[000:00:00;00] we will get answers, so the question is how to figure it out sportsmen of september that on friday at 21:15 for espresso we continue to talk about the consequences of blowing up the kakhova hpp and the consequences of the great water, which sooner or later will recede, but we will feel it for a long time to come with us yuliya marchel, head of the board of let's do it ukraine, coordinator of the international humanitarian project let's do it ukraine sos and coordinator of the world clean update in ukraine yulia congratulations to you glory to ukraine , the environment and the south of ukraine, the undermining of kakhovskaya hydroelectric power plant, let's start, in your opinion, can it change the climate in general, not only in the south, but maybe in our country as a whole, maybe even on the european continent. currently, the impression

is that only ukraine understands the consequences, the world reacts to me like a weakling. let's talk a little later. well, in fact, the climate will completely change because we have parts of the territory that will be swamped where the water will remain and it will not go away. there is a part of the territory that will be drained and it's like a minimum of a desert will appear because of this, there will be an increase in temperature. and our river system is actually changing, and it will also be felt in the climate. our system is completely destroyed. in fact , the llc system has been destroyed, and the fields that gave us food, that is, which ones were used to grow food, and this is also can affect because there are not only many territories where the water was and will leave, but many territories will feel uh-uh exactly that which were adjacent and this applies to kherson

, mykolaiv, uh, zaporizhzhia, donetsk , odesa region, that is, and maybe even higher there is kirovohrad or cherkasy oblast, so in a few days we will already know slowly what we are dealing with a little more clearly, but the whole problem is that we can make a fixation and at least somehow collect information on the de-occupied territory , many territories remain under occupation this is what makes it impossible, firstly, to fix and eliminate the consequences, and secondly, it is really very dangerous now, even on our territory from the side of ukraine over the occupied one, because there are neither volunteers nor executive authorities there is no access to local self-government now, in fact, it is normal to work with this, no country in the world has bothered because when an ecological disaster occurs , all the world communities immediately go to the place and

the liquidation begins in connection with the lack of, well, the security situation in ukraine, something is a hot line of the front, in fact this makes it impossible to even work quickly and effectively with the international community, but it definitely affects the climate, because if there are changes in some territory, the whole world feels the environment, there are no borders, the president volodymyr zelenskyi of ukraine addressed more than 30 world eco-activists, opinion leaders of international experts regarding the consequences of the destruction of the kakhovka hpp dam. well, among the participants of the meeting, which took place via video link, was the swedish eco-activist greta tumberg, as well as the vice-speaker of the european parliament heidi a-a hautali , ex-president ireland's mary robinson , as well as activists and journalists covering environmental issues in general. well, if we talk about greta, she expressed sympathy

for the ukrainians and said that there is a lack of words to describe that what happened besides that, the eco-activist activist asked what can be done to help ukraine and increase the pressure on the relevant organizations. later , she wrote on twitter that leukocytes were committed by russia and it is an atrocity. the country of the terrorist must answer for all her crimes yulia please tell me and what does it mean and what we can get the attention of such well-known prominent eco-activists , and through them it is possible to reach authoritative and responsible international organizations that are still not fully using their functionality. i'm not talking exclusively about some eco-organizations , but well, the united nations organization can work if desired. and even in hot spots and the red cross, the international committee is not very visible now in the kherson region on the right bank of the word, there are many questions for them but will it be possible through ecoactivists attract attention well, i want to tell you that a disaster caught me in

brussels. i immediately had a conversation with the president of the european parliament, roberto i. matsova, and it seems to me that it is the world political community of people who make people's decisions which allocate funds, yes , yes, this can affect only superficially, only superficially , because everyone is waiting for numbers, everyone is waiting, everyone is waiting for an understanding. er, the remains of houses, er, animal corpses, water with chemicals and it is completely polluted. yes, i think that europe will hear it in a few days already, when the wave will come to the mediterranean sea and enter the world ocean. can be because today no one can give an adequate assessment , again due to the fact that part of the territory is occupied and

international organizations, so far, we see that there is something wrong that they want to do very quickly, but we definitely have the information that we have today 600 m² are already flooded, 50,000 hectares of forest , the main part of the young forests that were planted in this region, which are now standing in the water, they will die. is dying in fact, the entire natural world is underwater, yes, because there is not enough, that is, oxygen does not get to the water, we now have an ecological disaster and it can already form a sanitary disaster, because ah, about a million people actually do not have access to clean water right now, this is concerns a-a many regions, not only kherson regions, again in the disaster zone actually actively uh , we now have kherson regions

, mykolayiv odesa, zaporizhzhia, donetsk, and other regions will feel the consequences only yes which already exist well, here i want to appeal to the citizens because first of all it is always liquidation liquidation evacuation is the first thing we have to do this evacuation and people citizens want to appeal to everyone to everyone please do not drink the water, it must be boiled at least for 30 minutes you can't go to it, as you can see now, they show us men, uh, without gloves, without any protective equipment, they have contact with water, it's polluted, it's poisonous , you can't let this water get into any morning because it's a big danger, so i'm calling all volunteers, as they say, prepare properly, have the appropriate vaccinations, have the appropriate first-aid kits, today, but they add, ukraine will publish recommendations from doctors on its resources, but these recommendations will be effective, as they say, for the first week, because the information will be

updated from then on, and all people who are in the zone in the regions, as i said , do not drink even water from a well, but only boil it first and then use it, and this applies even to wash that it is our skin through the skin, it will also get in. therefore, it is not important now that volunteers and people are not in the risk zone and evacuate a little, as they say, and do not interfere with the ministry of emergencies, do not interfere with the military, do not interfere with the liquidator's work, but because, first of all, this is life, and then of course we will unite. and now, by the way, i just had a conversation with the deputy minister of the environment who said that there is drinking water in the kherson part , but the mykolaiv region needs water, so if this is the case today day volunteers, please contact the mykolaiv region because they do not have clean drinking water and there is an urgent need for water, that is why in any case i want

to call on all volunteers to communicate with the local executive bodies of local self-government special headquarters that are coordinated and can definitely to say what, where to take where, what is the need . well, don't expose yourself to danger , only come to those places where it is as safe as possible, because kherson region is currently being shelled completely and our lives and health are in danger, can there be another question, is it possible to help ukraine with money now to eliminate at least some mass of those consequences, maybe the world should think about some kind of powerful fundraising already in its own interests, because well lord, there are so many worries about the climate of the entire planet and the world, and i think that this story with the kakhov hpp should resonate with the politicians of different countries, etc. and so on . can we determine how much money may

be needed simply for localization or for normalization at some level of the situation, look, there has never been such a man-made, economic, ecological disaster, and a full-scale war from above . yes, there was no such thing in one place, so how much money will be needed, i can only count, for example, now from myself, because in order to collect, fix, clean yes, everything that is going on there will need volunteers for this, we will need the right equipment, the right suits, the right first-aid kits, the right, well, for this we will need organizational food and the like, yes, that is it's not about 10 volunteers, it's not about a thousand volunteers - 600 km² of actually polluted territory in the disaster zone, and that's why each organization will collect funds according to its specifics. so it's the same at

the national level, because if we collected today yesterday, all the boats in the country were actually bought out, so tomorrow there will be new fees, and it is also very important that people check the information so as not to fall into the trap, because, for example, they blow ukraine collects to the official account of the organization, we do not we collect on the cards, and we also report from the official account of the organization in order to be able to centrally make a plus , so that there are no fraudsters, because well, it happens that people who want to help do not check the organization, they do not check the person, and then it all happens somewhere because e- it seems to me that over the past year we have learned to work systematically. and of course money, every penny will now be important for every organization because, for example, we are going to the kherson region on the sunday of our mission, our canvas it is being prepared, well, it is about half a million hryvnias, we have already spent exclusively on the equipment of the boat and fuel

. this is how it will be next, that is, in addition to what we carry inside, and purchases that we do inside, what is needed food, hygiene, animal feed, this is first of all , next, of course specifications for the ministry of emergency situations and for everyone, that is, boats, pumps and pumps and everything else, so here you have to look , check, you have to ask. and really connect to those funds , to those organizations that work professionally so that there is no chaos, so that there is no such thing yesterday there was a very big danger because too many people came who just wanted to take a video and for that they actually violated the security part for the ministry of emergency situations for the military and well, it shouldn't be, everything should be fried but every penny is important that 's why we invite everyone to donate donate because ecological disaster is our life with you

, health and ours with you well, here is the number of years that we will simply drag on. project, but it seems that ukraine souls and the coordinator of world cleanup day in ukraine, it is actually difficult to even imagine how long we will rake out the consequences of the cynical undermining by the russians of the kakhovka hpp dam of the kakhovka hpp, not only the dam, but also the hall machine, accordingly, with all the turbines , generators, a huge number of only water, but also very toxic substances are now actually in ukrainian cities , flooding ukrainian cities. i really hope that you heard our speaker and will be as careful as possible if you join help to the local population in the kherson region or if you are residents of our southern regions you need this help, take care of your own safety at least as much as it is usual it is possible in these conditions well, we will talk about another

challenge of the shallowing of the kakhov reservoir and actually the point of no return it is probably correct to say so. the fact is that , according to information from experts, it is already impossible to withdraw water from the kakhovsky reservoir into those reservoirs that are not specifically intended for cooling from the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant as i understand it, fortunately, it is in a cold reserve mode, it does not work in terms of the fact that the reactors do not perform their work, but even keeping it in a cold reserve requires certain er certain benefits of civilization, and for this you need electricity, of course , you need quality personnel for this, and of course , you need water for this, let's understand all these details now, contact us mark zhelezniak, a scientist at the institute

of environmental radioactivity, foku of siv university and liquidator of the chernobyl accident, mr. marko . congratulations. glory to ukraine , we lead the glory. greetings from japan. the water level in the kakhov reservoir has crossed the dead point. 7, what is the dead point , please tell me in a little more detail what exactly this level of water in the kakhov reservoir means. water is released, it spills onto the floor and floods the floor. these two problems are the first problem - this is flooding below the current, and

the second problem is what will happen to this bath with this water and questions . we scientists are dealing with these problems. there is a problem, we don't know the size of the holes for sure, we only see someone else here, i'm on the surface, we're going to sit and demonstrate , but uh, we're analyzing the results, how the water level is changing, uh, the first drop is in the city of nikopol, there's only one service, there's a post in in kherson, there is also an increase in the water level, and we are developing models, we are using models, we are calculating the inundation zones, which is the maximum inundation, which has already occurred , and half of it has already been

completed . it was somewhere around 14-12 cm-1, then it fell on the second day until 7:00 a.m., now it will stably reach 4-5 cm per hour, what else does this lead to, what is the water level in this bath, first of all , we are not the first question, how big are the dams which is completely destroyed, if it explodes, it is laid, of course, not from above, but the russian occupiers laid the national one on the fish itself. and judging by our calculations, as they fall, everything there is completely destroyed to the very bottom, moreover, the ticket of water that is now going there the consumption of water is colossal. there is a maximum of 30,000 cubic meters per second. so it is higher than the high flood that was registered on

the dnieper near kyiv in the 30th year, where it still washed away because this is the size of this work, but no one even at the end is in ukraine they don't know exactly the dimensions of everything, if they don't want the situation, which is completely visible from the rationing of the reservoir completely well, what will happen, the river will return, the old year is coming, the dnieper riverbed will actually be such a swampy plain and there will be an old rivulet well, how will all the songs of the historical veliky lug be affected, as they say, the historical veliky lug lug, but all those will be buildings, all types of fences, with everything, the length

of the reservoir is more than 200 km, and the city of nikopol manganets, all of them are all related to this catchment of this water, that is, it is related to the discharge of the water intake, everything will be lost, and first of all, the type of water intake to the north crimean canal is lost, which does not really concern the ukrainians, but we also lose the water intake to the kakhovsky canal there, which is to be occupied from the territory of skadovsk, the most suffering lands , they lose completely, we irrigate the main purpose of creating this of kapustskyi and storage - it was already electricity. there is not a very powerful plant there, and above all, it is a reservoir for irrigation. i wish it was lost, now let’s move on to what worries you most of all, it’s the situation with

uh, uh, view sampling, uh, from near the station, yes, at the station, there are six very powerful units , the largest station in europe , the cooling was carried out. thus, there are reservoirs that the cooler is very close, practically on the bank of kakhovsky they were similar to the explosion , and there are also so-called blasting systems to enhance cooling, and two such large towers and cooling towers have been built that also cool. i mean, the power of the entire system is enough for when all these six of course, when the reactors are not working, they no longer produce energy, it is necessary to take into account much less, and fortunately, we now have exactly this situation, because the risks have now decreased significantly, because the characteristics are not working, five reactors are in a cold state , one or hot currents, so they don't need that much water eh to cool the activists they all

worked moreover even when they all work there is no continuous exchange of water between the eh evaporating cooler and the deep reservoir it is clear that the water is evaporating which 9 filtration through new shores is dialed there, but somewhere there, after some period there, let’s say the sea, a month, where there is water pumping for a few weeks. where the water pumping will converge to get the same level. now, before that, everything that happened was the highest level possible. water-we drive coolers. therefore, we have a supply of water, how much for how long will this be enough, taking into account all the factors listed above, in order for the zaporizhia nuclear power plant to continue to remain in this calm and cold

you said to the majority of your regime in two raktors in a hot footing yes and 1 + 1 well, here is the question. we are engaged in 26 tasks , but with colleagues from kyiv from my and here at the former kyiv, what systems are the tools of service by metallurgical institutes, we are also engaged in official security, but in all calculations with them , we are our colleagues. intervenes and it is what it is, then we have a reserve well, let's say a few months after the fokus accident, there was such a situation that a survey was conducted throughout the entire system of all practical power plants, and then a solution was proposed for

the alternative consumption of hellish kicks in that among them are artesian wells that can be used and therefore, if the situation is normal, then even with such a run that it happened only due to natural reasons, modern mud would be critical if he allowed us to come to the military and allowed us to do it the truth here is where our people work, who lyrically support safe security, they can do it if they are not respected , and the factor is such a factor of that stupidity and what they did on kakhovka, what we will do, no one knows, that's why i can't tell you, but what if we agree that if nothing like this happens, then in such an intervention, it will be several months, and even without any additional measures, everything will be more uneasy, and further, if

there are measures, they will be taken on the spot , of course, we hope for the ukrainian offensive of the army and we really hope for him, mr. marko. i am one of those people who prefers to prepare for the worst so that when something pleasant happens, it will be really pleasant if you see if the occupiers do not do what you just said and do not give our specialists to do, and the defense forces of ukraine will not be able to return control of the zaporozhye nuclear power plant to this moment , we have literally one minute, what can happen and is it important that i am now in the cold mode of this conservation or whether the consequences potential accident to be a little smaller, please, briefly, the picture will not be precisely because everything is excluded and the risk zones are the place of energodar and the place of nikopol, which is very close at a distance of 15 km to another storage, there is no need

to panic and no, there is no great risk for other areas of ukraine, it's more of them, very briefly, thank you for your expert assessment of the situation. it was mark zheleznyak, a scientist at the institute of environmental radioactivity of focus university , liquidator of the chernobyl accident, and we have to understand that our experts and our scientists are doing everything possible to eliminate the consequences of the russian war crime . my name is khrystyna yatskiv. thank you for being with me during this morning broadcast . yourself with sharp pain, you need help, the knee brace moves easily, a reliable assistant for the joints, order right now with a discount of only uah 199, it will fix tightly

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