[000:00:00;00] the second day of the full-scale war of russia against ukraine and the ninth year of the war, in fact, it is such an ambiguity to express and give the opportunity to express the position of both russia and ukraine , supposedly, who is the aggressor ukraine? i don't know what happened so that there was such an informational situation. i don't have the full amount of information, but one thing is obvious to me: as an international penetration, i will say that if an occupier on the territory of another country of the occupied territory mines an infrastructural object that is a threat is already a violation, not just a violation , he becomes responsible for everything that

will happen to this object in full. i believe that not only zachidana, but also our reaction was sluggish, i was generally very surprised that we lost so well, let's go honestly, we will be glad without the first time, in fact, in recent years , why our e-e partners did not receive or did not want to use all the intelligence information, although you understand that such things are explosions, space observations. without even resorting to any kind of investigation, although it seems that sooner or later it will have to be done, because then it is the roof of genocide and it is necessary to understand that there are protocols of the 56th digene convention to the first protocol, paragraph 15 to the second

protocol, that is, no matter what this war crimes are -e base is based on the fact that aggression and in violation of the un charter was done to russia , it controlled the object, it mined the object, that is, everyone has all the cards in their hands , why did this happen? what's up in fact, russia can be accused of using similar weapons of mass destruction. that is, because of the consequences, many people think that nuclear weapons are tactical

nuclear weapons. this is russia and putin personally, putin personally , that's why they used their approach, they immediately returned weapons to ukraine, informational weapons. they sent out our briefing of well-known experts who know the details of all foreign addressees, i.e. maybe it works now in a week , the situation will somehow level out, don’t pay attention to some people. i believe that these signs of russian intelligence work are definitely there, that is, in america, and so on. by the way, they were kicked out of fox because it was an unreliable fake show, for which fox was sued and in order for them to pay huge sums, that is, you don’t have to

watch these, but here why our partners are given intelligence is dosed and released only through the mass media. i don't understand. i don't understand because i understand very well that newspapers don't take information out of the air, especially in america. if there was an internal decision in the first hour, the us didn't have it at all . why yes? well, it's possible. we did not expect such extraordinary actions of the russians and now the situation is very dangerous. if there are no informational response plans, at least immediately for the next such provocations of the disaster , russia will continue. i want to say what we have heard in recent weeks. megate phrases, even our official structures, what is there? everything is normal, the water level allows cooling the zaporizhzhia nuclear plant, well, listen to the question, don't level it while you have an occupier who can use all

these possibilities, eh , the increase of the nuclear threat at the zaporizhzhia plant, if last year it was possible to settle these threats of tactical weapons, now this question arises again, russia can see that it works, there is no single such active position in the whole world, therefore , unfortunately, unfortunately, citizens of ukraine must be are aware that they must be prepared for any development of events, er, with such man-made things, that is, i think that this is now clear and there is no need to calm down , on the contrary, we need to prepare preventive measures and not wait for russia to blow up some dam or take advantage of imbalances or there is a deliberate destabilization of the situation at

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, it is also a war for umy russia is throwing millions of petrodollars to turn ukrainians into little russians star rishi ldnr, let's counter the information attacks of the russians in the project of the chronicle of the information war with olga len from june 5 , tuesday, thursday, friday at 17:10 on the espresso tv channel let's continue the saturday political club anzhelika a season in front of me portnikov so now we will hear the opinion of vitaly portnikov regarding the most important events of this week and we will start , of course, with the blowing up of the kakhova hydroelectric power plant and i suggest first to consider the context of the world reaction for this, i will quote several publications as they presented this information , it is very it is interesting, so that we are not

, let's say, speechless, for example, the german newspaper tag spiegel published a news article with a general reference to the russian ambassador in the netherlands that moscow had appealed to the international criminal court accused ukraine of undermining the kakhova hpp, and this was their first news about the explosion, and then they also brought an investigation by an allegedly independent investigative organization in russia, which came to the conclusion that the destruction of the kakhova dam was caused by an accidental explosion and criminal negligence on the part of the russian troops . the ukrainians, because the russians occupied that on the first day of the full-scale war , the french lamont writes about the destruction of the kakhov dam and simply writes that the destruction of the kakhov dam took place without reference to who destroyed and continues to print the comments of russian officials who blame ukraine for this, but if the french and germans could still expect such

an ambiguous position, then the times publishes that the dam has collapsed, again, who destroyed it is unclear to the bbc in the general narrative of the western media, too, printing nova kakhovka, who benefits from the breach of the dam and so on and so on and all with such an identical narrative similar to the russian one unfortunately p vitaliy why so? well, because journalism remains journalism in any conditions if you don't have concrete evidence, you can't call criminals, you can afford it when you work in the journalism of a warring country, the journalism of warring countries in general can't meet certain standards anymore because it's just obvious things we say quoting official we are not going to trust the official statements of russian officials, but if you work for the respected western media, you are not thinking about

how ukrainian viewers and readers perceive you. about how you are actually perceived. if you publish unverified information, you will lose the trust of your audience and lose it at the expense of another moment that will respect certain standards of behavior, so it is absolutely not clear to me when we say that here they did not write it, they do not write it when they will evidence if you notice every day when satellite information appears about an internal explosion, it is said when new facts appear, more and more western publications, here are the facts that prove that russia did it. well, good, but there are others terrorist acts in olenivka, for example, i don't remember the western media writing ambiguously that someone blew up a colony of volyn residents, there was a report simply about the explosion of the colony, and then there were reports that the russians did it and when the mh17 plane was shot down. no one said who shot it down, so i agree, but

it was in the 14th year, if somehow they didn’t write anymore, someone was raping people to get hit, but the russians were there, there were russian troops, and again , they said this when there were indisputable facts that the russian troops were exterminating people, and who else could have done what the ukrainians were there, it was absolutely obvious that it was a war crime when and i will forget when they started writing after the evidence appeared, the de-occupation was correct and there was evidence of atrocities and it hurts the witnesses who came out and told western journalists. we saw how russian soldiers killed e this is the rule of our compatriots. and you really do not believe that there is evidence that the explosion took place, but the american wrote about the fact that the satellite has evidence of the explosion. well , of course, i believe that there is evidence. i just believe that they are now, i believe that at the time when the kakhova hpp dam was operated, there was never any evidence. well, it all works, everything is conspiracy theory, we do not know at all

what type of explosion the russians wanted to organize at the kakhova hpp. there are also a million versions about this, and none of them them is not reliable because we do not know this, we do not know whether the russians needed a catastrophe of such a scale or they wanted there by way of some er-er explosion of the dam to delay, say, the ukrainian counteroffensive, but they came out as usual in they have such a word russian, but it cannot be used on the air when it comes to, well, you know about the ability of russians to hide every insect they see in front of them as an insect. time the ss faced incompetence and negligence, this is not the first time they did not expect such consequences because it affected them very much , they could they could consider it a managed disaster managed by the way, absolutely

valeriy is right when he speaks. when they talk about the zaporizhzhia npp, they can also think that they will do something controlled there, of course we cannot now, er, believe that an explosion at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant can lead to such consequences as chernobyl or kusima, because it is fortunately, our non-working nuclear power plant, but in any case, they can think about something there and consult with someone . i just imagine this meeting regarding the explosion at the kakhovsky hpp when people are sitting with some documents with some analysis that may not correspond to reality because they are not competent, i have met a million times in russia with such a situation when people in high positions with such , you know, serious faces offered absolutely idiotic things. it was completely clear how all this would happen. by the way, a great example of this meeting that we all saw. with our own eyes was a meeting with the president of vladimir putin during

the hostage-taking of the theater center in dobroka, we would never have known what happened there if leonid parfyonov had not deciphered what the participants of the meeting were saying and it turned out that the then prime minister of russia and mikhail kasyanov called putin, well, mr. president, don't you understand that if we go in such and such a way, it will lead to such and such consequences, and the point no will not lead to that look here are the calculations of the ministry of internal affairs, here are the calculations of the federal the security services, and they miscalculated , we will not believe with you that they wanted to deliberately kill the hostages, uh, who were there. no, they wanted to kill the terrorists and show what kind of guys they might have planned some number of victims among the hostages, but the number as a result was not planned and i can tell you such stories about russians

from my own experience, dozens of reasons why i should not think that this happened. of course, you can think that this was planned, such a huge crime, but there is no logic in it, that is, 8 years conduct negotiations for crimea, the first thing to do is to open the song of the occupation of kherson region, open the channel, present it as a huge achievement and then, in principle , destroy any chances for his work, and this is not jokes because they are doing this because they are saying goodbye to crimea, they are not saying goodbye to anything, their goals not only are they not saying goodbye to crimea, i am convinced that they are now planning how they will hold a referendum on the accession to russia of the kharkiv region , they are not going to see any witnesses at all go nowhere do you retreat, they have a clear plan of work until 2030 and there will be no ukraine in 2009 in their plan. that you did not doubt

even for a minute and even if you imagine that they are saying among themselves that we will give wings to the plan there is no such thing, they must act according to the plan, that means if we act according to the plan, we have a subject of the federation , the republic of crimea, there is a subject of the federation of kherson oleksii, of course we will take them all and there are subjects of the future federation there for 23-25 ​​years, there is the kharkiv region odessa mykolaivsk so why are we destroying the possibility of economic development of the subject of the russian federation of the republic of crimea why are we destroying the possibility of military development of crimea because it is a base this base should scare all our enemies if there are not enough water resources for our base if the population will leave, then we will thus make the very possession of crimea completely meaningless. after all, it must be understood that crimea as

a military object did not develop very successfully until the crimean canal. during world war ii, russians fled from crimea all the time, even in the early days of the soviet union, because there were not enough resources for defense, and in principle , the northern crimean canal made it possible to have not only resources for defense, but also the resources of the attack as shown by the history of their actions in the south of ukraine. so they cut off certain response bodies with their own hands. i don't think that was their plan. i don't believe in it. i don't think that they wanted to seize their own defense lines. their idea was precisely to create problems for the ukrainian troops and others on the banks of the dnieper, so this is a careless operation, in order to understand how it happened , you need satellite data, you need intelligence

information, you need all this, i think it will take another week, 2-3 months, we get a full labor information that's all, but you see that the russians use all informational opportunities to construct ukraine , let's talk about the kakhovka hydroelectric power plant . the fact that the ukrainians blew it up and wrote it for the new york times and the poles participated in it. and the story of the belgian weapons that are used on the territory of russia is not something to think about. we always believe that the enemy is not capable of working

carry out information operations for us this is the impression of something russia she just sits and waits until the people from the legion of free russia come to moscow to win, the russian political leadership led by vladimir putin is 150% sure of this victory , we can consider that this is a delusion and there are a million historical examples that such confidence is false , the best example is adolf hitler who believed in the victory of the reich seems to me to be before may 1, 1945, but there is no significance of delusion - whether or not it matters whether the resources are allocated for certain operations, because german intelligence , precisely because of hitler's belief in victory , worked on various objects and so on until the last days, the reich carried out special operations , engaged in information operations, engaged in some sabotage operations, worked with agents practically until the last days, well , russia will deal with all this until the last

days, we just need to understand that we will to say that russia as an empire has two months left and in moscow at this time they will plan and conduct another operation with a man-made disaster on ukrainian territory, it is simply necessary to realize that this will be the whole time as long as the russian-ukrainian war continues, in which state it was not the russian state and before that, before life in such a reality of catastrophes, battles, disappointments, victories and defeats, at least you have to get used to the informational ones, because it is a long war, we do not know how long it will take. it can take 20 years of the xxi century, more time, well that this is only the beginning of the story, we just have to adapt because when we want to run a short distance, we thus drive ourselves into depression when we realize that this short distance will not be in our lives. valery clearly stated that we lost . and i think that we will win because we did not have the main map

of evidence in our hands, so i agree, but we also had a guest, a journalist from kherson, who also noted that the government was not ready for such a disaster, although president volodymyr zelenskyi himself, if not i was wrong in october, yes, in the fall of 2022, he spoke about the fact that russia could not blow up kakhovsk, or people would prepare for this situation. this is me too. to be honest, i am surprised that the kakhovskoe hpp will be blown up. it was absolutely clear from the first day after the liberation of kherson, and this is a good thing, by the way. the question in general is how strategic planning takes place in the ukrainian state because , by and large, i have the impression all the time that we live in a state of tactical planning . certain consequences, but conditionally speaking, you liberate kherson, taking advantage of the fact that the russian troops, after

they were unable to advance to mykolaiv and further develop their offensive to the south, ended up in an extremely unsuccessful position in an extremely unsuccessful position. and by the way, you yourself do not fully believe many people did not believe us when kherson remained christians, remember that many of our leaders believed that this was not such a maneuver , but i did not have it here, it was simply impossible to get defense from ukrainian troops the sun of the steppes, everything is shot through there, there is no way to bring resources, reserves, and weapons to the antonov bridge after the explosion. and you find yourself in such a trap, and by the way , remember that they understood this, that's how the russians work, they understood this a few months before and appointed general survykina from tasks with two tasks, the first task is to take responsibility for the withdrawal of troops from kherson and

the second task is the energy blackout of ukraine , he managed the first task, but he managed the second one. a bull, sometimes a bull, a toreador so, they took him with absolutely clear goals, because the syrovyki does not know how to withdraw troops and, uh , destroy the infrastructure, he did it in force. true yes, but now we think and what do we want, we liberate kherson, can we liberate the left bank of the dnieper, no, that means kherson is turning into a place of death for a huge number of people, because it will be shelled from the left bank, that means we have to think about the defense of kherson if it is at all possible if it is impossible to defend kherson we do not have effective enough countermeasure systems for the defense of the evacuation of the city no matter how strange it sounds, the liberation of kherson means the evacuation of kherson if we cannot liberate kakhivska

go away, it is not necessary to establish control over it to understand that as we strengthen our positions at the front, the kakhovskaya hpp can be used in the event of such an environmental weapon and man-made weapon. they talked about this in practice in the first weeks after the liberation of kherson and the ukrainian authorities, it is not enough to talk, you need to have a clear plan of action at the moment when it happens. there is no scenario for how to take people out . i'm sorry, but many people are missing, it's clear where they are under water. somewhere else there is such a part of them when there is a flood and there are dead people, this is me. by the way, this applies more to it on the left bank than evacuated there, and let's also pay attention to this.

volunteers help, it's good that we have them, it's good that ukrainians know how to turn their anger into donations, and the position of the united nations international red cross will help, but in any case, these are international organizations, you are more than the un, in order to make a certain decision, you need to be there collective will and this requires a procedure that does not take place in a day red cross we can already see it it is in a deep institutional crisis as long as we wait for the arrival of the red cross everything will already disappear as he said yes the journalists are leaving, and it is already the tenth of june. i'm sorry, but you're right, because they also have, they have to get a budget. they have to get the strength to have enough opportunity to react . that's how any international organization works . it can't come before the earthquake. it's another matter that maybe it was necessary to negotiate with with the red cross to the undermining of the kakhovskaya hydroelectric power plant , talking about what the algorithm of actions might be, this is another question.

think about other objects. something else can happen somewhere, there are other objects , and you, vitaliy, already talked about this valery chaly that if they blew up the kakhovka hpp, they can obviously blow up the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant as well . we are not scientists. and there are the cheeks and not the employees of nuclear power plants, it is necessary to convene a meeting that they are the president, but conventionally speaking, the head of the state committee for emergency situations or whatever this service is called, representatives of the government with experts and discuss the algorithm with them possible consequences of the accident not for any accident on zaporizhzhia, taking into account the fact that this is an accident at a station that has stopped, in fact it has stopped and what will it affect because i, mr. valery, can talk about zaporizhzhia as people who simply know that this is a nuclear power plant

experts, do you understand the difference between an accident at a station that has stopped and an accident at a station that is working, so far we have dealt only with accidents at stations that were in working condition, this is the chernobyl nuclear power plant of the fokusimi npp, and by the way, it is interesting that our specialists who worked to eliminate the consequences of the accident at the chernobyl nuclear power plant were invited as experts after the explosion at focusim because these were identical challenges when working at a nuclear power plant. but still there is not a single expert in the world who could boast of practical experience of accidents at non-working nuclear plants. we hope that such an expert will not appear because there will be no such explosion, but in any case, it is necessary to calculate purely scientific mathematically, at what level can this be an explosion of one reactor of three or five, what can it be

emission of radiation, can it be again, after all, we are not physicists, and what territory will it cover and is there a danger for populated areas? and maybe all this is exaggerated, you understand, if we in megate say that they do not imagine any direct threat to the zaporizhzhia npp , then this is a conclusion experts dealing with atomic energy should wait for the visit of the general director of grosu's store to the zaporizhzhia npp and understand what can really happen. and by the way, these are some questions that should be asked to such people as the citizens of belgorod if the russians arrange an accident there, what will it lead to, what should be done in this situation, it is necessary to evacuate some nearby cities or a village, and can we evacuate them there?

it is occupied by the zaporizhian as calm down in good faith at the stage when we do not control these territories. and if we will control these territories and not control the zaporizhzhia npp, anyway, you algorithm of actions should work like this in general. the state is simple. but if we want to work simply by interviewing and appeals and challenges, then we will work in another river, what are you going to do here? well, i always say that politicians should not exchange journalists with them, but they are probably sitting in italy, something