[000:00:00;00] that the common sense of our esteemed western partners will still prevail and they will stop being afraid and understand that this is a typical russian blackmail, this is what russia traditionally builds its policy on, when everyone is afraid of something that in reality does not exist, which is far from a fact or all these weapons are it is ready for use, which is not a fact, whether it will be used, but the fear is already there, so i would like decisions to be made at the vinnytsia summit that will show putin that nobody is afraid of him anymore, if this is not done, the blackmail will continue 12 in june in paris, mr. volodymyr should meet in lavsholts, because yeduda and emanuel macro, well, at least this information is

in the mass media, it is expected that the dinner meeting will be devoted to ukraine's desire for nato membership and the guarantee of security and allies on the eve of nato itself in july in vilnius several weeks ago , volodymyr zelenskyy said that if there are no positive signals for ukraine , then it would make sense for ukrainians to go to the lithuanian capital . at least for some certain signals to give certain signals in ukraine, have they heard zelenskyi or do they understand that it is very important for ukraine to get some certain at this summit, well, if not guarantees, then at least some statements and confirmation that ukraine will definitely be a member of the north atlantic

alliance well, i like them very much what will be said about ukraine without ukraine although all our friends, close and distant and ideal , talk about the fact that there is nothing about ukraine without ukraine, uh, and such a format uh, he uh really doesn't give an opportunity to convey to the partners what needs to be conveyed, of course andrzej duda will be, i think, our most important lawyer, and he is , well, one hundred percent, but when they still talk about you, you have to inform your partners, friends, allies, the truth about the situation you are in, not your lawyer, no matter how good he may be. therefore, to be honest, this format confuses me a bit and, uh , well, it is the least bit alarming, but as for what

we need, we are already really talking about it, and i in this case, i support the position zelensky, why go to listen to the fact that someday in the long term, we will have something somewhere? believe me , we have passed through, passed through a long time ago, and passed through this terrible blood, which we shed every day on the battlefield for it's all a theory for them, they continue to think about the theoretical possibilities, well, that option or this option, but for some reason , they are afraid to take responsibility again, well , it's obvious that they don't want to declare war on russia, and that's why ukraine can't become a member of the alliance today or tomorrow while the hostilities are going on, but to say that we will start the admission process on the second day after

the hostilities end and that from this moment until the full-scale, so to speak , acquisition of membership, you will receive our nuclear guarantees it is quite possible to say, but only for this you need to have political will, that is what we are talking about, and this political will is not there because they are inventing some pseudo security structures that have some kind of hybrid nature from israel, a part of uh, korea, japan, someone else there, and they are making some kind of security compote, which actually, well, it will not really work . we have already seen this compote in budapest in the so-called memorandum. it led to this . today, we see with our own eyes some moments of transition to diplomacy

a tough conversation and put in the end our red proportions do you want us to be together let's not want then talk about your fantasies but without us mr. volodymyr i wanted to ask you about the bukhareian sami such took place in april on january 18, 2008, three officials, the president, the prime minister, and the chairman of the verkhovna rada signed a letter to the secretary general from the hefeper, which you, by the way, handed over, if i am not mistaken, from the hefeper, in which they asked to provide ukraine with an action plan regarding membership in nato and then yulia tymoshenko as far as i i recall that i wrote an amendment to this letter saying that ukraine can join nato only if an all-ukrainian referendum is held to confirm this. let us remind you why

bucharest failed to do so in the eighth year why are we mentioning this now because one way or another well, there must be some kind of causal-non-consequential construction or why we are still not in nato because we were in bucharest, we could have been closer to nato than in all the years , i understand correctly, you see, mr. serhiy, our the great internal ukrainian tragedy is that we always have a lot of populists in larda who believe that populism is the only way to make a political career, and what we experienced in 2008 actually confirms that some political forces still today represented in the parliament, they did not live and live with the same populism, well, maybe a little less now

, because they are on hiatus . although there was a political will of both the president of ukraine and the chairman of the verkhovna rada regarding membership in nato, but when you remember, the party of regions russia, in principle, conducted colossal anti-nation propaganda in ukraine and the number of people who strongly advocated there was an introduction relatively small there, from 19 to 30 to 32%, that is, it is not an overwhelming majority , not even just a majority. well , some political leaders found it much more interesting to play with this mood than to pursue active politics, and therefore after i actually

delivered this letter to the nato headquarters to the secretary general, then after a very short time , the messenger of the leader of the entire party arrived there incognito and said that he was saying this signature was, well , made almost under the pressure that this is political the force does not think that we should go to nato now and so on and so on. well, it is obvious that this was used not in the interests of ukraine but against the interests of ukraine, and that is why the dead sarkozy was so happy because there is a split in note - in the ukrainian government, only the presidents, the head of the parliament, are in favor of joining the prime minister, against joining. well, then why be in such a hurry, especially since everyone in the west then

and still should have believed putin in his stories , even though there was already his famous speech in munich in 2007 but it was not paid attention to well, that's why we got such a result then, although formally it was not bad. nato said that we would be in the alliance, but it was postponed until better times. the current secretary general of nato and gen. stoltenberg say that the question of ukraine's membership in nato is practically resolved in russia. veto rights he said that ukraine and the north atlantic alliance will decide for themselves when the time comes to officially offer membership, i don't know how to simply say the current words to interpret stoltenberg or whether we should talk about the fact that ukraine

will also confirm his status as a candidate in the alliance . are the people of the country that will be a member of the north atlantic alliance , will we be able to do it, because it is of course a very serious political decision, if it happened in vilnius, it would be a big slap for putin, too, well, obviously oleksandr says exactly the right things, that is, he er . by the way, it seems to me that in recent months he has made a colossal internal revolution in his consciousness, and from er, the frightened general secretary er, who was afraid to mention the word russia at all , now switched to a completely different formula when he says that russia should be punished. well, maybe because he will finish his term as general in a couple of months, now you can talk to him because you know that the vast majority of western politicians start saying smart things after

they go to the time when they will imprison something, they are very afraid to say it well, but here he is, and i take off my hat in front of him, here he is these last months and really demonstrates what we have to demonstrate , the general secretary, although defensive, but still still of the military union now he finally seems to have caught the wind and it will help him - he likes to say what this alliance should do, but you see, well, he is only the secretary general , the decisions are taken by many member countries, and if we hear again from some capitals in europe and, unfortunately, outside of europe, which, they say, is not at the right time, that this can again lead to excavations and other things that

cannot really be called serious, then this only speaks of the reluctance to make decisions and the weakness from this structure, by the way, this is also a topic for a post post-war changes, etc. nobody needs it if it is afraid. we should also think about the structure that will not be afraid. it looks more like if something doesn't work out than a structure that clearly shows you'll do it so you'll get it, well, for now unfortunately, that's not the case former french president francois hollande in an interview with the times said that the entire conflict or war in

ukraine will continue until the end in in the united states of america, if trump wins, holland said, then obviously everything can stop, he means military aid. by the way, today a decision was made to provide ukraine with another package of military aid in the amount of 2 billion 100 million dollars, so holland says that trump can stop everything and the russians can keep everything for themselves , i quote what they have, the war is very expensive. do you consider such an option that in the event of biden's defeat in the elections and trump's victory, this proposal can be implemented minister of defense of indonesia, when conflicts will be frozen and following the example of korea, that is, along the demarcation line, there will be two conditional ukraines. well, you see, mr. serhiy, there is still quite a long time before the us elections, and

it seems to me that by then we will have very practical results on the battlefield, after all, counteroffensive begins and i very much believe that the training that was carried out by our e-e armed forces is the weaponry that we received all this well and most importantly the fighting spirit e-e all this will give a young cumulative effect when the russian e-e invasion is stopped and this horde will be thrown out of ukraine regarding whether or not trump will win . well, i don't know. i'm reading about the next accusations that we bring against him, which together are getting more and more, although the people there call them ridiculous. but the positive is a great trump card for any of his opponents

even the republican parties, because if new and new criminal charges are brought against a politician every time, then this clearly does not benefit him, and it is not yet known who will really win, everything is very moving in the republican party itself. that's why we don't think that we can't talk about something now. well, it's already decided. in this regard, uh, and i believe even more in the fact that we all saw when trump was the president that despite his efforts, uh, still uh in the congress, there is two-party support for ukraine, although there are, of course, marginals in neither of the parties, but the positive thing is that the overwhelming majority of democrats and republicans are in favor of continuing aid. and

if you look at the numbers then it's something in general 0:0 from the fact that there is er gdp of the usa, that is, these are not the amounts that can be talked about at all and especially understanding that the war gives the american military-industrial complex new opportunities for development, so everything is not so clear-cut here, and it seems to me that for now we should actually think about not the victory of this or that candidate, but about the increase military aid is very good, and it was just now reminded that the americans are giving another large batch of weapons that should help ukraine win, because of course if the case freezes, it will be presented

by biden's opponents as his defeat uh, and in this regard, we must uh, win, mr. volodymyr, this is the end of our program , i want to ask you about this concept, which is often used by the initiators of so -called peace agreements or peace negotiations , the concept of a new territorial reality, uh, quite often this term is used , and it is clear that the majority of those who seek to push for peace plans, they count on the fact that the leadership of the ukrainian state will make territorial concessions, it is meant to recognize, as they say, the new territorial the reality is a survey by the city where only 10% of ukrainians surveyed believe that in order to achieve peace and preserve independence

, it is possible to give up some lands can there be some kind of compromise if we are talking about some peaceful conditional peace plan or a plan for peace for ukraine well, to be honest, i don't see any compromise that we are giving up some of our territory means that international law can very easily be torn into small pieces and make a big revision out of it because it doesn't work. so, it means that you can seize someone else's territory and then you can not be punished for your crime because any aggression is a crime of armed aggression. if evil is not punished , it is repeated. these are things that have been known and understood for a long time, so i think that we have

no chance of accepting such proposals . well, first of all, whatever what kind of politician is this he will do it on the second day, it won't be like that anymore, i just won't be in ukraine, and secondly, it means that world democracy has been defeated by world guitarism here, and therefore the continuation will be very fast. i think that this is understood in all capitals. well, but for now, they are still afraid to take this last final step and tell ukraine yes to nato and tell russia another similar case and you will get what you uh, as i already mentioned, next week on june 16-17 they will fly to kyiv and to moscow leaders of the seven of african countries. how do you predict how this meeting will end in kyiv? why can you predict in moscow? and

in kyiv, we will politely listen to my words and tell you about the absolute unacceptability of such proposals. so we will advise them in moscow to explain to putin that africa will be hungry if he won't stop the war, i would uh build the conversation in a different way. well , i don't think we need to convince them. thank you, mr. volodymyr, for the conversation. it was volodymyr hryshko , a politician-diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-2009. about the situation surrounding the kakhov gesture of peace initiatives with which the leaders of seven african countries are to come to kyiv and moscow next week on june 16th, these leaders will be in kyiv on the 17th in st. petersburg to meet with putin there will be, er, this respected

highly respected delegation from africa well, of course all this is happening against the background of the destruction of the kakhovka hydroelectric power plant and the flooding on the one hand, and on the other hand the dehydration of part of the agricultural enterprises that work in the south and that grow products , including for african countries, because this is very an important issue not only for ukraine and for the whole world for the food balance in the world and well, of course, we will wait for the results of the negotiations. the arrivals of the seven the initiatives put forward to kyiv were unacceptable because they involved the acceptance of the so-called new territorial reality, simply put, the rejection of the occupied regions of ukraine by the russian federation, friends, we will put an end to this. i remind you that we are working

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land iryna prokofiev tsn 1+1 marathon the only news was that it was forbidden to leave houses and settlements , they took away boats and fired at people with machine guns and artillery, in the end they did not organize an evacuation, all this is about the russians and their actions in in the flooded cities and villages of the occupied left bank of the kherson region, tsn talked with people who were waiting for rescue there, even through those who , despite the opposition of the russians, still organized the evacuation of people, tsn correspondent maryana bukhan, then created such a human shield of boats - this is hell on earth olezhka gola prystan beloved kardashinka solontsi and several other occupied settlements on the left bank of the kherson region, they not only ended up a few meters under

water, the people there were trapped by the russians , for the last few days tsn has been talking by phone with people who found themselves in the middle of large water and also with by their relatives, who from different parts of ukraine and the world are trying to organize the evacuation of people who have been sitting in attics and roofs all these days waiting for rescue. it floats, show me my phone, i'm already sighing, and more than who is here, who is connecting here, there is no one around, meanwhile , the russians say that people not only blocked their evacuation routes, for example , to the occupied crimea, but also threatened them with reprisals if they leave their populated areas , they tried to register today three times they don't let someone in. ruslan said that

they won't let anyone in at the checkpoints. and everyone who will try to evacuate people on their own, they will just shoot when people tried to fight, but they stopped. the russians were aiming the machine gun and told me to climb down and tie it to a tree and it hangs on the roof. people are sitting on the roof and the water is running around. they are shooting at this roof . a projectile is flying over the roof. they captured zak and did not organize it for their propaganda tv. they filmed several videos where the ministry of emergency situations of russia floats somewhere and even transports several people, but everyone with whom tsn spoke says

that the people did not receive help from me, they did not help anyone, we all a-but they tell us mainly there are girls from firstly they laugh secondly they start say that who are you, what are you, did you tell me something here, i have so many people sitting there, they also need to be rescued. there are a lot of buses now, people don't want to evacuate, no one is evacuating anyone, i can hear that somewhere there , a boat seems to be working, some kind of motor. well, we have здесь всё глухо why did they call the ministry of emergencies and abandon the evacuation ? well

, they told him that сейчас проплыём сейчас переплыём что сейчас пропливём сейчас переплыём crimea, but the russians don't let them on boats to the middle of the floods, even those who have russian passports, people who have russian passports , they are considered to be all of the rgs, so something, people who help each other, that's good, and those who don't help, that's the fuck in the coordination group, what engages in the evacuation of about a thousand applications for rescue; each application may contain a family of several people; the number of people waiting for rescue does not decrease because the water continues to heat up other settlements; however , the volunteers also have unpleasant statistics - these are the people which they did not have time to save, yesterday there were applications and today only corpses, how many hives, how many can we only guess, because there is no communication in the left bank, there is no tv, and in the house she was shouting and sending. well, we couldn't.

could we save them because the door was closed upside down and we already swam of course i swim well, i could not open the door , the evacuation coordinator says that if the russians had not prevented the residents of the right bank from rescuing people from the roofs and flooded houses already they took away everyone, but this did not happen, and the relatives of those who are now without light and drinking water in oleshki or bare prystan can only believe that their loved ones are alive . and i hope that the water will not reach the roof of the house, it will be able to wait . kolisnyk tsn 1+1 marathon , the only news, and then the story of an incredible rescue from a house near oleshki, they saved a family that escaped from high water and climbed

into the attic. territory how they met their rescuers is going now the family of tsn correspondent olena vanina will tell everything footage of this rescue operation flew around the world on the roof of the drowning house, a woman with two children is first delivered water and food by drone, and later they are rescued by boat, all this happens near the flooded ash trees in the occupied part of the kherson region, hundreds of people are waiting there for rescue, this family was lucky because the house was in the gray zone and our military was able to get there, now katya max and masha are safe and with them the most precious a souvenir bottle of water, hold on, don't panic, there will be an evacuation and santa's signature with a smiley face of such bottles, they threw several of them to the hungry, frightened and wet ones with the help of a drone , they saved this one as a memory, he says that they were saving themselves on the roof of someone else's dacha, the highest

building in the cooperative, the water arrived very quickly, the second floor of them because they generally have a high foundation, and what was dry , but they cleaned it after three , there was already knee-deep water, and we, who are with children, are in the attic, in the attic, which is so high. that's how it is that she crashed her head and her back against this beam to their dacha last year from occupied kherson , then it was calmer here, but later their city was liberated and they remained under occupation because there was no longer a road home, they lived for 8 months feeding on the supplies of their neighbors who they left, survived russian military raids, shelling, and now the flood. katya remembers how her father and a neighbor brought them by boat to this house as soon as they and their children disembarked. how the boat with the men broke away and was carried away by the raging current the body current we carried imagine i am left alone with two children night water no food no because she is all in the boat that carried away