[000:00:00;00] knives, we didn't climb anywhere carefully, your curiosity will kill you. it seems to me that in kherson it is not clear how much is still buried under this very thing. they are here forever. people still hang all their posters. funny russia here forever forever russia here yes, that is , they also had an event here yes here you can imagine how we piled up here. what are we? in short, it’s the same because this was their position, they had solar panels or something, they removed the panels from the houses and dragged this one here, yes, they tried

to adjust them somehow, let’s go. well, for sure, yes. behind the scenes there was some understanding of how many of them were here, and in fact no one counted them. i wonder how these reports are made, how many were destroyed, and no, not by eye, er, this happens every day, but now it’s july, so it’s possible to reflect, i’m video recording for example, the same mavics there or something else and something else and something else, by which you do this, let's say i'll tell you from there , you can't just say that you killed a dozen there, that is, it usually goes by technique

, you know, they knocked out tanks there you understand in fact, there are three crew there. three men are here, our guys died here, and they were killed with a vacuum cleaner. they landed here, and accordingly, these trees survived two waves there, first our wave, then their wave. and since they have much more, because the trees were still there well, they already knew these positions very well, that is, when he again returned to the fact that i am satellites from the eu . there are drones and left, let's go if you are sitting in that landing. here, please, here it is. and now, once again , we need they defend themselves and us you need to go into that landing and destroy it, you understand what it is and you, again , you don’t know that this field is mined or not, do you know that the field needs to be crossed to knock them out of there, this is

the liberation of kherson that we are talking about and this is how every landing every field every one means when we talk about what per kilometer in total per kilometer on the map it is not visible this field well they took one field i know how many of these flights on the plane right you saw all the fields yes you can imagine it was shorter a small square on the world stage it doesn't mean anything. but it's a small drop that could have contributed to the fact that kherson

. even if something is signed there, some measures, everything else is a temporary phenomenon, how temporary, for a year , for two, for five, i don't understand, but it will return, this is russia there in 10 years, in 20 years, and after 20 years, we should not relax, we should do everything that our the army was professional. so that our army was young, that's because now there are 40, 50, and 60-year-olds fighting there, despite the fact that there is a 50-year-old who is better than a 20-year-old soldier. and they are already there, you know . well, they can't because they value their lives. they value life so much in their subordinates and everything else well, what do you consider this collapse of russia to be our final victory, and what is the conversation in russia, it is falling apart, re-registration among themselves, there the re-singers will quarrel, then unite and attack us again, this was in the 17th year, remember i think they had the collapse of russia

once already, the tsar was killed there, the communists came and what happened to them, these communists came to ukraine again, that is, they will collapse, they will fall, they will have the destruction of that country, they have a bident, the poor will again see what the neighbor lives very nicely with him cherry orchard around the house yes white house oh let's go to him and rob him and join him to ourselves and use his resources, that's the way they live in the long run, but we don't learn from it we do not make these mistakes to be so strong that they don't even think to look behind our fence, because they understand that we will immediately kick them in the teeth and let them know that they can be there near siberia , you understand uhu well oh oh and everyone must work on this, the enterprise must work to raise the economy, journalists must work to bring this opinion to everyone's ears, the military must work , everyone around must work to unite the nation

, teachers must work first of all, you know, to raise children those who live here now, you can’t re-educate them if they have seen everything there, yes, and they want the soviet union, and even after russia came, they didn’t see the soviet union again, they will still shout that the russians are beautiful. and what are they doing ? the russians, they are first bringing the army to kherson, yes, and then teachers right away. and we need to work on this, we need our teachers to conduct patriotic education, not just there. i ticked the diary that i conducted theoretical education we now need to work on getting 10 to 12 years, 15 years, they owned weapons professionally, that is, no, they learned that , they learned robotics, they learned to operate drones there, they learned to be a soldier , they were very ready for the fact that okay, there is no war, great, they went into business they are much stronger. they know their value and everything else because they have all-powerful weapons. and i used to go to all these circles. i went

to modeling there, aircraft modeling, car modeling, everything else. and look at it to me it has come in handy. you can imagine that i am now making machines that can mine, making machines that can demine, making machines that drive there , collect drones instead of knowing that when the mother fell, so that he did not go there, for example , a person in the field, and a car drove and took it away, and this is the future of our army but still, returning to the question of what will be our final victory when the country is united is ours, and the final victory is when we bring order to our country, this is the final victory that we will drive them back to the border or somewhere next well, what is a victory, it is the collapse of another country, well, the defeat of other countries, i don't think that our troops will enter moscow well, i don't see this realistic picture that we went to moscow on tanks and why are you in moscow, it is possible some kind

of well, the collapse of their there political tops maybe there is something else, not experts and not predicting all these events. our victory, personally, my victory, when strong people will come to power in our country, who will live according to honor and conscience, it's cool . we had a great shooting today. we went to the position where it started actual deoccupation kherson and these positions are 50 km from kherson, and in fact, square by square, the liberation of tavria and the sea took place. and it is actually clear that each and every unit liberated some of its own small pieces. so gradually, gradually , the liberation of this territory took place, but we filmed it and are showing it to you for that

so that there was an understanding of how difficult it was, how difficult the battles were, how difficult the operation was here, because in fact, this is an open field that is quite difficult to pass through without being noticed, to pass so as to knock them out uh, from their positions, which they established in the spring, and that is why it took quite a long time from the announcement of the liberation of the south to the actual de-occupation of kherson, and there are very cool guys working here and girls who are basically everywhere, and yesterday we talked to one of the former golden eagles who hanged the flag on oda. you are definitely a ukrainian, yes, soldiers, yes, tell

me with the palyanits, the palyanitsa, what can you do with the flag than the ego flag, today they were other guys from bila tserkva who are engaged

in intelligence and aerial reconnaissance, and well, they are all different but everyone is fantastically motivated to drive us out of our territories. i congratulate you on the espresso channel. on june 6, the russians blew up the dam of the kakhovskaya yegis in the kherson region. currently, this is one of the biggest war crimes of the russian federation. dozens of settlements in ukraine , in particular, the city of kherson, are now suffering from flooding. this crime will lead to the ecocide of huge economic losses and the displacement of thousands of people, at the same time, there are grounds to claim that this disaster was caused by enemies and is also the beginning of a new stage of russia's war against ukraine why is this so, what can be expected from the aggressor in the chain of escalation and how the world reacts to it, we will talk about it with expertise as guests in our program, my name is serhiy zgorytskyi, i am the director of the information consulting company defense express, which, together with the espresso channels, strives to highlight the most current events in the field of security and now we meet mykhailo gonchar, president of the center for global studies

, strategy 21 in my opinion, one of the best specialists in the fields of energy and military security, mykhailo, i am glad to meet you to see and hear i congratulate me serhiy i congratulate the viewers of the espresso channel the enemy has resorted to undermining the dam of the kakhovskaya hpp this is an act of both terrorism and ecocide whether it is still possible to claim that the enemy is moving to such a new stage of confrontation with ukraine with the aim of causing maximum economic losses with the aim to undermine the economic stability of our country, and this means that this transition took place with the undermining of the kakhovka hpp, this is actually a continuation, because if we do not recall last year, and in particular, i will now

cite the date of september 11, 2022, when it was the first such massive missile attack on the energy infrastructure of kharkiv region on september 11, a symbolic date, russia does not hide this symbolism and has drawn parallels since september 11, 2001. well, then there were known even more massive missile strikes on the energy infrastructure of ukraine, october 10, october 11, november 15. well, you can list these dates and so on, this already meant that russia moved to the plan of inflicting strategic damage in ukraine to the entire depth of its territory and, first of all, to the energy infrastructure. well, in the future if the strike was aimed at industrial

facilities that are important for the defense-industrial complex , what happened at the kakhovka hpp is, in principle , blanks, a billet, a billet that was made since last year, practically the first information about the mining of objects at the hydroelectric station it appeared more than a year ago well, already in the fall of 2022 if there was sufficiently accurate information that the hydroelectric power plant was blown up and prepared for detonation and it is obvious that in this case, there was only waiting for that order the order of the corresponding directive at a certain time and if we look at a certain, well, let's make such a certain retrospective in the past

, we will see that what happened in kakhovka, because in the 41st year, corresponds to the soviet military art in principle er was used er detonation of er dniproges in zaporizhzhia it did not bring tangible results for the retreating soviet troops but nevertheless it took place well and it corresponds to such er approach which is being studied in was studied before is being studied obviously now eh of the military the academies of the general staff of the ussr or russia are now talking about the so-called engineering flooding when there is a serious hydraulic

structure , from the point of view of operational art, it is possible to stop the advance of the enemy's troops, then you can take advantage of this by blowing up such a structure with the fact that release water on the path of the advance of the enemy's troops and in this way slow down the offensive actions of the enemy, that's why we see the implementation of this in practice, but the question goes far beyond the framework and at night, this is such a multi-layered scenario at the end of which on my view is precisely the creation of the prerequisites for a man-made nuclear accident at the zaporizhzhia npp, which is fed from the kakhovsky reservoir for where does the water for the reactor cooling system

come from? in the flooding zone, this is espresso correspondent dmytro ditoro, who in e-e will tell about the current operational situation in the kherson mykolayiv oblast p dmytro i congratulate you, what is happening right there you are now saying yes i am continuing we are now in mykolaiv the consequences of the explosion of the kakhovskaya hpp you can see just behind me this is a micro-district that washed away several er embankments such a strip and washed away the gazebo of one of the cafes and about the operational situation in the mykolaiv oblast in the very regional center at night was calm, reports to the operational command of the south that around four in the morning it was possible to shoot down a cruise missile over the mykolaiv region, but the enemy, despite even

the flooding in the mykolaiv region itself, continues shelling with artillery, in particular, in the ochakivsk community, hit the water area with no casualties and destruction, also with artillery shelled the potsurub community, there were also no casualties and destruction, and in general, the situation in mykolaiv oblast is more or less calm. despite kherson, which is constantly under fire from the enemy, 18 eight shells just yesterday, the enemy released kherson, and thanks to the information of the minister of community development , territory and infrastructure of ukraine, oleksandr kubrykova, we know that 150 tons of water fell into the dnipro due to the explosion of the kakhova hpp lubricants, this is official information. let's hear from the ministry what the quality of the water in mykolaiv is and whether this leakage of lubricants

threatens the mykolaiv water. we are under roughly triple control only on the approach to our treatment facilities , the government announced that they allocated 120 million hryvnias to provide mykolaiv with drinking water, and if we return to kherson and the kherson region, yesterday the enemy fired 25 shells in the city of kherson, namely along the evacuation routes of the local population from the korabel microdistrict, which suffered the most from the explosion of the kakhova hydroelectric power station.

on the palm of the hand and therefore it was possible to come under fire, but we had time to talk with the local residents, let 's hear them, i got a call, one percent remained on the phone, oh, that's what i'm saying, i got a call, i hope so, thank god oh, and to be honest, svet has no water there, there is nothing there, and the water level is rising, i don’t know how much it will rise. well, i don’t know how much, when they will go down, we just go, shouting, help is needed , people respond to us, and accordingly, we are a word of mouth radio word of mouth radio, what is that? bridge after bridge water vadim many meters two two and a half this is exactly why it's a very difficult case eh everything is spilled in oil products sad story just

sad kherson regional military administration advises journalists and volunteers to limit trips to this part of the front, since the russians are constantly being shelled from the side, i have such information from mykolaiv and kherson oblast. thank you very much for the prompt inclusion of the latest information from this dangerous region, and i will remind our viewers that it was dmytro detura, a correspondent of the espresso channel, and returning to p. mykhailo now we saw what is really happening in this investment area a, but in one of your interviews, mr. mykhailo, you said that russia is moving to a hybrid algorithm of actions, which actually borders with the use of weapons of mass destruction as a matter of fact, but de jure it is not so, i.e. is it about the fact that now this version of such cascading effects on ukraine will be

implemented by russia , for example, the zaporizhia nuclear power plant is in effect. this was set as a goal. well, if the result was not difficult to predict, now the projection of the threat of a nuclear incident will work. this is something close to the fukushima scenario, because if there is a shortage of water for cooling the reactors, then, strictly speaking, they will move warm-up despite the fact that there are five reactors in the cold mode of the instruction , and the sixth reactor or rector number five power unit number five is still in the hot mode, however, they do not

work at full power is clear yes, but nevertheless water is needed for cooling because one way or another the active zone of the reactor continues to emit heat, it needs to be removed and here if there is still a problem that is why such a situation can be before this by the way, the russians they were also preparing because they didn't pay attention to the fact that there was information since last year, there has been no information about the mining of the kakhovka eu, which appeared at the beginning of april, that the russians mined the water supply collectors in the cooling circuits of at least four power units from the first to the fourth, and actually if the scenario is fully calculated, just as they are now declaring that it was ukraine that struck the kakhovsky hpp and this, they say, caused

the destruction, they can also say that ukraine struck the zaporizhzhia power units, the supply manifolds were destroyed of water, and then a situation arises that regardless of whether there is water in, whether there is water, or whether there is water in reservoirs, or whether there is water in the cooling pond , somehow it cannot be fed into the cooling circuit of the reactor and so on . what happened is what happened . of the active zone with subsequent melting , its depressurization of the reactor body and the release of radioactivity to the outside, so if this option is calculated, it can be traced in the actions of russia , that is, it is really a hybrid, because now we

are just seeing statements from all sides of such they say, well, there is no current threat, they say, there is no water coming in, here is today’s statement that the npp personnel themselves ensure the inflow of water with the means available there in the event of a drop in the water level of the reservoir, and they say that if the current problem does not arise, then yes, but we are only saying that at the beginning implementation of this algorithm well, actually speaking, here i can give a comparison, see uh, with that, let's recall the incident when uh , russian fighters in the su-27 destroyed the american uh, unmanned reconnaissance device, they did not use uh, missiles for

they destroyed this drone in an unarmed way. without using means of destruction, they destroyed it by performing the appropriate manners, and if the americans had spread their hands, as we can see, the reaction was a sluggish kola, and so on. and here it is, in contrast to the previous threats and dogs, a tactical aden weapon that threats remain here if russia were to resort to a nuclear scenario , but without the use of tactical nuclear ammunition, and therefore they carefully monitor the reaction of the world public, governments and so on and every step, depending on this reaction, they uh, in the future , verify the subject in which way it is worth acting. well, obviously at a certain stage, they realized that it is possible to go to uh,

raise the rates and raise the uh degree tension a-a and actually launch this algorithm of actions for a strategic defeat and it is aimed, as a matter of course, first of all at us, at ukraine, but also aimed at our western partners, so that they review their approaches there, they say, regarding aid to ukraine, well, and we see that again in the discussion returned there, er, to invite ukraine to nato for free places, which not to invite, which weapons to provide, which not to provide there, and so on, and so on, and so on, and similar publications appear there about what is needed , they say, in one way or another, it is necessary to incline the parties to

of the negotiations, they say, uh, what a problem, the parties are still somehow communicating there, they have to talk, and maybe they will eventually agree on something. therefore, all this is as if such a complex use of the power of the means that are currently being carried out with russia in order to uh, to achieve a certain strategic advantages at a time when they cannot achieve such an advantage during almost 15 months there on the battlefield, but there are two more such components that also seem to be included in this concept of the russian federation because there were mentions of the mining of the crimean titan plant, which itself creates environmental threats, and yesterday there was a message from the main intelligence agency that in fact russia is preparing for a terrorist attack on main gas pipelines, but already on the territory of the russian federation there is a downward pressure and thus creating certain risks there

in order to later accuse ukraine of precisely such actions, it is also included in the concept of shaking the unity of europe in the attitude towards ukraine, of course, and in principle, this is also a scenario that was not invented today, that is, he just lay down and waited for his time because it really is not necessary to take some professional actions on the territory of ukraine to blow up gas pipelines, but you can successfully do it on your own territory and pass it off as a technical incident, they say . especially since now the country is working on in fact, one pipeline, one single one. previously, there were several routes in which russian gas went through ukraine in transit to the countries of the european union. now there is practically one route. so, if in their usual manner they can say that this is

an old gas pipeline, it has already worn out and they say something happened. well, that’s all in the best case scenario. and as a rule, they can build a ukrainian sabotage group, they say , that infiltrated the gas pipeline there. well, in this way, it’s also like a disk mechanism on the european partners of ukraine in relation to reduction support or review in general there of support for ukraine for the revision of the sanctions policy, and in this regard, of course, there is no voluntary, so to speak, without quotation marks, the europeans from russia cannot count on this, because there may still be some illusions there, but in fact, everything looks completely different, so you need to be prepared for this scenario, but