[000:00:00;00] er, the reaction of the leaders of er, our allied states is also quite weak. it is surprising to some extent, although it is possible that a certain caution and a desire not to draw certain premature conclusions can be traced here. well, i talked about this somewhere yesterday. it seems to me that such actions of the aggressor only stimulate ukraine must mobilize even more, become more determined and throw the aggressor out of our territory even faster, i.e. russia, my belief is that it is always on one and the same rake , they are used to their entire history that they are trying to use terror, intimidation, repression, etc. certain services and achieve certain positive results for themselves, and actually in ukraine they are constantly trying to do this by terrorizing the civilian population

, shelling civilians or energy infrastructure, and so on. to act well, in my opinion, it should not harm our counteroffensive, our future victory , on the contrary, if at least in those territories that sank, it should significantly complicate defense for the enemy, picture of the book to you as a person who knows how to use information technology, he knows how to work with information, so p- buchyn said that there was a weak reaction from the west, but i personally, well, i carefully followed the reaction of russian propagandists, they first tried to translate it's all on ukraine and they always do it in any situation . we will be busy with everything, but on the other hand, they are parallel. after this tragedy, for some reason, they very actively started talking about the need to stop putting up with

there is their propagandist margarita simonyan, even their propagandists are parallel in telegrams, but they started to slander, and today is another interview with the self-proclaimed president of belarus, lukashenka, where is it again? well, i would not like it, we have friends of our enemies be treated with respect but nevertheless, there is some kind of whining about peace on any terms, what do you associate it with, and in general , your thoughts on the tragedy of the kakhov hpp well, first of all, i want to give you a little to master, we do not treat them with respect, we have to evaluate from the point of view of the weapons that they have, their people on the high-level plans , but treat with respect somehow neither to putin nor to lukashenka i certainly do not uh, in general, i agree with what you say and with your analysis you know, i read two interesting articles today, one was by timothy snyder about how to present this tragedy, and the second was a very good article on facebook by yevhen

bystrytskyi, uh, about the so-called klyatusymetry , because it seems to me that uh, well, not only we we often err. here he also errs very often, and we must put the world in its right place, because it is the ukrainians who are defending this world from evil and there is no symmetry here, as bystrytskyi writes, i'm sorry, russia attacked ukraine , the station was located on the territory occupied by the russians, always for everything what is happening in these territories in accordance with all international conventions, including the geneva convention, the occupier bears full responsibility for everything that happens there, there can be no one else responsible for what is happening there , let's see who suffers and dies, it suffers even ukrainians are on the right bank, and it’s terrible when we see and read on social networks that a woman with two children died in front of another pensioner when you read it, it’s just a disaster, but on the left bank there are many people left who could not evacuate, who are

also ukrainians and who are dying. yes, i was a little late, but i heard here under the door. how did you talk about the balance, which said that nothing is happening? you understand that chernobyl exploded in chernobyl, and they said then that nothing is happening, they can't do it any other way. they only know how to deceive and turn a blind eye to the obvious, and this was one of the reasons for the collapse of the soviet union and will probably become one of the reasons for the collapse of russia in the future , because such a system cannot survive, we must clearly tell ourselves that there is an aggressor and, unfortunately, there is a victim victims - these are ukrainian citizens who are the victims of this aggressive, genocidal epoxy man on russia's predatory policy, the responsibility lies only with russia, the west must understand this, our diplomats , er, our services, which are responsible for our information policy, must report this their responsibility is also ours, that is, i am ashamed for the world. i think that it is obvious that our people who are engaged in information policy have not finished their work, but i am very ashamed for

international institutions, for the world, for international journalists who put the aggressor on the same level as the killer of the scoundrel who controls it and the country that defends its independence defends the whole of europe and the whole world from authoritarianism and attacks and brutality and murder and says let's listen to two points of view which two points of view the enemy must be destroyed the enemy you are responsible for the life of ukrainians, therefore, we as ukrainians, you as ukrainian journalists, those people who are responsible for the information that we give to the world must do everything to convey it to the whole world, to those who suddenly began to doubt something there, to think that this is not their war that this will not affect tomorrow, that russia will not go further and turn a blind eye to the killed ukrainians, by the way, it is a very valid opinion that many of the world's media, well, even asked themselves such a question.

crucian carp is in touch with us, yevhen. good evening, we have finally established a connection . please tell us what conclusions you have drawn from the kakhov tragedy, and i am interested in your opinion in the context of the absolutely helpless actions of the russians, who, well, even in that propaganda hungarians blaming ukraine for all the troubles they still demonstrated that they have absolutely no control over there , cannot carry out evacuations, and this is the situation when ukrainian drones saw a family in the occupied territory asking for help and then er, such ukrainian military ukrainian emergency personnel were able to extract this family and already er transferred to the territory of controlled ukraine, which seems to me to be a very clear indicator of where the state is and where there are thieves who

are incapable of anything. two interesting phenomena, firstly, those monkeys are not even capable of controlled intelligence, they caused such an ugly disaster, which led to the second interesting fact, it turns out that they are russian, they are able to evolve to the level of a koala, because today i watched 80 of them between the brigade she is russian, she is in the trees, they are koalas, they are holding on under them. flowing water flooded their equipment. i understand that some weapons , some of them drowned because they were simply blue, and it is obvious that all these phenomena that are happening, well, there is only one reason, they are very afraid of our counteroffensive, so i would always like this maybe i'm a little bit too uh too hmm optimistic if not to say i've already lost my mind well i always look from a positive point of view even this whole tragedy and all the genocides oh

well the army is a winner it doesn't need it she doesn't need to put it in washing machines and she doesn't need to kill the gas, all terror, terror is not a military method, terror is a method that replaces the fighting power of your armed forces, so if these dodiks use such methods, then they are very afraid. we have every chance to end them and it is obvious that the intentions announced by the general staff are a hoax regarding the de-occupation of our lands, and it is possible in the future, as i have already said, that victory by these that you are already possible is division, if it is also a piggery , then i am sorry for every such tragedy. i make sure that these plans are absolutely realistic, sir, we will not ask you to comment on the latest information that the ukrainian counteroffensive began according to the report of the international media , because, well, we are somewhere even inside our country, and we agree to summarize the consequences of this counteroffensive instead of predicting, but about the helplessness of the russian army. i now want to offer you and all our viewers to watch one

video. i immediately want to apologize for this video , it will be the minister of defense of the russian federation his latest statement that we don't listen to him at all, what is he talking about, but look at the look with which the minister of the country that wanted to capture half of the world makes his statements and mr. yevhen would like you to comment on this because what can this indicate today at 1:30 a.m. in the zaporozhye direction by the forces of the 47th mechanized brigade, honestly , up to 1,500 people and 150 of them are armored vehicles, the enemy will open a demand, conducted our defense today, reconnaissance, the enemy was discovered in a timely manner, a preventive strike, honestly, i simply cannot imagine that any ukrainian military serviceman, even on the first day of the full-scale attack on the russian federation, he looked so miserable, they are better , you think, and there is still, i think, a specificity that

i don’t understand him as a character, in principle , there is a facial expression, some kind of emotional intelligence, and he looks like a shaman or who is he? line water and whether or not water was lowered to the steering wheel eh but of course well, what do we understand they are now? well , all of russia is waiting for the ukrainian counterpart, all russians, will there be waiting people in moscow soon , something will arrive there on this matter, i had no idea there is a gas junction, where is it located in them, is there no broadcasting, how much? in short, we know that there is a gas -gas pipeline, they all expect our active actions to be a fundamental break, and i observe that none of them has confirmed the possibility after our counteroffensive of any kind russian counter-attacks, because they understand that they do not have enough personnel, lack of weapons and training, well, they evaluate themselves very quickly, the problem is that they are sheep, well, they are stubborn, and

it will take the destruction of this herd of occupiers very we have a lot of our resources, our blood, this is the only problem . that is, we now see the goal, we know what to do with it. but it is simply a very difficult job, that is why our counteroffensive. at some point there during the operational breakthrough there and so on somewhere they will be sprinkled and then the result will be eh and here it is not even that there will be somewhere eh we have examples of three operations such as the kharkiv lawsuit and then the kherson lawsuit, they were all of different types everywhere the command achieved its goals accordingly, the enemy gradually moved away from kyiv, then now it has already moved away from other regions, now only the donbas remains there and now they are already moving to there the war is moving , well, the military observers said about this that at the beginning of the war, to begin with, it will be kyiv, then donbas, then the war will move to russia well, maybe there is something else here, the first phase, the first phase of this breakthrough, and so on, it will be very bloody in any case, and we all need to understand the price of this war, i will not

say any of these words that all they are used to it being financially difficult, all of them understand perfectly well, but the truth is , few people understand that they need to hand over 20 million from them to hamsters, not to hamsters, and it would be better to hand over cars to the brigade. but what i want to say here is that the counter -offensive and whether the offensive will take place now, or maybe we are having fun, but maybe budanov and zulazhnyy are playing with the russians now, just as they sneered when they were brought several times to give an offensive, maybe this offensive will generally be in the fall, on september 1, for example well as in the children will go to school. and we will go to russia. it could be that it is obvious that something big will happen because we have always kept our promises when it will be seen. well, i want to appeal to all our viewers. it will be very bloody. but if we do not go to her if there is not this heavy battle and we do not finish them off from here, then we will be left with half of ukraine , people will not return here in 10 years they will attack again

and we will all die, that is why this attack will be bloody , it will be difficult, but we have to do it now the maximum support from society to the armed forces is not as everyone thinks, well, when will you finally take a mask there, yes, crimea, and really, a lot of people have relaxed, i just know that people tell through the commune, this is it, i am interested, if only, holy mother, what do i need to complete myself the number of groups in our country is also growing, the number of brigades is growing simply astronomically, this is the number of the armed forces , and the human support of ordinary citizens is exhausted. chatter may begin, such as maybe it is not needed there, let's give something else there, let it be there, let's settle down, no, it must be very tough, but the offensive to wash this acquirer will cost us dearly, and therefore now everyone needs to concentrate the support of the armed forces of the crucian carp, traditionally not selecting expressed on our broadcast, mr. zhurtenko, you will have a question , in fact, mykola knyazhytskyi spoke about this and

mr. buchyn said that this reaction of the international community is an attempt to understand this situation. uh, these are apparently correct messages that should allow uh, including the ukrainian side for investigation with the help of the united nations . such a development of events and once again they were disoriented as they were in the end and in the first days of the full-scale invasion of the russian federation, will they be able to gather their thoughts and still develop a competent and correct strategy here, in fact, there are two important points that we must remember when we analyze the reaction of the west, we analyze the reaction of western politicians, er, leaders, er , countries of our western allies, er, the first

point is that, in fact, er, all our western allies are democracies that have what is not a dictatorship is this internal discussion, an internal dialogue that any president of any democratic country must consider, he must understand when making his statements in relation to even such a global security crisis as the russian-ukrainian war that that he has opposition inside the country, he has citizens inside the country who very often do not understand absolutely and in principle they do not consider it necessary to understand to understand the details and they will ask this politician questions and if this politician makes statements, what will these questions cause that is, well, we must realize that our allies, despite their desire to help us, must take into account this internal aspect, and every president of every country should understand this

and adapt to it, and we in the united states in the states, we can see from trump’s statements that he says absolutely wild things, but this is part of american democracy and no one can prohibit him from this, that is, this moment that definitely affects this reaction and we must pay attention to this moment, but the day of the russian language in the walls of the united nations when a completely separate story will take place - it's a-ah, we actually slightly overestimate international institutions, because at the beginning of the war, we, well, we had too high expectations in relation to nato, for example. so we asked nato to close the sky over ukraine. but we didn't really carefully read the washington treaty and the fifth article of the washington treaty, which says that the main philosophy of the alliance is the security of the alliance territory and everything else is not of interest to them, that is, they can indirectly take some actions, as they say outside, but only to the extent that it firstly, it does not put them in danger and secondly , to the extent that it contributes to their own security. that is, this is a slightly exaggerated expectation, the same organization of the united nations is

a universal international organization that was created after the second world war only as a platform for discussing problematic moments of international relations and international security, there has never been such a world global policeman , no un peacekeeping mission actually led to the cessation of the conflict as such, and the blue helmets never gave such a practical result, so again we must evaluate the reaction of international actors according to, well, as it were, taking into account their authority, taking into account the ideas that are laid down, for example, in the same international organizations, and one more important point, and we we see that the west is being transformed in general, that is, if we compare , for example, the statements of our westerners at the beginning of the war in the first days of the russian invasion and already, for example, in the second half of the 22nd year, then this was already heaven and earth. that is, we see how this

russian aggression is actually -e transforms the worldview of our western allies, they relaxed, they did not see a war in europe after 1945, it is possible not only to what extent and not so much russian aggression , because it is like ukraine against stryla russia, it is also well, because uh, well, we are dealing here not only with the absolutely terrorist absolutely cannibalistic russian regime that does not count with its own losses or with the losses of the civilian population of ukraine , well, after all, they do not hide that they want to destroy this state, they want to destroy us all, that is, well, this is their goal, so we do not in principle, we should especially wonder why they abandon people who are in the occupied territories to their own devices, they are not interested in solving these problems, the main thing is to drown it all, and you do it by filling it with earth, do it a gray zone so that we are not interested in nato or in principle well, it is like a buffer russia , i see my security only in this way and actually how we resist this enemy is also one of

the very important facts that mobilizes the west and, in the end, even the americans they mentioned that they are the leaders of the free world and the struggle for freedom is still very relevant , we are adding to our conversation volodymyr kovalenko, the legitimate mayor of novaya kakhovka, which is currently temporarily in the occupied territory , volodymyr says to you good evening and glory ukraine good evening glory to the heroes please tell me what is happening in nova kakhovka and i really want to hear your comments about what the occupiers are doing in order to derail this situation there because everything we saw this is at the beginning, we saw an absolutely crazy video of saldo, who stood on the background of a flooded square somewhere on the second floor and told us that there is no water, we know about uh

, it's simple. we know absolutely unique stories when the ukrainian military, with the help of their drones, found people in the occupied territory who asked for help and pulled them out into the territory under the control of ukraine now , what is happening now in nova kakhovka , as far as we understand there from the side of the occupation authorities, in general, complete chaos because today really ends the third day of a terrible disaster provoked by the enemy . and considering that nova kakhovka is 500 m from kakhovka all the way down the dnieper, it is understandable that

the first ceilings of water at four o'clock in the morning , they were already in the territory, the territory of novaya kakhovka began to be flooded, people called me at least. on the first day of the explosion , three streets of kakhovka were flooded. and why do i say three streets because the streets run parallel to the dnipro on the left bank, parallel to the river dnipro? the coastal area was the most flooded from the dnipro to the dniprovsky prospekt, this is a recreation area, our park, our sports complex is 12 hectares, there is a yacht club, a children 's sanatorium, a palace of culture, well, as a matter of fact, our zoo , where animals died, has risen. the fact is that i knew the calculations, they were from those periods when the hydroelectric power station was built, where will the water rise, taking into account the wave that it will go? well, your calculations were practically confirmed, and yesterday at lunch , the water began to leave in the same place, because

geopsia is the slope of the bank to the water. so that after a kilometer, even with complete destruction 1.5 km further, the city could not be flooded, the old part of the city was affected, and two two streets for the housing stock. i want to say that from the first minutes until today, the occupation authorities did nothing because at 9:00 in the morning, i was already talking, eh. with at least some kind of help in mind, here are two performances of eh, these two eh, what do you call them on tv, and on that, all the people moved on their own, the sokil microdistrict, this is a much higher area of ​​the city. nova kakhovka was not so affected. we have 8 more of rural settlements, and korsunka settlement was the most affected. the height of the water in the city was 3 m in the settlement, and

it reached the roofs of residential buildings. the territory is all flooded, and again the people themselves , and the occupation troops did not let them out on the first day of the field, into the depths of the territory, such villages as novellagaria, sandy scraps of olive trees , the people left by themselves, and today they returned to in boats they sailed around korsunka looking for animals to save dogs and er kittens if they could be found there. well, this is the situation . according to eyewitnesses, the foreigner did not let people on this avenue dniprovsky, where the basements of residential buildings were flooded, they only started in the second half of the one who had the documents in

their hands that you are registered here, registered , they started poo well, to this day, it is known that they were on the shore in trenches with trenches and mined, this area is now flooded, and accordingly they began to populate the nearest street , dniprovsky avenue, to the shore, to occupy residential buildings, there is such information, that is, they went up to 200 m or 300 m from the dnipro and are again occupying residential buildings, and the same situation is happening in the populated the points of the dnipro people are lower, eh. this is between novaya kakhovka and korsunka. there are even facts that people are again starting to be expelled from the outer streets to the dnipro and they are being eh settled by enemy copsing troops, mr. volodymyr, one more question. well, if with from a military point of view, to analyze the flooded territories of the left bank, it is noted that they were mined very often and in many places, and now, in fact, these mines

are located in, well, it is terrible to talk about it and imagine that they are in fact in free swimming. i can't imagine the situation that can be resolved, but nevertheless, what do you know , eh? new kakhovka is now a large number of crawlers , well, it’s uh, frogs, fish right on the streets on dniprovskyi dvora avenue, the water wants to go away, all this is in awards, where the water has already gone uh, um, well, rubber tires , uh, sticks, anything there but the strange thing is that yesterday in dnipro residents saw up to a dozen corpses floating along the river dnipro in

the area of ​​the settlement of dnipro . of this flow in the first hours, there was such and such a force that it is clear that these mines can go under the trees and anywhere. by the way, i want to say that they informed their troops in a timely manner. somewhere at 5 o'clock early in the morning, from the last outermost street of kosyntsi, they saw that and further between korsunka and the dnieper there is a certain distance of 400 meters, then i saw on a tree on trees, eh, soldiers of the occupying forces who were shouting for help, although there are also i have information from the hpp itself

those troops, in sufficient numbers or not in full, which were at the kakhovsky hpp until the moment of the explosion, left in two days and settled in the garden corporates, uh, this is labor and energy , two such cooperatives, but they are on the banks of the kakhovsky reservoir, and accordingly, those who settled in that did not this flooding is also a question, yes, who blew up such a situation, that is why the mines, a large number of them, of course, were washed away , because this is nova kakhovka, these are sandy soils, and of course they were required. and how far the water carried them today , no one can say. thank you, volodymyr kovalenko, legitimate the mayor of novaya kakhovka, which is now temporarily under occupation, we will return and we will definitely rebuild this city, mr. salabai, and you have a final word , because we will have a change of guests, then there will be mr. buchyn. as far as you can assess as a person who has already worked in the kherson region it was not an easy time when we worked in this region

. how difficult will it be to restore everything that was flooded? we, these cadres, together with you , analyzed different areas already directly in kherson, where the water obviously brought a lot of trouble. well, in fact, it will be difficult the reason is that, first of all, it is water , secondly, it is dampness, and thirdly, we all understand very well that the number of shelters that we prepared before the surrender for people, where they can hide from constant daily shelling, now they need again to do at least repairs, well, the only thing is that when the water goes down, it will be a little easier for the south, because the temperature there is much drier, higher , maybe it will dry quickly, but we have to give ourselves an account of the fact that we can't assess yet what the consequences will be, but i'm fine

i understand in this context what to take into account the situation that i am in kherson at the moment, if we take into account the fact that new technology has only just begun to appear there, technology that is imported and provided by other cities, little by little , people have started to return, and people are always resourceful , intellectual workers, and so on . -e, a little bit, fill the budget, e-e, budget institutions with funds, and it is somehow possible to start all e-e management processes . now we have a stretch back in time and we have to start again with the fruits of e-e, well, overcoming those consequences. unfortunately, we we understand that the regional center of kherson - this is essentially the only regional center during the full-scale invasion of the russian federation

last year, which was captured and repelled, and the very dramatic fate of kherson in this war. of these consequences, which we will be able to estimate later, we must understand that there are also large agricultural lands. yes , what did the people live on? we must understand that there are already flooded areas on which there were elevators. that is, there is a large amount of environmental disaster, which we will assess later. and actually there is still an area where the city did not fully work with this, you understand, precisely with such losses. therefore, it will actually have a very critical impact on the region, and i think that not for one year. but nevertheless, we are waiting for the liberation of all territories and everything we will work out we will rebuild immediately after the tragedy at the kakhovsky hpp, information appeared and eventually somewhere they called on the legitimate authorities, which are now on the territory of ukraine, that we must be very careful in the occupied