[000:00:00;00] in e-e is occupied and melitopol is a huge territory that is connected to the zaporizhzhya assa on the occupied territory. that is, this is the question . as with the left bank of the dnieper, you can calm down in good faith at the stage when we do not control these territories. and if we will control these territories and not control the zaporizhzhia npp. working in the state is simple. but if we want to work simply through interviews and appeals and challenges, then we will work in another river. what will you do here? well, i say all the time that politicians should not replace themselves with journalists, but they are sitting on mr. in italy something

i think we have laid out everything on the shelves about the kakhovka hpp, about the undermining by the russians, and our hydroelectric power plants, unfortunately, the consequences are significant and all the experts are talking about it . however, we will be able to assess them for sure. first of all, to say that this is an ecological disaster after an ecological disaster, the construction of the kakhov hpp is a socio-ecological disaster, now a new ecological disaster has occurred, the destruction of the kakhov power plants , the next question number three arises. the water supply regime should be thought about. and how did all these cities live, which receive water by taking water from the resources of the kakhov hpp, first of all kryvyi rih

nikopol well, they somehow lived without this water were big cities, well, you can say that there was no such industry there. well, it means that you have to accept for yourself that there will not be such an industry, which is there at least for the next ten years, that you also need to realize this and solve the issue of the development of these cities based on their ability to provide workers place for its inhabitants or to develop and into a different economy. well , you can’t do anything here. we understand very well that without a large amount of water, large enterprises cannot work. this is the alpha and omega of what eh for in order for a certain amount of population to be in a certain place, appropriate water resources are also needed, if these water resources are not available in principle, well, then the city will be developed where they are, it does not sound very pleasant, but it is just such a simple logic, there are general recommendations of doctors and experts in the field of medicine what can affect, after all, since

this is an ecological disaster for your and our health if we do not take care, that is why there are such general standard recommendations not to drink water from the tap, it is no longer worth drinking it well wash all products before using them, try to thermally treat them, wash your hands regularly, that is, such general recommendations that we are used to even during the coronavirus, of course, honor, it is interesting , in general, in ukraine you can drink water from the sub-country considering that most of our waterworks have not been repaired since the time of the russian empire that's why i'll say just in case, don't be afraid of water from the tap, it's several times, now you need once, and it's not enough, at least that's what the doctors say, let's imagine what can happen in this there is no way to get the dnieper water from kakhovsky, unfortunately, and the dead are floating and coffins are floating because the cemeteries have been washed away, and there are a lot of dead animals there, it is no longer possible

to use it, it is another danger . let's get to the next topic. regarding his certain forecasts, well, this is the main message that there is no need to expect anything because not all nato members are ready for ukraine to join now, at least an invitation to give us some prospect of joining in 10-15-20 years. then i don't know what we can count on in general, first of all, the situation is changing quite quickly, various international events, changes, secondly , i believe that ukraine needs not just accession to nato, or ukraine needs an invitation to nato and with security guarantees , what will the price be? are the leading countries that have nuclear weapons

, in fact, the most important thing that our allies have is to ensure it from the possibility of a nuclear strike, this is the essence of history, because if russia knows that it cannot strike our territory with a nuclear strike, because it can meet with the joint reaction of other countries that have nuclear weapons, it will behave differently if there is no such misunderstanding . so everyone will always be very careful in this war, fearing that russia will launch a nuclear strike. let's not be naive. when they say that the war cannot be forgotten, it was fought on the territory of russia that should be only within the borders of ukraine, that there cannot be actions that will lead to escalation you hear all these forms, it means a simple thing we do not want this war to lead to the use of nuclear weapons by a nuclear state

on a non-nuclear state because we don't know what to do after that, we don't have an algorithm of actions. and if we even have an algorithm of actions, it's so terrible that we don't want to use it and we don't know why we will use it, and this is a recipe for the continuation of the russian-ukrainian war in the coming years because if russia knows this, she knows that nothing will be real for her, then she can access, retreat, leave territories , conquer territory, stop everything , freeze, unfreeze. she can simply play with ukraine like a cat and a mouse. well well, the cat turned out to be kind of not very energetic , she went to sleep in a corner until she didn't stop being a cat.

guarantees of the impossibility of using a nuclear strike on our territory, this is what turns us into a cat, and so you can put a fairy tale on this mouse, give it modern weapons, arm it with everything that other cats have, who just sit there behind the door and watch that this cat does not met because she has a headache, but we do not become cats without it, we are just a mouse who has put on all this ammunition of cats and that's the essence of our problem and what makes this conflict existential because everyone tells us and not well of course you free your territory but god forbid no no no no oh we condemn what is happening in belgorod oblast if for the sake of it why don't you condemn what is happening in kherson oblast when from the russian point of view it is on the territory of russia and you already condemn belgorod oblast that we have such a reaction algorithm, an algorithm of actions, and we have decided for ourselves that russia will not use nuclear weapons if it is on

the common territory, the so-called, but on non- territory, which is definitely russian. therefore, they can do anything. stop, you know, if we stop in russia there is a huge territory behind your shoulders where you can train troops, where you can produce projectiles, where you can produce rockets . well, well, who knew what the correct meaning in this situation is, what it means, valeriy spoke about the fact that the only country that prevents in this case, hungary, as you know, can't do anything on its own. hungary was prevented from reaching the top in finland until the moment when turkey was against it. as soon as the turkish parliament votes, it voted for finland. hungary did the same thing, i assure you that as soon as the turkish parliament votes for sweden and hungary, either a week before or a week after , will make an appropriate decision if all or nato member countries are in favor of ukraine's accession

, and hungary will not interfere with this moreover, you understand that viktor orbán has several pillars of support that he does not want to say goodbye to, it is not only vladimir putin. this recipe is because, together with aldogan, orbán is creating a certain axis of such and such a different policy in the north atlantic union. it is not by chance that orban drives at the summits of the leaders of the tsyur countries, although i will tell you in secret, philologically , it is such a thing that the hungarian language is in tsytsk. well, this has happened since ancient times, ladies, but he has a place there because he wants to be among these politicians, you understand that he is more comfortable with orban with stakaev and zelei, not with scholz or macron, but if the perdogan tells him, i apologize, but we are for ukraine over hungary, not hungary, there is no map like it. it can beat this ace, we just need to convince erdogan first of all, we need to convince

the united states of america, our main problem - this is the united states of america, they seem to be yes, but not now, well, yes, but not now, and we don’t even need any road map, and we don’t even need a road map. what? let's cook this frog on moderate heat and then it will boil and not notice. as you can see, the frog notices everything, the frog has already blown up the kakhovka hydroelectric power station , it does not boil, it jumps, like me, in its youth, it plots one tragedy after another and then another the problem even if we say that it is actually a problem not because it is such a crime and is ready to raise

the bar, but in fact we wanted to settle it into something, but i don’t know how, the problem is that any long war leads to such things as we which we now we are watching, well, this is the logic of war during war, and this is not a football match, or you can’t predict how these or other events will develop, any logistical or technical error can lead to a disaster more than disasters on kakhovsky when we drag out this war we all the time we are talking about this in principle, and i will repeat, and we are prolonging this war not on the territory of ukraine and russia, but exclusively on the territory of ukraine, that is , the ukrainians are paying for the prolongation of this war, and on the territory of the russian federation, with the exception of a few districts of the belgorod region nothing it's not happening, well, some drone got into a house in er crows well, it will be good for drones to get into some russian houses in russian houses and without our drones, something is somehow not very good

ukraine is doing officially well, it doesn't matter even if it was done officially in ukraine, it's still our the ability to act on the territory of russia is even politically different from the ability of russia to act on our territory in that, despite what is happening, that is why i say i do not think that we are getting any algorithm of actions in vilnius, you know the price of the impression, our western partners want to find some way out so as not to take us to nato, but we need something, some piece of paper or something else, i want a very simple thing in this you by the way, you are not very different from the ukrainians they want the war to end and so that there was no need to take risks, this is our position until 2022. you know how a man who does not want to get married says let's live in a civil marriage. why is there a stamp in the passport in a civil marriage with putin in the same family?

he must understand that i will bring putin to this in a civil marriage, a man or a woman does not matter, the good will not bear it, because he will be the head of the court who will judge himself for his crime, you know how in anderson's fairy tales there were such processes, well, that is, they are all absolutely meaningless eh. in this regard, the stories that i they didn't understand how honestly i'll say it because i thought, let's say, that i really wouldn't have used some political formulas at all, but i didn't use the formula ukraine will definitely become a member of nato after the war, which all our friends are happy to use oh after the russians immediately hear this formula, which means they understand that if they cannot stop this process , they will continue the war by continuing the war. these are dangerous words, but the words are that we are ready to accept ukraine into nato despite the continuation of military operations on parts of its

territory. words that compel victory and can we talk to you president macron and chancellor scholz what do you mean how are you ready to participate in military operations and you mean the territory on which there are no military forces so we can't shell it what you say, there will be appropriate actions on your part on our military facilities, interesting information, we take it into account , movements are starting because the meaning of continuing the war is already being changed, of course, because we understand there in the kremlin that we can continue the war only on a certain territory and we we start to think or we sit down and talk at the security council of the russian federation and we are ready for a nuclear conflict , we need it at all in this situation, can we destabilize this country

internally than risk such things and then the following question arises from comrade naryshkin. and we need to maintain control over these territories, in this case, if they are not a bridgehead, but simply a zone where we reach from this ukrainian army, it may leave us some territories in this situation, they are not strategically important for us from the point of view further actions to show good will and it is obvious that this is such a sketch of this conversation , but this is what the russians are starting to talk about, and if you say that ukraine will not be a member of us now, then you do not even think so. they think well, it is good if it will not be a member nato means that we must continue to fight and use the territories we have already occupied as a bridgehead, especially since you understand that this is the same prize that allows you to have manpower without greatly worsening the social and political situation . in russia itself, we occupied donetsk and

luhansk regions. there is still no mobilization for the russian armed forces. so we can absolutely calmly kill ukrainians themselves with the hands of ukrainians, then in what situation do we think we will seize another part of some kharkiv region or something else and there we will mobilize those ukrainians let's let the boys who live there in russia, where we will give them russian passports, we will take away his russian army, let them go and fight against the ukrainians, and how long can you fight , you can even mobilize. in russia itself, do not conduct even hidden ones, just use ukrainian citizens who have russian passports, it is not a question of whether they don't take anything, no one will ask, you won't understand in a state of martial law like cannons for meat. well, it's great, we don't get great results here, of course, ukraine, we don't we will destroy ukraine, of course, we will not turn it into our satellite, we will simply continue military actions so that it is not taken into nato, the task is at least

for what, and then we will see if there will be a change of power in the united states, in france, in germany, maybe in france the picture will win, why don’t we wait, if i know that i putin and i are going to be the president of russia until 2036. how old will president biden be in 2036? do you know how old he is? 96, well, great. so we will outlive president biden, really. 96 and how old will president trump be in the 36th year is now 76 years old, 90 years, so it means that all these people will not be there, only all the other people will be macron 's term of office is ending well, i'm not talking about the terms of o. biden can only have one term, that's a ramp even if he wins only two i even i don't know two or one, it's a very good question for american legislation, if you lose your positions, can there be two more terms or not? can there be only one

? well, relatively speaking, that is, we are waiting for the german government to give in to some other political forces, and the rating of the parties may increase. -is the alternative for germany is not only now professional europe, the ratings of far-right parties from portugal to poland are increasing because the worsening of the economic situation as a result of him being from ukraine, it is obvious and how i wanted it to be like that, what could not be if you spend so much money to support your economy after the pandemic and here war intervenes, migration, the need for military aid and the crisis with energy resources , of course, that is why portugal does not have a crisis with energy resources. portugal is part of the european union in which

the locomotive is germany, in which there is this crisis because germany is forced to reorient itself to gas, which is much more expensive than the russian pipeline before the war. and that's all. this shows signs of the pace of development of any economy, and therefore boxing nationalists are simply focused more on domestic politics and promises they give journalists, you can take money from the cream of the crop, and all these parties , the confederation of independent poland, vox in spain , the marin lippin party in france, the league of e-e salvini, who are getting new and different supporters, what we are now just sighing with it is a relief when we learn that somewhere this offensive was stopped, for example in greece, where many were afraid of it ; for example, it happened in estonia, where many feared that the far-right would come to power with a completely different agenda, that aid to ukraine

did not happen, that is, every time we simply sigh with relief, look at what happened in bulgaria, for example, the pro-russian party improved its representation in the parliament with each election, so analysts said that if there were another early election, they will simply come to power and then two parties, one of which we wanted to deal with the other because they called them vile corruptors and people of the old school and everyone in the world and we are new faces, we are from the new world and so on , they went to form a coalition in which even they will change the prime minister, they don't even want to sit together in the same river , let's say it will be yours - our government for nine months , then your people in the city, then our people in the city, it's the same as the fact that now the servants of the people have created a beetroot with european solidarity and

they said that yarmak will be the prime minister for nine months, and poroshenko for the next nine, and by the way, i will say that it will be like that, of course. well, after the next parliamentary elections, of course, because after the next parliamentary elections, these forces will have a simple the choice is either to form such a government or to allow the so-called peace party into power, the slogan of which will be improved relations with moscow, this party will have such a representation in the parliament that they will have to save themselves politically by being a supporter of volodymyr zelenskyi negotiate with petro poroshenko and vice versa, this will create a situation as equal as in bulgaria, because this peace party will not say that it is in alliance with moscow, about this government that has led to such a situation, we are the conditional party of the aristocrat, the party of the aristocrat, arresting zelensky, it will be called that he may already want to be the president. he cannot be the president of such a ukraine as georgia is now , and he can have the support of a huge number

of our compatriots after the war, i even convince you of this. it will increase even more, it is necessary to understand that ukrainian society has not changed much in these months, er, it simply anesthetizes the electorate of those who are not very patriotic, who are in favor of the russian language, for not everything is so marked friendship with russia, who thinks that this is what the government wants put your eggs in different baskets, but bulgarian president rumed radio, who is also essentially the same type of politician as our leaders, he is leaning towards moscow, but not so as to openly say so, and he treated these pro-russian forces absolutely well, but he absolutely did not want them to come to power because they largely have a political program that contradicts his own program and he did not want to depend on them, but with such a moderate position in relation to moscow, he, as

an authoritative person in society, provoked the strengthening of these pro-russian moods, and this happens very often with people who use their authority not to cure society of any disease, but to maintain power for the exploitation of complexes if you want in fact, what happened in bulgaria, what happened in georgia can happen at any moment after the war in our country, and it became easy to understand. and we can somehow prevent this process. the shock that people experience during the war, it's just that they will react differently politically to this shock, it's necessary to understand that now society is just living under anesthesia. and when the anesthesia wears off, everyone will have pain in different ways. what you read is, in principle, possible. this is wrong. the answer is that it is not possible, we have to work as a society

, and again, another important recipe for preventing such things is national unity, this is not an attempt by certain political forces who are afraid of losing the majority, to receive a huge number of questions after the war, to destroy competitors already today and this understanding by these political forces and their leaders, starting even from the head of the state, that only the consolidation of political forces of a democratic national orientation promises those who are in power today at least a life in freedom i don't say water conservation because i believe that if people come to power and are oriented towards peace and moderation, they will jail them for 10 years, and by the way, so that all these thoughts of mine are not considered schizophrenia, i will ask one question. and where is my apology?

the president of the republic of georgia, mykhailo saakashvili, is in prison because this is revenge of the power, not the power, but because this is what comrades from the kremlin wanted for mykhailo saakashvili, who was ready to resist their violent actions against georgia before saakashvili you can treat zelensky differently. he is a complex person with an authoritarian streak, and many people can treat zelensky differently. we are not talking about that. we are talking about the fact that zelensky is a symbol of how ukraine today resists russian aggression. are responsible for precisely this sector of support, which means that these political forces who want to change vector from resistance to finding a balance with all neighbors for the sake of preventing more of it, especially since we are not being taken anywhere so

far, can consider it a good reward for russia to she didn't do anything wrong, those people who fought with moscow will be imprisoned. that's why she's a simple politician, not for that, and it will be very wrong for that, but for corruption, for the abuse of various official decisions, they'll find her for what. and it seems to me that taking into account this experience of mikhail saakashvili, the incumbent president should not think about preserving power after the war, i should think about preserving freedom after the war. and if there is preservation of freedom, it will be possible to think about political prospects. anti-patriotic forces and how to prevent anti-patriotic forces from coming to power in the conditions of the forecast

, do not quarrel with the patriotic ones, it is absolutely correct . views will also be affected by this short-sightedness of the current government, therefore, we have a common task to prevent the renaissance of those who see the future of ukraine exclusively in the paradigm of what is the difference, and what is the difference, they defended the country simply because the world it was good, this statement was one step towards finding a common language with the president of the russian federation. let it not be vladimir putin . by the way, sometimes russia attacked georgia . vladimir putin was not even the president of the russian federation, well, he was the prime minister. so on. by the way, under putin what is happening to him, what is he talking about with his favorite people, he does not want to go out on a straight line with him to answer questions, i think that you spit on this people, now the high bell tower, he already liked such conversations

nothing right, he liked to talk about what when these talks about what were an important part of the existence of the regime when it was an authoritarian regime connected with the people by a social agreement of the right to money, we have a petrodollar and the leader of such a regime likes to talk to people because they hate him oh thank you for everything , o alladynadievich, put a christmas tree, please, on the central square, oh, you see. i don’t have any water, tell me, you’re so wonderful. oh, how lucky we are to be president, oh, vladimir vladimirovich , our sun is nice, you’re sitting here. but if you don't have petrodollars, but there are power structures to kill all these people, if they don't like you, put them in prison for 25 years. why not waste your time. let the sand talk to them. i think this is just the next level of development of dictatorships. there are dictators who like

to talk to people. and appear on the balconies, conditionally speaking, such as mussolini are dictators whom compatriots have seen several times during the 30 years of their rule, and while there, for example , the portuguese dictator stalazar is there, because you understand the different needs of the regime, it's just that putin's regime has moved to the phase of anonymity government when we don't even know putin no putin a double no double went didn't go when it doesn't matter what he says and it seems to me that he is just in this state i'm not talking about what i'm talking about was over 50 years old, who liked to sit for six hours at press conferences. and now we are talking about a person who is 70 years old, like me, about whom , by the way, we never knew anything about him, his family, his daughter, his granddaughter. yes,

his castle is in that gelindzhik there are these for striptease how is it it's called pylons, normal for a boy, fsb cigars, i'll tell you. this is exactly what it says about the real personal level of this person who just sits and looks at the pylon , that's all the whole dream, life has finally come true. there was such a thing, there is no such thing, intellectual abilities also speak a lot of money. thank you very much, mr. vitaly, for a wonderful broadcast