[000:00:00;00] by them, some planter was injured somewhere, there were some traffic accidents, that is, there were traffic accidents from the highway, they were brought, therefore, in principle , they were familiar with the injuries of the first days there, minutes began to be afraid of such a nature, they started early, at the end, they were delivered. we were all living, in principle, those survived there, they were evacuated they were monitoring there for some time, i remember. in general, what kind of war started there on the 24th, that is, we were there on the 23rd on the phone, what is with us there in social networks, there, on , the stomach was pumped, the invasion, the invasion , we are still there with here's a best friend there there they discussed the political situation, got together, chatted and that's all, and they in the morning i'm going to work there at 5 o'clock somewhere there, i wake up, i was going there, and he somewhere there at half past seven and everything left for work on the corner . because there are stoptor rockets, well, it’s clear, at first, there was something like that, let’s say it’s not that there’s silk, what date, and then

they started somewhere in the air defense bases where there was somewhere, the rockets started arriving, we came to work on the first day returned . it is understood that everyone is in shock, that is, of hostilities we didn't feel any of them, except for a few rockets flying over there, that is, the first mass attack was there, and then quite quickly, probably a week didn't pass, i'm saying here, in principle, the zaporizhzhia region, that is, it is there in the neighboring there, there are settlements there in the area of ​​the centers that were somewhere there is also a birth there, yes, the uterus is already there in the first days of march and then let's put it this way, when the battle started there, it was already nearby there, we drove there, it was already 5-7 km , when someone arrived there, and around the city, there was already someone dominant was somewhere, once upon a time there, how can i survive there under a strong bullet, we can't get hit, what we remember are these first situations. we moved the operating room there to the first floor, they closed the windows there with some bags, they used to be there, they bring the wounded, we operate, and those who have their own room, so keep it there

the light went out, the generator turned on 7 took place on the territory of the hospital already so directly under, well, in the surgical building of ours in the therapeutic department there , the walls were destroyed after cleaning, there the electricity, water supply, completely disappeared, in principle , after that, the civilian staff of lesi evacuated combat zones here and there, near the contact lines, the civilian ambulance does not leave. well, if there is, it is coordinated. let's say yes , the coordination takes place through the emergency center, yes, the ambulance is called through the dispatcher, if it happens, a call is made here to that address, somewhere there, nuts, there, yes. military medics, evacuation crews, they bring us here, they bring us the victim, wounded or sick, whatever. there are people of their own accord. if anyone has transport, they come, and from here, from here, we provide here, let's say so urgent help and if uh let's say this closes the question at this level, what can we bring , well, outpatient surgical situations there

, that is, many people will press let's say in such conditions that there is a constant need to chop firewood, then drink beer, there are burns, there are some wear and tear, some abscesses, wounds that is, in principle, if it is possible to provide help there, it will be dangerous. let's put it this way, a person happens that people refuse to. we will not go there. there are still some fractures there. put a ghetto on you, in principle, they go home , they go to us for dressings, there are a lot of such people who probably fulfill the situation in principle, even in our conditions, here we did autodermatoplasty, skin transplantation, here we have a shock room in the ward where we er upon arrival of the patient , yes. if we have sorted out that he needs diagnostic assistance, it is no longer deep. he moves to the operating room if he needs an operation in this operating room in ours let's say, two operating tables

, two workplaces, anesthesiologists, here we have electrocoagulators, what equipment is there that performs heating of the patient, what is one of the anti-shock measures such as massive blood transfusions, it is necessary to warm the patient, and for this we have electric blankets that heat the operating table for this purpose, there is a special device that supplies a flow of warm air and movement, which was repaired already after the arrival here was yes that is, it is 10 m, probably, or we are even less from the facade of this building. uh, the flight, eh, it’s all in agreement with the hurricane , the projectile went off. yes, that is, everyone’s windows were destroyed. here everything was removed, the equipment was washed, repaired and, in principle, there , literally a few hours later, after six

hours , the operating room was functioning again. abdominal amputations where traumatic vascular bypasses are temporarily deployed on the basis of the premises here are deployed and created, er, there are operating rooms there, resuscitation rooms, that is, it is clear that it is possible to save lives, well, if this situation does not directly threaten lives now, that is, we are evacuating, then let’s say that the facility is going more safer, more steel, and the peculiarity is that here at any moment there can be , let's say, a mass influx of victims, and here the faster we free up resources there , human resources there, premises, equipment, then to be constantly on alert, this is the room where we provide assistance , let's say, to lighter patients with contusions , minor injuries , minor injuries. that come

here, on those that are green, that can walk on their own , that can wait an hour or two with them , even if they are there, there is a wave injury, and there is no danger there, there is no threat to the limbs the bleeding is stopped, it is possible there and after 3 hours we have help , uh, let's say the yellow ones can wait, that is , there will also be problems here, there is a serious problem , she is reaching uh, she is somewhere there , waiting for two hours yes, that is, red ones like him we need this person now and at this moment to provide help there internal abdominal bleeding or bleeding of the arterial limbs then all of them need to be provided as a priority yes there are blacks in the black zone yes that is these people who unfortunately in conditions of mass influx that is it is somehow impossible to help there, it is an open pedicle injury, for example, cerebral d3 enters there. yes, that is, the person in the fight is still alive, she is still breathing there, but even there in some conditions, let’s say more optimal there, in the conditions of the neurosurgical department , the prospect that this person will remain alive, she too

minimal and therefore in order to let's say concentrate these resources and save as many people as possible, that is , sorting is carried out and something else very quickly eh well, let's say re- orientate well, if you buy there some kind of new device yes. that is, you can look at it there, and you can read the instructions, in principle, use the same thing with wounds . they downloaded it to the viper e-mail and there were some methods there, in principle, everything was done there, methodical recommendations were given, that is, textbooks there on military field

medicine, there youtube, the same, that is, in in principle, it was not difficult for a perenterer to reorient himself in the rain. let's say yes, uh. in principle, in terms of what was left, well, i decided that how shall we say, well , let's say that ours is so general . people will all be there somewhere and leave and move to safe places, someone needs to do it, yes, then something like this aspect, why, let's say, everything is left there . well, i'm here. let's say, someone, first of all, the local population, a lot, well, i've worked on this topic since 2010 year, i know a lot here, and secondly, some communication issues between the local administration and the military should be given here , well, during this whole time , i know many people . the hospital, yes, someone, i’m there, well, let’s say, i knew the gap, they are here, what, where, how, how, the equipment works in networks, in principle, it’s, let’s say , the coefficient of effectiveness increased, yes, or

the functioning of the projectiles was brought to us as in in terms of medication here, we have in terms of medications on ivachi, how professional are the wounds, ladies, some operations, in principle, plus or minus such that something er differs from let's say the mechanism of injury was the second one, so that the firearm pressed a little, well, in principle, er, the algorithm of this treatment they how are they there with others like what is there, a person fell from a height and there his spleen was damaged, internal abdominal bleeding, too, exactly if the fragment would have entered there , they would have been wounded there in the middle, he had intra-abdominal bleeding, the same story what did you do with sex uhu you are there fraternity we that is there is some happened we here started there somewhere there some there to clean there there sort you know the concept of optimism and pessimism then about there the glass is half empty or should it be full yes in principle in the war yes the war there is terrible it is

i thought you were some kind of small guy, here they equipped a small house with heating for the winter, three rolls on top, two layers of wood, tires on the floor, the answer is yes, so it has electricity that works from the network and the generator, a cable with the internet is connected to the page with wi-fi in case there is no connection here . yes, that is, there is a bombardment of light. powered by artificial ventilation, that is, a ventilator, a transport defibrillator, a transport defibrillator, transport with a battery somewhere, in principle, even here, maybe

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in this war. ukraine in marathon is the only news that thursdays at 5:45 p.m. in conditions when it is difficult to be a person. so, andriy, i welcome you to the first channel of public broadcasting . i sincerely thank you for coming to us. please tell us how the institute of military chaplaincy is working in ukraine now. is there already a certain institute

for the analysis of this process? thank you very much for the invitation . with the beginning of full-scale russian aggression in ukraine, the armed forces of ukraine, the national guard of ukraine and the state border guard service of ukraine started the so-called military chaplaincy services, which in accordance with the law of ukraine about the service of military chaplaincy and such a law appeared in our country and back in november of the 21st year they actually institutionalized a very important i would say segment of providing for military personnel, providing for spiritual and religious needs, meeting spiritual and religious needs, this is exactly the purpose of the activities of these services as this is clearly stated in the law . so we are talking to you about this stage of institutionalization of pastoral care in the ukrainian army, to which the state of ukraine at its current stage of development came

and went even for 30 years and so the church and this, by the way, is a kind of international format for meeting the deepest needs of military personnel. we are talking to you about the institute of military chaplaincy that exists in some countries of the north atlantic alliance for more than 200 years. even if we are talking about the united states in particular, it is institutionalized . or even pro-european armies, yes. in other words, this is a component of the army in ukraine, since after gaining independence , it is still our pre-soviet period this search for oneself in the conditions when there is still a lot left from the previous system and therefore unfortunately, we lost a lot of time in this particular area because uh quite often the answer was heard every time we asked how it is possible to organize pastoral care in the ukrainian army uh from the side of state officials, accordingly, there was a reference to the 35th article

of the constitution of ukraine, which clearly states that the church is separated from the state in ukraine , and people did not ask themselves the question that a similar norm exists in all european liberal countries where the church is separated from the state and cannot dictate politics, but where the state, being democratic, takes care of the constitutional rights, human rights, and freedom of citizens and accordingly creates conditions that enable them to exercise their human constitutional rights , in particular freedom of conscience, in particular religion, is it correct? i understand that now a military chaplain is in fact, it is in every unit and every serviceman has the opportunity , if he feels such a need, to contact the chaplain, we will establish a military today chaplaincy exists only in the form of military service in the positions of officers, i.e. chaplains, a military chaplain is a professional profession

, a military accounting specialty, and these positions are for chaplain officers, they are regulated differently in all three services that i asked where military chaplaincy formally exists most of course, this is the service of military chaplaincy in the armed forces of ukraine, later for the national guard and the state border service, the peculiarities of the e-e services regulate this issue in different ways, but the essence remains the same, a military chaplain is an officer, a military serviceman, but at the same time, his only task is to satisfy the spiritual and religious needs of servicemen, as well as his mission, his battlefield is the soul of a ukrainian soldier, in order to mend, support, help, listen, first of all, of course, this too it is very important. therefore, the number of positions is usually determined by the total number or personnel of these services, and

later, through interaction, the ministry also of defense with the service of ukraine from e-e politics and freedom of conscience, the state turns to churches and religious organizations on the basis of a survey conducted in advance in order to provide the appropriate number of candidates or , in fact, clergymen who can be military personnel and perform the functions of military chaplains. cooperation between the state and the church in accordance with all constitutional norms and in accordance with the democratic traditions of the civilized world where such a service still exists once again, i emphasize that the most important task on the part of the state in this case is the realization of the constitutional human rights of citizens who believe that a newly-believed person and seconds in this context need such support, which greatly distinguishes us from, let's say, our

adversary, where rather the institute of military chaplaincy is a kind of subdivision of political propaganda, politics, the government , whose tasks are actually to ideologize and instrumentalize the military with propaganda . the civilized international tradition of military chaplaincy, where a person remains in the center of the state, in addition to military chaplains, every unit now also has a military psychologist, and when i was preparing for our conversation with you, i was sitting with border guards i knew, and one of them told me, i guess if i were choosing who to go to with some problem related to the fact that it is difficult for me because of the service because of participation in the war, then i would probably go to a psychologist and not to a chaplain. how do you feel about such a choice and do you have any

counter-arguments for this person, in fact, i have repeatedly heard from military personnel, and i have been in the war since 2014, why about the fact that if i had to choose such people, i would definitely go to a chaplain and not to a psychologist, times change , demands in society change and we live with you in society where everyone has the right to their own worldview, as i already mentioned, someone with such a religious worldview is closer and someone finds answers to the necessary questions there, it is easier for someone to talk to a psychologist and thank god if it helps for him to restore his own strength and then serve the ukrainian people effectively and qualitatively, because we live with you in this. the whole point is a deliberate differential at the beginning so that we are very different from what is happening in the state of the enemy, where the church is instrumentalized and becomes such a weapon in the first place a turn against human freedom of human consciousness where these things become mandatory to a certain extent and very ideologically propagandistic this is definitely not a european tradition it is definitely not a tradition of the democratic

world and it is definitely called the armed forces ukraine, if someone is more important, not what is more important. let's start with the fact that we are talking about two different methodologies . so, a psychologist is still a person who, according to a scientifically based methodology, provides help in order to organize the inner world of a person and help him somehow cope with the challenges that stand before her , the spiritual world is a different methodology, an appeal to revealed truths, an appeal to spiritual practices, and again, everything depends very much on where a person was formed in what environment in which culture and to what extent which of these methodologies or which of those languages ​​is closer to her i would like to finally talk about what is important for chaplains to talk to military personnel at different stages of their service because i understand that a chaplain speaks not only to those people who have been in the army for a long time, but for example with

those who have recently arrived, according to your observations , what kind of information do these people who have just been mobilized or just joined the army voluntarily need? what is important for them to hear, maybe to hear about the war i sometimes, of course, the mission of a military chaplain as caring for the spirit caring for the spirit of a soldier caring for the spirit of a military unit caring for the spirit of a commander these three directions tour and often i also formulate it as the ability to be near to bow the sky for a person in military uniform here oh bow the sky for a person in the military, it is consistent to help a person to remain a person in extremely demanding conditions in conditions where it is difficult to be a person , but as long as you and i remain human, we find the strength in ourselves to

in order to stand and move forward in order to fight because we understand why we feel and realize the taste of our humanity and therefore we see where there is a border between their e darkness and our light e these questions are of course so deep metaphysical but these are the questions from where a person sometimes seeks meaning for that to find strength in oneself and make the right decision, the right choice, the right step , even when we talk to you about military personnel, the difference is usually worth it , a person does not immediately become a soldier, only when he puts on a military uniform, there is more i would already call a special type of a person's character, and i call this type of character a warrior. this is already a person devoted to victory over himself, over life's circumstances, over an enemy of any scale and caliber, and it seems to me that today is the time when it is very worthwhile for us in ukrainian society to acquire about so that , in addition to military personnel and the military, we also have many, many more soldiers , even more than military personnel, so that

today ukraine feels the responsibility to move towards victory, the responsibility to move towards achievements of any scale and caliber, we are talking with you about a certain life-philosophy activity of a military chaplain - this is care for the spirit of a person and for those who have just joined the army for those who have made a choice and decided that here they want to protect here his people and his well, there is still so much that is unknown and uncertain and it is so very important , maybe there was someone who could just listen, hear , be near in order to tilt the sky for a person with his presence, so that they feel that she is, that she has a mission, that she is fulfilling something it is important for its people that it is not just in this world at this stage of our history, should a chaplain be on the front line with the military, technical questions and they depend very much on what the transmission looks like - we have had very different formats of the front line for 9 extreme years

where the chaplain is, the chapel should be there where he can be useful , if it is a place where the chaplain cannot be useful, and vice versa, his presence can hinder, of course, he should not be there if it is a place where people are waiting and needing and this is some kind of format that is once again being transmitted, a very general concept , it can look very different, we know this today. so , in any case, the chaplain must be where he is needed, well, let's take bakhmut for example . do you know that there are chaplains who have come to bakhmut during the last for several months, of course, we are constantly there , we are not in a place where you need to fire a howitzer, where artillery works.

the last question is to clarify what a warrior is about, it is about responsibility, it is about leadership, how would you describe a warrior, it is about the movement to victory , it is about the ability to feel that your life is fulfilled when you achieve what you have dreamed of, and therefore it requires a certain strength of spirit from you, it must from you the realization that you need to grow above yourself and overcome some challenges that appear and you have a dream and you have the right to protect it and you have the right to fight for it and when your people have a dream you have to be part of the army that is fighting and protects this dream, a real warrior is always a warrior. that is, we are talking with you about a certain attitude to life, about a certain vision of yourself, and it is very important that you know this format of awareness of the warrior in yourself, it is actually very important, in particular for people who suddenly find themselves in certain life crises. was it on the battlefield that you were wounded or now it is somehow difficult to gather yourself after everything you have seen and return to life when a person remembers that he is a warrior, he knows that today is difficult but does not

stop moving, that is, a warrior is not only about military service, they gave me a sincere thank you thank you chendria for this conversation, enemies must be stopped, protect yourself, the first steps are the most difficult, step by step, taking your time, knowing that there is someone nearby who supports you , someone who cares, someone who you trust , the first steps are necessary in order to eventually run

to what you want to what about dream every step lead us to victory let's walk together if you find yourself in a flood zone and cannot leave on your own wait for evacuation collect your things and climb as the tallest in the house to the upper floors or attic signal your place stay follow the messages and follow all the instructions of the emergency services keep calm and take care of each other do not overload the rescue equipment we keep the formation you stand we will win you want to eventually come to the ukrainian but the insidious brain continues to hold on to the russian like jack ze that door catch some simple and effective tips

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