[000:00:00;00] er threats here russia if er resorted to a nuclear scenario but without the use of er tactical nuclear ammunition and therefore they er carefully monitor the reaction of the world public of governments and so on and every step depending on this reaction in the future, they will verify in what way it is worth acting. well, obviously, at a certain stage, they realized that it is possible to go to er , raise the rates and increase er, the degree of tension er, and actually start this algorithm er- e actions on strategic damage

and this is aimed primarily at us in ukraine, but also at our western partners so that they review their approaches there, say, regarding aid to ukraine, and we see that again in the next day they turned to invite ukraine to nato vacancies which ones not to invite, which weapons to provide, which ones not to provide, and so on and so on and so on, and so on, there are publications about what is needed , they say, one way or another, it is necessary to incline the parties to negotiations, so they say, uh, what a problem , the parties did not go well somehow there they communicate, they have to talk, maybe they will eventually come to an agreement. therefore, all of this is as if such a comprehensive use of the power of the means that are currently being carried out with russia in order to achieve a certain strategic

advantage at a time when they cannot achieve such an advantage during the almost 15 months on the battlefield, but there are two more such components, which also seem to be included in this concept of the russian federation, because there were mentions of the mining of the crimean titan plant, which also creates environmental threats, and so yesterday there was a message from the main intelligence agency that, in fact, russia is preparing for a terrorist attack on main gas pipelines, but already on the territory of the russian federation there is a lowering pressure and thus creating certain risks there in order to later accuse ukraine of exactly such actions, this is also included in the concept of to shake the unity of europe in relation to ukraine is absolutely normal, and in principle , this is also a scenario that was not invented today

, sam, he just lay there and waited for his time, because it really is not necessary to do it there some autumn actions on the territory of ukraine to blow up gas pipelines, but it is possible to successfully do this on your own territory, pass this off as a technical incident, they say, especially since now there is essentially one tour, one wire, one single one working in the direction of the country. they used to work several directions along which russian gas went through ukraine in transit to the countries of the european union, now it is practically one route. so, if in a proper manner they can say that this is an old gas pipeline, the report has already been demolished and they say that something happened there. well, and all this in

in the best case and as a rule, they can build a ukrainian subversive group, they say, that penetrated there and blew it up directly, well , in this way, it is also like a mechanism of a disk on the european partners of ukraine regarding the reduction of support or the review of support for ukraine in general sanctions policy, and in this regard, of course , there is no such thing as it would be voluntary without quotation marks , the europeans from russia cannot count on this, because there may still be some illusions, but in reality everything looks in a completely different way, therefore, you need to be prepared for this scenario, but actually speaking here, if the situation was also completely predicted, it is only a matter of time when they will not be ready to take this step, especially since the historical precedents were how they did it the most vivid this is the supply of oil to lithuania

in 2006, when, according to the kremlin, the lithuanian government incorrectly privatized an oil refinery not for the benefit of a russian company, but for the benefit of a polish company, and therefore suddenly on the territory of russia in the area many times mentioned in someone where the oil transfer station of the druzhba system is located, suddenly there was an accident . well, after the elimination of the consequences of which, the russians said that it is impossible to restore the supply of oil to lithuania due to this, the pipeline is impossible there, there is a huge number of worn areas of damage and so on, but for some reason it is on the territory of belarus, because through belarus, where the transit to lithuania was transiting to lithuania, they resumed the supply of oil when the lithuanians said, “why

not renew it? and it won't last until you. well, that's the end of it, and the transit was not updated because these are such hybrid mechanisms, they were not developed for a long time, and now they will be used in the same way, and there is no need to have any illusions that russia will somehow adhere to some contractual obligations with our european partners, and in this case we act simply as a transit link, and we provide this transit not because we have, so to speak, not so long ago that we have a naftogaz contract with e-e gazprom there and because what was done to the end of the car are our partners who support us, but we are definitely asking the question, what should

be done with this, because, for example , a decision was made about oil paints. last year, it was implemented. exactly until now, but it has not even come close to the practical plane, just all the things that have happened show that if we do not resort to strict economic isolation of russia, and in fact, it will not stop, as we can see in the example sanctions that created problems for russia and they halved its oil and gas revenues there, but this reduction is halved compared to the record level of 22nd year, that is, actually, the sanctions brought down the profitability of russian oil and gas exports there, well, it is equal to the 21st year, and this is quite enough for russia to continue waging war

, therefore, including these methods , which are essentially a hybrid method of strategic defeat of ukraine without the use of weapons of mass destruction, and therefore, if for that so that the child has that scenario of the zaporizhzhia nuclear plant, which has already been worked out by them, we need the most stringent actions on the part of our western partners, because you can of course see there that this, this, uh, the dnieper is overflowing, that they cover a certain region there, maybe even it is further there eh- even if there is some man-made accident on the crimean titan , something else toxic will spill there into sivash azov there and so on and get into the black sea well, but they say these are local consequences and in the case of kryvyi an accident with the release of radioactivity

the consequences will be far from local, they will have, depending on the degree of the level of the incident, consequences of a european nature , that is why these things should now be on the table of our consultations and negotiations with the western partners, which we must stimulate to preventive actions because reactive actions, even if they are quite so serious, they do not stop the aggressor, what’s more, they actually simulate him to further dangerous steps, dangerous only for ukraine, but for europe, mr. mykhailo, thank you very much for your professional explanations for your comments, for your inclusion, and i will remind our viewers that the stress channel is on the air because mykhailo gonchar, president of the global studies center , strategy 21, petriv kakhovsky hpp is actually one of a number of crimes, what is the act

of the russian federation and its army, and how exactly is the evidence base against the aggressor going to be gathered, we will talk in the second part of our program , after a short advertisement, we will have the next guest - this is oleksandr ruvin, director of the kyiv research institute of forensic expertise of the ministry of justice of ukraine, but this is after the advertisement for proctozan neo 10% in pharmacies traveller, you and oschad, pain can become an obstacle when walking up the stairs, not with my knees from knee pain. try dolgit cream, it relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves joint mobility. you can also walk, the only yellow cream for joint pain. andriy kapral, the sensual voice of the piccardian tertiary

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on weekdays at 8:00 p.m. repeat at 12:10 continues our broadcast and as we promised, there will be a conversation with oleksandr ruvin, director of the kyiv scientific research institute of forensic examinations of the ministry of justice of ukraine, let me remind you that this structure is actually a state institution that is responsible for military examinations of the consequences of enemy action, and this evidence base is extremely important in order to legally and competently assess everything from the point of view of in view of further court cases that will be presented to the aggressor, how exactly does this happen, what examinations are carried out by military experts , what are the difficulties, we will talk about this with our next guest - this is oleksandr rovin p

oleksandr, i congratulate you. good afternoon. what are the main directions of your experts' work now, and does the situation with the kakhov hpp in particular fall within the area of ​​responsibility of your experts? well, at the moment, i am the director of the kyiv scientific research institute of forensic expertise and we assigned precisely the functions of carrying out e-e, in particular, military expertise or also expertise of missile and artillery weapons, we have the only unit that is directly engaged in conducting military expertise in our expert units and institutions so far there are a lot of units, a large one, there are many highly qualified and experienced specialists working in the specified field of research, and we conduct these examinations with the aim of determining the grounds for conducting investigative actions and pre-trial investigations of war crimes

committed in the armed aggressors of the russian federation, in particular, at the moment , almost all the actions that were carried out or are being carried out by the military units of the armed forces of the russian federation, we are the ones who investigate the actions of commanders and leaders commanders of e-e armed forces of the armed forces of russia as regards your question about the kakhov hpp directly. yes, we are conducting, we started conducting the specified examinations at the time we are at the stage of collecting relevant evidence , materials, videos, photos, we are currently studying all the projects on which the said hpp was built by our specialists all

possible reasons for the destruction, in particular , mine explosions, the impact of other weapons , in particular rocket artillery, or the conditions for the deliberate withdrawal of the specified hpp from exploitation and creation of this ecological disaster that has happened so far, that is, you are now collecting the evidence base, evaluating all possible options that could have caused the destruction of the kakhova hpp dam so directly, and are your experts now in this area or are they trying to get evidence as close as possible to the site of the disaster? the objects are located not far from this zone, we are conducting appropriate expert examinations, and not everywhere we can get to , but we are studying everything that can give us

the opportunity to objectively substantiate analysis of physical evidence and prepare a reasonable basis for conducting a pre-trial investigation and making accusations of those actions that were taken for the purpose of this ecological disaster kyiv and these conclusions made by your experts they will then be recognized by the world community, they are certified conclusions, well, besides the fact that we are a judicial expert institution of the state, what is the definition according to the relevant legislative acts, and our institute has the appropriate accreditation in the system of forensic experts institutions of europe and the world and our conclusions are accepted by all the law enforcement agencies of the world as well as the courts well, you can draw an analogy with this boeing 777h17 well

, you know the malaysian malaysian airlines is a boeing 737 registry 752 that will hit in those geraniums and well, other cases and uh, our uh, expert opinions that are accepted unconditionally by all law enforcement agencies and courts of european countries, in particular, the international criminal court, with which we have been working very fruitfully for the preparation of the evidence base crimes committed by the armed forces of russia, you mentioned that your specialists will examine every lock of a russian missile or a russian drone that fell on ukrainian soil, you are gathering evidence . but sometimes your specialists, in principle, draw conclusions that are very interesting from the point of view of even the military tactics of using the enemy's weapons, you, your experts , discovered for the first time that russia uses these

missiles with nuclear-boron simulators , they discovered that the kha-101 missile passed there the stage of improvement, that is, your experts make conclusions that are, in principle, very necessary for our military. how do you interact with the defense departments? why exactly are these assessments made by your experts and not by experts from the ministry of defense? well, the fact is that we work very closely with them, we exchange information they are with us. we are with them, er, we have the same. here are such highly qualified , experienced specialists who have served for a long time in the military er, armed forces of ukraine, and they have been in the military in the past, as far as we are concerned. we receive physical evidence that cannot be received right away. given that this is evidence that is recovered at the scene of accidents , it is the first to reach us, but we necessarily involve specialists from the scientific research

institute of the central research institute of the armed forces of ukraine and other specialists of the armed forces who help us and we share our relevant knowledge and experience and conclusions with them so that decisions can be made quickly regarding the work of the e-e air forces e-e units of electronic warfare with the aim of timely shooting down the unmanned aerial vehicles of missiles specified there, that is, we have absolutely mutual assistance and mutual exchange of information with specialists of the armed forces of ukraine. and were there cases when your conclusions and assessments did not coincide with the conclusions of the military regarding this or that sample or tactic of use. well, there was almost none. we have um. well

, since we have the opportunity to personally hold uh, if we have the specified physical evidence in our hands, we do not always match uh information, but we come to the same conclusion. we communicate, we argue, er , so that these conclusions and these our er , if the studies corresponded to reality. eh, because they are military, they are very similar, but eh, we could distinguish what it is based on the remains of material evidence, but mostly we have a complete mutual understanding and we only help dearly, an interagency eh coordination group of our specialists has been created

of the armed forces of ukraine, the prosecutor general's office, we exchange information, our specialists go to the places of adventures together, that's why i think that we have almost no disputes there, when you mentioned the h 400 nuclear power plant of the dprk, that is, as i understand it, it is about strikes on the capital where are the remains, including the s400 e, which we have not mentioned so far , although this is, in principle, a separate direction of the threat, which is the ukrainian air force, they also have to take into account the fighters of the russian attacks. 48 missiles, they are used as already in the modernized ss300 complexes. well, mainly s403u, so we have a lot of work together with specialists of the ministry of defense and other agencies

. link here we are just studying all these special cases with the aim of ensuring a very correct and er really er air defense of our air forces . they are trying to figure out samples of russian weapons, were there any interest from foreign countries in particular? well, the combat part of the same uh, downed dagger, well , the interests of experts from other countries. there is probably electrical evidence of our criminal proceedings, we share our experience with them , we take information from them, something is working, we in the fruitful constant interaction with the experts of the international criminal court, we transfer to them all our evidence that we find

, descriptions, conclusions, and it is very easy and pleasant for us to work with them that we work as if we were on the same fire, we understand half a word here, and that's why i think that this uh-uh provides help both to us from them and to them from us because the world feels that this threat can affect not only ukraine but other countries, so they are very pleased with we communicate together, study er. moreover, we have the ability to er prevent russia from obtaining precisely those parts that make up unmanned er aircraft and missiles that are both winged and ballistic that fall on the territory of ukraine , and this provides opportunity e-e as other countries and ukraine, in particular, to prevent russia from providing these spare parts or components from which these are being assembled

over the years, that is, in fact, your institute or experts in cooperation with the ministry of defense are conducting a full e-e development of punctuation, let's say , these samples of weapons that are in a more or less suitable condition it is possible to identify the country of origin and then the things about which the nsdc declares that there are components of european countries , this is precisely based on the activities of specialists of your institute . as for the change, you know, we found only one thing, we gave it to our colleagues, and we handed it over to our bodies, eh, there have already been modernized shahids, which have other eh components from other countries, and so we study and cover, we help to cover exactly those channels of obtaining the corresponding components, which from which are then collected just like those deadly

types of weapons that fall into the territory of ukraine , that's why i think that our work, our conclusions , they are very valid and necessary for our country, oleksandr, tell me more more details about such areas of activity of your institute as identification of ukrainian military personnel who were captured or carrying out dna analyzes to determine the dead persons, this is as well as understood . well , we have one more area of ​​activity of specialists of your institute. uh, you know, for the first time we were approached by some relatives, parents, acquaintances, colleagues regarding the finding of the living or dead, their years, their places , they are similar, they are not similar, uh, by our specialists

we will now retreat from the word dna, because dna we cannot take those people , uh, they uh, they find uh, in the mass media, in various, in various youtube, telegram channels, which are on the territory of our ukraine or russia , uh, there are familiar faces, but people we have changed a lot, we have lost weight, we have changed under the e-e maps that exist and that is why we have to conduct this photo portrait examination, it is very developed in our country, that is why we e-e signed a memorandum with the governmental authority on human rights of the verkhovna rada with the red cross and well we were directly bombarded with e-e letters, this is very interesting, such an interesting type of research, we release about 20-30 e-e denis about a day, and we

hope that this will help e-e relatives of people who are in captivity to find out who they are well, in many cases, they are recorded there under other surnames, with other names, and to identify them in order to be able to carry out an exchange is very difficult, therefore, uh, i think that it is precisely this type of examination that we are doing right now and these uh, possibilities that are in we are just given to simple ordinary citizens to find of their close children, men, and this, well, i think that everyone needs it first of all, mr. oleksandr, that is, in fact, we now compare the photos of at least 30 people who are in captivity every day, 20-30 people a day, we are approximately equal, we can always find the data yes, we don't satisfy everyone, but out of those 30, 20-30 people, 10-15

if they match, imagine how much it is in total for the country. first of all, wives' children that the family will remain with the parents, of course, as examinations regarding there, well, pictures in portraits and other things, it is precisely this family that is addressed, mainly close relatives are addressed . er and they send it to us and we are already there quickly within two days we are trying to establish this case er and issue a result so that we are still a person waiting for us just like me looking for mr oleksandr, well, this is an interesting topic, i think we will come back to this topic, and it will be ours. let me remind you that

oleksandr ruvin, the director of the kyiv research institute of forensic examinations of the ministry of justice of ukraine, was quoted from the press . these are the components of our military program today, we understand that russia commits crimes, but on the ukrainian side , countermeasures and the collection of facts are being carried out so that the enemy is punished, and you will hear more current news in our issue of news, which will be hosted by iryna koval. congratulations, iryna vitayu as well and you and our viewers. literally in a moment, i will tell you about the most important events . wait until 14:00 in ukraine. for your attention, a news release on the espresso tv channel in the studio. iryna koval welcomes all the viewers as a result of the flood due to the explosion of kakhovskaya, at least