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[000:00:00;00] you are watching the program of the ukrainian voice of america service time my name is maria lyanovska i congratulate the british prime minister rishi sunok met with the president of the united states joe biden in washington, the visit was prophesied for the anniversary of the landing of the troops of great britain, the united states and canada on the coast of normandy in 1944 , the leaders held a closed meeting at the white house and later answered the questions of the press , yulia yarmolenko followed the event and we will talk with her about why this visit is important for ukraine and what the leaders of the united kingdom and the united states agreed upon yulia, hello, maria let's start with whether the leaders talked about ukraine at all, in particular about the blowing up of the kakhovka hydroelectric power plant, or maybe about some new military aid on the eve of the counteroffensive, what did you hear , yes, maria, they definitely talked about ukraine, it was one of the key foreign
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policy issues that were discussed at the bilateral meeting here in the white house as for some specifics that, say , the ukrainian audience expected regarding the conclusions of the kakhovsky hydroelectric power plant disaster or news about training or missions in the 16th unfortunately, we did not hear this, but what was interesting about this press conference? first , president biden was asked about the ukrainian counteroffensive, which he said that he would not comment on how it is progressing, but he said that he was sure that the united states and its allies had done everything it is possible for the ukrainians to be effective and he said that he is optimistic and also we heard from the two leaders and from president biden and from prime minister suk immediately at the beginning of their press conference they thanked each other for supporting ukraine and said that they are sure that this strong support is not only from the united states and great britain, but from 50 countries that are currently participating in military
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aid to ukraine, this support will continue. let's listen to what they said at the beginning. today we also discussed our unwavering support of the people of ukraine, who are defending themselves from russia's more brutal aggression, great britain and the united states, together with more than 50 partners , have pledged to provide ukraine with security assistance at a historic level, i want to thank the prime minister for his strong leadership, which did not provide a significant amount of assistance in the field of security and training of the ukrainian troops so that they could effectively use the equipment and ammunition that they jointly provided. and our allies on j7 demonstrating powerful unity great britain is proud of its contribution in particular to the provision of tanks long-range radio freedom and training of ukrainian soldiers
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but let no one doubt the leadership and us resources are a decisive contribution, and here maria has a very interesting moment. president biden was asked if he was sure that military aid from the united states would continue, and they specifically asked if congress would provide additional funding . when the time comes for that, president biden said he was sure. that aid funding for ukraine will continue despite the fact that certain critical voices are heard saying that it is not known how much ukraine should be supported and how ukraine should be supported. he said that everyone understands what is at stake and what putin would not stop ukraine in kyiv and that is why it is very important to continue this aid and he is sure that it will be so, and the other sunenok from his side said that there is a theme of containment , he says that president putin is looking at the fact that the support of partners , the support of the west and he said it is impossible to allow this, and support for ukraine must continue not only months in advance, but also years in advance. thank you yulia, these are very important statements , i want to ask you one more question, we
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know that the nato summit will be held in july and maybe the leaders discussed what they are ready to offer to ukraine during this summit or maybe they talked about who will be the next or the next head of the alliance regarding ukraine maria has not yet shed much light on what they are ready to offer ukraine what is the joint position of the united states of great britain and other nato countries, but regarding the next gen. canada, it was a very interesting moment because they expected that the star sumakh would talk to president biden about the candidacy of great britain, specifically about ben vulis, the minister of defense of the united kingdom, who is very well known in ukraine because he supports ukraine very much. and journalists asked president biden whether it was not time for the new nato champion to be a briton again for the first time in 20 years, and president biden said it was possible, and he also said that for this we need the consensus of all nato countries and he said that this issue will be discussed, he said that great britain has
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a very good candidate, therefore, in fact, this makes us think a little bit that in fact ben volys' stakes in this race for who will be the next nato secretary general are rising. thank you, yulia, for the crack that yulia yarmolenko from the white house told us in washington, meanwhile, in the american congress, they do not believe russia's statements regarding the undermining of the kakhovka dam . lawmakers from both parties spoke with with words of support for ukraine and called to bring to justice those responsible for the destruction of the kakhova hpp . ecological disaster and russia the cruel aggressor of this war, it is russia that bears the ultimate responsibility for the destruction of ukrainian infrastructure and the displacement of communities that lived in the territories downstream from the dam , the statement
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said. does not believe russia's statements about its non-involvement in the disaster and reminded that russia lied about almost every one of the thousands of crimes it committed in ukraine, the attack on the kakhov dam and even deliberate negligence that could lead to its failure would correspond to putin's game, the manager in ukraine emphasized, 2,339 people, including 120 children, have already been evacuated from the flooded territories of the kherson region , the first train arrived in khmelnytskyi with people who were forced to leave their homes not only because of constant russian shelling, but also because the flooding of the city and the region, several suitcases of the emigrants contained everything that could be saved from the water, the evacuees
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were met in detail. a flooded floor at the explosion of the kakhova hydroelectric power plant, water arrives every second, the displaced people say this is in the village, there is still such spiritual preparation left in my house, it is scary , then the flooded left bank well , the russian shelling is still firing, people say that they do not stop even during the evacuation , boats are sailing through the streets, i have such areas that flooded the roof, boats are swimming, people are swimming , dogs and cats are swimming, and they immediately shoot in kherson , she stayed until the last when the city began to flood, she decided to leave
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, her husband and pets survived the occupation do you understand what is more of a pity for the children? the husband is left with a cat and a dog. he says i will take the wagons. as they say in kherson, i will put the dog, put the cat and put it somewhere in several suitcases. we have a cat and her name is luna, she is a member of our family, but many animals remain in danger." these are some freaks, well, it's scary, the water
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is approaching, we don't know what's going on with us, i'm afraid, will we have light, will we have water between do you understand that there is something very scary going on in khmelnytskyi? rescuers meet displaced people. everyone experiences this trouble in their own way, but when they come to us here, we help them as much as possible so that they feel protected. we meet them , help move things, our psychologists communicate with people. in order to help them, more than dozens of displaced persons who arrived by evocation train from kherson will be placed in the horodotsk community in the region, about 2,000 places have been prepared for the resettlement of the evacuated population
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but at the same time, taking into account the completion of the educational process , about 10,000 places, in case of such a need, we can deploy, despite the massive flooding, the people of kherson do not want to evacuate. it is difficult to find the words to describe what people in the kherson region are currently living at the same time this week , the general prosecutor of ukraine, andriy kostyan, informed the prosecutor about the explosion of the kakhova hpp dam by russian forces of the international criminal court, kari mukhanov, since the beginning of russia's full-scale war against ukraine, the prosecutor general's office has recorded almost 90,000 war crimes , but how does the prosecutor's office investigate the undermining of the dam and other crimes committed by the russian military? my colleague oleksiy kovalenko spoke with the first deputy prosecutor general of ukraine oleksiy khomenko, the representative of ukraine at the un, yesterday declared that the blowing up of the kakhovka hpp is an act of state nazism on the part of russia, and the prosecutor general of ukraine andriy kostin has already
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appealed to the international criminal court with a request to investigate this as a war crime as the ukrainian general prosecutor's office classifies this war crime and how do you see prosecution for it definitely er-er the office of the prosecutor general classifies er-er and er-er this crime as a war crime at the moment we do not have there is no doubt that it was done by the russian troops, because any expert , military expert, any military officer will tell you that such a monumental concrete structure cannot be destroyed except from the middle, and ukraine does not even have such a weapon that could use such weapons and cause such consequences, moreover, the russian troops have repeatedly stated that the kakhovskaya hpp itself
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was mined by them, therefore, without any success on the battlefield, fearing our countermeasures , the russians defiantly blew up this the building is currently undergoing investigative actions , their conduct is definitely complicated by the fact that the procedural management of the prosecutor general's office complicates the fact that the crime or in the temporarily occupied territory of the international criminal court has previously issued a warrant for the arrest of vladimir putin in the case of the illegal deportation of children, do you think that this crime and the blowing up of the kakhova hydroelectric power plant could be another case for which the leadership of russia will appear before the international criminal court? of course, during the investigation of this criminal proceeding , all the necessary actions in order to establish, as i have already mentioned, the organizer of this given crime, definitely behind any
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crime of aggression that we are currently investigating is the commander-in-chief of the russian federation, however, at the moment, it is only the beginning of the pre-trial investigation, so it is difficult for me to comment on this. usually, this has a perspective. currently, the ukrainian prosecutor general's office has already recorded almost 90,000 war crimes committed by russian soldiers on the territory of ukraine. do you expect that during the upcoming counter-attack and the liberation of ukrainian territories, uh, this number will increase significantly, unfortunately, it is inevitable, unfortunately, we experience the experience of the deoccupation of kyiv region, the experience of the deoccupation of the partial deoccupation of kherson region
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oblasts before the occupation of kharkiv, chernihiv , sumy oblasts testify to the fact that crimes are increasing geometrically after the deoccupation. ecotivities that were massively manifested in kyiv region, kharkiv region, e.e., in kherson region, chernihiv region, mass shootings, mass deportation of children. therefore, it is simply inevitable, unfortunately , recently it was discovered that russia is compensating for the accuracy of your missiles and their number to inflict maximum damage and maximum damage, can you tell us what the results of the investigation of such attacks of strikes on civilian infrastructure objects, e-e informs enough , the most active phase began
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after the russian federation realized that the successes on the battlefield in they don’t have them they don’t have them at the moment such shelling continues uh-e was the most massive last uh-uh weekend uh-uh there was the most massive shelling in kyiv using uavs at the moment uh an investigation into these facts, for each fact of striking civilian objects, such as residential buildings, many apartment buildings, as well as a certain relevant infrastructure object, such as energy- generating enterprises , criminal proceedings are carried out, another important the topic that i would like to raise is the fight against corruption in the ukrainian government, it is in the light of the recent case and investigation against the former chairman of the supreme court knyazev
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, it is obvious that this topic is also raised in communication with partners, as it turns out to convince that the fight against corruption is successful, how to convince western partners to continue providing economic and military aid to ukraine. i think that the main messenger and the main point of the fact that there is a systematic fight against corruption in ukraine is that, as you yourself just named, the last name of a well-known person in ukraine does not have the so-called casting of untouchables. if earlier it was possible and western partners told us about the system of corruption, now everyone is talking about the systemic fight against corruption, and everyone and organizational legislative measures and also administrative measures that are currently taking place in ukraine testify to this , as you saw, the head of the specialized anti-corruption
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prosecutor's office was appointed at first, with all his independent powers, and the completely transparent competition for the head of the national anti-corruption bureau ended recently. the supreme council of justice has worked . the verkhovna rada should do it now, and since it reacted promptly to the same case that you mentioned, this indicates precisely the zero territory of tolerance for corruption in ukraine, among other news, the lawmakers of the senate committee on international relations supported the resolution condemning the deportation of ukrainian children to russia, my colleague kateryna lisonova followed these hearings and she is with us now in direct contact with the congress. katya. greetings, please
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tell me in more detail what this resolution is about, how the voting took place and what is the position of legislators in the committee regarding this initiative, the resolution for which today in the senate committee on international relations it calls to condemn the illegal deportation and abduction of ukrainian children by the russian federation, in addition to the fact that even more importantly, this resolution says that such actions of russia are genocide against the ukrainian people against their identity language and in general against the ukrainian nation for the senators of the republic and democracy with whom they communicated emphasized that they support the fact that this is genocide against the ukrainian people and also they believe that they will be bored there, the americans should do everything so that ukraine wins the whole war for this resolution in the committee voted unanimously , that is, at
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least that is what the senators told me after the vote . just part of what putin is doing regarding the brutal repression in ukraine kidnapping children from ukrainian families and taking them to russia as a father i can't even imagine the pain which causes parents to realize that they may never see their children again and this is one of the reasons why we as the united states must continue to support ukraine and make sure that they win and be able to return the children to their parents, i think that's why we need full responsibility, we held hearings on this occasion in the helsinki commission as well as the senate committee on international relations. i also introduced a bill on the establishment of an international tribunal under the auspices
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of the united nations in general. in my opinion, this is part of the strategy russia under the leadership of putin to carry out genocide in ukraine is a terrible situation and any nation that participates in such a mass abduction of children is truly a war crime and we must speak out we must persistently do everything possible to return these children to their families maria also ahead of this resolution , when should you expect a vote for it in the congress and what can be the practical impact on ukraine's support for the future of this resolution, then the vote of your committee paves the way for this document on the vote is already in the senate, then in the house of representatives, which gives a chance for the results of this to be voted on. in general, it should be noted in the congress that this document does not require the signature of biden, the president of the united states of america , because, unlike the bill , the resolution does not require any steps from the executive branch of power, that is, in fact, if its
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next congress, this means that we only have an agreed position of american legislators regarding what exactly russia is doing in ukraine and what directly american legislators condemn the abduction of ukrainian children and their deportation to russia, and also consider it a genocide. at the same time, regarding the practical impact, as you asked, the senator with whom i spoke noted that if such a vote is passed through georgia in the house of representatives and in the senate, it will further help to condemn the russian federation and russians who committed war crimes in ukraine and will actually help support the case against russia in gas, in short , you also know that today they were supposed to consider the initiative to recognize wagner's mercenaries as terrorists organization, is there any news about it, it did not pass the committee, but it was not blocked , in fact, the senator said that people, their colleagues, in particular, from among us, the republican grand paul
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, had questions about the text of the resolution, and in fact they moved it to consider the text of the i apologize to the revolution bill to revise the text of this the bill and most likely it will be brought up for a vote in the committee again at the end of this month and exactly before the fourth of july, when the independence day of the united states of america will be , we should expect that this before that and give that this this draft law will again be submitted to the committee, and the non-stop znadra with whom i spoke say that they expect it to actually pass further consideration in this committee. thank you very much, katya, we will follow this initiative further. well, finally, let's talk about the conflict within the russian forces, why did the split between wagnerites and regular russian troops, as well as how this will affect the capabilities of the russians on the battlefield . iryna shinkarenko, my colleague, asked
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the experts about this in more detail in her story you made auto pvk wagner's last drunkenness why did you do it because of personal enmity a place in the war how can your actions be characterized guilty this video published by yevgeny prizozhin last sunday shows personal enmity among the russian military in the war a man who calls himself russian is gaining momentum in the footage lieutenant colonel roman venevitin admits that when he was drunk he ordered to shoot at a car with fighters of the wagner group, for this the handsome head of a private company threatened him with investigative actions, now the same a man who calls himself the former commander of the 72nd brigade recorded a new video in which he claims that he recorded the previous video under the torture of the wagnerites.
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shoot the president of the center for military analytics, the jamestown foundation, glen howard , assesses the situation inside russia cautiously , but says prigozhina's latest video may indicate interesting processes in russia as far as i have heard that everyone is planning to run for president, does it not prevent others from running for office as well as rumors about patrushev - i find the statements very interesting and shocking - this is a new report about the capture of a russian colonel who tried to kill the wagnerites, this is interesting. i do not know what this means in the whole scheme of russian military strategy and within the country , however, this does not apply to gerasimov. gerasimov was not visible anywhere in this. therefore, the russian general staff continues to play an active role in planning and strategy, but i think that this
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interlude in a kind of comedy, it's a bit of theater to watch channel one, it's very interesting to listen to what's being said on tv because everyone blames each other, i wouldn't say that it 's on the verge of a civil war in russia, but it's very interesting, so we continue to watch the video with representatives of the ministry of defense allegedly captured by the lieutenant colonel russia did not comment. but this is only one of the internal scandals of the last part of the day. we used to accuse the personnel of the russian military that they allegedly blocked the roads on the order of the ministry of defense the retreat of his fighters from bakhmut, an expert at the center for the analysis of european politics in washington, ben dubow, says that all these controversies are shaking russia's capabilities on the front lines. gerasimov's challenge to olga and other military leaders of the ministry of defense in such a way that it was still impossible to imagine this may be characteristic of prigozhin and his
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peculiar tendency to attention, but you you can potentially see other leaders who seek attention create a lot of chaos and a lot of problems for the coordination of the efforts of the russian military prigozhin ultra-defense of russia sergei shoigu and the head of the russian general staff valery gerasimov in the us state department believe that the reason for everything is the failure of the kremlin's goals in ukraine what can i tell you about mr. prigozhin so it is that sometimes he tells the truth sometimes he exaggerates things and i think this reflects the difficulties that russia has faced in achieving its goals russians have achieved their goals in ukraine with every day it becomes more and more obvious and they all criticize each other for not achieving their goals in the study of war, they say that currently the wagnerians have mostly retreated to the rear and do not take part in active hostilities , but their criticism affects the
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mood of the russian military. we see that the ukrainians are able to achieve significant success day after day around bakhmut on the northern and southern flanks, and this is largely because there is a lack of coordination between those troops, wagner acted in his own interests wagner's interest was to capture the city and prove to putin that they succeeded, and after that it didn't matter to them. such a lack of coordination and cooperation between irregular formations seems to also affect morale . -th brigade, if you are in the 72nd brigade, then it is unlikely that you will go to work with the wagnerites and you will hardly wish them well, and taking into account prigozhin's previous statements about other regular formations, you can probably estimate that the cohesion between units on the territory of a not so high point so that they could go to a specific defensive position at the institute of war studies predicts that prigozhyn will not succeed in trying to regain leverage for a reason, the other day he announced the readiness of the wagnerites to defend the belgorod region if things
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get worse there, most likely he is trying to find a new niche for himself so that his everyone remembered that the russian information space bet on prigozhin, just as the kremlin bet on prigozhin, both for bakhmut, and now he needs to define a new plot for himself where he will be able to maintain his expediency, but also considering how depleted his forces are at the moment, i think that it is possible that he will be able to restore his forces, but also perhaps he is trying to establish certain conditions for activities in the border areas of russia sent their troops to belgorod already offered and the head of chechnya, ramzan kadyrov , who criticizes the wagnerites at the institute for the study of war and says that many russian leaders are pursuing their own goals in the war, and the kremlin's task of seizing ukraine has taken a back seat for them iryna shynkarenko maria ulyanovska kostyantyn golobchyk dmytro savchuk voice of america really appreciated such interesting events in russia iryna shinkarenko helped us on this we will say goodbye you
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the fate of this girl for almost a month nothing unfortunately, the details of her disappearance are unknown , as well as deception. yulia lived in the city of chernivtsi on may 6 on saturday morning. now no one knows, but the search for her is actively ongoing, the police are doing everything possible to find even a small clue, they are looking for the child not only in chernivtsi, but also throughout the region, i am constantly communicating with the local police about yulia taranuschenko, they have directed the entire personnel to look for the girl as well the police officer assured me that they interviewed all relatives, friends, acquaintances of the girl who may have some useful information that will help in the further development of the search for the child, any clue is important, of course not it is certain that the missing girl is now in the territory of the chernivtsi
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