[000:00:00;00] how often are the children who have returned, how do they return through which routes, in what way, what happened so that they were able to return , in fact, the return of our children is a very delicate topic and ukraine is currently returning thanks to cooperation with non-governmental international and ukrainian public organizations. we must understand what the principle and norms of international law , unfortunately , there is no procedure for the exchange of civilians for civilians, there is only the procedure for the exchange of military personnel for military personnel, to date , only 371 children have been returned, and in general

number if we are talking about the information of 19,000 deported children , and in fact it is even more, it is quite small, unfortunately, the international red cross does not fulfill its direct obligations and does not help ukraine regarding the return of children. support but today it remains a big problem because once again we call on our international partners to join forces because in reality it is difficult to return the children as it happens and all the children who managed to return them. they have parents or legal guardians and these parents applied either to the shoemaker's office or to the children of war portal and accordingly could provide information on their whereabouts. if you look, most of

them are still teenagers or children, well , young people. yes, because look, young children, they can't , unfortunately, report their whereabouts, and i won't disclose the return process , because it can actually have a bad effect on further actions, but we must understand that this it is very difficult because it is a very delicate process and today the children are returned thanks to cooperation with public organizations and charitable foundations and caring people e p well, it can help to return ukrainian children who are in the territory of the russian federation or in belarus or in the territory of the occupied autonomous republic of crimea e-e it can be someone who understood, saw a group of children, roughly speaking understands that the parents are not around, eyewitnesses can be deported

children from ukraine and then he can go somewhere to report of course if he is not afraid, he is brave, he is not afraid of the consequences of such a report if he is not followed by who who are those people, how can they act , in fact, it can be any, any person who became aware of the stay of ukrainian children in the territory of the russian federation through the republics of belarus, moreover, it is very important , as i have already said, that children are constantly being moved, especially when it comes to taring, where they are together, the staff of these camps, uh, neighbors who can see further, these camps can see are these children arrived, they can report it can be again on the chatbots of children of war or the national information bureau , that is, any information about the stay of ukrainian children is very important because the first and main task that the ukrainian state must fulfill is that of ukrainian children and their identification therefore that the children mostly did not have any documents with them, or these documents

are birth certificates , there are no photos. that is, it is very important for us to talk about establishing the whereabouts of ukrainian children and their identification. talk with the official authorities of the russian federation through the appropriate channels or create with volunteers who can come and pick up or take parents there because it is also important that volunteers do not just pick up children themselves, more often than not, they do not help parents or laws to go and pick them up because it is expensive and it's dangerous eh well, actually yes it's a little scary for parents too help pick up the children and pick them up there in some way, provide humanitarian aid and so on, but for the most part, at this stage, almost 15 months after the war, we still say that the priority is the search , that is, any information about the whereabouts of ukrainian children is very important and it is worth notifying the ukrainian state or

public organizations if it is scary to notify the ukrainian state of course. who may not know. let us give you this information on the topic of the international day for the protection of children. president volodymyr zelenskyy opened a center for the protection of children 's rights . committing crimes to implement the program of action brunkidzbek.ua will unite their efforts. authorities, foreign governments and international organizations, according to official data , it has already been possible to return more than 370 children, let's we will hear from you frankly. i wish to bring all

the children back, bring the children back . as long as they are not alone, one of the points of the development plan, bring kids backubik.ua, mentions the development of family forms of education. whose parents have died or gone missing will, for example, be taken under the care of their families explain please explain please ms. iryna ms. iryna yes the question is for sure. the development of family forms of education. the main thing is that the children who are corrected are returned to ukraine and who may not be with their parents at this moment, but the parents are alive, children who need a new family. the main thing is that such children do not end up in a boarding school, and the state should help such children, what is a patient family is when

what is a foster family when a child has parents. but maybe they are in those circumstances. maybe they are in the occupied territory when they cannot be together, that is, the child can be up to six months in to a family-type foster family and receive a certain amount of love and care in the first half of the year, later the situation may improve because this child does not have the status of an orphan, she has relatives, and then the child will move from the foster family to his parents or to his relatives, also these are family-type houses these are the small houses where the family takes care of children

who have lost their parents . in ukraine, this process is long enough, and such children need attention and support, because when the child returns to ukraine from deportation, he cannot stay where he should be, he cannot be in the hospital , and it will be bad when he is in a boarding school, because such a child needs family comfort needs psychological attention and support needs possible rehabilitation treatment needs attention from the country and also from ukrainians ms. alyona, how do you see this path ? to do in order to adapt her in order for her to be able to live through everything

that happened to her and realize that she is finally in her homeland, it is very important to talk about the fact that the ukrainian state aims to return children, their rehabilitation, reintegration, this is stated by everyone from the president to the authorized representative of issues of human rights and this is very important because this is a reference point vector when we studied the needs of children who return , first of all the talk was about the fact that the child must first be examined, identified and carried out medical examination because often the children report that they were in very inadequate conditions on the territory of the russian federation, it is necessary to talk about the establishment and the parents, if we do not know where they are, it can often be more true that these are the children of those soldiers who are currently in captivity, so here it is very it is important to talk precisely about settling in a family, understanding how we make documents with a hammer, because if this is an adult child, more or less an adult, yes , a child who is older than 14 years old, she needs

to issue a passport in order to in the future the state also provided other forms of support, it is also very important to talk about certain forms of humanitarian aid for placement if it is a child returning with a family from the occupied territory. it is important that the state provide places for temporary residence for such a family and support. well, in general, i want to say that we currently have from a child who suffered as a result of the war, but this status is not internally complemented by specific guarantees, it is very important that the legislators fill this status and the government actually guarantees the provision of both the status and the appropriate assistance support for those children who suffered as a result of war or deportation is one of the crimes. so we are talking about six such serious violations of the rights of the child in the conditions of armed conflict, and all these violations and all children who became victims of these violations should be

covered by guarantees of assistance from the state and adoptive parents and against those who made the decision about their deportation. is this really the next step? as soon as these children stabilize, they will return to their families or guardians . human rights defenders, lawyers, and investigators will work with them. it is true. defenders will work in the center for the protection of children's rights. we have already talked about the fact that qualified specialists will work there who will be able to delicately talk with the child and develop a further plan of action, and the center for the protection of children's rights will coordinate further assistance in families . in those territorial communities where the children will be located, and i also wanted to say that according to the legislation, yes, the children who

suffered as a result of the heavy war, the terrible war in russian, really need increased social and legal protection and currently, this bill is registered in the verkhovna rada, which i now hope that the deputies in the hall support it, and it is the children of war, children who lost their parents, children who were maimed or injured, and children who were deported or forcibly removed , all these children need a guarantee from the state in accordance with the law therefore, it is precisely in this draft law that a system of measures and actions is proposed for such children. who needs reintegration, treatment, support, financial

assistance, and this will be a system of measures that will be provided to children and children who suffered as a result of the war, as well as a one-time monetary aid for damage to life and health that will be collected from the country of the aggressor in accordance with the norms and principles of international law. need attention and support, they will have social and legal protection by law, and we hope for that in ukraine too. thank you for helping to understand . the topic is extremely important . i will definitely devote more than one broadcast to iryna borzova chairman of the subcommittee on state youth policy of the verkhovna rada committee on youth and sports thank you for joining us, we continue to talk with ms. alyona . will

work only there they accepted the child conditionally worked with human rights defenders worked with lawyers let go forgot this center he will keep the child for a few more months or maybe even years correct i hope so it will be at least it was said that it will not be only children who will be deported as a result, it will relate to other violations of children's rights in the conditions of war . very quickly solve the issue of the first weeks of her stay there or the first week so put her somewhere in the hospital quickly conduct an examination, the documents will still be longer, continue to follow up with this child, in addition, we are still talking about the need to rehabilitate such children, and we don’t really have such systems at the moment. that is, it

needs to be developed because it is not very clear how to work with indoctrinated children. okay , the child was in the russian federation or belarus for three weeks or a month, and if these are children from the occupied territories. you will recall that before the start of the large-scale armed aggression , the russians deported some of the children from the closed institutions of their own residential territories, which were occupied, even though not luhansk region, to russian territory, let's imagine that we will return these children and how we will work with them, it must be a very systematic work that will take into account this element of serious propaganda of the militarization of children, all these lessons are important and so on, it must be taken into account, as far as i know, such programs are currently being developed , but so far, they have not been implemented, so it is very important to take this into account, ladies, but how important will it be here, how much she has thoroughly

, well, actually, when i spoke about rehabilitation , first of all, it is the work of a psychologist unfortunately, i am not a psychologist. i am a lawyer by profession, so it is difficult for me to say what the specific elements should be, but for sure from what we see. since we have been working with the occupied territories for a long time and we see that the russian federation is the methods with which they used in the occupied territories the territories of crimea or donetsk region of the luhansk region were transferred to the territories that were occupied after the beginning of large-scale armed aggression, we understand what russia is doing to our children, to those who remained in the occupation, those whom they deported to the territory of russia, therefore very it is important to take into account this element of induction, which gives an effort to re-educate ukrainian children, and indeed rehabilitation should include a massive element of psychological rehabilitation, but also, for some , physical rehabilitation as well .

in more than 40 cities of the world, 24 countries, not in particular, held demonstrations there. as part of the global company say ukrainian children , the participants of the action demanded that of the democratic world to condemn the russian crimes of genocide in ukraine , in particular deportation, kidnapping, rape and murder of children, also urged to sign a petition on the exclusion of the aggressor country from the un at the beginning of a full-scale war, russia illegally deported, we remind again more than 19,000 minors a-a, we regularly see information published there about the exchange of our prisoners of war there contributes to this, we remember that turkey contributed to the children for some reason. as far as i understand the truth , but those who managed to return them significantly less, first of all, tell us about the red cross, it was mentioned here, and it was mentioned in the wrong way, that it does not do the work it should do with the return and return of deported ukrainian children, yes, that's why , please tell us what kind of support we need,

that is, this there should be some kind of separate, possible process, which will be led by a specific country that has relations with, well, like a grain agreement , that is, we chose turkey as a mediator because it has a certain opportunity to talk with putin , and it also did not enter into a harsh confrontation well, in any case, he supports ukraine, that is, maybe we need some kind of international format where there will be a specific responsible person, some representative of some country who will be a mediator between ukraine and russia in the matter of returning children, and this is the kind of mechanism needed we need a country mediator another issue we face is the exact identification of the location of the children because the russian side says ok, we are ready to return the children to you, give us all the lists at the same time, your own obligations in accordance with the geneva convention, they usually do not comply, and

they do not give us the lists of children whom they deported or evacuated with their position, i.e. we have such a situation where we as a state often have information that the child was taken out, but since ukraine is not present on the territory of the russian federation due to the through the consuls , it is very difficult for us to establish where these children are at the moment, because as soon as we establish it, the children are moved, so it is important for us to speak this formula where there will be a foreign element, there will be a foreign country which will be a mediator, it is not necessary. by the way, the country can be an international organization that is ready to take on the functions of mediation and talk with the russian side, yes, because we should also not forget about those who work on the territory of the russian federation, and this is a children's background tone , because yes indeed, the return of deported people, children, in particular, is the mandate of the international committee of the red cross, but at the same time, children are also the mandate of the united nations, so we can turn to various international

organizations, but we must have a very clear the picture regarding that idea and about where these children are, plus the russian side also raises these questions regarding the return of the children to where we talked a little earlier about the forms of care for the horse - it is very important for us to do this homework to prepare those families who will be ready to take them in children, children, sons from the occupied territories, orphans from the territories that were under occupation after the beginning of large-scale armed aggression. that is, we in ukraine have some homework to do before applying to international partners, but we can start negotiations now, because the international processes are so very yes, but in parallel , do what we have to do at the level of our state. it's good that we voiced it right at the end of our conversation. thank you, ms. alyona , for getting involved in such a way alyona lunyova the advocacy director of the center for human rights, the change joined our broadcast, they talked about how we will return the ukrainian children kidnapped by russia , who are received there. although russia exaggerates

this number in order to justify it, but yes they talk about the supposedly saved thousands and hundreds of thousands, they call it saved thousands and hundreds of thousands, of course, we have to pay attention to this, but keep a cool head and a warm heart when we return our children. against the background of the ongoing war , some industries are also gradually recovering , adapting to the constant missile attacks in hostilities, etc. and, in particular, the labor market has also been able to gradually adapt the number of vacancies offered by employers is still far from the pre-war period. but every month the number of offers is increasing , according to the work.ua job search service, and the number of vacancies in ukraine has increased

fivefold in a year, the competition for work is decreasing , and employers are facing a shortage of qualified personnel according to the information of the state station and telecommunications in the field of health care in the mining industry in the field of finance and insurance in the processing industry in the transport field in the construction industry tetyana pashkina expert in of the labor market joins our broadcast. tetiana, we welcome you. thank you for being with us. good afternoon, before we start talking about the prospects that the labor market currently offers for ukrainians, about what specialties are currently most in demand, what is needed as soon as possible. well, here is your attention, why to begin with, let's characterize the problems, that is, it's really not the first time i've heard such a thesis that uh, there are really vacancies in such

fields where you usually need a specialty where you need a higher education and so on. now there are more of them than the specialists themselves among the fact that there are many people professionals, they left ukraine , is it really true, or is it possible to observe the dynamics of the return of these people? well, first of all, not only did they leave, if we are talking about women, if we are talking about men, then somewhere around a million people are now involved in the defense of our country, and the dynamics something about the return and how is the labor market changing in general , i mean about the vacancies, that is, uh, now, uh, we talked about the fact that we have not yet reached the pre-war level, however, the positive dynamics and what is this connected with firstly, positive dynamics is related to the fact that in march of last year on employment sites such as work.ua

there were from four to 11 thousand vacancies at the beginning of the month or at the end of the month at the end of the year on employment sites there were somewhere 55-60,000 pence due to the fact that the market was artificially limited due to blackouts and other problems with development, currently we have 9, 82, 85 on one site you are somewhere around 75-80 on another employment site a-a in february last year at the beginning there were 100-115 vacancies the market has come close enough to the pre-war level state, we cannot say this about the candidate market because, according to the un, somewhere around 12,000,000,000 have left and 5,000,000 have returned . they say that from five to seven are there in the last quarter, 600,000 more left

than returned, so it is probably not worth talking about positive dynamics. we have some waves of return, for example, mothers returned in the fall of last year because they had to go back to study, there are certain hopes that this will happen in the summer, but most people who stay abroad say that they will return when it will be safe and the war will end, therefore it is probably not worth counting on the fact that we will have great candidates for some reason, let's talk about those who will return and what we can bring them back to later. and now, uh , can you name the areas where the most vacancies are offered the field at the moment it is not surprising that the labor market has not changed globally , neither during the war , sales and trade specialists still do such consultants, sales managers and their varieties continue to actively hire specialists

in the field of production, which admin personnel logistics and so on and so on, that is, how our tourists and vindicators fell there, and what was accompanying them, so it lies, and everything that rose is like that. it slowly rises. to a certain extent, there are mobilized or there is internal displacement . if this is the case, because of this , there are not enough drivers and fitters and installers, there were dumplings, welders , anyone, if we talk about women's professions , our light industry always needs seamstresses, cutters, etc. and with whom we also have serious problems, therefore, there were always not many vacancies, and now there were not many applicants, and now

, absolutely, please, you can name in percentages, if not in the number of vacancies, then at least the percentages of several that are lacking in these areas that you mentioned, it is difficult to say due to the fact that many manufacturers do not use official, for example , employment sites, but submit ads, for example , to the local press, and they do not always use the services of the state employment service, so this above-water part is always visible in it is extremely difficult to say the percentages, mrs. tetyana. if we talk about the fact that the school year is ending now, the school year has already ended, and the introductory company is still advancing and we understand that it is probably too late to reorient our viewers. however, if we talk about the further development in general what are the specialties that you need to pay attention to now in order to? well, if everything moves the way it is moving now in order to definitely be in demand on the labor market, what

do you think is a strange thing, but again, there is nothing here it does not change, as the state would not increase the state order, for example, for engineering specialists, it workers, and accordingly , for applicants from their parents, this is an opportunity to get into a profession that is needed and also for free, and the budget money will still go to lawyers, managers, economists and marketers in order to compete later as much as possible for each of the vacancies available on the labor market, so i can say that, for example, on the european world market , professional fields are already in great demand among specialists, such as automotive, such as engineering such as the american university and then it-fer in our country, for example, everything is the opposite, everyone really wants

to go to it further. we may have research , further, we may have other fields. if we are talking about the company, we should not talk about the graduates now, but about those who two years ago and now, accordingly, are in the ninth grade trying to choose subjects for the test in order to choose a major later. and many choose humanitarian subjects and do not choose there in physics in order not to join technical specialties a they are the ones who will feed us great years, and you, as an expert on the labor market, what advice do you have for such graduates, applicants, future students , what majors to choose at the moment, what will be promising, look, there are professions that are always in demand, not

always profitable, yes. specialists will be able to find employment all their lives, yes. and this is a job that really always needs you. there are always vacancies, not always monetary ones , and again, we are talking about the fact that it is, despite a certain composition, still be in leaders and for the attractiveness of the salary as the most pear-shaped. let's put it this way, on the fourth night in ukraine, the inter team continues its work live. i, liliya nalyagaka, will present an emergency news release in the rivne region. our air defense forces were working, the sounds of explosions were also heard by the residents of zhytomyr region and lviv region. we ask you maintain informational silence, do not film or publish anything so as not to disturb our defenders, the air alert is still ongoing throughout ukraine, in particular due to the