graduates can submit their results of the external independent independent evaluation for the past year, then in principle they may not take the new national multiplex test, i understood you correctly better and then choose those already results which er which will actually be better and give them more chances to enter great i hope your answer made it easier for many mmt although

you can prepare for this it is still not you know, a terrible tragedy, because there are other opportunities to get an education, if not a higher education, then a professional education, er, you should get a profession. especially since today, in the labor market, in particular, in ukraine , you can prepare yourself and find high-paying professions for qualified workers, where wages can to be even more than for specialists who have obtained a higher education, so you should not ignore the opportunity to study even if you do not enter the university, ms. lilia, well, taking into account all the innovations, taking into account in your opinion, the format of the national cartoon of the subject test will not fall. let's put it this way, the quality of the assessment of the knowledge of our entrants may, on the contrary, increase to the extent that we as a state and, accordingly

, you responded to this challenge in the conditions of war in the conditions of the post-kovid world in including long-distance learning and similar things , which, well, does not really contribute to obtaining a quality education, in your opinion, or with this format or these innovations, we at least make the situation a little easier, the war affected everything and, of course , it affected education and even in order to to prepare for this national multi-subject test it is necessary to take into account that all our entrants. they are, especially those who live now in ukraine. they also experience constant stress, also constant lack of sleep with these anxieties and so on, because it is clear that people have many emerging limitations related to with normal preparation, let's say routine, as it used to be before the entrance exams, but at the same time, we can say about some

positive things, uh, now all applicants take the test in a digital format, and i i think that after our comprehensive victory we will not change this format it will remain digital instead we will need to think about open tasks because before this test before this test in such an abbreviated format there may be complaints related to the fact that the test is not long enough what is in it three subjects are introduced at once. but it must be remembered that if our applicants are in temporary examination centers and are writing the test, and at this moment the air alarm sounds, the testing must stop and they go to the shelter, then it comes back again, this meant that the ukrainian center for the evaluation of the quality of education had limitations

, it was necessary to invite applicants only once in order not to put them at risk several times, so a format was found that is the most optimal for the situation we have. the main thing is that the expectations of some and the wishes of some politicians who said that let's cancel entrance testing during the war have not been fulfilled, because one way or another it creates a certain competition , transparency according to the results of access to budget places and of course stimulates our applicants to prepare for higher education ms. liliya and how much has the state order changed in particular at your university compared to last year , has it decreased or increased? it depends on the specialties, that is, for example, if we are talking about specialties that have separate

support of the state and are extremely needed , our institution is generally a communal property of the city of kyiv, and the city of kyiv is the founder of boris grinchenko kyiv university, for example, we have a state the order for preschool education for the training of pedagogical workers and this state order has sufficient volumes, on the other hand, the state order for those specialties that are very desirable, e.e., for some of them, at all, we do not have a state order, for example, e.e., such as foreign languages ​​or law, that is those specialties that applicants are willing to pay for obtaining such an education, in any case , it is necessary to understand that during the war, it is possible and i believe that it is right when the state should direct

a state order for the training of those specialists who will be very needed in the labor market of post-war ukraine, therefore, and without a doubt, these are engineering specialties , these are construction specialties, we also need to remember the development of vocational education, because today, if we analyze the labor market, the number of people who do not have workers are unemployed very often with a higher education and there are more of them than those who have a labor specialty. therefore , you know, this is such a task that must be looked at from different perspectives, mrs. lilia, i sincerely thank you for joining our broadcast and for the fact that yes the conditions of admission for future applicants were explained in detail. lilia hrynevych, for the first time, vice-rector of kyiv university named after borys grinchenko, the minister of education and science of ukraine from the years 16 to 19 was in direct contact with us. and now

khrystyna is joining us please, a lawyer at the georgian center for human rights and a member of the interdepartmental commission on the application and implementation of international humanitarian law in ukraine and the expert council of the representative of the president of ukraine in the autonomous republic crimea, kateryna, congratulations and in advance. thank you for contacting us where you are now. it is a dead night. as far as i understand , this is especially valuable. because it is morning here and people need information about what you came to the united states with, in particular. good afternoon. thank you for the invitation, i am really now in your tone, we have returned from new york, where we were on advocacy trips to the un institution, as well as to the mission of the un state member, and we are currently in washington to visit representatives of the congress, representatives of leading analytical

centers, as well as our embassy, ​​so a lot of advocacy visits are planned, and their main topic is actually two tracks , the first is children, because the protection of children's rights is an absolutely integral part of ukraine's victory in this confrontation in this armed conflict, and the second track is crimea , because on it's a pity in new york unfortunately gogol is not so obvious to everyone that there will simply be no victory for ukraine without the deoccupation of crimea without the restoration of ukraine's sovereignty within the borders of 1991 let's start then with the children i will certainly start with a painful topic when we talk about the protection of children's rights in ukraine , in particular, we most often mean the deportation of our ukrainian children , we understand what the russian federation is doing, on the other hand, evacuation is necessarily the evacuation of children from the war zone. i would like to remind

you that there is still no such executive mechanism if we were to do this, we supposedly have a cabinet resolution for some territorial communities in the east of our country that children must be forcibly evacuated with one of the representatives , but when the point comes down to those who evacuates, in particular with the police, they say, our hands are still tied because we are a legal state , a democratic state, and we respect the human right to determine one's own destiny . where you are , in fact, the situation is related to forced evacuation, and here we do not understand coercion in any negative sense. we must understand that a person's right to a family is

not a child's stay in a family absolute and when it does not correspond to the best interests of the child, the child can be separated temporarily, this is in order to save his life, and in this particular case, we can say that we comply with the convention on the protection of the rights of the child , that's why in our ukrainian legislation it meets international standards, but how do you correctly pointed out that there are problems with the practice of application because our law enforcement agencies and local authorities were not ready for the fact that there will be parents who will really speak or who will to hide children who will say that the main problem is that today there are interruptions with the internet and the child cannot attend school, this was before the end of the school year, that is, people are in such a vulnerable position , including a psychological one, that they simply do not understand how much high risks and that it no

longer meets any standards and interests of their own child in fact . to the parents that they are being taken to nowhere, to some incomprehensible place, and they will be taken care of, the authorities constantly emphasize this, but the people, i repeat, they are vulnerable , they can no longer believe, they could not , recorded cases when people were evacuated, these were both state initiatives and non-governmental initiatives and after that, they simply took it and went back, because in this case , to fight it, these people need to constantly explain that if ukraine does not evacuate them , it will greatly affect the russian federation, and in this case, we will not be talking about yakov evacuation and about forced deportation with the possible separation of children from their parents, at the same time, the russian federation will not always consider such children without

parental care, will appoint them a temporary guardian who will turn into a permanent one, so please kateryna, taking into account everything you say , can it be assumed that sometimes the ukrainian state allows crimes against children i no , i do not want to compromise our ukrainian state in any way now, but i have to ask because this is a very painful question, see while our executive bodies and the legislative branch are actually quite restrained in their decisions, people wait until a certain territory becomes occupied and then they are really deported , separated from their children, and so on. and so on, can the inaction of the ukrainian state be considered the problem that allows the crime of the russian federation and you know, i would not say here that there is any problem

of the self-ukrainian government of the ukrainian state as such, because in fact it applied for the existence of a proper legal system proper legal protection and for there to be proper implementation of this legal system of data from acts on the ground. another issue is simply that these acts are performed by people, people who have their own feelings, who see what other people do not want, what other people are hiding, other people arrange certain dramas there and so on and so simply at the level of an individual person it can be difficult that's why, unfortunately, i can't say here that ukraine acts or inaction and not unfortunately, but fortunately, and you do not allow any international crimes, international crimes are rampant in russia when the federation deports these children and deports their family members, when they are separated and not repatriated, ukraine is trying to do and make the best efforts to

avoid this, according to the information of president zelensky, ukraine has managed to return 371 children to ukraine as of today, thanks to various methods. however, almost 20,000 children still remain in the hands of the enemy. how are you, and in particular the international community , going to return these children to ukraine? in fact, the mechanisms that exist now are functioning quite successfully since the end of 2022. year until 2023, before the start of these non-governmental initiatives, they are facing enormous difficulties. the russian federation has fully identified and understood the scheme of return , and therefore at the moment, at each stage , additional obstacles are being created for, i always emphasize that ukraine cannot mimic, cannot repeat the activities of non-governmental organizations , even if these activities are very effective ukraine as a state has its own tools and must make both diplomatic and political

legal efforts to use them , we are currently advocating the adoption of a resolution at of the un general assembly, and although it sounds somehow possible, someone may be skeptical, but such a resolution will help to create enormous diplomatic and legal pressure, in fact , ukraine will win in any case , because the russian federation, oh god, return all the children at once, and this price is a source of evidence base in order to bring the guilty persons to justice or she will simply commit another war crime. this is exactly the return of ukrainian children later, but the old people will be treated as sores, as you know we are covered with international crimes and will spend longer in prisons, but look, now it is already the 16th month of a full-scale invasion, 16 months these children are in the hands of the enemy. what do you think, after such a filtering of propaganda such as

this, in general, then the children will relate to ukraine and to it is actually difficult to answer unequivocally here because it is necessary to conduct appropriate research and consult with psychologists and sociologists, however, historical experience shows that unfortunately, children are very fast even adults adapt and assimilate, therefore rehabilitation and reintegration programs are needed, taking into account international experience, at the same time, it is necessary to look at existing practice, regulatory and legal international practice, and unfortunately in 24 months , that is, in two years, there will be a question, because in general, it corresponds to their best interests in case of repatriation to ukraine, of course, we will insist. but in order to insist , it is necessary to clearly demonstrate that for this an assessment of the best interests of the child must be carried out, and long-term solutions are needed er, in order to actually return our children. we hope that they will be approved on the grounds of the general assembly of the united nations, this is very

important. kateryna , we have literally one and a half minutes. in general, this is a kind of victory. to be honest, what do you mean, look, we have so-called peace initiatives, peace plans - these are six african countries, at least this is also egypt, the republic of south africa, this is also countries such as mexico, brazil, they they just frankly ask and are you ready to cede certain territories there, referring to the crimean peninsula in order to get peace, according to them, it will be peace but we are fighting them effectively, we demonstrate the charter of the united nations organization, we explain that the russian federation has consistently recognized the crimean peninsula for a decade peninsula to ukraine as well as to other territories and to give these territories now is a disregard for international law - it is an undermining

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