[000:00:00;00] it was previously reported in the mass media about this, maybe they wanted to achieve this, but you know, the destruction of the dam is a rather thankless thing. it is likely that they washed away their line of defense, they did not calculate anything. well, whether they wanted to do it this way or in another way, it is difficult to say, but it is certain that they aimed to stop the ukrainian troops that were already on the left bank, well, this is the only reason that could force them to do this, so there will be no result for them at all, that is, they tried well this do you think this was the main idea to stop the ukrainian offensive of the ukrainian troops? well, right up to such hysteria. well, in principle , i also think so. i think that they thought that they

would be able to take some such limited actions to stop them. well, there may be actions of the ukrainian troops on the islands. something like that, but as a result, they made more of a disaster than they wanted. and now they got worse for themselves because, first, they lowered the water level in the kakhov reservoir and in the end deprived the crimea of ​​water forever, technical water and these are returns, and secondly, by draining the kakhov reservoir, they returned the dnieper to the channel it was in before 1955. that is, it is no longer 9 km, but it is much smaller . ferries can be built there. there was enough somewhere there, the place was there before and needs a little water

to save and dry up, in this way they caused damage not only to the environment, let's say, but to their own military affairs, if they wanted to achieve some kind of military result, then they did the exact opposite, they shot themselves in the leg well, if it wasn't always for you, not from their own actions , so that they don't do. they always uh, they do something on the contrary, but in this case , the same thing, that is, they increased aid to ukraine showed that they well, as they say in our country, well, a little bit short-sighted, very dangerous for of the whole world, not only for ukraine, but also from a military point of view, they deprived of logistical routes. from a certain point of view, and secondly, they actually opened up to the ukrainian armed forces, not immediately, in the course of two months

, the former channel that was under kakhovsky will dry up reservoir and this will give an opportunity already make crossings there for the demilitarization of the forces of ukraine, that is, i think that ours will plan er crossings there too, that is , i will use this moment for the benefit of the armed forces of ukraine . that they didn't achieve anything and it only makes it worse for them because you know these two months they can safely well, it seems to me to remove the troops from the defense of this section and transfer them to where they are waiting, well, under the same ugledar , for example. could this be the purpose of this

history, i am not sure that they will be able to pick up the troops that sank there, the equipment that they sunk there , because they acted somehow spontaneously, they did not withdraw their equipment, they gave it away they did not know the new flooding zone, they did not understand how large-scale this flooding they actually destroyed their equipment on our retreats as they collected their personnel on boats and removed the reserve. we also saw it, that is, not everything is going well with them, in this case i think they will leave the personnel there on the south of the kherson region, who was there because they understand very well that the back water will recede there in two weeks and the dnipro will enter its channel as it was, no matter how long they

did n't try to stop there, they will be. relate to possible emergency situations, including on the dams of ukraine, so i am sure that everything will be a little different there as they plan and they did not have the necessary qualifications to do what they did, so they can stop our armed forces of ukraine in this case as much as possible roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada's committee on national defense and colonel of the sbu , roman kostenko, joined us in this direction for 2 weeks. you see that the russians did not get any benefits from the fact that they blew up the dam of the kakhov reservoir, but do you really think that the russians, well, let's say

they destroyed their first line there, because well, in for example, i have the impression that they were preparing for this fact in our country, that is, that they withdrew some of their troops from there , that they withdrew their equipment at least. well, i didn't hear much about what you are talking about, but i will give a specific answer to your question that i think i am right now in kherson , we are watching what is happening here and now the main thing is what is being said, let's say trying to save the people who remained on those islands between the right and left banks, and this is a very difficult situation, because there are trees with roots floating there, houses, cars, there are even boats there, many more mines that were torn away from

that shore, which have now been completely closed. fear and fish as far as the russians are concerned, did they know, well, look, i work here, i work with the guys directly on, well, let’s say yes , the destruction of their equipment on that side, and recently we really saw, we didn’t know then just what is this to do with the fact that they retreated to some distance, they suffered heavy losses and retreated their and their equipment for a certain number of kilometers there, tens of kilometers before that , they were closer. we thought this because they indicate losses. we see that they are digging in other places and we were surprised that they have a front line completely dug in and they are digging in other higher places, well, we understand that they were preparing , including that, and we really don't have equipment there, we don't see a lot of equipment that something has flooded they took her away plus we saw signals, including through interception when e there a day or two before the dam was blown up they said there they did not notify that if there would be a dam blow-up when they said

we are following the commander we are following the water level we are following the water level well so that by surprise they did not turn out to be in a flooding situation, they were just warned in this way, which benefits, well, they are temporary, for sure, the water has drunk up very much now, and the distance between theirs has increased a lot, we caused them very heavy artillery losses there andronami plus was destroyed, again, the military invented it, not a humanitarian one, there is no destroyed, the only connection between the right and left bank of the dnieper is the moloko-kakhiv dam, which was practically from kherson to e . it was theoretically and it was to whom it was more threatened by the enemy to attack really he she did not have the strength of the means he is capable theoretically or if we could capture theoretically we talked about it and for example

through her to accumulate the means already there by force that's why they mined, they understand that there is a problem, that's why there are some temporary benefits, of course they are, but in general , i think we will understand the consequences then. and the river will become even higher than it was, but then after that we will only be able to draw conclusions. to let go thank you and p roman to you eh, then you may have seen a message from eh, they wrote that as if eh, the armed forces of ukraine were preparing a special operation to seize the kakhovskaya hpp in order to prevent the russians from blowing it up, that's exactly how it was formulated in the bill

and e in this way, as if the armed forces wanted to prevent the washing away of their pontoon crossings , which they were planning to send across the dnipro, and the detonation for 1-2 weeks will make it difficult to create crossings, because it is not clear what is happening there, and in this way the flanks of the russians are now protected from the armed forces, just evaluate this plan to what extent it is fantastic not fantastic you have already started talking about it a little bit about it that it seems that the armed forces of ukraine were preparing to capture the dam well we actually understood how it would end we knew that it was mined if it could lead to a disaster there if storming there alone is not right some wrong actions, and in fact a man-made disaster that we cannot allow to happen on our land to the russians , we see everything exactly, that's why i heard such a thing, but i have no confirmation that such information is really true i will say yes, i know a lot, but they work here, and it’s literally from there, how many 50 km away are there? such operations cannot remain

unplaced. i have no information that such an operation was really being prepared there, roman . and tell me how likely it is that the russians will now have such an opportunity to shoot. part of the forces from this particular kherson direction and will transfer them somewhere else , that is , have they really protected themselves from possible ukrainian actions in this place? small units, they don't have that many units, uh, not so much, let's say not such a large number, so that they can maneuver there a lot, maybe some number they can transfer, but it's as if there are a lot of them on some flank or not , it will greatly affect some part of the functions of the front i don't think so , to be honest

, that's why it's hard to say now that they will maneuver, that's what i said at the beginning. when the water will rise. when everything calms down, when the sun will be effective , i saw that the water rises, how the terrain of the area changed after that, where it became possible, for example, here now the water will rise and there in lviv, if you choose before, the highest section of the dnipro there was 280 m. the enemy understands that he will be put there, for example, on the contrary, it will be necessary to transfer troops here in order to hold this area, and perhaps , on the contrary, the dnieper will break like this and it will not go to the sea, and we will have dozens there kilometers to the fuel swamp, it becomes an area that in fact will not be possible there in any way. well, to overcome it, of course. and there it may be necessary less than a year ago. i think the consequences will be shown in a few weeks . in the future in this direction well, we see what kind of humanitarian

consequences for the ukrainian part of kherson, it caused not only for kherson mykolaiv to touch kryvyi rih where the water problems started a-a but how do you see how well from what you can see from that you will find out how the russians feel that from well, several towns from their side were flooded. well, from the side that they control at all, is this humanitarian disaster problematic for the russians at all, or do they just ignore it? well, just like they ignore it in belgorod. because they were very happy there somewhere with excitement that we washed the dill we washed the dill and then once we understood the situation and didn't say turn on the water either. i.e. they warned there, they told some people there. monitor the water level, but the specifics were not told whether they went to storm the islands that are located

between the right and left bank of the dnieper. at that moment, they stormed. our defense forces repelled their assault. code and they understood, they somehow started to leave there because they realized that they were being flooded by their own, well, by detonation, they didn't say anything about it , they said to carry out combat tasks, what kind of reaction could the russians have? now they have gone there to safe places. as far as i know, they practically do not evacuate the local population. the local population itself is being evacuated. where can they just watch it? well, i also saw these reports that even our authorities are evacuating people from the other side of kherson because nothing happens there, the russians don't do anything from that side , that's normal and i think that the biggest in general , you know, such cynicism is to hit people during the evacuation, so when they just started bombing during the evacuation, it's just on the head

don't mind, say something like that again. what do you think about how - if we talk about it further - i understand that now it is very difficult to understand all the consequences. for the protection of crimea, for the russians, uh, it can change the situation in some way, or , well, it doesn’t matter, how do you assess the catastrophes of the russians, who came there to uh, save ukraine from the nationalists, let’s say, and destroyed it completely in fact left bank and here of the countryside, the economy, once again, people, it is the people of fate, killed many people, and then if we say that they always have some kind of pragmatic planning, they destroyed the agricultural component. here in the south, it was very large, especially

right on the lokakhov hydroelectric dam - it was there as a secondary one. yes, what produced electricity is the main thing - it is, after all, a reservoir that provided irrigation here, such a zone is risky agriculture, we will be farming, that's why it was provided and now , in fact, it was all destroyed further crimea about which they shouted all the time that they were there in the minsk agreements or had some kind of agreement with us in order to pay for water, but they still haven't destroyed any plans at all about e-e water to crimea about those people they call their own and yet that's why i show them cynically once again that for the sake of their plans they will pay no heed to their own people not to other people's even more so the reality is that they have destroyed ecology destroyed, let's say, damaged

our peninsula e crimea and quite badly the left bank in general, now we need to localize the consequences that exist and then see how we can restore it all later, mr. roman , and here we go a little further there . do you think that this dam blowup is somehow in a position to influence the course of hostilities in that thread? that is, what kind of fate does this direction look like? see if the dam blowup is just the dam blowup as an ecological catastrophe i doubt it because well, well, only in the sense that if there are really large spills and it should be possible for me to transfer some troops there or, let's say, we won't be able to force it, then of course, against it, he won't be able to release some part of the crimean troops

or from this direction and transfer them there, that's it. what i think can be affected. of course, if it is different, then it should be on the contrary that they will have to transfer it here so that we will not be able to develop this direction. if some areas are opened now where we can force calmly and make bridgeheads, for example, in this sense but i think that the main directions for the mood will still be in other cities where there is no dnieper and where there are no rivers . e-e russia about how they destroyed the leopard, which turned out to be seed drills and harvesters , tell me if, in principle, the leopards reached the front. because they destroyed them. they had time. but did they have time to reach the phone? you ask if they reached the front of the leopards, just curious.

i don't have any information about their direct participation in the battle, but what they will say to the readiness. this i know. in the brigades that are preparing for the offensive, you see the offensive and that's why it's growing. did they set up this detonation of the dam, after all, it's not possible, they did it. i'm in such a panic. well, as i asked, it didn't happen. it was simple, i'll say it all the more because i was in my house at night . we slept when the child was acting. the world with such don't clash against you fight you fight as if i already understood every day what you do there you shoot there you run there you plan and here a dam is blown up and you switch let's say so from military operations to humanitarian those rescue this russia n

psychological operation informational psychological well, what did they want a combined form here it is necessary to figure out why, first of all, they really decided to close all the roads, including the new kakhov dam , including, for example, to divert attention from the counterattack by using these roads to try to stop our counteroffensive in the future, they will destroy what i said, our other hydroelectric power plants, which are there, they lubricated before this, i already said that in the winter , thermal power plants, we all remember our thermal generation with missile strikes, and now they can begin to destroy hydrogeneration in order to completely deprive us of energy, well, that is, there is also an increase , perhaps then we will at least understand why there is an increase in the rockets, they pretended everything, probably , most likely, it should be considered as a single such complex

, the destruction of our distant bodies. well, no only distant ones, but you are the elevator. that's right. that's how we have to understand the thermal power plant. they destroyed and damaged it, and badly, if from the thermal power plant and without, let's say, hydro, our nuclear power plant will be completely unable to provide. and our green energy sector will not be able to fully cover all those needs, let's say. we have a resident there in the south in kherson , and that is why he told us in such sufficient detail about what is happening, how exactly it happened, i have discounts on bionorm 10% in pharmacies, traveller, bam and

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program verdict my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all, the third day - the largest man-made disaster in europe, the russians' detonation of the kakhova hydroelectric power station has already led to the flooding of dozens of villages and settlements in the kherson region, the consequences of this ecocide arranged by the russian occupiers are obviously already going to be felt very much as soon as the world itself, zelenskyi visited the kherson region today, meanwhile , the bunker grandfather continues to blame the ukrainian side for everything, and the russians have already turned to the un international court of justice for that to bring the ukrainians to justice for the destruction of the kakhova dam, although in fact most representatives of the western world are inclined to believe that the russians, who occupied part of the ukrainian land, are to blame for the destruction of the kakhova hpp. so far, there is no reaction from

greenpeace, the red cross and the pope. and it seems that they will remain silent for a long time until russia will allow itself to blackmail the whole world by destroying hydroelectric power plants, seizing nuclear power plants, and also by rhetoric that both sides of the conflict should sit down the negotiating table, unfortunately, the world is sitting on a powder keg, smoking cigarettes, belomorkanal e shakes the ashes into this powder keg and hopes that all this will not affect them. 12,760 people in just the last day

, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 880 orks with the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost 3,891 tanks, 7,576 armored fighting vehicles, 3,668 artillery systems, 595 multiple rocket launcher systems, 355 weapons in ukraine of air defense 314 aircraft 299 helicopters 6384 units of automotive equipment 18 ships of boats 1171 cruise missiles 3234 drones 511 special equipment so zelensky in kherson oblast putin fell to the bottom the world is tarred on a powder keg we will talk about this and other things for the next hour with our guests today under at the time of inclusion from washington we will see a joint press conference of the president of the united states of america joseph biden and the prime minister

of great britain rishi sunak but it will a little later in half an hour, for now i introduce today's first guest, this is volodymyr tsibulko, political expert mr. volodymyr i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our broadcast greetings beautiful audience espresso let's start mr. volodymyr with the man-made disaster arranged by the russian occupiers in the south today volodymyr zelenskyi visited the kherson region visited there, saw how medical facilities work and how flood victims are received, one of these evacuation points was visited by the head of state zelensky talked with local residents who are being treated there, he promised that the government will help in the future with the reconstruction of everything that was destroyed by the russians as a result of the terrorist attack. in addition, he talked

with doctors who, even under shelling , continue to help people. we understood all your signals and received them. i think that we will definitely help with this. well, we are very grateful to you for your great work in heroic people immediately after the visit to zelenskyi kherson the occupiers shelled the ship square of the city. when the actual evacuation of civilians was going on, the ministry of internal affairs reported that 8 people had been injured

. earlier , the prosecutor's office reported on the death, but the police did not confirm the information. in the eyes of the whole world, and the world has not yet reacted harshly to what putin is doing in the kherson region. what do you think, why? considering how the world reacted to the full-scale invasion russia and ukraine, and it was only a few months after buchi, that the world finally began to come to its senses and understand what the occupier is doing. in fact, the scope of this catastrophe is still unclear to the world community and unfortunately, during these days , the ukrainian e-e media and ukrainian factors did not