[000:00:00;00] people who survived the occupation want to help other people who are now losing their homes due to these floodings, and this and this is what captivates ukrainians despite everything that the russians are trying to humanize us, we remain with big hearts and understand the greater ukrainians, dear friends, the first hour our town hall has come to an end. now there will be news, and after that we will return to the stage with andrii, angelica, thank you, colleagues, against russian terrorists, the international criminal court has opened another case, and

in the meantime, the russian occupiers are robbing of people on the flooded left bank of the kherson oblast continues 474 additions of russia's full-scale war against ukraine in the artery of news on espresso in the angelika studio, one more case against russian terrorists, the international criminal court in gaza began investigating the undermining of the kakhova hpp dam, the other day , representatives of the icc visited the right bank of the flooded kherson oblast. president volodymyr zelenskyy of ukraine emphasized that he will in every way contribute to an independent investigation, provide access to the flooded territories, help with the search for witnesses and evidence because this investigation is very important for the security of the whole world, it is very important that the representatives of international justice saw the consequences of this russian terrorist attack with their own eyes and heard for themselves that

russian terror continues and will continue with the most cynical and brutal shelling of the flooded territory, we are already contributing and will continue to contribute to the maximum independent and independent objective investigation by the international criminal court, all our law enforcement officers and other institutions as much as possible those involved in this process are fleeing and blowing up everything, the occupiers followed by the pay of kakhovsky hpp destroyed a dam near the village of novodarivka, zaporizhzhia region. this was reported by the spokesman of the united press center of the village of borony in the tauriy region, valery shershen. they are trying to slow down the advance of ukrainian troops, but they will not be able to do it , the megate expert needs access to

the coolant tank of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, this is necessary to find out the reason for the discrepancy in the measurements is stated in the statement of the director general of the international atomic energy agency, rafael grusi, after the dam was blown up, the water level dropped by more than five and a half meters, but the day before, energoatom said that near nikopol, the water level was 7.5 m lower than in the cooling pond. and this the money is enough for the needs of the station, he emphasized that a lot also requires access to the power distribution station from the state. and here in kherson, during the analysis of the debris, they found the body of a person who had fallen asleep in his own house and who came under fire from the occupiers, he said

the head of the city's military administration, roman gloomily, in the last day, the water level in the city fell by another 50 cm and now reaches approximately 3.5 m. in the evening, more than 3,800 houses are still in the water on the left bank of the temporarily occupied territories, 14 places and villages from kherson region and mykolaiv region have been evacuated , more than 3,700 people, including almost 400 children, are constantly monitored by experts we constantly monitor the sanitary-epidemiological situation, we take water quality every two hours , we take water samples, we conduct laboratory tests in order to prevent intestinal diseases from getting into this water, or bottled water, or water that is in the appropriate tanks and is delivered our citizens

should not allow the pathogens that will then lead to more serious and tragic consequences, meanwhile , the muscovites are looting the flooded villages on the left bank of the kherson region, in particular, they are looting houses in the occupied settlements in which the water is starting to go down. this is reported by the center of national resistance to the locals who were evacuated after the invaders blew up the kakhovo hydroelectric power plant. they do not allow them to return home. the occupiers have closed the entrance to the village and are actively looting them. this situation, in particular, in velyka kardashinka of the skadovsky district , even houses where people have remained are being stolen , as well as in the bare people's harbor. locked up at school , passports taken away and not allowed home komsomol training of pilots, engineers and technicians on these details of the aircraft coalition

, our partners will focus on the following the minister of defense of ukraine, oleksiy reznikov, told rammstein, the meeting will be held on june 15 in brussels, in particular, the groups of pilots and service personnel who will learn to operate and maintain modern fighter jets will be determined, the commander of the air force , mykola luschuk, has already identified the officers responsible for this, also at rammstein , ukraine's need for ammunition and artillery shells will be determined now the ukrainian heroes have already officially liberated the settlement of makarivka near blagodatny and neschenno in donetsk region , the deputy minister of defense confirmed ukraine's hanna the painter is stubbornly counted from the evacuation, the twelve-year-old boy still remains in the avdiivka, he is the last child who has not yet been removed from the city. the head of the avdiiv city military administration, vitaliy

barabash , said this to the press. little from the police and then they themselves disappeared for more than a month already and the parents are hiding before that they came and received humanitarian aid, well let's say they were in sight now they are not hiding, they are no longer receiving humanitarian aid on their behalf, no one was receiving it, there were thoughts that maybe they had already left the city , the information on all relatives who left the city was checked, they are nowhere to be found, they were not registered anywhere as a temporary transfer of a person further to the operational information from the general staff, the russians are concentrating their efforts on the lyman , bakhmut, avdiiv, and mariinsky directions, the heavy battles of the past day continue there , 25 combat clashes took place, the enemy made

one missile and 36 air strikes carried out 38 attacks on the positions of our troops and populated areas, the enemy advanced unsuccessfully in the belgorivka area in the bakhmut and avdiiv directions , tried to press but was unsuccessful, our defenders repelled all enemy attacks in the area of ​​the city of maryinka in the zaporizhia and kherson directions, the enemy is defending three minor children remained orphans in the war zone in donetsk region, their mother suddenly died of pneumonia, and their father passed away a few years ago, the police and volunteers helped the children reach kyiv where their cousin was waiting for them, our journalists spoke with the family, their story continues in the story, 12-year-old yana, 9-year-old denis and seven-year-old anya became complete orphans

, the children lived in the village of new york, near bakhmut, with their mother, but recently she died of pneumonia and the child was left without parents in the war zone , at first they were sheltered by their relatives, but the situation in the city became more and more tense for a few days . while we were there, the police came to evacuate the children, they were even afraid of themselves evacuation because they knew many stories about how the occupiers fire at cars and trains that are trying to leave during one of these firefights, yana's classmate was also injured for her mother. well, after intervals, they immediately

took them there when it was over, they immediately took them to the hospital right next to the drive through a cool place i thought that they would be very strong . children were evacuated to the car by the police unit near angel. the operations were carried out as quickly as possible, since this area is almost constantly under fire. the children were taken to hospital, and from there the volunteers took them to kyiv, there was a problem with taking the children out, so you can take them out, and there was a problem with the aunt , the aunt could not leave, then they took the aunt near the angel and we all came to kyiv together, so the children are in principle more or less in normal condition in general, the children are doing very well. despite their situation in the capital , a cousin who left new york a year ago was waiting for

the children. that's why we are dear to kyiv, well, that's all. so we passed very quietly. the only thing was that the little one sometimes cried at night, but she slept differently. well, when she was sleeping with her mother, she asked to sleep so that she was not alone. little by little, the ditlakhs are adapting to a new place. they told us that in kyiv it's not scary and fun this summer they will have more training, they need to catch up with the school program, because because of the war, the little one almost didn't study, and it won't be easy for the future guardian of the children, from now on she will worry about four kids at once, we leave her as a card if you can, help kateryna galko's big family andriy verstyuk for

the espresso tv channel, thank you for telling them so far for this hour. at 8:10 a.m. after the news, we turn on and talk with leading experts of ukraine, what happened in our country in terms of money and related things, today we talk traditionally with sergey fursa , investment banker, representative of the dragon company capital by p. serhii congratulations congratulations so, we have a lot of news today, i am not sure that we will make it all, but let's start with the venice commission , which recommended to ukraine to postpone the implementation of the law on oligarchs for some time, eh, what is going on. did the oligarchs disappear by themselves and this the problem has disappeared. is there something wrong with the law ? have they changed their mind at all about carrying out

oligarchization to the oligarch? i apologize for monday well , the fight against oligarchs - this is important, they simply do not fight with a special law about oligarchs, because this is a vivid manifestation of populism, which the fight against the oligarchs does not work, it is the fight against corruption and the establishment of the rule of law, this law from the very beginning was a dubious and negative conclusion of the venice commission. i think that now there will actually be a tougher reaction , not only after the war there is such a fact that georgians and moldova copied their laws from our law, and according to these laws , it is in georgia and in moldova that they only gave a hard nothing, it's some kind of bullshit and it's illegal in ukraine because of the war. and it does not change the law on oligarchs is not a normal law, it is not acceptable for the european union and it does not fight against oligarchs. and this is key . that is, we were politely refused yes, but

they sent us to war, and asked us not to cancel the law at all , to postpone its implementation, and in this way let's just say they treated ukraine, which is surrounded by russia , more leniently than other countries that adopted this law. i understand and understand your opinion and i hope that they will really fight against the oligarchs, but just with the methods you said where monopolization and the rule of law, but it is not an easy path in relation to the prices that we now see in stores , this is what the state statistics service says in our country that the growth of prices is slowing down , that is , they continue to grow, but not as fast as before. .3 percent we talked about this with you just last week , as far as i remember, we talked about bonds that now offer more interest and i

, by the way, on your advice well, not on your advice , but relying on your numbers, i decided anyway buy a few military bonds, this is not an investment recommendation, everyone has to decide for themselves whether it is necessary to do it or not , but regarding inflation, why are prices falling even though now is the hot phase of the war, we see that battles are going on every day and, moreover, such things happen disasters like the kakhovka hydroelectric power plant and the prices are slowing down their growth well, in fact, the fighting that is going on now , including the terrible disaster and putin's war crime at the kakhovka hydroelectric power plant, had no effect on the economy, but in reality what were the main drivers of external high inflation last year, devaluation of the hryvnia and

the beginning of the war, which destroyed logistics? thanks to our western partners and because of some significant pressure. now we do not see slow inflation, it is now 15 , for example, dragon capital's forecast for the end of the year falls by about 11%. it's anything over 10 this is all that high inflation, but the dynamics is very, very pleasing, therefore it has simply exhausted the factors that caused a significant increase in prices, and therefore due to inertia, prices are increasing, but not so fast, but at the same time , the national bank of ukraine receives a key rate, the discount rate at the level of 25%, not has been changing it for quite a long time, this means that he borrows money from banks at these interest rates . well, accordingly, it is very strange that the bank sets such a high rate when inflation is slowing down. well, if we had a high rate of

25, inflation was 15 for a long time, then we could speaking of this, we are now seeing a radical reduction in inflation in the first months of the year, and the national bank simply hasn't had time to react . this is absolutely normal. the national bank should check to make sure that this is a stable trend and then start lowering the discount rate just as the nagging from the regulator, nagging from the national bank would be a problem if only there, inflation went somewhere, a little lower, he lowered the rate, inflation went higher, one raised it again , it became this is a problem, that is, not the closest ones, not the closest ones to the monetary committee, where the change of the accounting rates, it can be expected that the rate will be reduced and, well, this decision must be approved later by the board of the national bank , i do not rule out that in the near future the national bank will move at a faster pace than it expected before reducing the rate, will

it be in the near future balls, they will decide to wait another month to make sure again of the stability of the trend, we'll see... but again, it's absolutely normal, it's just a gradual process. the national bank shouldn't twitch. well, the rate cut should lead to cheaper loans. as far as i'm concerned i understand, well, at least in peacetime. and now this mechanism works, whether it will work or not, see if the loans can be cheaper, you just won’t be given them by anyone right away. in the matter of the fact that banks are very careful about risks, and during a war , it is not appropriate to expect active lending from banks because uncertainty is too high, risks are high, and so while the war continues , there will be no significant growth in lending. well, since we mentioned the national bank, there is one more piece of news from the central bank that an incomplete package of documents for the acquisition of a significant stake in the capital of sensbank, sensbank is reminded of the former alpha bank, which is a subsidiary. well, again, there is a potential

buyer for this bank, and theoretically, this should somehow slow down the process of nationalization of the bank, which has been unfolding for quite a long time through the verkhovna rada, is accepted amendments to the laws, eh? after all, nothing will save him and alpha alpha will be nationalized. well, i see that you want to save someone, eh , that's why there are these movements. makes such agreements, purchase and sale agreements of banks impossible, when one is a collector under sanctions, i may be wrong here, but i am quite skeptical about this submission, so it seems to me that, after all, if there is any flight, if there is a political will not to nationalize the bank then it will not be nationalized, we understand that, and now it rests exclusively on political will

, this process has been unfolding for quite a long time, but some concrete steps have already been taken , at least on june 6, the press service reported of the national agency for development and asset management, which has started a competitive selection process for a manager from the selection of a person who will manage real estate in kyiv, which is owned by alpha bank, that is, some physical steps are already being taken regarding nationalization, we will cancel why this is a physical step towards the nationalization of banks, if they are nationalized, they will work and real estate will also be under the control of the same bank, the management of the bank, maybe i'm wrong, maybe you're right, but i want clarify which real estate is in question, these are two non-residential buildings with a rather large total area of ​​more than one over 800

square meters, 1,000, the other 3,800 m² along chornovola and turgenivska in kyiv, as far as i remember. well, at least turgenivska is the very center, and chornovola don't you remember where it is? well, there is also a pavilion in the center on sofia street in kyiv. this is quite valuable property and this property has already been transferred to the management of the agency based on the decision of the investigative judge of the pechersk district court. do you think that will it be possible to successfully implement these objects or manage them, given how much criticism there is currently around the national agency for search and asset management , they say that their leader did not pass the temporary investigative commission, then he came and got confused in the numbers when his they asked how much property they have now under management . well, look. yes, judging by the court cases. what does this have to do with nationalization? it is in no way a plus for me, not a minus, but for the army, well, it is

a stillborn structure, in fact, and it is not works and judging by this, it simply cannot work. if you do something wrong from the very beginning, then the institute cannot work. in order for the institute to work from the very beginning, you must create it correctly as an independent body with competitions under the control of our western partners, and then there is a chance only a chance, not necessarily. does it work , but it didn’t happen that way, that’s why it didn’t happen to transfer something to the army, well, it’s such a story, well, i hope that either arbov will be reformed or that they will be emptied, yes. authority to other structures, because they are really critics. many of them, er, are critical of other structures, er, of the central authorities of ukraine, which we obviously cannot eliminate, but we can probably improve their work. ukraine, which was blamed for the fact that the purchases were not transparent enough. there was a very loud

column in the press about eggs at uah 17 per piece , i.e. a dozen - uah 170. the minister said that the documents were actually misunderstood. that there were not a lot of eggs there, and for some reason eggs were sold by weight, so here is the inspection report based on the results of the ministry of defense audit , the text of this report is classified, but in the state government service, that is, the state structure also confirmed that there were numerous abuses , in particular, they confirmed, er, they confirmed and the cost of eggs is uah 18 per piece, how can we reform the ministry or how can we get rid of corruption in the ministry of defense during the war , this seems to me to be very important for the ukrainian victory. well, look, it is impossible to make a certain an industry in ukraine where there will be no corruption. now, unfortunately, we see an increase in the principle of corruption during the war, and we can fight this phenomenon

. you can only deal with this phenomenon systematically. we have corruption, then it will be everywhere and opacity, of course, provokes even greater corruption. this is a completely natural process and we know all these stories of hundreds of years of war and hundreds of years during the war in the ministries of defense, all these conditional ensigns, quartermasters and so they continue to earn a lot of money, so unfortunately i will not have a recipe. i think that it does not exist in principle. how to overcome corruption specifically in the ministry of defense, it does not work like that. we either fight corruption systematically in the country or set the match in general. i will also add to the fact that we are discussing the quote of the head of the state audit service, alla basalaeva, in an interview with the hlavkom publication, that they used to buy uah 17 per piece, the eggs that they mentioned are uah 170 per dozen, forming an order according to the catalog is something that simplifies the procurement process. that was recorded insane receivables 100% advances of contracts and failure to fulfill them on

time by counterparties, unfortunately, there were no qualitatively selected counterparties, well, that is, they asked for 100% advance payment. moreover, the head of the state of the great service adds that they were not in a hurry to deliver, well, that is, the money is up front, then, as it was said in one, in one work, i will also mention one bank . that he works in russia, raiffeisen bank of ukraine has the right to take participation in the preferential credit program 5 7 9 i.e. to issue business letters of credit at a preferential e-e at a preferential rate is this an effective effective sanction e-e against raiffeisenbank of ukraine to force e-e him to leave his russian daughter to close leave russia nedont nor sister no

will affect the decision of the parent bank well look raiffeisen bank ukraine is a small bank that can slightly reduce its profitability due to these steps er raiffeisen bank of russia is a very important part of the whole raiffeisen game historically a very important part in the last year there half of the profit of the entire group was created precisely in russia, therefore any actions in ukraine cannot affect the decision of the parent bank regarding the decision to leave russia, what can affect raiffeisen bank is the pressure from the americans and europeans, we have seen this systemic pressure recently after saw that raiffeisen remained almost the only e-e hole that allows russian business to conduct its relations with the world. 50% of transactions crossing borders passes through this bank and now there is systemic pressure that should force it to leave but it is systemic pressure from the side of the ministry of finance of the united states. well, in ukraine, in some way, ukraine can influence or should be involved

. ukraine cannot influence in any way . well, simply. the only thing we can do is shoot ourselves in the foot at the ministry of foreign affairs. i think that it can, at least if you say that everything is solved in the states and in europe, then our ministry of foreign affairs should, well , raise this issue during every negotiation. also, since the bank is austrian, perhaps our austrian embassy should have worked more actively. they they are probably doing this. well, we understand that the influence of these factors will be minimal, the main thing is what effective years will our western partners take, and now the americans are taking these steps, we see that raiffeisen has actually reduced its activities in russia , there now , for example, dollar transfers were 50% commission, that is, they are squeezing this balan out of russia, on the one hand, making his operations less attractive, and on the other hand , the bank itself has already declared, and again, this is happening

under pressure from the americans, that they are developing the ways out of russia and activated these developments, so let's see. that is, you can put pressure there, but the pressure must be from the side, there is the central bank of europe and the ministry of finance of the united states, and not from the ukrainian national bank, so that is, it is clear, if there is still time uh, one question. let's talk about the cabinet of ministers, which handed over the ocean plaza shopping center in kyiv to the state property fund and um, to the state administration . it is one of the largest and most profitable shopping centers in the ukrainian capital. structures seem even with the entourage of vladimir putin, the russian president, it's good that he was taken away, of course. but is it time to transfer it to privatization now during the war, or will there be investors who would like

to invest in this business and buy it at specific auctions 50x50 i understand that this is mandatory must be sold or must everything be sold during the war right now or wait for the end of the war right there and then, we still do not know how long the war will last, yes it will last a year, six months or 5 years and do we have to wait for example from ocean plaza for 5 years this is an open question. but if we say what to do with it, if we decide not to sell it now, then everything should be held in an open and transparent competition without any additional conditions on the transfer of this asset to management, that is, an investor comes and says, i will give the state this much and provides such e- e.g. the profit is such and such, the profitability of this object for the near future while the war continues, and then as soon as the war ends , one, two, three months pass and privatization is carried out, this option is possible, that is,

it is possible to sell now immediately on privatization, yes. the price will be lower, but the state will have less corruption risks or lease it to the management, not uh, like a business, again, for garlic roasting at auctions at someone's election. it's just because they want beautiful things and while the war is going on, let the business manage now in kyiv, this object can be profitable, can bring money to the state . thank you, mr. serhiy, we had time to talk about all the prepared news. serhii fursai, investment banker, representative of the capital investment group, was on our air as usual. on mondays, and i'm andriy yanivskyi the host of this program. see you tomorrow at 8:10 a.m. live, together we will win darnytsia gel 10% in pharmacies podorozhnyk to you and