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the most powerful team in europe, but in istanbul , inter will play like the last time in their lives, watch the super final of the season until june at 22:00 exclusively on megogo mykola veresen vitaly portnikov and the main topics of the week is if it is used against ukraine god forbid really tactical nuclear weapons will definitely change the world history problems analysis and personalities we are waiting for john gerbs the former ambassador to of the united states of america in ukraine thanks for the transformation, you have questions, you will get answers, so the question awaits, how should you figure out the sportsmen of september that on friday at 21:15 on espressov this program is the verdict. and on facebook for those who are currently watching us live, please like this
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of ukraine, this disaster with the blowing up of the kakhovskaya hpp putin and lukashenko met today in sochi. lukashenko, the self-proclaimed president of belarus, flies to putin. as the first secretary of the central committee of the belarusian communist party, to the general secretary, they meet there almost every week to discuss something. well, it is clear that putin needs to show that he is meeting at least with someone, if not with his own. with his entourage , at least at least with the leader, the beggar leader of the belarusians , self-proclaimed at the meeting with lukashenka , putin said today, despite belgorod, in spite of the difficult situation that
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is already taking place on the territory of the russian federation with security in russia . everything is in order . everything is according to the plan. nuclear weapons and apparently the service personnel today confirmed both russia and belarus through the mouths of lukashenko and putin that the beginning of the transfer of tactical nuclear weapons to belarus will take place after july 7th and 8th, supposedly it has already begun the relocation was talked about earlier and the storage places are ready, but it is still visible that putin and lukashenko are doing it during the nato summit in vilnius. is this true according to your opinion? that is, we know that putin and russia are symbolists, yes
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, they always time such things for something and that this is another challenge and another blackmail to the world, including the north atlantic alliance. it is true. yes, but i would like to start with the piece that you showed regarding the security of russia, priest. you know , i think more and more about putin's plan isolate from real information and give only what he perceives as positive, well, this is such a common practice among the courtiers, when they are afraid to say something to the boss that can make him angry, well, in normal countries, the boss, receiving negative information, begins to think about what to do for
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in order to deal with it well, in despotisms , those who bring bad news are beheaded , therefore, from their point of view, a completely normal system of lies is formed. the rest of the people and at the same time from the truth and that's because that's how i am and i think when we hear otaku that's that's that's exactly the confidence of the lovers themselves that's that's the conversation that everything is fine i'm in control i think that it is far from good, far from control. well, let’s leave it at that. i’m sorry for it, for him, regarding the er placement. thank you, the placement of nuclear weapons er
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in belarus, we are absolutely right. this is the last er decision, the last goats left in the er putin in order to at least somehow try to keep the west in tension it must be said that this absolutely sluggish reaction to the crime in nova kakhovka and now the movement of nuclear weapons there closer to poland to europe is all that putin is using and as we can see from in principle, i use this lenient reaction quite successfully, but still i hope that the common sense of our esteemed western partners will still prevail and they
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will stop being afraid and understand that this is a typical russian blackmail, this is what russia relies on traditionally builds its policy when everyone they are afraid of something that in reality there is nothing, not a fact, whether all these weapons are ready for use, not a fact, whether they will be used, but the fear is already there, that's why i would like decisions to be made at the vinnytsia summit that will show putin that nobody is afraid of him anymore if this is not done, the blackmail will continue on june 12 in paris, mr. volodymyr should meet in lavsholz after all, duda and emanuel makro, well, at least there is such information in the mass media, it is expected that
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the dinner meeting will be dedicated to the desire of ukraine to membership in nato and security guarantees and allies on the eve of nato in july in vilnius a few weeks ago , volodymyr zelenskyi said that if there are no positive signals for ukraine, then it makes sense for ukrainians to go to the lithuanian capital , did the participants of the upcoming meeting hear what will influence the decision or at least some certain signals to give certain signals in ukraine, have they heard zelenskyi or do they understand that it is very important for ukraine to get some certain well, if not guarantees, then at least some statements and confirmation that ukraine will definitely be a member of the north atlantic alliance. well, i really don't like it. they will talk about ukraine without ukraine. although all our friends, closer and further away, and in the dining room
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talk about the fact that there is nothing about ukraine without of ukraine, and such a format, it really does not give an opportunity to convey to the partners what needs to be conveyed, of course , andriy duda will be, i think, our most important lawyer, and he is, well, one hundred percent, but - if they still talk about you, then you should report it to your relatives partners, friends, allies, the truth about the situation you are in, not your lawyer, no matter how good he may be. therefore, to be honest, this format confuses me a bit and , uh, well, the least alarming, but in relation to what we
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need. in this case, i support zelenskyi's position that we should go to listen to the fact that we will have something somewhere in the long run. believe me, we have come here for a long time and passed through this terrible blood that we shed every day on the battlefield for them is all theory they continue to think about the theoretical possibilities, well, that option or this option, but for some reason, they are afraid to take responsibility again , it is obvious that they do not want to declare war on russia, and that is why ukraine cannot become a member of the alliance today or tomorrow while the hostilities are going on, but to say that we will start the admission process for the second and after the hostilities are over and that from this moment until the full full-scale, so to speak , full-fledged membership, you
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will receive our nuclear guarantees to say completely it is possible, but only for this you need to have political will, this is what we are talking about, and this political will is not there because they are inventing some pseudo-security structures that have some kind of hybrid nature from israel , a particle from korea, from japan, from someone else there and they do some kind of security compote that actually, well, will not really work, we have already seen this compote in budapest in the so-called memorandum, what did it lead to? we see it today with our own eyes, so i think zelensky is right at some point, to move from diplomacy to tough talk, and ultimately put our red proportions, do you want us to be together, let's not want to, then talk
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about your fantasies, but without us, mr. volodymyr , i wanted to ask you about the bukhareian sami such took place in april 2008 18 in january, three officials, the president, the prime minister and the chairman of the verkhovna rada, signed a letter to the secretary general from hefer, which you, by the way, handed over , if i am not mistaken, from hefer, in which they asked to provide ukraine with an action plan regarding nato membership and then yulia tymoshenko, as far as i remember, wrote an amendment to this letter saying that ukraine can join nato only in the case of holding an all- ukrainian referendum, which should confirm this. we mention it because one way or another well, there must be some er certain
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causal non-consequential construction or why we are still not in nato because we were in bucharest we could have been closer to nato than in all the years i understand correctly, you see mr. serhiy, our great internal the ukrainian tragedy is that there are always a lot of populists here, lardy, who believe that populism is the way to make a political career, and what we experienced in the eighth year actually confirms that some political forces that are still today represented in the parliament, they lived and live by the same populism, well, maybe a little less now , because they
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are on hiatus. political will and of the president of ukraine and the chairman of the verkhovna rada regarding membership in nato er, but while you remember er, the party of regions russia, in principle, conducted colossal anti-nation propaganda in ukraine, and the number of people who er resolutely advocated joining was relatively small there er, from 19 to 30 to 32%, that is, it is not the overwhelming majority , not even just the majority. well , some political leaders found it much more interesting to play along with this mood than to pursue active politics, and therefore er after i really uh nato headquarters handed this letter to the general secretary, then, after a very short time, incognito
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arrived there as a messenger of the leader of the entire party and said that he said that this signature was made almost under pressure, that this the political force does not think that we should now go to nato and so on and so on. well, it is obvious that it was used not in the interests of ukraine but against the interests of ukraine and that is why the dead sarkozy was so happy because there is a split in one, the president and the speaker of the parliament for the accession are an example against the accession well, what's the point then to be in a big hurry. especially since then everyone in the west still believed putin in his stories, even though his
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speech was already well-known in the bulletin in 2007, but they did not pay attention to it. well, that's why we got such a result then, although formally he was not bad. nato said that we will be in the alliance, but it was postponed until better times . the current nato secretary general and gen. stoltenberg say that the issue of ukraine's membership in nato is practically resolved, russia does not have the right of veto. he said that ukraine and the north atlantic alliance will themselves solve when the time comes to officially offer membership, i don't know how to simply say the current words to interpret stoltenberg or whether we should talk about the fact that ukraine will confirm its status as a candidate in the alliance. are the people of the country that will be a member of the north atlantic alliance
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will we be able to do it because it is of course a very serious political decision if it happened in vilnius it would be a big slap in the face and putin is obviously saying exactly the right things, that is, he, by the way , it seems to me that in recent months he has a colossal internal revolution in his consciousness and from e the frightened general secretary, who was afraid to mention the word russia at all, now switched to a completely different formula when he talks about the fact that russia should be punished well, maybe because he in a couple of months, he ends his term as secretary general, now he can talk because you know that the vast majority of western politicians start saying smart
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things. well, here he is, and i take my hat off to him, here he is these last months and is really demonstrating what we have to demonstrate , the general secretary of the union, albeit defensive, but still military , now he finally seems to have caught on the wind and he likes to say what this alliance should do, but you see, well, he is only the secretary general, and the decisions are taken by many member countries, and if we hear again from some capitals, both in europe and, unfortunately, outside europe, that well, they say it's not time that this can again lead to excavation and well, other things that can’t really be named, then this only speaks of er reluctance
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er to make decisions and also about the weakness of this structure, by the way, this is also a topic for post -war er post-war changes, and such is not for us, too. it is necessary if it is afraid. well, we should also think about that structure, don't be afraid. and it will make decisions and punish those who violate the rules that have been accepted and confirmed by everyone, because today's nato is more like a no matter what happens than a structure that clearly shows what you will do so you will get that, well, for now unfortunately, this is not the case former french president francois hollande said in an interview with the times that the entire conflict or war in ukraine will continue until the end of the elections in the united states of america , if trump wins, said hollande, then obviously everything can stop
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mind the military aid. by the way, today a decision was made to provide ukraine with another package of military aid in the amount of 2 billion 100 million dollars, so ulang says that trump can stop all this, but they cannot keep everything to yourself, i quote that they have, war is very expensive. do you consider such an option that in the event of biden's defeat in the elections and trump's victory , the proposal of the minister of defense of indonesia may be implemented, when the conflicts will be frozen, and following the example of korea, that is, along the line of demarcation and there will be two conditional ukraines. well, you see, mr. serhiy, there is still quite a long time before the us elections, and it seems to me that by then we will have very practical results on the battlefield, after
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all, the counteroffensive is starting, and i very much believe in the fact that the training that was carried out by our e-e armed forces is the weaponry that we received all this, well, and most importantly, the fighting spirit e-e , all this will give the hammer a cumulative effect when the russian e-e onslaught is stopped and this horde is thrown out of bounds of ukraine regarding whether trump will win, because i don't know. i'm reading about the next accusations that are being brought against him , which are getting more and more together, although the people there are calling them ridiculous . but the positives are great trump cards for any of his opponents even republican ones party, because if new and new criminal charges are brought against a politician every time, then this is clearly not in his
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favor, and it is not yet known who will really win , everything is very dynamic in the republican party itself, and that is why we do not think that we can't talk about something now. well, it's already too defined. in this regard , uh, i believe even more that we saw everything when trump was the president, that despite his efforts, uh, still uh, in kochi two -party support for ukraine, although there are of course marginals in not one and the other parties, but positive, the overwhelming majority of both democrats and republicans are in favor
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of continuing the aid . to speak, and especially understanding that the war gives the american military-industrial complex new opportunities for development . so everything is not so clear-cut here, and it seems to me that for now we should actually think about not about the victory of this or that candidate. magnification military aid is very good, and you are talking about it just now, but the americans are giving another large batch of weapons that should help ukraine win, because of course if the matter freezes, it will be presented by biden's opponents as his defeat, therefore , and in in this regard, we must win , mr. volodymyr, this is the end of our program , i want to ask you about this concept, which is quite
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often used now by the initiators of so-called peace agreements or peace negotiations , the concept of a new territorial reality this term is used quite often, and it is clear that most of those who seek to push for peace plans, they count on the fact that the leadership of the ukrainian state will make territorial concessions, it is meant to recognize, as they say, the new territorial reality, there is a survey by miss. where only 10% of ukrainians polled ukrainians believe that in order to achieve peace and preserve independence, it is possible to give up some lands and this is quite a powerful argument for completely ignoring all these peace initiatives in general, whether and whether there can be some kind of compromise if we are talking about some
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kind of peaceful conditional peace plan or a plan for peace for ukraine well, to be honest, i don’t see any compromise because if we give up some of our territory, it means that international law can it's very easy. just tear it into small pieces and make a big review out of it, because it doesn't work. so, it means that you can seize someone else's territory and you can not be punished for your crime after that, because any gre- this is a crime of armed aggression but they are playing if evil is not punished, it is repeated, these are things that we have known and understood for a long time, so i think that we have no chance of accepting such proposals . well, first of all, any politician who
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does this will be gone the next day you simply won't be such a politician in ukraine, and secondly, it will mean that global democracy has been defeated by global deterrism, and therefore the continuation will be very fast. i think that this is understood in all capitals. well, but they are still afraid to take this last final step and say yes to ukraine donato and tell russia another similar case and you will get what you, as i already mentioned, next week on june 16-17 the leaders of seven african countries will fly to kyiv and moscow . how do you predict what this meeting will mean? will end in kyiv than in moscow can be predicted. and in kyiv, we will politely listen to mine
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and tell you about the absolute unacceptability of such proposals. so we will advise them in moscow to explain to putin that africa will be hungry if he does not stop the war, i would uh build a conversation exactly in a different way well, i don't think we need to convince them . grisko is a politician, diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-2009 . the leaders will be in kyiv on the 17th in st. petersburg to meet with putin, and this respectable highly respected delegation from africa will, of course , all this is happening against the background of the destruction of the
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kakhovka hpp and flooding on the one hand on the other hand, the dehydration of part of the agricultural enterprises that work in the south and that grow products, including for the countries of africa, because this is a very important issue not only for ukraine and for the whole world, for the balance of food in the world, and well, of course, we will wait for the results of the negotiations. arrivals - this week , so far, the situation looks like this, that any peace initiatives put forward to kyiv were unacceptable because they involved the acceptance of the so-called new territorial reality, in other words, the rejection of of the occupied regions of ukraine in russian. federations, friends, we will put an end to this. i remind you that we are working live on the espresso tv channel. you can like this video on youtube or on
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