[000:00:00;00] as with the left bank of the dnieper, you can calm down in good faith at the stage when we do not control these territories. and if we will control these territories and not control the zaporizhzhia axis, it is the same thing. you algorithm of actions should work like this. the state is simple. but if we want to work simply through interviews and appeals and challenges, then we will work in a different river, what will you do here? well, i say all the time that politicians should not replace journalists with themselves, but absolutely in italy, something, i think we have laid out everything on the shelves of the kakhova hpp in relation to the undermining by the russians and our hydroelectric power plants, unfortunately, the consequences are significant and all the experts are talking about it. however, we will be able to assess them for sure

. now a new ecological disaster has come, the destruction of kakhovsk , the next question number three arises. and what to do next or build a new one later when you have one if there is such an opportunity, we need to think about some other water supply regime. and how did all these cities live that receive water by taking water from the kakhovka resources, first of all, kryvyi rih nikopol well, they somehow lived without this water, they were big cities well, i can say that there was no such industry there. well, it means that you have to accept for yourself that there will not be such an industry, which is there at least for the next decade, or should you also realize this and solve the issue of the development of these cities based on their capabilities provide jobs to its residents or develop a different economy there. well, you can’t do anything here. we understand very well that without

a large amount of water, large enterprises cannot work. this is the alpha and omega that, uh, in order for a certain amount of population to be in a certain place, appropriate water is also needed resources, if there are no water resources in principle, then the city will be developed where they are, it does not sound very pleasant, but it is just such a simple logic. well, there are general recommendations of doctors and experts the field of medicine, which can still affect, since this is an ecological disaster for your and our health, if we do not take care , there are such general standard recommendations : do not drink water from the tap; handle them well, wash your hands constantly, that is, such general recommendations that we are used to even during the coronavirus, it is interesting that in ukraine

you can drink water from a stand, taking into account the fact that most of our water pipes are not repaired with the times of the russian empire, so i will not just say no. drink the water from the tap in the room several times, now once is not enough, at least that's how the doctors tell themselves what can get into this dnieper water from kakhovsky, we can already see what's there . unfortunately, the dead coffins are also floating because the cemetery is conversational and dead animals are there, there are a lot of infections , it can no longer be used, another danger. let's move on to the next topic. vitalii nato. the main message is that there is no need to expect anything because not all nato members are ready for ukraine to join now, at least

an invitation to give us some prospect of joining in 10-15-20 years. then i don't know what we can count on in general firstly, the situation is changing quite quickly, various international events, and secondly, i believe that the country needs and not just joining nato, or ukraine needs an invitation to nato and with security guarantees that will be provided by leading countries that have nuclear weapons in fact the most important from what do our allies have to protect us from the possibility of a nuclear attack, this is the essence of history, because if russia knows that it cannot launch a nuclear attack on our territory, because it can meet with the joint reaction of other countries that have nuclear weapons, it will behave differently if

there will be no such misunderstanding. so everyone will always be very careful in this war, fearing that russia will launch a nuclear strike. let's not be naive. when they say that the war cannot be forgotten, it was fought on the territory of russia, which should be only within the borders of ukraine that there can be no actions that will lead to escalation. you hear all these forms, it means a simple thing. we do not want this war to lead to the use of nuclear weapons by a nuclear state against a non-nuclear state, because we do not know what to do after that, we do not have an algorithm of actions and if we even have an action algorithm, it is so terrible that we do not want to use it and we do not know whether we will use it, and this is a recipe for the continuation of the russian-ukrainian war in the coming years, because if russia knows it, it knows

that nothing will be real for her, then she can access retreat leave territories conquer territory stop everything freeze thaw we haven't stopped being cats . and you want us from this, that we are not a nuclear state, we haven't stopped being mice, so in order for us to stop being mice, we need to get guarantees of the impossibility of using a nuclear strike on in our territory, this is what turns us into a cat. and so you can put a fairy tale on this mouse, give it modern weapons, arm it with everything that other cats have, who just sit there behind the door and watch so as not to meet this cat because she has a headache, but

we do not become cats without it, we are just a mouse who has put on all this ammunition of cats and that is the essence of our problem and what makes this conflict existential because everyone tells us not well of course you free your territories but god forbid no no no no oh we we condemn what is happening in belgorod oblast if for the sake of why don't you condemn what is happening in kherson when from the russian point of view it is the territory of russia, and you are already condemning belgorod oblast because we have such a reaction algorithm, an algorithm of actions , and we have decided for ourselves that russia will not apply nuclear weapons if they will be on the common territory, the so-called, but on the free territory, which is definitely russian. so they can do anything. stop, you know, if we stop in russia, there is a huge territory where you can train troops where you can produce projectiles where you can produce rockets well, well, what should we do in this situation, the right thing to do is what does it mean, valeriy

said that the only country that resists in this is hungary hungary, as you know , hungary cannot do anything on its own the donation began in finland exactly at that moment, while turkey was against it, as soon as the turkish parliament votes voted for finland, hungary did the same, i assure you that as soon as the turkish parliament will vote for sweden and hungary either a week before that or a week after that and will make the appropriate decision if all the member countries are too in favor of the accession of ukraine , no hungary will interfere with this , moreover, you understand that viktor orbana has several pillars of support with which he does not want to say goodbye, it is not only vladimir putin . this recipe is because, together with aldogan, orban is creating a certain axis of such and such a policy in the north atlantic union. it is no coincidence that orban goes to the summits of the leaders of this language

countries, although i will tell you in secret, philologically, there is such a thing that the hungarian language is turkic. well, this has happened since ancient times, but he has a place there because he wants to be among these politicians . but if we catch him, he says uh, i'm sorry, but we're for ukraine, we have hungary, not hungary, there's no card with which to beat this ace, we just need to convince erdoğan, we need to convince the united states of america, our main problem - this is the united states of america, they seem to be yes, but not now, yes, but not now, and we don’t even need any road map and don’t- i think that this position is mistaken, this is a position of prolonging the conflict, this is a position that says

that let’s boil this frog on moderate heat and then it will boil and not notice. as you can see, the frog notices everything, the frog has already blown up the kakhovka hydroelectric power station , it does not boil, it jumps like me with its youth, it plots one tragedy after another, and then there is one more problem, even if we say that the problem is not that it is such a crime and is ready to raise the bar, but in fact we would like to settle something , but i don't know how, the problem is that any long war leads to such things as we are now observing, well, this is the logic of war during war and this is not a football match , you cannot predict how these or other events will develop, any logistical or technical error can lead to a disaster more than the disasters on the kakhovsky hryadka, you know

when we drag out this war, we talk about it all the time in principle, we say and repeat, and we are prolonging this war not on the territory of ukraine and russia, but exclusively on the territory of ukraine , that is, the ukrainians are paying for the prolongation of this war, and on the territory of the russian federation, with the exception of a few districts of the belgorod region, nothing is happening, well, some drone got into a house in voronyi well, it will be good if drones hit some russian houses in russian houses and without our drones, something is somehow not very good ukraine is doing officially well, it does not matter even if it was done officially in ukraine, our ability to act on the territory of russia, even politically, is different from the ability of russia to act on our territory in that it will dictate what is happening, that is why i say i do not think that we will receive any algorithm of actions at the vilnius summit that our

the western partners want to find some way to not take us to nato, but something for us, some piece of paper or something to give us in the western partners want a very simple thing, in this you are not very different from the ukrainians they want the war to end and that there is no need to take risks. this is our position until 2022. you know how a man who does not want to get married says let's live in a civil marriage. that stamp in the passport is in a civil marriage with putin in the same family, so he must understand that putin will be brought into this civil marriage, a man or a woman does not matter, because he will not bear it, because he will be the head of the court who will judge himself for his crime, you know how in andersen's fairy tales there were such trials, so that's all eh

completely meaningless in this plan of history which i didn't understand honestly. i'll say it because i thought, tell me, really , i wouldn't have used some political formulas at all . i didn't use the formula ukraine will definitely become a member of nato after the war, which all our friends are happy to use, oh, after the war, yes, yes immediately, the russians hear this formula, which means they understand that if they cannot stop this process , they will continue the war by continuing the war, these are dangerous words, but the words are that we are ready to accept ukraine into nato despite continuation of hostilities in parts and territories are words that compel victory. can we talk to you, president macron and chancellor scholz, what do you mean? how are you ready to participate in hostilities, and what is meant is the territory on which there are no hostilities. so we are not

we can fire at it, what do you say, there will be appropriate actions from your side on our military facilities, interesting information, we take it into account. ugh , movements are starting because the meaning of continuing the war is already changing, of course, because we understand there in the kremlin that we can to continue the war only in a certain territory and we start to think or we sit down and talk at the security council of the russian federation and we are ready for a nuclear conflict, do we need it at all in this situation, can we destabilize this country internally than risk such things and then the next question arises, comrade naryshkin and we need to maintain control over these territories, in this case, if they are not a bridgehead, but simply a zone where we reach from this ukrainian army, we can leave some territories for us in this situation, they are also for us

are not strategically important from the point of view of further actions to show good will and it is obvious that this is such a sketch of this conversation, but this is what the russians are starting to talk about, and if you are told by tanin, ukraine will not be a member of oil now, you do not even think so they think well, it is good if it will not be a member of nato, it means that we must continue to fight and use the territories already occupied by us as a bridgehead . especially since you understand that this is the same prize that allows you to have manpower without significantly worsening the social and political situation in russia itself. we occupied donetsk and luhansk regions, there is still no mobilization for the russian armed forces, so we can absolutely calmly kill ukrainians themselves with the hands of ukrainians, then in what situation are we ? let's let the boys and men who live there live in russia, where we will give them russian passports, take away their russian army, let

them go and fight against the ukrainians, and how long you can fight, even mobilization is possible. russia itself should not conduct, even covertly, simply use ukrainian citizens who have russian passports, it is not a question of whether they take them, no one will ask here , you will not understand in a state where there is such a state of martial law as if there were guns for meat. well, we do not have great results here. we will get ukraine, of course, we will not destroy, of course, we will not turn ukraine into our satellite , we will simply continue military actions so that it is not taken into nato, the task is a minimum for what, and then we will see if the government will change in the united states, in france, in germany, maybe in france the picture will win, why don't we wait, if i know that i am putin and i am going to be the president of russia until 2036, how old will president biden be in 2036, you know how old he is, 96, well, great, so we will outlive

president biden, the truth is, 96 and how old will president trump be in the 36th year is now 76 years old, 90, so it means that all these people will not be there, only all the other people of macron's term of office are ending. well, i 'm not talking about the terms of obyden, there can be only one term, but it's a ramp, even if he will win only two i don't even know two or one it's a very good question for the american law if you lose put can be two more terms or not can there be only one well relatively speaking that is we are waiting the german government can er give in to some other political i can do it. and the rating of the parties is increasing. it is an alternative for germany. not only now , the ratings of far-right parties are increasing all over europe, from

portugal to poland, because the economic situation is deteriorating due to the fact that he is from ukraine. it is obvious and how i wanted it to be so that it could not if you spend so much money to support your economy after the pandemic and here the issue is war , migration, the need for military aid and the crisis with energy resources. the locomotive is germany, which has this crisis because germany is forced to present itself for gas, which is much more expensive than the russian pipeline before the war. the development of any economy and that is why boxing is growing, nationalists are simply focused more on domestic politics and promises are made to journalists, you can take money from the cream of the crop, and

all these parties, the confederation of independent poland , vox in spain, the marine lippin party in france , the league of salvini, which receive new and new supporters that we now simply sigh with relief when we learn that somewhere this offensive was stopped, for example in greece where many were afraid of it, for example it happened in estonia where many were afraid that the far-right will come to power in a completely different order, where this did not happen to us regarding aid to ukraine, that is, every time we just sigh with relief, but look at what happened in bulgaria, let's use a great example: the pro-russian party improved its representation in the parliament with each election, so analysts said that if there will be another early election, they will simply come to power and then two parties

, one of which we wanted to deal with the other because we called them vile corruptors and people of the old school and everyone in the world, and we are new faces, we are from the new world, and so on , they went to form a coalition in which they will even change the prime minister, they don't even want to sit together in the same river , let's say it will be yours, people have nine months, then your people, then the place, then our people in the city. well, it's the same as the fact that now the servants of the people have created a beetroot with european solidarity and said that for nine months , let's say yarmak, will be the prime minister, and for the next nine, poroshenko and by the way, i will say by the way that it will be like that of course well, after the next parliamentary elections, of course, because after the next parliamentary elections, these forces will have a simple choice either to form such a government or to allow the so-called peace party to power, whose slogan will be improved relations with moscow, this party will have such a representation in the parliament

that in order for volodymyr zelenskyi's supporter to save himself politically, they will have to negotiate with petro poroshenko and, on the contrary , create an equal situation like in bulgaria, because this party of peace will not be to say what kind of union from moscow is this government that has led to such a situation, we are a conditional party of an aristocrat, a party of an aristocrat to arrest zelensky, it will be called that, so maybe he already wants to be the president. he cannot be the president of such a ukraine as georgia is now , and he can have support a huge number of our compatriots after the war , i can even convince you of this. yes , and it will continue to increase. you must understand that ukrainian society has not changed much during these months. to the electorate of those who are not very patriotic, who are there for the russian language, it is not all shown that friendship with russia, who thinks that this is the government, so wants to put their eggs in different baskets, but

bulgarian president rumed radio, who is also essentially the same type of politician as our leaders, he is he is leaning towards moscow, but not in such a way as to openly say so, and he was absolutely fine with these pro-russian forces, but he absolutely did not want them to come to power, because they largely have a political program that contradicts his own program, he did not want them to depend, but with his moderate position in relation to moscow, he, as a person of authority in society, provoked the strengthening of these pro-russian sentiments, and this is what happens very often with people who use their authority not to cure society of any disease, but to maintain power for, if you want, exploitation complexes actually to a compatriot, what happened in bulgaria, what happened in georgia can happen at any moment after the war, it should be

this in our country, it became easy to understand and we can somehow prevent this process because these are processes that will be the result of the shock that people experience during the war, it's just that they will react differently politically to this shock, it is necessary to understand that now society is just living the last of the narcosis and when the narcosis wears off everyone it will hurt in different ways, it will hurt different organs that have read, in principle, it is possible that this is the wrong answer, that it is not possible, we have to work as a society, and again, another important recipe to prevent such uh-uh things, this national unity is not an attempt by certain political forces that are afraid of losing the majority, to receive a huge number of questions after the war, to destroy competitors already today . and this is the understanding of these political forces and their leaders, starting to find a representative of the state, that only the consolidation of political forces

of a democratic national orientation promises those who are in power today at least free life i don't say water conservation because i believe that if people come to power with an e-e orientation towards peace and moderation, they will imprison them for 10 years and by the way, so that all these thoughts of mine are not considered schizophrenic, i will then ask one question. and where, i apologize , is the president of the republic of georgia, mykhailo saakashvili, in prison ? the kremlin for mykhailo saakashvili, who was ready to resist their violent actions against georgia . saakashvili can be treated differently, he is a complex person with an authoritarian streak, and

zelenskyi can be treated differently by many. we are not talking about that. we are talking about the fact that zelensky is a symbol of how ukraine today resists russian aggression , who are the other people who are responsible for this sector of resistance today , and this means that these political forces who want to change the vector from resistance to finding a balance with all neighbors in order to prevent more of it especially since we are not being taken anywhere so far , they can consider that a good reward for russia so that it does not do anything bad again will be the imprisonment of those people who fought with moscow

they will find corruption for the abuse of various official decisions, and it seems to me that, taking into account the experience of mikheil saakashvili, the current president should not think about preserving power after the war , but about preserving freedom after the war. preserve freedom, prevent anti-patriotic forces from coming to power. and how will anti-patriotic forces be allowed to come to power in the conditions of the forecast, do not quarrel with the patriotic ones, absolutely, it is simple and that not a proposal, because oh, let's all be, uh, we will also suffer from these consequences . people of national-democratic , patriotic, attitudes and views will also suffer from this short-sightedness of the current government , therefore it is a common task for us to prevent the renaissance of those who see the future of ukraine exclusively in парадиг мягкая разница a какая разница, they defended the country just because the peace was

good, this statement was one step to finding a common language with the president of the russian federation, not vladimir putin by the way, sometimes russia attacked georgia. vladimir putin was not even the president of the russian federation. well, he was the prime minister. yes, vitaly. by the way, with putin, what is going on with him? why does he not want to talk to his beloved people with him? a direct line to the question to answer i think that you are spitting on this people now from a high bell tower he really liked that kind of talk about nothing right loved talking about what when these talked about what was an important part in the existence of the regime when it was an authoritarian regime connected with the people, by a social agreement, the right to money, the petrodollar, and the leader of such a regime likes to talk to people because they say, oh, thank you for everything i own, nadeevich, put a christmas tree, please, on the central square, oh

, i have no water in my possession, tell the governor to speak water, vladimir речь thank you за всё вы такой общее замечательно oh, how lucky we are in the presidency , oh vladimir vladimirovich, the sun, you are ours , it’s nice to sit. but if you don’t have oil dollars, but there are power structures to put these people, if they don’t like you, on 25 years old why not waste your time let the sand talk to them i think that this is just the next level of the development of the dictatorship there are dictators who like to talk to people and appear on balconies, relatively speaking , there are dictators like mussolin who have been seen several times by their compatriots 30 years of their rule , and while there is the portuguese dictator salazar , because you understand the different needs of the regime , simply putin’s regime has moved to the phase of anonymous rule, when we don’t even know

putin, no, putin, the double, the double, the double left. he left when it doesn't matter what he says and it seems to me that he is just in this state i am not talking about the fact that you do not forget that we are talking about a person who was over 50 years old and who liked to sit for six hours at press conferences and now we are talking about a person who is about 70 years old. i am just a pinterest person, about whom, by the way, we also never knew anything about him, his family, daughters, grandchildren . yes, in that gelindzhik, his castle is there, these are for striptease. what is the name of the pylons , normal for a boy, this is fsb. i will tell you this this is exactly what it says about the real personal level of this person who just sits and looks at the pylon, that's all the whole dream, life has finally come true. thank you , angelica , for this, such an incredible authoritarian personality

is involved. thank you, mr. vitaliy, very much for the wonderful broadcast . anzhelika sezonenko and vitaliy. and we will now pass the floor to our colleague iryna koval, who will introduce you to the big news release, as usual today, iryna, please, good evening congratulations. the next 30 minutes will be about the most important events of this week, so stay tuned. what is the threat to ukraine and the world from the explosion of the kakhova hpp?