[000:00:00;00] the wire of the bell was already worn out and they say something happened there. well, that's all at best . and as a rule, they can build a ukrainian sabotage group, they say, that penetrated there and blew up the weapon. well, in this way - it's also like a mechanism disk on e-e european partners of ukraine regarding the reduction of support or revision in general there of support for ukraine to review the sanctions policy e and in this regard, of course, there would be no voluntary without quotation marks e-e europeans from russia cannot count on this because there are still there may be some illusions somewhere, but in reality everything looks completely different, so you need to be prepared for the scenario , but actually speaking here, if the situation

is also completely predicted, it is only a matter of time when they will not be ready to resort to this step more historical precedents were how they did it, the most striking is the suspension of oil supplies to lithuania in 2006, when, according to the kremlin, the lithuanian government improperly privatized an oil refinery not in favor of the russian company a on the benefit of the polish company, and therefore suddenly on the territory of russia in the area of ​​er, mentioned many times, where the oil pumping station of the druzhba system is located , an accident suddenly occurred. an oil pipeline is impossible there, there is a huge number of worn-out areas of damage and

so on, but for some reason it is on the territory of belarus , because through belarus, where the transit to lithuania went to the transit oil, they resumed the supply when the lithuanians said, “why not update it?” and we we can't put more pressure because then the pipe didn't last, so belarus will last, but it won't last until you. well, that's the end of it, and the transit was not updated because it's such a hybrid mechanism, they haven't been developed for a long time, and now it's the same, they will be used and there is no need to have any illusions that russia will somehow comply with some of the contractual obligations of its european partners, and here in this case we act simply as a transit link and we provide this transit not because we so to speak

we have it not only because we have a contract between naftogaz and gazprom, but also because our partners who support us have done the end of the car, but we definitely ask the question, what should be done with it, because, for example , a decision was made about with oil paints. last year, it was implemented, but with regard to gas argo, the talks are still ongoing , but they have not even reached the practical level. just all the things that have happened show that if we do not resort to the strict economic isolation of russia, and in fact, it will not will stop, as we can see on the example of the sanctions that created problems for russia and they halved its oil and gas revenues there, but this decrease is halved compared to the record level of the 22nd year, i.e.

actually, the sanctions have reduced the profitability of russian oil and gas exports there, well, it is equal to the 21st year and this is quite enough for russia to continue waging war, therefore, including. these are the methods that are essentially acting as a hybrid method for the strategic defeat of ukraine, essentially without the use of weapons of mass destruction, and therefore, if for that in order to harm the zaporizhia nuclear power plant, that scenario has already been worked out by them, the most stringent actions are needed on the part of our western partners, because of course you can see there that this is the dnipro that is overflowing, that they cover a certain region there, maybe even it is further there uh, even if there is some uh, man-made accident on the crimean titan

, something else toxic will spill there into sivash, azov, there and so on, it will get into the black sea. well , they say these are the local effects of alcohol in the event of an accident with the release of radioactivity, our which will be far from local, they will, depending on the degree of the level of the incident, have consequences of a european nature, that is why these things should now be on the table of our consultations and negotiations with the western partners, whom we must stimulate to preventive actions because reactive actions, even if they are quite so serious, they do not stop the aggressor, moreover, they actually simulate him to further dangerous steps dangerous only for ukraine, but for europe, mr.

mykhailo, thank you very much for your professional explanations for your comments, for your inclusion, and i will remind our viewers that on the air the class of presobu mykhailo gonchar, president of the center of global studies, strategy 21 podrivka khustsky hpp is actually one of the low crimes, what is the act of the russian federation and its army, and how exactly is the evidence base against the aggressor going to be gathered, we will talk in in the second part of our program , after a short commercial, we will have the next guest - this is oleksandr ruvin, the director of the kyiv research institute of forensic expertise of the ministry of justice of ukraine, but after the commercial, the white beast 20% in podorozhnyk pharmacies for you and oschad, there is medicine for cystitis, there are discounts on drops and capsules urolesan bye-bye, cystitis for life hello 20% in

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is actually a state institution responsible for military examinations of the consequences of enemy action and actually this evidence base is extremely important in order to legally and correctly evaluate everything from the point of view of further court cases that will be presented to the aggressor, how exactly this happens, what examinations are carried out by military experts, what are the difficulties , we will talk about this with our the next guest is oleksandr rovin p. oleksandr, i greet you. good afternoon. what are the main directions in the work of your experts now, and in particular, does the situation with the kakhovka hpp fall within the area of ​​responsibility of your experts? well, at the moment, i am the director of kyiv of the scientific research institute of forensic examinations, and we are entrusted with the functions of carrying out e-e, in particular, military examinations

or also examinations of missile artillery weapons, we have the only expert units and institutions, a unit that is directly engaged in conducting military examinations, we have a lot of them , a large unit er, it employs many highly qualified and experienced specialists in the specified field of research, and we conduct these examinations in order to determine the grounds for conducting further investigative actions and pre-trial investigation of war crimes committed by the armed aggressors of the russian federation, in particular, at present, almost all actions that have been or are being carried out by the military units of the armed forces of the russian federation, it is we

who are investigating the actions of commanders, not leaders , commanders of e-e armed types of the armed forces of russia, regarding your question about directly to the kakhovka hpp yes, we are conducting we started conducting the specified examination at the time we are at the stage of collecting relevant evidence , materials, video photos, we are studying the time at currently, all the projects on which the mentioned hydroelectric power plants were built are being studied by our specialists, all the possible reasons for the destruction, in particular , explosions, mines, hits by other weapons , in particular rocket artillery, or the conditions

of the deliberate decommissioning of the said hydroelectric power plant and the creation of this ecological disaster, which is currently happened , that is, now you are gathering the evidence base, evaluating all possible options that could have caused the destruction of the kakhovskaya hpp dam so directly, and your specialists are now in this area or are they trying to obtain evidence as close as possible to the place of the disaster are not far from this zone, we conduct appropriate expert examinations and not everywhere we can get to, but we study everything that can give us the opportunity to conduct an objectively justified analysis of physical evidence and prepare a reasonable basis for plowing the pre-trial investigation and carrying out accusations of those actions that were taken with the aim of this ecological disaster kyiv and these conclusions are carried out by your experts they

will then be recognized by the world community they are certified by these conclusions, in addition to the fact that we are a forensic expert institution of the state, what is the definition according to the relevant legislative acts, our institute has the corresponding accreditation in the system of forensic expert institutions in europe and the world, and our conclusions are accepted by all law enforcement agencies it is a description of the world and also by ships. well, you can draw an analogy, it’s a boeing 777 mh17, well, you know the malaysian malaysian airliner, it’s a boeing 737, a 752 that will fly

in that geranium, and well, other cases and ours. -is expert opinions that are accepted unconditionally by all law enforcement agencies and courts of european countries, in particular the international criminal court, with which we are working very fruitfully to prepare the evidence base for crimes committed by the russian armed forces . you mentioned that your experts examine every fragment of a russian missile or a russian a drone that fell on ukrainian soil, you are collecting an evidence base but sometimes your experts in principle draw conclusions that are well, very interesting we are even from the point of view of military tactics of using weapons of the enemy, your experts discovered for the first time that russia uses these missiles with simulators of nuclear warheads , they discovered that the khas-101 missile there has passed the stage of improvement, that is, your experts draw conclusions that, in principle, are very necessary for our military as well. you have interaction with the defense agencies, why

exactly these assessments are made by your experts and not by experts of the ministry of defense, well, the point is that we work very closely with them, we exchange information, they are with us, we are with them, uh, with us in the same way, such highly qualified and experienced specialists who have served for a long time in the military, e.e., the armed forces, e.e., of ukraine, and the military, in the past, as far as we are concerned, physical evidence that cannot immediately reach us, taking into account the fact that this is evidence that is recovered at the scene of accidents, they they get to us first, but we always involve experts from the research institute of the central research institute of the armed forces of ukraine, other experts of the armed forces who help us, and we with them

we share our relevant knowledge and experience and conclusions in order to be able to quickly make decisions regarding the work of e-e air forces e-e electronic warfare units with the aim of timely shooting down the specified unmanned aerial vehicles of missiles, that is, we have absolute mutual assistance and mutual exchange of information which is which which is with the specialists of the armed forces of ukraine and were there cases when your conclusions and assessments did not coincide with the conclusions of the military regarding the assessment of this or that sample or tactic use well, there was almost no use. we have er. well, since we have the opportunity to personally hold er

. in order for these conclusions and these of ours, if the studies corresponded to reality , well, for example, it was recently said that they were from kandera. we could already distinguish from the remains of food evidence what it is, but mainly we have a complete mutual understanding and we only help each other, an interdepartmental coordination group of our specialists and specialists of the armed forces of ukraine of the prosecutor general's office has been created . we exchange information, our specialists go to places of accidents together, so i think that we have almost no disputes there, when you mentioned that there are h400 nuclear power plants in kander, that is, as i understand it, you are talking about strikes

on the capital where there are remnants, including s400, and which we have not mentioned so far, although it is in in principle, there is a separate direction of the threat. which ukrainian air force should also take into account russian attack fighters, as i understand it, well, you are right, eh, these are just missiles, 48 ​​48 missiles, they are used as already in modernized s300 complexes. well, mainly s-403 umk, yes, we have very a lot of work together with experts from the ministry of defense and other agencies. we are working with the main intelligence agency and this is with the state information protection service of special communications here. we are just studying all these specific cases with

with the aim of ensuring a very correct and er really er air defense of our air forces. by the way, i know that foreign experts are also coming to you, foreign er specialists who are trying to deal with samples of russian weapons, were there any interest from foreign countries in particular? well, to the combat part of the same downed dagger, well, there is interest from specialists and other countries. there is probably electrical evidence of our criminal proceedings, we share our experience with them, we take information from them, something is working, we are in fruitful constant interaction with experts of the international criminal court, we give them all our evidence that we find , descriptions , conclusions , and it is very easy and pleasant for us to work with them.

them and them from us because the whole world feels that this threat not only to ukraine can affect other countries , that is why they are very happy with us. receiving all those parts that make up both unmanned aerial vehicles and missiles that are winged and ballistic that fall on the territory of ukraine , and this gives the opportunity to other countries and ukraine, in particular, to prevent the provision of these spare parts or components to russia the parts from which these years are being assembled, that is, in fact, your institute or experts in cooperation with the ministry of defense conduct a full development of the assembly of, let's say, these samples of weapons, which are in a more or less suitable

condition, the country of origin can be identified, and then the things about which the nsdc declares that there are components from european countries , this is precisely based on the activities of specialists of your institute. yes , we are not the only ones. handed over to our authorities, there have already been modernized shahids, which have other components from other countries, and so we are studying and covering up , helping to cover up exactly those channels for obtaining the relevant components from which they then collect exactly those deadly species weapons that fall into the territory of ukraine, therefore, i think that our work , our conclusions, they are very valid and necessary for our country . oleksandr, tell us in more detail about the direction of your institute's activities, such as

the identification of ukrainian military personnel who were captured or conducting dna analyzes to identify the dead. just as we understand another field of activity of specialists of your institute we have now a new direction has appeared, it is the identification of persons who are in captivity we were contacted by some relatives, parents, acquaintances, colleagues about finding them, whether they were determined to be alive or dead, in which places they look alike, not similar, uh , by our specialists, just now, we will retreat from the word dna, because dna we cannot take those people, uh, they uh, they find in the mass media, in various youtubes , telegram channels that exist on the territory of our ukraine or russia, there are familiar faces

, well, people have changed a lot, lost weight, fought , changed under the e-e maps that exist, and that is why we have to conduct this photo portrait we have a very developed expertise, so we signed a memorandum with the governmental authority on human rights of the verkhovna rada with the red cross, and we were immediately bombarded with letters, this is a very interesting, such an interesting type of research, we have about 20-30 of them each we release one of them about a day and we hope that it will help the relatives of people who are in captivity to find out who they are. well, in many cases, they are recorded under other surnames and other names and identify them so that it is possible to

it is very difficult to make an exchange, so uh, i think that it is exactly this type of examination that we are doing right now, and these uh, opportunities that we have will allow ordinary ordinary citizens to find their close children, men, and this, uh, i think that is what is needed in first of all, mr. oleksandr, that is, in fact, we now compare the photos of at least 30 people who are in captivity every day, 20-30 people a day, we are about equal , we can always find similarities, yes, we do not satisfy everyone, but out of those 30, 20- 30 people 10-15 if they match, you can imagine how much it is in general e for the country eh well, hope, hope, we help so that this hope does not go out among relatives , parents and children, first of all, the children of the wives

, what families will remain with the parents, of course, as examinations regarding there, well, pictures for portraits and other things, it is precisely this family who turn to us, mainly close relatives turn to us. they turn to us directly and to the governmental representative of the verkhovna rada on human rights, plundens, and they forward it to us, and we have already quickly for two days we are trying to establish this case and issue a result so that another person is waiting for us just like me. so that we, well, what are the close relatives of whom they are looking for? alexander , well, this was an interesting topic, i think we will return to this topic. and ours will be cham. let me remind you that oleksandr ruvin , the director of the kyiv research institute of forensic examinations of the ministry of justice of ukraine, was on the air . we understand that

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