[000:00:00;00] the co-founder of the organization has no ukrainian roots. and i came for the first time during the war and really fell in love with ukrainians. it is such a wonderful country and such wonderful people. as an american, i see my role in working with americans. in my opinion , it is very important for americans to understand what is happening in ukraine and to help ukrainians . get prostheses in colorado we are a very small organization, there are only three of us, but we are strongly supported. so we will help as long as we have such an opportunity, for today a small group of volunteers of the united volhynia from voleiberti organized a trip to colorado and free prosthetics for three wounded ukrainian veterans. they plan to bring another group of soldiers who need artificial limbs, and while they are helping ihor and roman

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of the information war with olga len, tuesday, thursday, friday at 5:10 p.m. on the espresso tv channel, vasyl zima's long broadcast my name is vasyl zima, two hours of air time, two hours of your time, we will talk about the most important thing for two hours to find out about the war , serhiy zgoretska joins our broadcast , military summaries of the day and what is the world like? what in the world will yury fizer tell for two hours to stay up to date with economic news oleksandr morshchyntsi he tells us about the economy during the war and about new sports yevhen pastukhov is ready to talk about sports for two hours in the company of his favorite presenters about culture during the war he is ready to talk about the war or other presenters who have become familiar to many , maybe the weather will give us some optimism ms. natalka didenko is ready to tell us, and we will also have a respectable studio hotel today. volodymyr hryshko, if everything goes well, the events of the day in two hours

, vasyl zima's big broadcast, a project for smart and caring people, in the evening, nayspresso. congratulations a little an unusual time, but a familiar tv channel and i, yuri fizar - this means that the world during the war is on the air, a program during which i and my guests discuss the most important things that happened in the world during the past day and what will happen last week i apologize and what will happen in the week that ahead and what do we have to prepare for, why is it unusual because as you can see on the clock 13:14 please get used to this time because we have some re-formatting on our tv channel and our program the world during the war will now be broadcast at approximately 13:13 will be there is a lot more interesting during this reformatting, so watch the espresso tv channel. well, before i introduce my guest , i want to remind everyone who watches us on

youtube that we are broadcast on two channels in general espresso and a channel in youtube that was created specifically for the program the world is at war , yes, on this channel we always ask you questions and offer you answers, today's question is: will ukraine receive security guarantees from nato, three options for answers: yes, no, your option, your option you can write in the comments and in the comments then it will also be possible to read it at the end. now i see that 84 people have already voted , but i will not announce their results yet so as not to set you up on how to vote. well, thank you to all 611 people who are watching us on a special channel, the world during the war on youtube. well, thank you to those 1254 who are watching on the general espressov channel. okay, well, now let's talk about this

past week, which was very rich in international events, so with my guest today, i will have a lot to talk about. especially since my charming colleague, the editor ulyana panasyuk, also spoke a lot of direct language, so let's discuss . well, my guest today is pavlo klinkin, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine 2014-2019 p- pavlo i congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes congratulations mr. yuriy well i hope that you and i will vote at the end of the conversation, but at the beginning, so that it would be more interesting, mr. pavla. i just didn't want to set us viewers up by saying who is voting, so what, mr. fuel, well, agree, i was so full last information week i have a lot of things i want to talk to you about, we have enough time, let's start in some such chronological order, maybe with the security

forum of the globs forum in the capital of slovakia , bratislava, many leaders of european governments and countries were present. well , presidents and heads of various european organizations were also present both security and various others well, they talked, obviously, mostly about security in europe, but is it possible to talk about security in europe now without mentioning ukraine and without mentioning help for that ukraine was also spoken a lot. let us first listen to the two direct speeches of french president emmanuel macron. let's listen. i think that all of us from the first day of this war were impressed by the ability of the ukrainians to resist and achieve such concrete results. russia achieved much less on the military front than we expected on from the beginning it is thanks to the dedication of the ukrainians and

their ability to be strategic, intelligent and well-organized. i know that they are very carefully preparing for the counteroffensive and can withstand the strain of this war for months i'm not sure if we will have a consensus for the meeting in vilnius on full membership let's be honest as you understand we need strong concrete and comprehensive security guarantees some doubts he voiced about whether we will be invited but good about the guarantees of security said well , the president of the european commission, ursula von der lam, said one more direct message, let's listen to the cease-fire , as a result of which the hostilities will freeze , the cease-fire will not lead to a lasting peace would be unstable and destabilizing in the region along the contact line in this case no one will invest or restore ukraine and war can break out at any moment nor a just peace should lead to

the withdrawal of russian troops and equipment from the territory of ukraine it is obvious that these security guarantees were mr. pavlo please tell me if it just seems to me or do you also think that at the vilnius nato summit in july of this year, there will obviously not be an invitation, but will there be some clearer wording about what we will do next to cooperate with nato, at least while we have an aggressive russian war on our territory, in fact , the discussions in bratislava are part of it. quite banal things, if there is no security, then how will we exist, we will exist europe

, how can we actually count on the security of investments and the security of life as such, but macron said several interesting things things for someone his performance was a complete surprise for me in the end he was quite expected uh first he stopped talking about europe as a separate reality and emphasized romantic solidarities what was expected of him he tried to play giant slalom there after visiting china is talking about strategic autonomy, now he said that the west is the west, in fact , translated from diplomatic to normal, and the west should be unified, and this is actually a lot if you hear it from macron, and

it would be more profitable for the chinese to have europe separately france separately states to talk to each a different strategy towards china for china it would be by luck but in reality it will not happen this is the first second what macron said eh and by the way you gave this in the award speech maybe we will discuss it later but it is very important he said that it is necessary to take a real look at what eurointegra means, and that this process cannot go on indefinitely, and that it should get. well, on the vudinalnik, this actually also means a lot from a country that has always seen and felt itself as such inhibiting factors for european integration well, the third guarantee of security guarantees is clear that during the war there is no consensus in nato regarding our acceptance

, this means immediate let the start of the war with russia nato will eventually understand that it is necessary to change the fundamental strategy of relations with russia, switch to deterrence and proceed to the strategic weakening of russia and the regime and russia as such. since we understand that there are good and bad things in russia, this is somehow in the past, but macron started talking about guaranteeing security, and i don't know how your vote will end. but nevertheless security guarantees will definitely be there, whether they will be sufficient and acceptable for us is another question, but the fact that they will not be in the previous ones, the fact that they will not be political

obligations, the fact that they will include at least the concept of ukraine, which will be armed , which will be associated with the event is actually a new meaning of high-quality both in terms of security and in terms of defense cooperation, it is already obvious that any cooperation, whatever it may be , cannot replace nato because this musketeer principle is one all for one this is the only thing that keeps any community that is based on common values ​​and now there is no alternative to nato. if you want, i am sure that there will be no alternative to nato, not in a year, not in two, not in five. nato has an absolutely unique quality, but nevertheless we need to pass transition period i would really like the guarantees for us to be the same as the candidate, even if we are not

directly called the country that starts the vilnius donation movement, and here i would not be attached to myself there. i would really like the americans to say, let's give ukraine the same guarantees like we gave to finland and sweden, or we will think about how to change them, since they do not have to be perfectly identical, of course, we understand the difference in the situation, but in terms of content they should be exactly the same . m later it will be earlier it is actually important but not critical for me it is really important that this wind do you remember how the scorpions started singing once he started singing about the wind change in moscow and now he sings in a completely different way now he sings about

ukraine, this is the wind. i feel it is changing in france, it is changing in germany not as quickly as we would like, but they are starting to talk about us as part of the western world, this is the understanding that is gradually coming in, and macron's speech was very, very revealing, and for me it is actually if you want, it was the most ambitious and positive speech by macron since the war. i mean precisely the public speech. and this is worth something from the french president, mr. pavlo, but you said that in this yet another direct speech of macron, he said what should the west look at? this is mine with other eyes, real eyes on the euro -european integration processes of ukraine, but in your opinion as a specialist, are there other real eyes in europe right now, ha ha ha ha, in cool questions

, well, of course there are eyes. so far, there is no consensus in what way to repeat the mistakes made in the previous reality of the mistakes regarding the western balkans where this process pretended to be something like that for the sake of the process and in some small political quarrels without an ambitious understanding of what europe is actually about and we will surely remember today exactly those that were in moldova er, the summit in moldova is about defining what it is today because of one question we will talk ok i won't jump overboard i will behave politely i just said that we will discuss this issue yes i just stated that this opinion, because in france, this is what i feel from my friends and acquaintances , they understood that

it does not make sense to drag it on endlessly and to apply tactics in advance, it does not mean that someone will give us discounts of some kind, because of geopolitics or something else, but the process itself is already seen in a different way europe as such is seen in a different way and what strikes me is that in europe they say that we need to change the decision-making mechanism within the eu , we need to change the european union itself, but actually our eve integration has become such a driving factor for this, they understood that it is impossible to change for the 21st century and it is not necessary to set it as a condition, but regarding the condition of the condition, it is necessary to understand what the european union must understand and what europe is in the 21st

century. and what is needed in order for europe it was mentioned somewhere in africa on the same level as the united states and china as the same player, we are interested in this concha since we are becoming part of europe , informal and then formal, that is, macron thinks that we are drinking, he wants to be the driver of this new europe. i don't even rule out that he will go to ukh someday in the future. i don't know what the name of this position of a european president will be. to support, that is, we live in an era when the european union itself wants to reinvent itself, and this cannot be done without ukraine, er

, it’s true, it’s true, that’s right, mr. pavlo, we still have two direct languages ​​in order to discuss another topic, first let’s have direct languages ​​with meeting of foreign ministers of nato member countries which took place last week in the capital of norway, oslo, and first let's listen to what was said during this meeting by the secretary general of the north atlantic alliance alliance tolpenberg whens but yours we don't know when the war will end but we must make sure that when this happens, we will have reliable mechanisms to guarantee the security of ukraine, they will break the circle of russian aggression, the details of how it will look, what mechanisms will be used are still being agreed upon, the idea is to prevent history from repeating itself, to prevent russian president putin from continuing to undermine european security, this is the goal

then we discussed the means of achieving it , briefly about the fact that we will not allow the russian president to continue undermining european security, and now another direct speech from the minister of foreign affairs of the new minister of foreign affairs of estonia, margos tsakhesna we very clearly support the idea of ​​providing ukraine with a detailed path to join nato as a full member. i believe that the alliance will be a strong guarantee of security for ukraine after the war and we need to send a clear signal that in the neighborhood of russia will no longer have any gray areas, that is, mr. pavlo , look, i listened to other direct conditions from this meeting, that is, such a clear message that the victory of ukraine is not only

the victory of ukraine in the war with russia for the aggressive war with russia, but this is the victory of the whole of europe, can we say that this is already such a consensus, a consensus attitude in europe , is it honored, so far, it is still being formed, that is, everyone has their own logic, what does the victory of europe in this war mean for everyone absolutely understood that allowing russia to raise rates again would be the defeat of the whole of europe, the toltenberg process, only that kzm is absolutely direct, that is, the question is whether ukraine's accession to nato will be delayed with a transition period from the new a new meaning of guarantees and these guarantees sorry for the slang should break it putin and any

other regime that may be in russia in general even think about attacking europe and we in this sense belong precisely to the european and trans-atlantic space or will there be any other option in fact, what was the discussion, what was the discussion that is happening now, it is inclined to the fact that during the war, of course , nato cannot make a decision about our entry and cannot start a discussion about the specifics, well, or of course it does not want to, i think that the world is changing very quickly and that the impossibility of vorskla can be important, important in vilnius that the impossibility of freedom can become important during the next year in washington, that is, in fact, the world with

its own red lines that it sets for itself and then tries to adhere to then he tries somehow to jump over the main thing. don't set endless labyrinths of red lines and have an ambitious vision, and this ambitious vision is not yet taking shape, and this is the meaning of your question . nevertheless, it is starting to be discussed and everyone it is clear that it is impossible to return to the status quo with gray zones, because these zones have a tendency to explode, they provoke putin to do something and then try to destabilize us and europe, and remember what putin wanted before the war to return to the status quo of 1997 this means having all of central europe as a certain

zone of common neighborhood there with europe , with the united states, that is, they claimed to return to europe before the second world war. and now they are talking about how to somehow isolate them there within the limits of today borders, what will happen next, we will actually see that this strategic isolation is actually becoming the key strategy of the approach towards russia, and in russia they are beginning to not only understand it, in russia they are beginning to feel it. look, what are the results of restricting russia's oil and gas exports, today's gas prices er, they fall, er, the eighth week is not there from the 9th week, that is, what

will be the real revenues of gazprom in the future, and also to china , he is shouting at putin’s head, and he is absolutely frank and rude and says, well, do you want to board gas in china well then, let's not have discounts. and we'll see what to do with you later , and the oil that is now flowing to india and china , it is still with discounts and there was still such a significant meeting of apec this weekend and this topic is out of sight directly, even though out of sight, they accuse her of manipulating statistics in an attempt to export more oil at discounts in order to somehow balance her budget and her expenses for the war with us, which means that in fact russia enters into conflict with many

not only in the western world e-e and c to the non-western world. for example, what happens with the same saudi arabia is clearly in our hands, and it is very important for us that russia is seen not only in the western world as such a bully without rules, who is actually ready for anything and who cannot be trusted . on the occasion when we will talk about the responsibility of russia, and this cannot be done only within the framework of the western world, it is clear , mr. pavlo, and now we have such innovations , now we will always interrupt our program somewhere in the middle for a short advertising break

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if everything goes well, events of the day in two hours, vasyl's big broadcast in winter, a project for smart and caring people in the evening, the most important thing is the war in ukraine, the main topic for ukrainians, victories and losses, analysis and forecasts, politics and geopolitics, all this will be talked about by serhiy rudenko and the guests of his program, people who have information and shape public opinion people who defend ukraine and create the future right now the main and interesting thing in the program is the verdict serhiy rudenko from june 5 on weekdays at 20:00 repeat at 12:10 this is the world during the war we are back live again on the espresso tv channel and also on the air on youtube with me on the phone minister of foreign affairs of ukraine 2014-2019 pavlo klimkin mr.