[000:00:00;00] there are no obstacles, they are really there today, we have enough volume, but what is important to us is that we will not lose this technique, why, because you know that we do not have a lot of cover from the air today, and why we have repeatedly stressed to our partners the need to provide us there f16, these are the two squadrons that we have to receive credit for by the end of the year, they do not pose a threat to russia by and large, but they can play a big positive role in maintaining our offensive actions during our counteroffensive, but in the end in the absence of such support, it is now clear that we will have their losses and we need to somehow replace these things and protect the defense equipment. in touch and now with us is our colleague, the editor -in-chief of the edition of the bridge from kherson, serhii nikitenko, and we

will talk, of course, about what is happening in this region, congratulations, mr. serhii, we congratulate you well, let's start with the promotion and what can we do in general, let's talk about the preliminary results of this disaster, how the russian kakhovskoe hpp was arranged. well, i'm not sure that we can already summarize, but such intermediate results , yes, they know the intermediate results for the kherson region, eh, well, it's a little ambiguous, on the one hand, eh, we refrained. yes, and kherson held back and the government held back from that side. well, the temporary project demonstrated that it was not ready for a man-made, that is, catastrophe, that is , they are so very, very good, two high-quality regiments, sergey

. did you personally see any international missions of the un red cross, maybe rescuers from other countries who sent us boats or manpower to help save people from the kherson region. i saw the red cross of ukraine and today on the mykolaiv highway i see a cold uh-uh, i thought it was also in red res ukraine uh- today there was a delegation from the united nations in kherson, i am not their father , we have met in person, we have already gone, well , they say that they saw my colleagues, that is, regarding the boating, i did not see another one because, uh, more than anything what i saw was provided by volunteers, by some official odessa organizations or simply by private individuals on the first day. i saw the removal of people, let's say simply on private boats, simply on

fishing bees. as far as, in principle , we can talk about the fact that kherson has lost its place in a certain area that will have to be restored after this flood, so i want to say the indicator by size is not very much, well, it is big. yes, so that the people of kyiv would understand this. approximately it is very similar, uh, the whole microdistrict and uh, and it’s not just a residential building there - it’s high-rise buildings, big houses , uh, hmm, in principle, uh, it’s kherson itself, so partly kherson is flooded there in the sumy microdistrict, and it’s partly an enthusiastic attempt, well, that

is do you understand? well, kherson community, or it seems to me. it’s just that all the losses that you and i can’t realize even for ourselves, because we still don’t know what happened on the left bank. how do you know that the left bank is much in the city for the right? that’s why everyone unfortunately, olezhki gola is waiting for us there the port of taras burivska fishing in the torso and cossack camps is crimean. that is, all the national points are large. you are the points that are on the left bank, mr. sergiu. regarding the left bank, the russian occupier, first of all, did not allow our volunteers to evacuate people and even check whether there are those citizens, those local residents, have russian passports, only then they could let volunteers in so that those people could be saved, or how many such

people were saved from the left bank, i do not comment in the rescue operation on the left bank. i don't know anything about what they are saying. i don't see it. i haven't personally heard any witnesses who saw it personally. well, most of what we've heard now about the left bank. unfortunately, these are fabrications and manipulations , so i wouldn't spread them further. uh, russian passports too, well, i didn't see him. he didn't talk to people. although i talked to several people after they were removed from the left bank, i won't say where from when, and they didn't say that, they saw the russians of the boat, but uh, not about the russian passport. receiving told no about everything you say. well, it seems to me that it’s a little bit. you know the thickening of the paint. who evacuated these people about

whom you say, i can’t say that. that is, is it the ukrainian side or the russian side, you too, it’s the ukrainian church , you can say action. to kherson yes well, apparently i, well, i am not commenting on everything that is happening now on the left bank . how is this something at all, something that can’t be solved by one’s head , well, i, uh, well, sometimes i sometimes have such attacks, light attacks of trying to recognize what they are doing, yes, but , as a rule, it ends hutsuls because well, it is, uh, no

it's a good thing to think about what the russians are thinking. well, it seems. well, they don't . well, they all have goals , let's say that these people don't like them. it would be easier because it is stronger. i think that they are. well, i explain to myself that they think so, and it seems to me that's all. yes, mr. sergey. is humanitarian aid enough from what you see, because i honestly personally wanted to send things to kherson by nova poshta today. yes , it is. there is a whole charitable organization that deals with this and i was told at the kherson branch that it is no longer needed , it is no longer humanitarian aid , the limit has been exceeded and they have been sent to the donetsk region, do people really have enough there? well, from

what i see on many evacuations there it was very different. now, on the video, you can see more of such items. i understand that this is the morning of 7, it was already june, when there were not many people , but you see people being given food. there, i see how people are being given shift kits. on blankets so, i don’t, well, honestly, i don’t have any information about the needs at all, but from what i see, how many things drive in and drive into the injectors , you can’t be a moose. well, i would believe that nothing is needed anymore, that’s how i understand. so, i talked yesterday with representatives of one respectable

charity organization, i understand that now it will not be necessary to focus on helping the rescuers, now they often hand them over because, er, well, what have we formulated so that now those who know how to work, and not those who want to, will therefore give help to the rescuers to the military and the policemen who are engaged in uh well, we will have to pump out the water, we will need pumps, the boatmen who were shouting there need something kherson doesn't need that much anymore , that is, volunteers, you did the first day , well, everything you could and everything that was needed and thank you very much for telling us about the current social situation. nikitenko, the editor-in-chief of the ministry of health published by us directly from kherson . we are so happy to hear that there is enough of everything, even boats, because they were the first to collect funds for volunteers in the first days. thank you to everyone. who is evacuating people and animals now, i was for the animals

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their support of our euro-atlantic integration . this was reported in the president's office, and mr. vitaliyovych is actually curious about why he came to kyiv with such an unannounced visit to express his condolences to us about the blowing up of the kakhovka hpp well, first of all there were no more announced visits to kyiv. because all western leaders make their way to kyiv with so-called announced visits, i would not look for any special reasons here , because these visits are usually planned in advance , maybe months, maybe a week, so they are not reported in order to follow that protocol of security that exists for the leaders of the leading countries of the west and the global south in a situation where their security is concerned, you will see that when, say, the president of african countries arrives in kyiv in the city of which today, the president of the south african republic of sitila gramofosa announced that their trip will be known in advance. but they are not only going to kyiv, they will also go to moscow to meet

with the president of russia, vladimir putin, so they can more or less calmly feel that they are safe. does the general director have he also says that he will come when he comes because he coordinates his trip with both sides and if you do not inform moscow, then you need to go so that moscow does not want to do you some mischief for so that they implicate people who live in kyiv. this is also an important point. you will understand that there is such a thing. you know, we can plan a rocket launch this very day, when trudeau will be there , so valery chaly is in touch with us , a diplomat, the former ambassador of ukraine to the united states. congratulations, mr. volodymy re congratulations to you glory to ukraine , what can we say about this logic of talks about joining nato on the eve of vilnius, on the one hand , there is no special progress, on the other hand, everyone says who can, that they support us in

this introduction, even though they are on the seventh they are even trying to give some real signals as to what this means, it means only one thing that the war is in its hot phase, it is, in principle , reaching its climax somewhere and everyone is waiting for the result on the fronts, let's be honest , no one wants to enter the stage when it is necessary to strengthen ukraine as much as possible and to win, for some reason everyone says this phrase , it surprises me. so when ukraine demonstrates that it will be able to defeat russia, then we will accept ukraine into nato, well, it looks like a rather strange phrase, but in fact, this phrase, the main position is that we are ready, in principle, we will be ready to accept ukraine politically in the event that it becomes clear that russia will not

pose a threat in the next 10-15 years, and this is a paradox. that is, we also want to have a cal signal now strong, that's why i know today's statement to canada prime minister and olena zelensky signed a joint statement there new formula ukraine will be a member of nato when there will be conditions for this, i will remind you that the bucharest website said that ukraine will be a member of nato now when the conditions are there i.e. let's then move on to the formula we invite the country to nato and we will start all the procedures and the ratification procedures for joining when there are conditions, well, that would be kind of clear. and that's how it actually looks, it looks like always, unfortunately, no one looks

two steps ahead, our deputy the minister of defense of ukraine, volodymyr gavrilo , is convinced that at the summit in vilnius , we will be given the entry algorithm directly , what is he talking about at all, valery, what kind of entry algorithm can it be despite the fact that i know very well at home, he said, he is a smart general, we worked together in washington, i don't know what he is talking about. well, maybe it is some kind of conditions, which you said that when the war ends, it is not the task of the deputy minister to declare any positions, the position i heard from the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi, it is clear , that is, that there should be an invitation of ukraine to nato , we understand that we will not join now, but a political decision must be made, which

algorithms are in question, i do not know at all, i believe that there should not be a cacophony of statements, i heard five different positions , this does not apply to personnel, i am simply telling you five different positions of officials of ukraine, what we expect from free people, you personally expect nothing, i do not work in state structures, so i can afford to say e- realistic things, one should always try to get the maximum , it is clear, and the political position of the president is correct now, so we have either vilnius or washington at the most next year, on the anniversary alone, to receive an invitation again from the invitation to admission can come more than one year, one year of finland is a record so quickly, no one performed all the internal states of the procedures in all countries , now in fact we are waiting for sweden, then i really

want ukraine to be the 33rd, which means that it is 32 countries. that is, it takes time it is very, very important that a political solution is formed. i absolutely do not think that it is necessary to discuss all these details instead of the commission. the council of ukraine, nato, that this will advance our cooperation in such a way that we will go to nato with grandiose steps in seven minutes, that's all . well, let's be honest with you. it there will be absolutely no deepening of the mechanisms, it was possible to do it gradually before, in principle , we did it for many years, the military did its job , its politicians, its society united significantly outside nato countries, they are not ready, i understand , but according to the words, with those what was said before yes in bucharest even though the diplomats

understand that every word brings the result closer but i think that now uh well, it is really very important to understand the timing, that is, the time frame, and the time frame is such that if you do not give putin now a clear signal right now, when there is an offensive on the front. if there is no such clear signal now, this is a bold step, i understand that there are risks, but this boldness is political. it has to come to someone's head somehow, because well, this is leadership, this is a vision two steps ahead, well, you understand that everything is very simple, that for nato countries, if they even receive a buffer zone for two years at the expense of ukraine , then everything will come to their house, and now it is necessary to simply strengthen the position to step forward putin. that's all, i've been saying for a long time that this works. i say this not because it's an emotion, but because i know as an analyst. i know as a person who

has worked. that is, we need to take a step forward or are we ready? they will do everything. some countries are ready for things, as there are not so many of these countries. of course, these are our neighbors, they understand this. touch on it even more closely, so i won't say what i expect, we just need to work in the direction of the maximum result at the summit, but one thing must be understood. if we are going to spray our efforts somewhere on security guarantees , somewhere there, the council, let's turn the council into a commission let's come up with an algo. well, we'll come up with one. that is, it sounds beautiful, but so far it's just words, empty words, there is no political solution for today. there is still time and we need to do it. all of us, and i , try to do it in order to get the maximum result. and tell me about this meeting , which will be on monday, the meeting of the president of france, the president of poland, and the federal chancellor of germany. it may lead to some new results from the point of view

of the discussion of ukrainian euro-atlantic prospects under the pre-vilnovist right there, or is it just a tribute to such i would say of protocol diplomacy, i don't think it's a protocol because, in principle, poland is more interested, well, poland, in principle , is close to the position that ukraine should be a member of nato because it covers poland. therefore, it will strengthen, but the casting of germany. i think he wants to call putin again, well, such a message there was mass information in this regard , i don't know what it means, well, we may have a conversation between the presidents of ukraine and poland , it will be clear, it seems that tomorrow is planned. this conversation will be clear, what will happen there i do not expect any breakthrough there, but i definitely understand that without the position of germany , france, well, just like poland and great britain and the usa , the issue will not be resolved in the first place . we can talk about all countries, we understand that

the decision depends on each country, but if the usa, france, germany, britain the decision was made by poland, yes, then i think it will go very quickly politically, and it is interesting if 20 nato countries already support us, it means that we have advanced in this year and a half, in particular, the full-scale war of russia against ukraine to of our euro-atlantic integration, do you still think that we work very moderately on this flank, you know, now is the time when you can't speak moderately actively, it's a qualitative transition when you become a member of the security and defense union in europe and that's what i am nato well euro-atlantic but in europe it also provides security, then you share the risks with everyone. and now there is one individual. we will restrain russia. therefore, it is a quality transition

, at what stage will it take place? and i am still an optimist and believe that there are smart people there, well, i know what military quite practically and they analyze everything pragmatically, i know that many military even in those countries of the alliance where the politicians are undecided, they are in favor of this , that is, they are confident that this way there will be less expenses in the security sphere. well, they will receive what they did not have before. let's be honest, which country or army in europe, put a million people under the gun who are ready to die for their country for european security, i will tell you frankly, not a single one today, not a single one will be ready for so many people to go to fight to the death for their country and for european security, not even poland yet. although i think

the poles and the baltic countries, they understand this danger more, and the slovaks, but they do not have such a number, therefore, without such a contribution to security in europe, europe cannot defend itself, nor can it defend itself from non-nuclear american weapons. although the french have britain, but american a powerful number and seeds, that is, everything is united, i just want to tell you one thing , i won't say that uh, well, let's say that vilnius will be if the final decision is not made there, it's right uh, it's not like that here, in principle, the situation is dynamic changes i at all if honestly, i consider washington to be more realistic. but if you reduce the momentum of the pressure and do not hit one point with joint efforts, then you will not achieve the result, this was already shown by our progress on the visa-free regime with the eu and obtaining candidate status. that is, it was also considered politically impossible, and then it

was the conditions of creation were implemented, internal reforms were carried out, your homework has been completed, and therefore, if it happens, then if it is against one country well, what do you think now? i know, we'll see. time will tell, but yes, in principle, all other countries can be convinced. i'm an optimist, and if it's about freedom, then washington. we must achieve this political result. what kind of country is the united states of america ? hungary thinks that the united states of america is not such a country. that the united states is not ready for a decision now, unfortunately. although they were ready in bucharest in 2008, and djorjush came to kyiv, and it was a political decision, there is

no such decision now. will also become an argument for joseph biden in the pre-election period, we will see, that is, all elections are influenced by politicians, unfortunately, no one looks 10 years ahead except for people who sit in such closed rooms and draw plans, but they are precisely these people who understand that the country of ukraine in nato is more a reliable security system in europe or ukraine to the outside , what is the buffer for the gray zone between russia and the russian federation? was rather weak and international organizations did not immediately volunteer to come to our aid and western partners , if we are talking about coverage in the mass media, after all, there are very ambiguous statements, there is no specific accusation against russia, is it possible for 472 days of a full-scale war of russia against ukraine and

the ninth year of the war, in fact, it is such an ambiguity to express and give the opportunity to express the position of russia , allegedly, and ukraine, who is ukraine the aggressor ? it is evening out a bit, but i will tell you honestly, i don’t know what happened so that this information situation was exactly like this. i don’t have the full amount of information, but one thing is obvious to me: as an international penetration, i will say that if the occupier on the territory of another country of the occupied territory is mined by an infrastructural object the object that is a threat is already a violation, not just a violation, it becomes responsible for everything that will happen to this object completely. i believe

that not only zahidna, but also our reaction was sluggish. so we lost, let's be honest, it's not the first time in recent years, in fact, why our partners did not receive or did not want to use all the intelligence information, although you understand that such things are explosions, space observations. moreover, without even resorting to any kind of investigation , although it seems that sooner or later it will have to be done , because then this is the roof of genocide and it is necessary to understand that there are protocols to the 56th geneva convention to the first protocol, paragraph 15 to the second of the protocol, that is, no matter how