[000:00:00;00] i explained to the members of the tender committee that there was a question of 6 billion saved funds. i tried to convince them. believe me, we left there in the middle of the night. from the tender committee, we went there again in the morning and let's go. let's say it again. if i hadn't seen what was happening during all these procedures, i would have said that it was a victory , but we were voted the first positions of the canvas. yes , we had technical rooks of players like fops voted for their rejection because they do not meet the qualification requirements and they did not submit the documents they were supposed

to submit, but you know i left the ministry of defense one phrase kept ringing in my head это было еще тот бой mowgli из мультиныы yes, from the cartoon remember, honestly, i didn't think that at this stage we would start to bend and bend. i don't know how to say it correctly, but i could also tell you that this is a victory, if only for one thing, but these protocols were supposed to be hung up on friday on it's clear what didn't happen. what's next? i plan to come to the state procurement department at 9:00 a.m. on monday and sit next to the person who will post the protocols and just watch how she will decide. if this doesn't happen, i have more information that the minister of defense at the time when we were sitting in the tender committee

, the cabinet of ministers sent its appeal regarding the extension of contracts for an indefinite period of time, and everything else is simply on the extension of contracts . wow, the minister somehow commented on this for you the situation may have been managed to be contacted, that is, it’s still normal. you can return, you can sign a new one, and you can provide the military with everything you need already in the future, but continue what was. why do it, why even in the political sense, to commit suicide now, you understand. you are trying to ask me where the logic is there are similar actions. i also don’t understand why. i also don’t understand . does the minister understand that everything that will happen

will be carried out on a play? besides, yes there was a lawsuit, i just forgot about it, i already forgot and you understand that much, you already know it is more interesting than watching game of thrones because there is so much going on that you even forget what happened right after the opening of the trades, not the opening after the trading was completed the next day, one of the suppliers of e- who are now supplying food to the army, filed a lawsuit against all 22 rafts that were exhibited , only thanks to the publicity, only thanks to the fact that a lot of people got involved , journalists got involved , the public got involved. i went to that court a lot people came i was amazed to be honest and on the same day, uh, this company , through its representative, took the court position again . why is this being done? i don't know, but i already

said about the victory. yes, we voted that this is a protocol, if only one thing, but i i want to see the signed contracts, if they are signed, then i will say that this is a victory, because you know, i am saying what i have seen over the past few days , and how it happened, i cannot say, because i will once again emphasize the protocols that should have been posted transparently. on friday they don't resolved and now given. thank you for fighting and we understand how much strength it consumes in you . i would like them to be directed in a more constructive direction and there would not be those problems that require your focused attention. we will keep our finger on the pulse of dana yarov, head of the public anti-corruption council under the ministry of defense and head of the dream of the children of ukraine, we were in touch with us as we understand the system of providing

food in the army and it still remains an open question, taking into account certain actions that the members of the public anti-corruption council consider to be in a certain way sabotage on the part of the leadership of the ministry of defense. i emphasize. congratulations, mr. pavla. glory to ukraine . glory to the heroes. thank you for your work in the front-line territories of both the ukrainian east and the ukrainian south. volunteers of the red cross of ukraine are regularly in in the hottest locations, trying to provide all the necessary assistance to people suffering from hostilities, they are the first to enter the de-occupied territories , they are the first to provide the first money to people so that they can simply function, and in fact

we have a lot to thank and praise for the ukrainian red cross, but we need to be very correct and careful you know how to distinguish the wheat from the chaff, and it is fair that somewhere there is anger at the international committee of the red cross, which has enormous resources, but very often does not use its functionality, so once again i emphasize the ukrainian red cross . thank you . international committee of the red cross. question mark. kaniv hpp from the russian federation this is another challenge for all of ukraine, for ukrainians, certainly for

people living in kherson , zaporizhzhia, mykolaiv and odesa regions for the whole of ukraine as a whole, but definitely for our volunteers and from the first second, in fact, in this emergency situation , our volunteers are really on the spot, more than 200 volunteers are actually working in the zone of this natural disaster, this is one more time i want to film a disaster and this is actually of the humanitarian disaster associated with the aggression of the russian federation, the main direction of our activity was immediately aimed at the evacuation of people, and here, not together with the state emergency service, we joined the work, and as of today, more than 3 000 people have already been evacuated, and already 1,000 people - this

is already the mykolaiv region, the red cross of ukraine focused its attention primarily on bedridden people, on people who are chained to bed, lonely people , here we are together with social services well, in fact, at those addresses that we have, there are some social services, and on calls e went to these people and took them from their homes , transported them to medical institutions or to other points in the social services, so to speak , that is on your screens domestic animals domestic animals we also deal with them and we are forced to because we do not want to throw these living creatures to, well, let's say, to death , that's why we also engage

in humanitarian aid, which is one of the main types of our activities. we continue to do this in the kherson region, to provide people with humanitarian help well, plus definitely evacuated people, from our side we try to provide them with all the products and medicines and basic necessities , in particular, the means of sin, as well. excuse me , one important thing is that this is also an exclusive what does the red cross of ukraine do? psychological help is a very important thing that we also conduct primarily among the evacuees, mr. pavlenko . joint actions with the state emergency

service of ukraine and the national police of ukraine. that is, this is a responsible approach, and we had several precedents. god forbid that this becomes a trend, although it is extremely scary and dangerous, successful evacuation from the left bank is there at least some possibility that your organization of representatives of the occupiers as volunteers may be allowed to take away these poor people and do they perceive you first of all as ukrainians and you are targets for them, of course, we do not advertise these actions, we speak for today day that there is absolutely no official possibility for us to take away people from the left bank, although there were definitely such appeals, but we perfectly understand why the russian federation does not allow people

in. well, representatives of public organizations and volunteers and representatives to things of international organizations such as the un such as the international committee of the red cross. why are they not allowed to the left bank ? we saw this similar situation in mariupol when mariupol was surrounded, when the international organization and the red cross of ukraine made their way there to evacuate people from mariupol, we were all denied the same story about the prevention of the mission of international organizations to the prison in olenivka where there was an explosion and where ukrainian prisoners of war were destroyed, why is russia doing this? i understand that she is committing war crimes and blowing up the kaniv kakhovskaya hpp - this is a war

crime and definitely the russian federation is doing everything to hide these war crimes and the consequences of these war crimes and that is why it is clear that they did not allow us in mariupol, they did not allow us in the deer park and they don't allow us to go to the left bank of the kherson region in order to hide the victims among the local population among the peaceful civilian population , because this is the recording of war crimes of the russian federation, that's why, unfortunately, the situation is yes, we state again and again that the russian federation is an aggressor state, it is a state and a criminal and we will definitely do everything so that those responsible for these criminals sooner or later end up in court and

receive their legal sentences in our country 20 seconds literally, i still want to understand if there is any contact simply at the level of cooperation , maybe uh, the ukrainian red cross and the international committee of the red cross, uh, is it possible, if not with hands, not with people, they help, maybe with other resources, very in short, look, first of all, they help us within the scope of the red cross of ukraine , that is, they transfer part of the humanitarian aid to us through us. refers to inter-state relations here, the international committee of the red cross works directly with the government directly from the president's office, we are not participants in those negotiations

, obviously, that's why well, let's say it's different level of responsibility another level of communication thank you and very briefly many ukrainians have generators left from difficult winter times thank god there is no great need in the rear cities should we now provide these capacities to the residents of kherson oblast which is completely without power supply almost well let's say the affected areas briefly look i would urged everyone to listen to what the central authorities say, in particular , the kherson military-civil administration , the state service for emergency situations of the red res, in particular, because, well, the last sometimes the roads to kherson were almost completely blocked due to the fact that people were taking motor boats, which as of today there are already a sufficient number of them in the mykolaiv oblast of kherson, so we invite you to just listen to what they say, if there is such a need, there will be a shout and we will certainly all

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, information about everything that affects our a wallet, and informed means armed, watch the economic news project with andrii yanitsky on weekdays at 8:10 on espresso r , we will continue the live broadcast very soon in the programs of my colleagues, in particular, they will talk about if he is being forced by all the communist party to sign contracts with the ministry of defense of the russian federation prigozhyn i strongly disagree with this, or the conflict between these two is growing , so to speak. well, next, about the prospects of joining the eu and the supply of weapons to ukraine. this will be discussed in ukraine on the air of french

of the france 24 tv channel, in a moment a lively discussion broke out in the studio about how to end the war in our country. see more on espresso. returning to the program , europe speaks. ukraine continues to put pressure on the eu and gs7 , preparing military actions aimed at ousting russian troops from the country . president volodymyr zelenskyy carried out the world tour of france, germany and italy on may 20, zelenskyi made a diplomatic stop at the summit of the g7 countries in japan, he welcomed the decision of the usa to support the international coalition of fighter jets for ukraine calling it a historic time, there are huge risks in the event of any escalation, one thing remains obvious: the end of this war is still far away, but how to end it is a question answering which today my

participants do not agree . democrats . welcome, let's start with you, katerina rot, because you are on this program for the first time, which is quite unusual for someone who holds a position in the european parliament. so you do not support the supply weapons to ukraine. that is, you are for the fact that individual countries have concluded agreements with ukraine if they want it. thank you very much for inviting me to the program for the first time. i am very pleased and happy to be here. yes, my position, perhaps the position of the minority, is that i do not support the supply of weapons to ukraine as a whole. i am against the common european position on this matter. i respect the right of some member states to take such a position, but this is their own decision and i do not agree with the pan-european position to do

it collectively at the eu level. i also speak against the possibility of financing ammunition and weapons for ukrainians, do you want to maintain neutrality in the current situation? i don't want to interfere in how other countries act, if there is a nato position, that's fine for me, but i don't think that the thought itself is a military operation and the eu is a military organization therefore, the european union should not have such a position, since it is contrary to our treaties and politicians, so i think that the position of the eu is to be an honest broker or rather a mediator between the two sides of the conflict, precisely for this the european union was created 70 years ago and this is what we must continue to do. this is a reliable position. what do you think today when we are in such a situation when ukraine is in a situation

of legitimate defense ? connection and responsibility to have his say and influence how the world order is structured, then he is not going to stop at ukraine, he is interested in controlling the black sea, he is trying to control much more than one piece of territory, he wants to use it as a logistics hub or a military base against the world that we defend. i understand that such an impression was formed after the visit to moldova, i had such an impression before, in fact, my position was formed a long time ago. anticipate and use our diplomatic power , remembering that people like putin understand only when we show power

in our diplomacy and not only in words when last week i visited moldova and with by the committee on security and defense i felt the commitment of the people to the eu and we must accept this country because within the eu itself we tend to take peace for granted here we must accept this will and support what we stand for is protection in economic and other aspects at the same time we have be careful and do not look for easy ways to become a member of the eu - it is a very long road that consists of many goals that must be achieved in order to improve the lives of people in your country and we all felt that war is very close and how it affects people especially when we arrived at the border with transnistria, let's talk about the issue of membership in the eu in order to develop a little opinion about vladimir

putin . i wanted to ask this question to kateryna. leadership in the kremlin that now is the time to try to reach him. of course , we should not just make these big speeches, as we can and do based on the position of joseph borel, but in fact we are just arguing and shouting at putin and about putin and many countries of the european union, it may sound rude, but they use this opportunity to solve historical issues with russia, the problem for me is that people are dying on the battlefield and that the war is still going on at the borders with my ukraine because i am from slovakia, which borders with ukraine , we have many refugees from ukraine and this is a big problem for the citizens of my country as well. we should be the ones who ask for a peaceful discussion. i am very glad that finally, after

a year and a half, denmark has made a request for peace talks we should have done this much earlier, we should have insisted on this as a european union, this is our mission, this is our goal , this is the constitution of the european union, a peace institution that was created in the 50s of the century . just after the end of the wars in europe, this is in our dna and i do not understand why are we still talking about ammunition and weapons and not about the peace process, isn't the peace process in the conditions of war based on concessions and this is a question worth a million so let's imagine that i am unarmed bambi what would prompt me to negotiate peace and with a lion my vision of peace is a problem in because the lion sees only food ukraine has nothing we must give her weapons i fully support the idea of ​​providing fighter jets they say there are certain risks at stake the biggest risk is right here on our doorstep if we don't do this it will be like bambi negotiating with the lion his

they will just eat it and then it will be our turn, especially for such countries as slovakia , moldova, and neighboring countries, that is , no negotiations are necessary. i have to do both, if i am bambi and want to negotiate with a lion about having a lot of weapons because it will be a kind of balanced force we must use diplomacy but also use force and peace can only be when aggression stops otherwise there will be no peace and it will only be under the root that's the whole difference but we need to think about a way out and there will be no way out in favor of justice if it means that ukraine should lie down to be run over by russia . i think that this is a very idealistic and pragmatic approach. i am a very pragmatic person and what is happening in ukraine is very rational happening since 2014 this is not what started last year it is not the same then we were silent or talked about it and suddenly when

the full scale invasion started we started sending weapons but the fact is that the weapons will stay there someday the day will come and this conflict will end for me the task is that we have to stop in stop this war we have to stop how do you want to stop the war so that zelensky and ukraine say we are enough we give up the fact is that we are sending more and more weapons this is not the way to end the war it is about a request for peace, but how can you ask for peace when you are attacked, it is a request to sit at the same table, not to support one or the other side of the conflict, but to really ask them to sit at the negotiating table, and this is our task, because we are the international community, i absolutely do not agree, this is our mission and we must do it as the european union and not just stand and talk like military experts in the european union russia continues to attack ukraine killing

innocent people raping women and children how can you despite all this call members the parliament should not react, especially when we work in such an important institution. we must be aware of what is happening for this and we are elected, so when i see all this , i believe that we should support ukraine , which is located on european territory, we understand your very different positions on this a specific question, but briefly about ukraine's membership in the eu, i will mention that you both share a similar position, with your permission , i will answer first today i want ukraine to become a member of the eu, but you say what will happen with weapons, that is why it is very useful for ukraine to have a european perspective, they need to fight corruption, they need to fight bureaucracy, they need to solve all kinds

of problems in the country, and the process will be long from this point of view. we must be there to help them work together because we need allies and we need to fight against russian influence not only in ukraine but also , for example, in africa. i think that for ukraine as well as for moldova there is no shortcut, they need to follow it step by step in order to become a member of the eu, do you think that ukraine's place is ultimately in the european union , they need to follow step by step to become members of the eu, so there can be no exceptions here, they need to go the same way that ukraine, which is now a member of the european union, has overcome. i think that their a place close to the european union and i agree with you on one thing if they fulfill all the conditions necessary for membership in the eu, but not so long ago we talked about ukraine as a corrupt

government as a corrupt country and suddenly war and we forget about everything, and you mentioned it, everything is erased from memory, we just send military ammunition and equipment there, pretending that everything is fine. we even promised them an accelerated path to membership in the european union, with which i do not agree, that's all that the country is is in a state of war, which contradicts the conditions of entry, secondly, they do not fulfill all the conditions and we simply promise them something that will not happen maybe in the next 20 or even more years and being from eastern europe, i know how difficult it was for us to become a member of the eu, looking at the post-soviet past, they need to take the same steps as everyone else. the fact is that we send weapons there without really knowing what happens to them . the weapons are used to protect ukrainians from the russians. well, we considered the military aspect as well as the prospect of ukraine's membership in eu i think on that note we will end our discussion i would like to thank kateryna for not