[000:00:00;00] nuclear weapons are unacceptable for use, and as we have heard from several highly respected senior representatives of the united states, we have made it clear to the russian federation that we will not accept the use of nuclear weapons against ukraine and our response will be absolutely harsh you and i know that this man-made catastrophe can be equated in principle with the use of tactical nuclear weapons, but the world is not ready to react in the same way as it should, supposedly, would you be ready to react if it were tactical nuclear weapons and how for me, this is another serious test, which at the moment , in my opinion, the world cannot cope with. and now we

see that they need more time in order to use their point of view and the order of actions they resort to in order to e -e, in order to somehow seriously react to this, here is this er-e well, this is not the speed of the reaction a-and it is very, very alarming, as for me er-e, all we can do next is to provide the maximum information what we have but at the same time , again for us, this is another challenge when here so gray begins to depict what is in fact absolutely black and white and understandable for us and should be understandable at least for the free world for that part of the world that claims to freedom claims to rules claims to understand

who we are with the case from the side of this authoritarian terrorist country, which is the russian federation, i want to ask you about the incredible story of the transfer to the russian orthodox church of citizens of ukraine , prisoners of war, e. of strange stories that took place during this war, when the rpc acts as the main intermediary for the transfer of prisoners of war, not for ukraine, but for hungary, we are talking about ukrainian citizens. obviously, they can also have a hungarian ethnic origin, an allegory or hungarian citizenship, this is of no great importance, because they are ukrainian servicemen and here it is, what does this gesture mean in general, why is it necessary, how does hungary look in this situation? although of course we understand that every freed person is already a holiday, but this diplomatic the trajectory, of course, every life is extremely important to us and it's a-a-wonderful

that i hope that these uh-uh ukrainian citizens from hungary will also return home , but in my opinion, this is uh-uh, well, such a deliberately thought-out story that would have the purpose to a certain extent somewhere to increase the importance of hungary and in general in this uh in this conflict in this war between the russian federation ukraine and the free world because you and i know that hungary has repeatedly put sticks in the wheels with sanctions uh sanctions package a-a a separate element of these sanctions packages. well, we can also consider it as gratitude in this way, and the increase of this importance of the alleged importance of hungary in the resolution of humanitarian issues is like

kirill's gratitude for the fact that hungary at one time took out of one of the sanctions packages is the leader of the kadebiysk moscow church, and perhaps you can consider this a step in the game on the part of kirill, thank you mrs. ivanna ivana klympush-tensad for the people's deputy of ukraine , the head of the committee on the integration of ukraine into the european union, we were out of touch and we let's return now to the security situation at zaporizhzhia cs, we have it on the line, mykola shteinberg, former chief engineer of the chernobyl nuclear power plant, former head of the state nuclear safety combine and former deputy minister of fuel and energy of ukraine, congratulations, so let's meet you, mykola, for the first time secondly, i want to ask you what could happen at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant as a result of what we are observing these days, what are

the security threats, what do you and i think should happen they ask questions, tears from the gift shop were paid, nothing can happen after three days and incomprehensible delays . finally, the fifth block went to talk, it will take a certain time there, a dozen of 12 hours later. there is nothing from the point of view of nuclear safety . east again, minutes will not be wiped out there, and from the point of zoryana, i will work at the station until the kakhov reservoir is restored, the station will stand. well, in this situation, it may be that the water level in the reservoirs may decrease there who cool these ponds, everyone is talking about these ponds, we talked about it with the head of murkorogidinergo, that

the water level of this cooling pond may decrease there, if it will decrease, how to cool the reactor in 20 hours , the block will be branched posle etogo they won't be until the new collective farm reservoir appears. well , if it doesn't go at all, it won't appear , that is, there is also a question. the distance is written off. yesterday evening or at night, i flew to the site kirinka well, i have a political task as the deputy head of this office of the president, or how is he in

the presidential administration? yes, because they still asked, otherwise, let the station be used to generate electricity. they sold milliliters to people. income today is not needed, no one is interested in what year and she wants to support it or not , what else can they do to provoke you? сегодня не работаеш он тепер попробляющие деньги and do you generally understand, here is kirylenko, he is a former head of dew there, he was considered a professional manager of seedlings, in principle vitaliy should not be confused with a good manager, with a good manager, with a good manager, he knows how to earn money. i'm telling you because i know him, i had to work with him, i understand, well, in any case, a person who

has managed such a company for so many years can realize that if there is no water, there is no station well, it's logical if a moment if i realize it, so i'm absolutely convinced anyway the hand doesn't know what the other one is doing or it could just be if there 's one more what is the spent money of the wheelbarrow of the kherson region from the point of view of ecology, this is all how something will be restored somewhere what is the kakhovo reservoir, this is a colossal increase - there were surplus products in the kherson region the same is true of the most famous watermelons tomatoes are the only ones that are available only in the kherson region in ukraine, this is a reborn krym, which never produces such a quantity of rural production. as

after the channel appeared, it is perfectly crimean, from the point of view of the rural economy of people, from the point of view of the holiday season, and so on . can stion there as a military base is absolutely calm , but there will be no agriculture, there will be no resort, and i will need a military base , the black sea fleet will be supplied with water. and it is enough and it is necessary whether it is the main thing at all, because, again, to keep exactly the black sea fleet trades money . yes, she says that they will make money, so if i think the defendant, this is probably working, this is already a human mechanism. is it possible to provoke an accident at the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant if it is provoked

? what can its volumes be ? from the point of view of the accident such consequences as possible were chernobylskaya there already быть может может чернобылская chernobyl reactor and reactors at fukushima they exploded at the moment when they were hot and were in working condition correctly zirconium reaction brought a hydrogen explosion to the mouth and so on here это уже это быть есть время в животный часть есть время

время в животный через есть время время в животных выбор есть время время в животно. there is no aggression cabbage, there is no zaporizhzhia region , vitaliy, energy does not exist for me, the national economy, that we will produce metallurgy, chemistry, heavy electricity, yes, or a mental body, it is a little less electricity. лет есть и будет чем тысят просмотреть электроенгии бъём страны и для будущество развития yes, it will be necessary unconditionally. i correctly understand that without such an electric power plant as zaporizhzhya, we we cannot sell electricity to other countries, as we did it, we did all these flows, and secondly, there cannot be metallurgy of such a level, or chemistry of such a level, well, at least in this region, it is an industrial region, well, you understand the concept of the region m-m takoe

онзлицительный просмотровая закалцованности energy systems or yes, there will be restrictions without words, what kind, well, it’s hard to say, i won’t give them to our economy, how will they be increased , you understand, we have certain energy, certain metallurgical enterprises left those that are in the unoccupied territory in kryvyi rih, they took water from this energy from the kakhovka e-e gres in nikopol big industry in zaporizhzhia big industry but now there is no water and there is no zaporizhzhia npp well, look at the situation of the country- ukraine is de-occupied and it doesn't matter at a certain moment there is not, we don't know when it will all be restored well, i don't know what will happen to these enterprises there, by the way, if you remember, there is a local enterprise nikopol in pokrovsk, the former ordzhonikidze of the dnipropetrovsk region, there is a manganese plant i he i will not count them viewers know it you know it better than me

how it all works well i think in zaporizhzhia i just think there i have problems to solve time will solve the problem of non-vernenik main hydrogens from the same zaporozhye reservoir balance driver did not change from above to ensure kryvyi rih, nikopolit game is a state task, i poisoned klim far away. this is not the information that is present in the press . the solution is openly distributed. ukraine can survive at the expense of the use of those nuclear reactors, some of them continue to work at nuclear power plants that continue to be in the energy system, it eats less work and

it will continue to work in that territory . well, as far as i understand, there are also certain problems with it, they were closed for repair , they were started in some emergency mode, as far as it is in general, i can work in conditions when there is no zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, it is impossible to turn them off and repair them put on some kind of rest mode, the period does not work, the bottom of the air is taken, there will be stops, there will be overloads, and so on, as they always worked according to the schedule. and you can give me an answer. nuclear power plants of ukraine . in general, not american nuclear fuel can be transferred. we have been working without zaporozhskaya for 10 months. i understand. 9 месяцев работаем без запорожков, i start from march, until september we worked only on two units and six

electricity, what is the real balance today , alas, i don't know, but if i knew, i wouldn't say, i'll repeat my question is technologically clean nuclear fuel for our nuclear power plants, mostly of russian production , this is tveli, can we quickly switch to american fuel, and what needs to be done for this, and can we even afford to still depend on russian supplies? american fuel is already available today, which means that i don’t know which blocks were used, there was a two-year supply, so they will be overloaded, and those who feed it are not enough

as far as i understand the agreement, there is fuel, how much, in principle, do you see all the possibilities for restoring the ukrainian energy industry after all these attacks that happened this winter? well, why am i asking because everyone says that there will be new outages, that there may be more outages in the summer, what can be outages in the winter, that it is just so illusory without stability, but a sufficient amount of generation will still not be enough when the heating season begins , the absolute right, the situation is at the highest level , the voltage of the work details is also nothing everywhere they say that restoration is going on in certain blocks that can be restored thermally, today there is a lot of luck in ukraine for small taxi drivers of concrete installations for conveying concrete objects and this is ongoing work will be delivered painfully less now, the system of providing these stations

with diesel fuel, supplying me with it from different countries is a difficult task, too, well this winter was solved , this winter was. let's say so, don't be a jerk, yes , there will be a problem. well, they are used to covering rackets, this time. well, no, of course there was one like that 80 years ago, it was worse. well, it seems to me that tina was just such an industry, after all, as it is now right here. but no, there was not such a population , where did such a thing come from ? сельская хозяйзыте и так далее сложнейшая дачач because of the complex thank you, mr. mykola, i can say that i think you have calmed down many viewers, especially those who live somewhere in the zaporizhzhia energodar region

, first of all, i calmed them down, don't fall in a panicky mood, you need to understand the situation, understand everything, there will be problems, and think about how much you can contribute. yes, if you have a number of rooms in your house, each person will have a spare room for electronic lighting, tvs, i will read the equipment . it is also possible, too, and there is a peak time. thank you, mykola shteinberg, the former chief engineer of the chornobyl nuclear power plant, we were in touch on this broadcast, oleksiy baranovskyi, an employee of the political center of the russian of the anti-putiv opposition, this polycenter happens to be in the union, it is from the freedom of russia district , which is the power king of the opposition from mr. oleksiy, representative of the political region of the legion of freedom of russia. greetings, oleksiy. good evening

. let's talk. after all, everything that is happening now in the belgorod region can be summed up of this operation to be finished at the moment, in fact, the results seem to me to run up a-a visa war , the struggle in the hands of the russian rebels continues and uh, i think that in the next week we will we will discuss every day, like idiots, the development of the offensive to liberate russia by the russian rebels , but now there is such a political discussion between the representatives of the russian opposition . oleksiyya, listen, we have already

convinced you that without weapons, the protesters are no good in belarus, they are more so in russia, do something substantial, because the cosmonauts are opposed to putin's armed guards the so-called reconnaissance, well, it's pointless to go against these er special er units, that's why only an armed position, only partisan movement , only sabotage, railway tracks, this is the only possible method, which er, if not guarantee it, at least give hope for victory in a dark confrontation with putin's regime here by the way, you mentioned sabotage on the railways, this is an interesting topic because it appeared on the railways in belarus with the aim of preventing

the advance of russian troops there, blowing up some cargoes, etc., they literally started with in the first days after russia attacked ukraine and they used belarusian territory but in russia we did not see this and here the question is whether there was no one to do it or the russian security forces simply act more i would say professionally than the belarusian and that and that but the partisan movement started on the railway tracks. also, already at the beginning of may, we saw several such significant partisan attacks on the railways . i drew attention to the fact that it was not the passenger trains that were attacked, but only the echelons who worked for the russian army, so yes, apparently, these are not a very large number

of shares on the railway , but they exist and they are becoming more and more effective every day. the russian border is the same myth as the second army of the world, but the intelligence reported that it is possible to cross this border and cross a large number of armed men , and we did it, and not only in the short region, the situation is also in bryansk kurskoy they are they are waiting for us and they will release the beginning of the movement and in those directions we can also expect it in the near future according to sociology, but in

these regions it is the so-called former red belt, remember where the residents even in the 90s voted for the communist party , elected communist governors, supported the war is higher than the average in russia , how to change their attitudes so when you say that they are waiting for you there, you get the impression that precisely in those regions there are fewer people who would wait for some real changes in the country and for some democratization well, first of all, i do not believe in any pledge on the russian territory, secondly, the opinion of the average citizens of russia does not matter at all , only the only thing that matters is whether there will be resistance to the entire release uh, we believe that the security forces are the overwhelming majority

of uh, after the liberation of ukraine, crimea, uh, there will be uh, collegations, whose year was the adoption of putin's regime or the villages of liberation, uh, and here, for example , it's prigozhin and wagner, they will be uh, uh to put up armed resistance and it is our competitors for power the future, but what is the opinion of ordinary residents on this matter, it does not matter, they are not actors in this confrontation, they did not raise the question of the power of the future government in russia, therefore, then, when one of the parties wins, the majority wins the people of russia will simply accept a new winner, we believe that we will be the winner, not yevgeny prigozhin . well, if you want to be the winner, then you will have to hold democratic elections

, i apologize. you guys remember, well, i remember, of course, there will be elections, but not at the same time, uh, we think that a transition period is needed, and probably two years at least first. we should conduct lustrations and arrest all war criminals, and remove putin's officials from labor to the state sector and only then, er, start the election procedure, but it is not necessary , not the other way around, well, it is logical. what do with wagneris, which corresponds to the russian-official ideology that has been planted on russian

territory for the past two decades. and before that, it was planted for 70 years and before that for 300 years. well, i am not saying that it will be very simple and easy to do . of course, but we're trying to change it, if i don't try, there won't be any results , that's why it's going to be difficult because there's a lot of blood , unfortunately, but we just don't have any other way out except to try to change the government in russia with weapons in hand and tell me, in principle, it was always believed that this situation with a change of power in the current conditions is not particularly realistic, and considering the strength of the czech this entire vertical, however , after the breakthrough of the border, we can reevaluate

the capabilities of the fsb, and it is smart and you understand that the libras are swaying and the chellezmoth tea victory will be in question, especially after the liberation of crimea, so the chekists should also have been able to switch sides for the last time, in any case, we consider that this is quite a possible scenario well, not everything, of course but the part is somehow fulfilling it can be a stab in the back. this is what people say in the kremlin . by the way, this is a good question. many people in ukraine and in the west always believe that the deoccupation of crimea from other ukrainian regions will automatically lead to the collapse of the putin regime so that putin he will lose his position

, he will be removed from his post, killed. i don't know what else will happen. do you really think that military defeats are the road to the reformation of the regime, so to speak, internally, how seriously can you take it, not automatically , of course, but it will open er window the possibility er the regime will become weak er and at this very moment it will be necessary to take an aggressive step er a march to moscow and actually a mutiny er an uprising in moscow itself a-a but i repeat it will be difficult it will not be an easy walk but we have to do it, what do you think about the mood of the so-called regional elites

, and all these governors of local entrepreneurs, how ready are they to confront moscow if there is such an opportunity for us ? resources especially this uh, it concerns the minions with oil wells and other things, uh, it is possible for them to start moving from moscow, the center is fast, but i don’t think they will start doing anything before there is a military defeat in ukraine, but you were in brussels, right? in your opinion, western politicians have a position regarding the possibility of some forceful actions in russia itself , because we hear all the time that there is no need to transfer the war to the territory of russia, there is no need for the citizens of russia to suffer, it is enough let the citizens of ukraine suffer, that's almost

it is officially said in the western capitals that there is a very big difference between what they say on the sidelines and what they do in public , of course. they have information about the real course of action and understand what partisan politics is. but the tradition of careful statements in public space is of course the valid card of any government of love and bureaucracy, so the situation may change when, for example , the legion of freedom of russia and the rdk will create an enclave with the markings of such a state , i.e. military-civilian administration for example, the flag, the coat of arms, the name belgorodskaya narodnaya respublika, that's it, that's it, then