[000:00:00;00] such world leaders who donate to the amazon for the restoration of siberia would somehow have their say there, among them there are many actors, famous politicians, showmen, because from here, look at what the genghis khan of our time is doing . i am ready to say good evening to him. we are from ukraine. glory to ukraine is a program . my name is serhiy rudenko. good day and good health to all. the russian occupiers blew up the kakhovsky hydroelectric plant at night, the russians blew up the hall's car, unfortunately it cannot be restored, the water quickly leaves the reservoir and floods the villages and

towns along the dnipro river, it is about 80 settlements, the russians, who control the dam since the first day of the great war, planted explosives in it as early as the fall of 22nd, they blame the ukrainian side although no one has any doubt who exactly blew up the hydroelectric plant against this background , the united nations announced the day of the russian language because pushkin was born today and the un decided to celebrate the day of the language of our neighbor and instead of reacting to the next terrorist act of moscow, they celebrated the day of speaking russian again, the lack of a strong reaction of the world to the explosion of the khust hpp will obviously lead to an even greater environmental disaster on the planet, because

it is obvious that the russians will not limit themselves to the kakhov hpp and there will obviously be new acts of terrorism from aggressor countries and only a collective attack on the face of the russian invaders can stop them until the world understands that not only ukraine is under threat, but the whole planet meanwhile, russia continues to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine, russia has already lost 211,150 people in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 800 orks with the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost 3,860 tanks, 7,543 armored combat vehicles, 3.63 artillery pieces in ukraine systems 590

rocket launcher systems 351 means of anti-air defense 313 airplanes 299 helicopters 6332 two units of automotive equipment 18 ships boats 1136 cruise missiles - 3212 drones 489 units of special technicians so the russians destroyed the kakhov hpp, the threat of flooding 80 settlements in the kherson region and is moscow preparing to flee, we will talk about another stage in the next hour, i want to introduce today's first guest - this is political technologist oleksiy holobutsky pleksiu good evening and good health to you thank you you are on our air good evening

, the biggest man-made ecological disaster of this millennium . at the security summit in bucharest and zelensky noted that it was impossible to blow up the dam from the outside, including shelling, and the russians had been preparing for more than a year to blow up this object and create an ecological disaster. we will ensure the greatest significant contribution to the security of our region with you, our europe and the entire world. was the reaction today to what happened to the kakhov hpp from

european structures and from the world sufficient? it was not for nothing that i mentioned the un, which today celebrates the day of the russian language. of course, it seems to us that there is not enough reaction, but we must understand that the un is such a bureaucratic structure that reacts very slowly and there will be a reaction. i understand that there will be a meeting of the security council today. on this occasion, we will hear general words again, probably that it is bad that this is happening and that it is not necessary to continue to act like this, and regarding the european countries well, in principle, what i heard well, of course, that everyone is all excited, right? otherwise, but they must understand that these are the consequences of this disaster, they will continue in time, so to speak, and it will not overflow, so to speak, or be blown up somewhere

in the territory of europe or the united states, this is happening in ukraine, hundreds of thousands die every day people commit many crimes in russia. is blowing up a hydroelectric power station the biggest crime? well, these are questions like that. yes, it is a crime . ukraine will suffer for ten years, maybe even longer, because we don't know what will happen there when all this dries up, what was there at the bottom of the industrial district, it is clear that, well , there are a lot of issues that are probably still being studied in the west in europe. but we have what we have. well

in general, i will say, unfortunately, it has been going on for almost one and a half years, and here, well, i don’t know what . well, apparently, an explosion or an accident at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant has already ruled out any such more serious reaction or something similar. and please tell me the absence of any such the rapid and harsh reaction of the west, which we hope for. well, of course they have their own problems there, but the ecology of which we are now talking about the destruction of the kakhova hpp well , one way or another, it will affect our neighbors bulgaria, obviously, and other european countries that are in the black sea basin in one way or another, the lack of this operational reaction is not evidence that russia will see that no one is reacting, we bombed uh or blew up the kakhovka hpp

, then we will go to another hpp, then we will get to the zaporizhzhya npp, that is, the absence of this reaction will not give rise to other unpunished crimes and allow russia to commit even worse crimes that can lead to another catastrophe, and it is simply difficult for me to imagine what means of reaction, that is, what the measure can offer in a collective measure that there is not everything, so to speak, not everyone agrees , not everyone sticks to the same line, there is a lot of reason, today he said that he is going to call putin in the near future, there are different views, absolutely , the maximum sanctions that could be introduced , which are not enough, of course, but which are the measures

considers it sufficient in order not to harm their own economies, so they introduced them, do they expect any results, of course, later on, what other sanctions can be introduced, well , that is, the only thing left is to ban the sale of raw materials, oil, and gas in general , so to speak, but again this is this, well, it will raise the price of these products all over the world, and so, otherwise, we hit the economies of developed countries again, that is, we also need to understand that there is such an instant reaction, all the more so, again, well, the process is still ongoing. we are still we don't know yet, we see terrible footage of flooded cities, villages, uh, i don't know the casualties yet, but it's clear that there are victims and all that

will happen. well, i hope that some reaction will take place in the next few days, it would be is not only for the ecology of ukraine. in general, this applies to the whole world , there is not even a global point of view . yes, what can raise these clouds with unknown things. when it dries up , everything can rise and go to bulgaria and romania. it is also possible for agriculture, which is based on on this water so to speak well, this does not only apply to the left bank, this applies to the right bank even less , so to speak, well, that is, we ukraine is a feeder, one way or another , one of the feeders of the world, including for nothing , so to speak. he is so worried that there is a grain business here. and because this is grain. well, the world needs it, the world needs it, and not only grain, and all this

, of course, will hit the food security of the world very strongly in one way or another. in kherson oblast today, the leaders of five african countries are going to putin. well, to zelensky with peace initiatives , that is, the south of africa. yes , the north is also interested in the transportation of ukrainian grain buyers, and not only africa. in this way , russia is destroying the kakhovsky hydroelectric power plant. which was built in the fifties of the last century, well, in fact, it destroys the entire system of the agro-industrial complex that existed until now in the kherson region and in the zaporizhia region, well, african countries they are of course they are worried about this. well, this is really a very

serious problem for africa, including a-a, how much their efforts will really be there, we can see these free lavrov african countries in principle. he gives fertilizer, so to speak, for free, well, that is all . more so, so to speak, this is a pr conversation that african countries allegedly support russia in opposing the west, so to speak, from the fact that only peace proposals will come , since proposals to somehow solve this situation, they are not fighting with ours, well, at least now they are not fighting with our interests to protect their country , it is necessary

, it is necessary, more. it is not clear. that is, maybe there is such a thing that really. they are so afraid of a counteroffensive that in such a certain case it is possible , considering that they very often make huge mistakes there. maybe they did not expect that the whole dam would go, so to speak, and the whole dam would be destroyed. so it is possible to flood those islands, and give the possibilities of ukraine's counteroffensive, i.e. to shorten the front line, it is possible that this is putin's game for a long time, that is, he is exhausting ukraine , of course, this is all how we did not brag there and did not say that we can withstand it, but it all hits the economy, the mood, well, i don't know well, throughout the whole play and for now he has opportunities. he uses shelling every

day . now blow up the hydroelectric power station. he is waiting for a moment when i don't know when we are really ready. when i wait, when will the west's patience run out from the point of view there? well, of course, that's all , and god forbid, food problems and other humanitarian problems. it can't be solved one way or another, only ukraine alone will need help, help from the west, it's all money, maybe it doesn't count. well, we can see how the dynamics of the mood of the citizens are changing , the latest studies of eastern europe are very strange , but the bulgarians in slovakia, well, in general, their support is dropping very much, although, for example , they surprised the most with the type of

in eastern ukraine, well, in eastern europe, ukrainian refugees are more positive towards ukraine, that is, well, there are a lot of questions and, uh , putin is just dragging his feet, he is not solving any problem strategically . this is my version , so to speak, he is delaying. of course, there will be such disasters of this level. already mentioned about the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. it is located on the shore of the kakhov reservoir and has been under the control of the russians for the last 15 months , well, that is, at the beginning of the great russian war in ukraine . the zaporizhia npp is cooled with water from

the reservoir. water in the kakhov reservoir will fall, it may endanger nuclear safety or a nuclear accident may occur. russia has long been using nuclear blackmail at the zaporizhzhya npp in order to make ukraine inclined to accept yes the so-called new territorial reality, as they say, that all the occupied lands of russia, er, ukraine should recognize or, well, in what way should it be legitimized, or could the story of the kakhov hpp push the russians to take active actions in other directions and to strike other infrastructure, including

with the infrastructure of the nuclear power plant in zaporizhzhia or energodar well, look at the situation, we remember that this conversation about the kakhovsky hpp has been going on since last year, we expected it. that is, it is not wrong that this situation should arise right out of the blue it it was expected that something could happen to this, so now we will be expected to see what will happen from the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. of course, this is a completely different level of security . was it aimed at speeding up? i'm not talking about the zaporizhzhia station, to tear down these sedimentation tanks or water tanks that cool the reaction, well, that would be. well, it's just not, probably, even for the russians, we won't allow it. yes, because it's clear to everyone.

will increase the pressure on russia and even then china and india will probably unite and another country . but if you put yourself in such a situation that it is possible for this to happen, yes, it is also possible that putin is calculating the situation with no way out for him, but if you take some historical parallels, well, this well, it was, so to speak, yes, hitler, already arriving at the point, almost a few days before his suicide, demanded the flooding of the berlin subway together, so to speak, with whoever is there to stop the advance of the allies troops, so i say once again that everyone can in this situation hope for an exceptionally rational assessment of the situation on the part of putin . we cannot, because we do not understand absolutely what kind

of world he lives in now, so he tells everyone so to speak, well listen if you listen to today's what is his and if this but putin himself believes all this. well, when they show, oh, my god, the combine, oh, by the way , the film of last year and tell that it was hit on the leopard by the second one, and as if he were calling some simply unworldly numbers about the death of our soldiers beating the technique of everything well, then it is really difficult to expect rationality, it is simply difficult to expect it, although it seems to me that, after all, it also happened with the kakhovka hpp, this suggests that the mechanism of such actions that remain within the framework of a military operation is less and less understood by putin

that this is a matter of time. well, maybe it really drags until autumn and winter. and in order to keep the maximum number of ukrainian territories , there is already an expectation that they will again beat their aunts in terms of energy systems, i will try again to arrange some kind of blackout for us, and all this against the background of what will happen as a result of this explosion , and so on. in europe and all over the world, by the way, now we see this fragment on the screen when the russians hit the harvesters and said that they were hitting the leopards, well, that is, they destroy the harvesters and report that they are destroying the leopards. we

have a small synchronicity of putin about what he said about the zaporizhzhia npp, how does he respond to what may happen there, let's see and hear putin, for example, with well, how can such people reserve work at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant and use some dirty devices, it is obvious that putin cannot say everything about the zaporizhzhia npp, but one can assume in the event of an attack on a nuclear plant, russia's response may be the very weapon that mr. oleksin is most afraid of, perhaps this weapon that he constantly pulls out and tries to blackmail the whole world putin is possible and is afraid of the organization of the united nations and the european structures that allow them to react calmly to what is happening in ukraine. well, how calm

is it to accept the situation, as putin says , the territorial reality, oh, he threatens with this weapon during the entire pharmacy he, uh, he applied it even before the sipia, and the application was nevertheless warned, it is meant that china and other countries are what we are talking about now about neutral countries, yes, well, exactly, they will not approve of this at all. and there are certain signals. what do the russians understand about the west's response, because we should to understand what is here, so to speak, if you allow nuclear weapons to drink there, i don’t know if there are any, well, i am here, it is difficult to understand what she is running for but it is clear that the only thing they have , so to speak, which they did not use, is that it is a nuclear

weapon, then first of all if you are tactically, i am with us, in principle, it is a weapon, in addition to the terrible consequences of a specific territory, but it does not fundamentally change anything, but transfers the conflict to a completely different area, and already expect that the west will not respond, well, the situation will simply be so very serious. yes, what if you do not answer this, tomorrow well really with help there tactical or strategic, this weapon can solve any question there, it will solve any question, so it will probably be some kind of answer, we don't know how to do it, the situation is so unique that even examples in history are difficult to find, so to speak, but it's not difficult, it's impossible to find, that's why i i think for the time being all these words that follow attached weapons - it seems to me, first of all, reassurance for my own on the stage, well, not us already, well , how long was there to beat on the columns they promised

to respond to the appearance with western equipment tanks have been promised for a long time about the russian territory, we have already heard it all. the answer has already been passed and the answer is to blow it up . well, the answer is to blow up kakhovsky. thank you, mr. oleksiy. it was oleksiy holobutsky , a political technologist. we continue our program in our contact roman kostenko , a people's deputy of ukraine, a colonel of the security service of ukraine, he is currently in the kherson oblast , roman good evening and thank you for joining our program good evening mr. colonel the situation in the region after the explosion of the kakhova hydroelectric power station, the situation and what we can see now is only rising water, the water is coming, the water is destroying almost everything in its path. well, in the channel and more widely, we see what is happening on the right bank

, we see that there are separate houses floating on the dnieper right now people, cars, trees uprooted along with the roots, if it is towards the black sea, towards the islands that are there, it is the fact that the water is constantly rising in kherson and on the right bank, but we understand that this is because the right bank is by tens meters higher than the left one. and we see that the main impact will be on the left bank, on the territory occupied by the russians, and this kakhovka will be the first to be flooded. you have already seen some footage of the fact that it was flooded from the very beginning, but right now on your screens there is the left bank, this is olezhki, the piers there, all the essays are beginning to spill there and begin to flood, so let's say the situation is now, while it has just begun, and there

are promises there, experts say that the spill will still be there until the day after tomorrow, and what is happening now in your relatives, your relatives' homes in magical dad nothing is happening, it is higher it is located on the right bank, it is tens of kilometers from the dnieper, which is just higher, that's why this man-made disaster , just like a flood , does not threaten my family as a whole. but of course, it is pink for you, my the region in which i will say i was born and what did the russians achieve by blowing up the kakhovka hpp, that is, what was the need for russia, that is, they were afraid of a counteroffensive, they were afraid of the transition of our e-e troops to the left shore, have they already decided that they will definitely not be in the kherson region

, and accordingly in the crimea, because the water from the kakhov reservoir went to the occupied territory, the temporarily occupied crimea looks like this , you know, you can look for logic from the military point of view, when there are no humanitarian issues they are generally based on the basis, you look for them and think from a military point of view, how do you remember that the russians, retreating there at one time in the 41st year, tried to drown the germans, at the same time, according to historical data, they drowned half a dozen germans and a hundred thousand of their own population, yes, and here they are. such was their logic to stop the germans from advancing during world war ii . it is difficult to say. well, they came to the point that they blew up that they blew up the dam, of course, from a military point of view, understand that the dam was the only land

connection practically from kherson to zaporizhzhia , with which it was possible to cross over to the left bank of the dnieper without getting our feet wet, let's say they understood that. well, i think they were also repulsed by this. they also probably wanted the water barrier between the left and right banks of the dnieper, where we, in principle , inflicted serious losses on them on the left bank , maybe they wanted it to expand, they would be safer and the fact itself is a plus. as for the genetic catastrophe, i think they should definitely have calculated and understood that no military benefits can be compared to what can be obtained in the council of those existing catastrophes that threaten the whole world and, let's say, is such a step when russia can once again say about the red lines once again and er pushed them away. let's say that she pushed them over. it's even more correct to say that someone even

compares it with the explosion of an atomic bomb there, 5-10 thousand per 10 km, which is just without nuclear pollution. that's why it's very serious, let's say so a serious disaster , the consequences of which we will have for a very long time after the war and along the left bank all the way to zaporizhzhia, look, i, er, as a military man, i see the situation that is happening, and i don't think that i was not skazhem , er, among those five people when the head of the national security and defense council or the secretary of the national security council said who knows about the counter-offensive operation, but i know that well, the kherson direction was not the main

e-e direction, we have other directions, which are zaporizhzhia, there are eastern directions, belohorod region, we have enough directions where the main efforts will be concentrated and where, i do not know, the decision of the supreme commander will be made or the commander-in-chief to strike, that's why russia wasn't the main one there, uh, it just secured itself by the fact that they deprived the crimea of ​​water for a long time, flooded a large number of territories there, says that it is possible that they have changed their plans, of course, i don't believe it well , or shall we say, i don't believe it practically, they will turn around and leave, but this suggests that perhaps nadia will pay them gradually there if they come to such methods and they once again show that you remember kherson forever with us when we released him there billboards were hung, then a week later there were shellings and civilians were killed, and they are starting to destroy it en masse, and the territories that were captured on the left bank have now been flooded, many people have been flooded, whole cities have been flooded