[000:00:00;00] such an instant reaction, all the more so, again, well, the process is still ongoing. we don't know yet, we see terrible footage of flooded cities and villages. i don't know the sacrifice yet, but it's clear that there will be victims and all that . well, i hope that some the reaction will still take place in the coming days, it affects not only the ecology of ukraine . in general, this applies to the whole world. it does not even stand from the point of view of the global. yes , what can raise these clouds with unknown things. when it dries up , everything can rise and go to bulgaria as well. in it is possible for romania to continue this agriculture, which is supported on this water, so to speak. well, this does not only apply to the left bank, this

applies to the right bank even less, so to speak . well, that is, ukraine is a feeder, one way or another, one of the feeders of the world, including for nothing, so to speak. he is so worried that there is a problem with grain. because it is grain. well, the world needs it. the world needs not only grain, and all of this, of course , will affect the food security of the world very strongly in one way or another. by the way, by the way selling security literally against the background of what is happening in the kherson region today, the leaders of five african countries are meeting with putin. well, with zelenskyi with peace initiatives, that is, the south of africa . yes, the north is also interested in the transportation of buyers of ukrainian grain , and not only africa and in this way, russia is destroying the kakhovsky hpp, which was built

in the fifties of the last century, well, in fact, it is destroying the entire system of the agro-industrial complex that existed until now in the kherson region and in the zaporizhia region, well, african countries of course, they are worried because this is, well, this is really a very serious problem for africa , including ah, how much their efforts will really be there. russia gives fertilizer to someone for free, so to speak, well, that's all. it's more of a pr conversation, so to speak, that african countries supposedly support russia in

opposing the west, so to speak, from the fact that they will come, how many proposals for peace since there are proposals to resolve this situation in some way, they are not fighting with ours, well , at least now they are not fighting with our interests to protect their country, that's why it's still necessary. well, it's a certain time. already now about the kakhov hpp, first of all, it is not clear what the goal was. that is, maybe there is such a thing that really. they are so afraid of a counterattack. what is possible in such a certain situation, considering that they very often make huge mistakes there. maybe they did not expect that the whole dam would go, so to speak everything will be destroyed. it is possible

not a part to flood those islands, but also to provide opportunities for ukraine's counteroffensive, that is, to shorten the front line, maybe this is putin's game in the long run, that is, he is exhausting ukraine , of course, this is all how we did not brag there and did not say that, well, we can withstand it, but it all beats there is in terms of the economy according to the mood according to well, i don't know, well, in the whole play, and for now he has opportunities . he uses shelling every day , now blow up the hydroelectric power station, he is waiting for a moment when i don't know when we are really ready. come on agree, yes, of course, on putin's terms, or when he expects when the west's patience will run out from the point of view there. well, of course, that's all, and god forbid, food problems and other humanitarian problems. it can't be solved one way or another, only ukraine alone will need help, the help of the west

it's all money, maybe he doesn't calculate that well, we can see how the dynamics that will change the mood of the citizens , the latest study of eastern europe is very strange , but the bulgarians of slovakia, well, in general, their support is falling very much, although for example i was surprised that they are more positive in eastern ukraine, well, in eastern europe , they treat ukrainian refugees in ukraine, that is, they ask a lot of questions . to help, but it is possible in this way, this is my version, so to speak, it drags on. of course, there will be such disasters of this level, they hinder, so to speak, the effective functioning of not only

the ukrainian state, but also the military machine ukrainian, well, and many other values, you have already mentioned the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. it is located on the shore of the kakhovsky reservoir and has been under the control of the russians for the last 15 months, well, that is, at the beginning of the great russian war in ukraine . if the water level in the kakhov reservoir falls, it may endanger nuclear safety or a nuclear accident may occur. russia has long been using nuclear blackmail on zaporizhzhia npp in order for ukraine to be inclined to accept the so-called territorial reality, as they say, the new one, that all the occupied lands of russia, ukraine must recognize

or, well, in what way to legitimize it. directions and strikes on other infrastructure, including the infrastructure of the nuclear power plant in zaporizhzhia or energodar expected that is, it is not the case that this situation would arise right in the middle of nowhere, and it was expected that something could happen to this, so now we will be expected to see what will happen from the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. of course, this is a completely different

level of danger. let's say yes, well, roughly speaking, blackmail is accepted yes, well, directly strike at - blow up there, for example, er, these i'm not talking about the zaporizhzhia station , blow up these sumps or tanks with water that cool the reaction, well, that would be well , simply no, probably not even for russians not let's assume yes, because it's clear to everyone, and write the pressure on russia, and even then , probably, china and india will join another country, but put in such a situation that it is possible for this to happen, yes, it is also possible that this is also an option, putin is counting on a situation with no way out for him ah, but if we take some historical parallels, well, it was, so to speak, yeah, hitler, arriving at the station , barely a few days before his suicide , demanded the flooding of the berlin subway,

together, so to speak, with someone who there finds is to stop the advance of the allied troops, so i say once again that everyone can in this situation hope for an exceptionally rational assessment of the situation on the part of putin. we cannot, because we do not fully understand what kind of world he lives in now. him, and if this is all putin himself believes . well, when they show, oh my god, the harvester film , by the way, from last year and tell that it was hit on the leopard, the second one, so that he was

calling some simply unworldly numbers from on the occasion of the death of our soldiers, the destruction of equipment, everything else well, then it is really difficult to expect rationality, it is simply difficult for us to expect it, although it seems to me that, after all, it also happened at the kakhovka hpp, this indicates that the mechanism of such actions that remain within the framework of a military operation is standing up for putin less and less , he understands that this is a matter of time. well, maybe he is really pulling until autumn and winter. they will again beat their aunts on the analytical system, they will try to organize some kind of blackout for us again, and all this against the background of what will happen as a result of this detonation, and so on

. there are many, many, many in europe and all over the world to help with this. by the way, we are now seeing this fragment on the screen when the russians hit the combine harvesters and said that they were hitting the leopards, well, that is, they destroy the combine harvesters and report that leopards are destroying we have a small synchronicity of putin about what he said about the zaporizhia npp, how he responds to what can happen there, let's see and hear putin , for example, everything that putin cannot say everything about the zaporozhye nuclear power plant, but it is possible to assume that in the event of an attack on

the nuclear plant, russia's response may be the very weapon that they fear most. and is trying to blackmail the whole world eh putin is also afraid of the organization of the united nations european structures that allows them to eh calmly react to what is happening in ukraine well, how calmly, well, accept the situation as putin says, the territorial reality oh he threatens with this weapon. during the whole period, he used it even before sepia, and the use was nevertheless warned , it is meant that china and other countries, we

are now talking about neutral countries, yes. understand the west's response, because we must understand that here, so to speak, if you allow nuclear weapons to be used there , i don't know if there are any, well, i am here, it's hard to understand what she's running for. but it's clear that the only thing they have is , so to speak, which they didn't use. i have been a weapon for a long time, so first of all, if you are tactically, i am a weapon to us, in principle, apart from the terrible consequences of a specific territory , it does not fundamentally change anything, but it transfers the conflict to a completely different area, and we can already expect that the measure is inappropriate, well, the situation will simply be so very serious. yes, what if you don't answer for that tomorrow well, really, with the help of tactical or strategic weapons there, any question can be solved there , any question will be solved, so it will probably be some kind

of answer, we do not know how to do this, the situation is so unique that even examples in history are difficult to find, so to speak it's not difficult to say the same, it's impossible to find, that's why i think so far all these words that go with nuclear weapons - it seems to me, first of all, reassurance for one's own skit. to respond to the appearance of tanks with western equipment, they have promised how long it has been about russian territory, because they have already heard it all. the answer has already been passed - to blow it up . well, perhaps the answer is to expose kakhovsky. thank you, mr. oleksiy. it was oleksiy holobutsky , a political technologist, and we continue our program in we are in touch, roman kostenko, people 's deputy of ukraine, colonel of the security service of ukraine, he is currently in the kherson oblast

. good evening, roman. thank you for joining our program. good evening, colonel please tell me what the situation is at the moment in the region after the explosion of the kakhov hpp, and what we can see now is only the rise of the water, the water is going, the water is destroying practically everything in its path. separate houses are floating there, people's cars, trees there, which are twisted together with their roots, if it is towards the black sea, towards the islands that are there, it's the fact that the water is constantly rising in kherson and on the right bank, but we understand that this is despite the fact that the right bank is tens of meters higher than the left. and we can see that the main impact is on the left bank on

the territory occupied by the russians. this kakhovka will be the first to be flooded. you have already seen some footage of the fact that it was flooded from the very beginning right now on your screens there is also the left bank - it's olezhki gola prystan and beyond, all the essays are starting to spill there and are starting to flood, so let's say the situation now, while it has just started and there are promises there, experts say that there are still spills the water will be somewhere there until tomorrow the day after tomorrow, and what is happening now in your relatives, your relatives' homes in magical dad nothing is happening, it is higher it is located on the right bank, it is tens of kilometers from the dnieper, which is just higher, that is why this man-made disaster is just like a flood, it is mine in my native village

there is no threat but of course it is pink for you in my region in which i will tell you i was born and grew up what the russians got by blowing up the kakhovka hpp i.e. what was the need for russia, that is, they were afraid of a counteroffensive, they were afraid of the transfer of our e-e troops to the left bank, or had they already decided that they would definitely not be in the kherson region and, accordingly, in the crimea, because water from the kakhov reservoir went to the occupied crimea temporarily occupied crimea this is what i look like well, you know, you can look for logic in the military from a military point of view, when no humanitarian issues are put at all as a basis , you go looking for them and think from a military point of view , how do you remember the russians leaving their time in the 41st year, they tried to drown the germans, at the same time, according to historical data, the fifth-century germans drowned 100,000

of their own population, and here they are. such was their logic, it was difficult to stop the germans from advancing during the second world war. to say well, in general, any kind of movement of ours on the left bank, it was now unlikely, we and but they still came to the point of blowing up that they blew up the dam, of course, from a military point of view , understand that the dam was the only land connection practically from kherson to zaporizhzhia who could move to the left bank of the dnieper without getting their feet wet, let's say, they understood that . well, i think they were also repulsed by this. they also probably wanted the water barrier between the left and right banks of the dnieper, where we, in principle , inflicted serious losses on them on the left bank, maybe they wanted it to expand, they

were safer and plus the fact itself is like a genetic disaster. i think they definitely should have calculated and understood that no military benefits are comparable to what can be obtained in the council of those existing disasters which threatens the whole world and, let's say, is such a step when russia can once again talk about red lines once again and, er , pushed them back. thousand to 10 km which well, just without nuclear pollution. therefore, this is a very serious, let’s say so, a serious disaster

, the consequences of which we will have for a very long time after the war you say what it is the dam was the only place of connection between the right and left banks all the way to zaporizhzhia, look, i, er, as a military man, i see the situation that is happening, and i don't think that i was not skaz , er, among those five people when i said er- the head of the national security council or the secretary of the national security agency was what does anyone know about the counteroffensive operation, but i know that the kherson direction was not the main direction. we have other directions, which are zaporizhzhia, there is an eastern direction, and there is the beilogorod region, we have enough directions where the main concentration will be efforts and where i am not i know the decision of the supreme commander or the commander-in-chief to strike, that's why russia wasn't the main one there, uh, it just secured itself by the fact that they deprived the crimea of ​​water for a long time and flooded a large number of territories there, it says that it is possible in them somehow and the plans have changed, of course i don't believe it shall we say so, i don't believe that

they will turn around and leave, but this suggests that they probably have nadia to pay gradually there, but if they come to such methods and they once again show that they remember about kherson is forever with us, when we liberated it, these big boards were hung there, then a week later there were shellings and civilians were killed , and they are starting to destroy it en masse in the same way, and the territories that were captured on the left bank have now flooded many people, whole cities have been flooded, crimea has been left without water and do you even remember the main meeting, crimea needs to be given water, let's agree to give only water, in fact, some opportunity appeared, then they took it and cut it off in order to, well , excuse me, to cover their behinds during some offensive actions of our state there no one thinks for anyone russians think exclusively for themselves and don't always even think putin is there in everything you can say putin or his entourage is there directly every soldier just thinks to himself how he should do it

so that he is fine and at the expense of the detonation itself, i will say that here we carried out various tasks, including the destruction of equipment, and we destroyed quite serious equipment, and after a while we noticed that we had some results there. somehow they dragged but we thought that these are the consequences of the fact that we give them the impression and they leave, they drag them away so that we don't get them, and now we can honestly say that they have understood for themselves that they need to leave, they pulled away the equipment in general, they pulled people away from burns and thus built a new line there dug and then blew up the data according to the geneva convention actions to destroy the dams are a war crime and can be equated to the use of weapons of mass destruction is

enough according to you is the world's reaction to the fact that it happened at the kakhovka hpp eh look, i didn't follow the whole reaction of the world because today there is simply no time, but i heard about the reaction of the united nations organization, which is celebrating the day of the russian language there today and which , hmm, did not say anything at all or said something like that you can't, like, you can't destroy something like that, i think that this is not a reaction at all, and this organization completely discredits itself, and if they have a terrorist country sitting in the security council of this organization, which in the 21st century not only unleashed a bloody war after the second world war which un was created in order to prevent this. yes, it also created and, in addition to terrorizing the civilian population, thousands of rockets have already flown into our land and created the largest man-made disaster in the world, and

today they are celebrating the day of the russian language. maybe all the countries that are there should think and think about how to reformat it because the organization is not functioning at all, we need to do something new if we want if there was some order in the world mr. colonel thank you for the conversation it was roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine, colonel of the security service of ukraine, who is currently in kherson oblast, there are friends , please like this video if you are watching us now on youtube or facebook, and this will help us promote this video in the trends of these e-e platforms. well, subscribe on our social networks and join our sponsor club by going here you can find full instructions on how to join the prestigious sponsor club of youtube channel espresso by following this qr-code link and we will be happy to accept your help and

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southern fronts. do you agree with this the fact is that i want to refer to the comment of general naev, who spoke today about what he would do to our armed forces after the explosion of the kakhov dam. he said that such an option was considered, including when our when our offensive actions were planned therefore , this is not something unexpected and how to act in such a case was calculated and we know exactly well , our armed forces, the leadership of the command of the armed forces know exactly what and how to do it or its impossibility well of course, when the river split. after this terrible event, what the russians did , it will be extremely difficult to cross from the right bank to the left, but why did lomberg decide that

we were gathering our armed forces were gathering there to do some offensive actions about the main thing on the ships, although it has already been done several times, but that there will be several of them and they will be distracting, they will be the main ones and well, it is not a fact that we are going to climb there this fiery mud and it is not a fact that we were going to climb there exactly where the russians are waiting for our of the blow, you can refer to the statements of the minister of defense of the joint chief of staff of the pentagon , who also said in an interview today that , in order to win, the ukrainian armed forces need to find the weakest points in the defense of the russians, and it is directly aimed at us, and the strike seems to be obvious, well, but he was not in vain, he said, hinting at the fact that the russians cannot know where exactly we are carrying out our offensive actions, we have more than a thousand kilometers of the front line, but we know where their weak points are and exactly