[000:00:00;00] shown from the mouth of putin's ex-advisor well, here's the story that the people's deputy of ukraine, which is waging war with russia, voiced the words that putin's extradit said. it's very strange, a strange coincidence of circumstances, but let's understand that we are all ukrainians. thank you for being with us. there will be a verdict program on the air, and there is serhiy rudenko, i say goodbye to you. see you tomorrow . until 19:00. take care and be with us. good evening. we are from ukraine. glory to ukraine. this is a verdict program. my name is serhiy rudenko . good day and good health to all. russia is calling from all rumors about the counteroffensive against the armed forces of ukraine are denied

by the general staff of the armed forces of the russian federation. vladimir putin is already shelling russia and is looking for mediators in order to present the ukrainian side with peace agreements. aggression against other states that did not even take care of the defense of its own borders, a country that was used to attacking its neighbors with impunity is now suffering from a raid by the russian volunteer army and legion the freedom of russia, the russian-ukrainian border is porous in places, the law enforcement agencies are in shock, and in the meantime, as i already said, new drafts of peace agreements are being written in the world, the minister of defense of indonesia offered ukraine a new peace plan, which consists of several points, in particular , the point on holding a referendum on the occupied territories the lands of the russian federation

to the ukrainian lands in order to divide ukraine into two parts according to the korean scenario. well, today the envoy of the pope also arrived in kyiv, who also came from new peace initiatives, in one way or another, these peace initiatives, all of which were in the course of the last few months, they correspond with moscow's desire to record the so-called territorial reality, that is, to recognize the occupied regions of ukraine as russian. but through the territorial concessions of ukraine , meanwhile, the russian occupiers continue to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine. russia

has already lost 210,000,350 people in the last day the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 410 orks with the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 3848 tanks 7423 armored combat vehicles 3567 artillery systems 584 rocket salvo systems 349 air defense means 313 airplanes 298 helicopters 6312 units of automotive equipment 18 ships boats 1136 winged ships missiles - 3 189 drones 4 are four units of special equipment, so putin is bombing russia , the armed forces of ukraine is going to counteroffensive and peace for ukraine on moscow's terms, we will talk about this and other things in the next hour, i want

to introduce our guest - a politician, diplomat, ambassador extraordinary plenipotentiary of ukraine in the republic of belarus in 2010-2011, the envoy of ukraine in the tripartite contact group in minsk, roman immortal, mr. roman , good day, good health to you, glad you are with us good day, i am also happy to talk with you were already talking about the counter-offensive of the armed forces of ukraine and said that the ukrainian army had launched a counter-offensive on five areas of the front in southern donetsk, in particular, in the morning on the fourth of june, at the same time, the russians say that

the armed forces of ukraine took out the 23rd and 31st mechanized brigades from the territorial strategic reserves into pain. hanna malyar confirmed that in some directions the ukrainian forces are moving to offensive actions, they are having success in the bakhmut direction, so that according to you it is happening, that is, the russians, in anticipation of a counteroffensive, are already starting to conduct ipso against the ukrainians and against the armed forces, after all, be careful for now, in your comments so as not to create too much noise, especially in the western press , the first thing to pay attention to is that a counter-offensive operation by its nature can be both defensive offensive and combined, and here we must give credit to the ukrainian e-e and the general staff and the troops to the political leadership, where is the information support of this issue, and

where there is such a well-thought-out method in the information, and the work is actually parallel to the real actions on the front line , well, sometimes it just pushes the enemy to the extreme extreme fever and if we analyze the information space since the autumn of last year, then this word counteroffensive has become both an information sphere and a psychological circle , an information-psychological and real circle . the fact is that in matters of e-e information communications, especially such a phenomenon as war , sometimes steps they a-a on both sides compensate for the presence or absence of certain actions on the front line from one side or the other at this moment a-a let's say

a raid a-a of the russian volunteer corps and of the freedom of russia unit. he caused so much horror to the creams that they are forced to pass it off as offensive actions, although it is just a clear raid, which quite successfully follows the bodies, reveals exactly the thing that you have already very clearly clarified regarding the border and everyone knows very well that in such regimes , which are totalitarian, which are aggressive in nature, which are aimed at foreign territories, they never seriously worry about defensive lines, well , everyone knows the historical parallels. there we are in nazi germany and in stalinist e

in the soviet union, that is, it was always not considered because there, in fact, it is considered that if it is probable and possible, even if nowhere and out of fear, then it would find natural solutions at the expense of the capture of foreign territories, hence this is the imposition of a long-term preparation process and er fragmentary action in counter-offensive actions in parallel with the raid of the rdk and the freedom of russia, they led to the fact that the information space of russia exploded that ukraine had started an offensive. the goal of the tactical regrouping of forces is to achieve an operational-tactical initiative, well, it is clear that enough is known about them, although to talk about the fact that in general, the details can somehow be a-a jump out into the information space, well, this is

simply unacceptable, so here a-a by the way it should be noted that the general staff of the troops act absolutely competently and as much as is necessary , so much information is dosed, they fill the information space in order not to harm the operations carried out, it is necessary to understand that all this exists in parallel and together with global continental, regional, international events, which you also described, these overlaps are endless, and the almost complete isolation of the filler of the moscow kremlin gives rise to additional fears from here, sometimes these bursts of information about certain steps, accusations of certain actions, which are far from the truth, even if we talk about what in certain areas there is no movement, this was also wrong because in the south and in the west, well, in fact, on all

five well, almost 800 km of the front line , there is some fighting and some realignment of forces is another matter. what is it well let's say so, i'm not an expert, although i can't do it, i have to give it to the military staff, etc., to the rdk, to the legion of freedom of russia , according to the dibstate, these forces have already advanced in the belgorod region by 10 m², that is, all together, it is already 10 m², and literally here i was an hour ago i looked at the telegram channel of the russian volunteer corps, they are in novaya and volzhanka, and there are 5,000 residents in novaya and volzhanka . of course, some of these people fled, some of them remained there, and they say, listen. well, that is, in themselves the russians came to their territory with weapons from the territory of the ukrainian state, they say listen, no one is protecting

, no one is doing anything at all, moreover, they captured several russian prisoners and offered prigozhin to exchange the commander of the 72nd brigade of the armed forces of the russian federation, although prigozhin first said about the fact that they took this commander of the 72nd brigade, but did not say that the armed forces of the russian federation, that is , prigozhin, arrested this commander of the 72nd brigade of the armed forces of the russian federation a now other russians who are part of the russian volunteer corps and the freedom of russia offer them to exchange their prisoners for that prisoner, let's listen to caesar , a fighter of the freedom of russia legion, because it is very interesting from the point of view of understanding those processes that are taking place around ukraine, which will undoubtedly affect the feed - counteroffensive well, and for the finalization of the russian-ukrainian war, i am caesar, a representative of the legion of freedom of russia

, as we learned from the soldiers of the central military commission, wagner was to capture the commander of the 72nd brigade of the ussr , lieutenant colonel roman, the culprit. how are you already? you know, we have dozens of servicemen of the russian army and border guards in captivity, we offered to hand them over without any additional conditions simply as a gesture of goodwill, but governor vyacheslav glattov, a knight of the order of terror , did not attend the announced meeting, and in the meantime , unmotivated shelling of the russian army's territory continues shebekin and novaya and volzhanka, we heard about you yevgeny viktorovych that you said that even the enemy must be treated with respect and we believe that you

are the same person with whom we can talk and agree, we offer you to exchange lieutenant colonel roman accused of soldiers of the russian army and border guards who are in captivity with us, we offer an exchange without any additional conditions so that it would be a guarantee that the russians will not shed russians, at the same time, the parishioner himself says that this in fact, the lieutenant colonel of the 72nd brigade is not in captivity and he will not trade russians for russians, but what we see in this example is that some russians with russian passports, soldiers fighting against the putin regime, enter the territory of the russian federation and agree with the commander of the private military campaign wagner about the exchange of some prisoners, that is, the entire matrix that existed until now in russia is simply collapsing to the extent that it will affect the internal situation in russia, well, it does not even mean the people, but the system

of power on which it is in which mountain is putin, the first thing that will affect the international community and the understanding of what is actually happening in russia, the situation in russia is like a conflict between the beauty of the military leadership and eh let's say all this around the figure, well, actually, this is a characteristic, a characteristic thing is that you are talking about totalitarian regimes, and this is all-in-all, a battle for closeness to the body of the first person , well, they pushed him away, they managed to push him away, and all these companies will push prigozhin away, moreover , they will tie him into such processes that the chvk is actually now in a minimally formed number thanks to the fighting

in the territory of ukraine, and it is obvious that for today and for prigozhin, participation , first of all, in the information war for access to putin is the number one task, from here you can explain his media activity, but from the point of view of his influence on the situation, in principle, the influence on the situation on the front line, on the actions of the general staff of the armed forces of the russian federation, well, this is less than minimal and this is all shaking the air and it is already obvious, and pay attention to how last week the last a week ago, statements began to be made from chechnya that kadyrov was the earthly khan there and so on, that is, it is obvious that he then made a choice, and ah, this choice cannot be of a stable nature, it is most likely temporary, this is an engraving in approximations

all-in-all handouts from one to another and so on, so he gave a handout of what he took and so on. and this commotion that is happening around putin has such a theatrical stage character, he ties up the dogs , disperses them in corners and makes them silent, he is talking about what it will somehow be reflected seriously on the front line in the battles. i would not become. but as for the understanding itself for the world, for the world, from repetition , for the diplomats, for the political corps, for the military corps, both ukrainian and european, it is increasingly obvious it becomes more obvious that the management system of the russian army is in the hands of the schizophrenic fiora, who brings the situation to the point that he arranges these dog fights between

his entourage, over which he dominates , these dogs are extremely necessary, because even now it is necessary to understand that the rdk and the freedom of russia are taking absolute steps why because these are the forces of the alyarash and they start trolling this situation and it all turns into a very wonderful information psychological operation that destroys the system of the information field of russia and even to this is joined by raids that demonstrate in reality that behind all these multi-star generals, marshals and so on there is absolutely nothing from the point of view of their influence on the situation, and everything is decided by one person yesterday, putin, therefore, in this situation, i would not adopt this factor from the point of view impact on the war itself, but from the point of view of understanding what is happening a--

the führer's kremlin, these are very important steps, meanwhile, russian propagandists are literally howling about the situation in the belgorod region, margarita simonenko says that in order to stop the shelling of belgorod region, kharkiv should be annexed to russia. so what if they want if they are not ready for peace in exchange for our people living in their homes in our territories because these are our people well then we need to go to poland and let then the poles are shelling our lviv and this is how

they already had time for nato's war with russia what no one will go to because the war of the alliance with russia will last approximately 15 minutes after that dinosaurs will be fighting after millions of years when a word comes to earth i understand what kind of logic and the simians of official russian propaganda, in order not to fire on the belgorod region, you need to reach the borders of poland, then there will be no conflict and there will be no third world war , because it is absolutely impossible . it does not demonstrate that they are not in a position to administer even their regions closest to the ukrainian territory , not to mention the distant ones, that the weakness of the regions of russia will actually lead to the collapse of the russian federation, this weakness that is demonstrated in the belgorod region, because, as i said at the beginning, they were always preparing always attacked and never thought that they would have

to defend themselves, the situation that is now demonstrated by the volunteer corps and the unit shows the freedom of russia very clearly. and what is the organism of a totalitarian the state, what is the body of the state that hangs on to putin, that is, in fact, it is powerless to resist, not that there are serious challenges, we are powerless to resist challenges of an elementary order. and in fact, the entire previous history and relations of ukraine with russia and this war only confirms that the fure regime is in their problems, even elementary problems, they always look for an external culprit and therefore point the finger at the united states to blame, ukraine is to blame

for the fact that the problems are in russia and by definition this regime is not able to protect citizens, it is not capable, in principle, of solving these social and economic problems of citizens . but what about aggression ? they are sick with this. they live with such things, hence this bitterness towards ukrainians , towards americans, towards poles, these conversations about the life of dinosaurs, but for educated and educated people, the impression is that these people who say such things need to see a psychiatrist, and not speak on television, but it must be understood that the führer regime itself uses such simenians and

so on as far as the material is concerned, they are not people, they are just talking maggots who open a role and say whatever they want, and they do it in such a way that they bring the situation to extreme insanity, and what they call people it just eats it all it swallows it all why because there is nothing else left from here we are dealing today with a sick führer and forei society and it is necessary to understand that this is not just an enemy it is a system that is inhabited by millions a population that is initially sick from all sides, and ah, this disease is attacking us , it is attacking all 30 years of ukraine's independence , ukraine, ukrainians. and from this we must understand that the issues we are facing now do not have

a linear relationship, because you understand, mr. serhiy , when we analyze these things we think like people who live in a democratic environment and we try to somehow explain to understand it is simple, it is a mass described in fantasy novels that is controlled by one person by his madness, from here it is necessary to understand what is rational to look for in the behavior of prigogine or in the behavior of putin or in the behavior of the actual population of the russian federation from the point of view of the actual events , the russian volunteer corps that the freedom of russia entered the settlement and entered and who needs this population, it is represented by itself from here to talk about that that well, to pay attention to similar statements of people like simonian, well, it's just a waste of time

, and it's another matter. that today the world is faced with a choice. and in the end, what to do with all this son with such a phenomenon as russia, which of the middle does not give absolutely any impetus to the continuation of normal life, well, to briefly summarize how the russian authorities feel about what is happening in nova tovalzhanka and in general in the belgorod region, this was formulated 20 years ago by putin when he was asked a what's wrong with kursk? well, she drowned, as he said then, when a lot of sailors died . andriy stesev, the senior operative group of belhorod, also drowned in novaya and volzhanka. as reported by the main intelligence directorate of the ministry of defense according to operative information on the night of the 4th to the 5th of june in the settlement of navatovolzhanka guards colonel andrii

vasilievich stesev was killed , by the way , he was once the commander of the 104th airborne assault regiment of the 104th airborne assault regiment of the airborne forces of the russian federation. freedom of russia will be used in the future by other similar units that fight in the foreign legion in ukraine, does this mean the belarusians, is it possible that such a situation will be repeated in the belarusian cities or villages bordering ukraine, and we know that starting from february 24, 2022, belarus acts as the aggressor in this war, so serhiy, you and i have never once talked about the fact that units such as the kalinovsky regiment and all of his are included, which consist mainly of belarusians who are fighting on

the territory of ukraine, and they should actually take similar and similar other steps that are related to similar activities. it is another matter that it is obvious that the general staff and the political leaders. ah, such things. they are very important. ah, in such a war, wars are multifactorial wars , where they are combined. well, sometimes things that in other conditions are very difficult to put together are difficult to put together, and it is obvious that ah, not only the russian democratic republic and the freedom of russia count, including on the rise of the population in russia if it is capable of something and there is still some common sense left, and in this regard we must also hope for the support of belarusians by the way, the topic of belarusians is

very important, because actually paul kalinovsky and the forces that are in belarus that support independence, sovereignty republic of belarus and the democratic course of development in them is to save the image and save the statehood of belarus and so on. and in this case , it is important here that all absolutely steps and steps to create a partisan movement and actions of units of the kalinovsky regiment on the territory of belarus and other units in that including the international component, which must participate in this because europe, especially , has sinned against belarus, because for 30 years , belarus has been bullied by a dictator who, to date, has actually captured

the government with a group of his cliques and imposes certain political will at the expense of the force factor of the national guard troops and so on, the politics, the foreign policy of belarus, and he involved him, he bears the responsibility of lukashenko personally for what is happening , for the fact that belarus today has the status of a participant in the war with ukraine for the fact that it is the aggressor and by the satellite of the führer's kremlin, it is obvious from here that it is necessary to understand that since the russian federation and the freedom of russia, in particular, rest on the responsibility for the future of russia, so also on the units of the kalinovsky regiment, exactly so. france can save the honor of pol-kalinovsky, and belarus and belarus itself , and so can the republic of russia. freedom of russia can show the way of future development and the transformation

of the russian federation into a federation or confederation. well, it depends on the decisions that will be made there, but it is very important that it understood and in kyiv this was understood and in the region, we between the seas and this was understood in europe, this is a very serious argument and we gave it help, because mr. serhiy must understand that france, which today is a permanent member of the un security council and in which in under what conditions did she end up at 19, in what year, in what status, but thanks to her efforts, thanks to the joint work of the prime minister of the church, she emerged and became a full-fledged member and ally in the fight against nazism, and here, too, from my point of view it is distributed that the active position of the kalinovsky regiment and the units that concern the formation of former russian military officers, they can act in this way, they

need to provide the necessary assistance , including the international community for me. to strangely, there was a statement about where the russian troops get their weapons, you have to ask them. well, there are no problems from the point of view of international law, they are a party that is fighting, they can ask for help somewhere because they are fighting evil against racism, but people hate vysnytskyi regime , and the units of the kalinovsky regiment. and i am not talking about liberality. in this regard, the ukrainian legislation directly allows this , but we are talking about the liberation movement and the liberation movement in both cases well, by the way, about how lukashenko is talking now and how he regrets that, as he says, we were not able to deal with ukraine in 2014-2015, that is,