[000:00:00;00] this is not iran, which is under the international sanctions of the united nations, it will already be turkey , the united arab emirates, it will be the saudis , it will be the countries of central asia, kazakhstan and kazakhstan. well, it seems that in the negotiation process they managed to reach an understanding and kazakhstan internally limited the issues that concern carrying out financial transactions with the russian federation and, accordingly, through its banks, well, with the countries of the european union , at the same time, commodity imports passing through the territory of kazakhstan yes, and it concerns of household consumption yes or well consumer consumer needs of the russian federation he what is happening regarding the united reactions of the emirates and turkey well that is another problem well what kind of weather will aggravate the relations between the countries of the european union and directly turkey such countries as greece such countries as bulgaria such countries like hungary, which also depends on the voting for sanctions packages, god, they need

a complex vote, they somehow support, well, the restrictions that even if we are talking about greece, which concern of oil, they maintain economic ties with the russian federation by adhering to fixed prices. well, for example, they no longer want to go too, with such interests of theirs, so the inhibition occurs due to the fact that the pragmatic interest of the country, unfortunately , unfortunately, takes precedence over the value element, but it was expected and, as a matter of fact, andriy , we still have a minute left. and here you say it was expected and they are just slowing down. is there any mechanism within the eu that can be used? well , if not to press, then at least to motivate them to support these e-e restrictions of ukraine, the leader of the eu, such as france, germany, they are just looking for these weights yes, and these levers are usually found in the provision of other guarantees where it is possible to earn, let's call it that, to countries like that who lose from trade relations with

the russian federation, such an important one, let's say with hungary we had the construction of, in my opinion, three e-e corridors, and well, there were also gas pipelines and, accordingly, an oil pipeline , which should be implemented with the funds of the european union by 2017, and accordingly , hungary will become independent from the point of view logistics, in particular, the delivery of infrastructure, the possibility of delivering energy carriers, and at the same time, hungary and bulgaria are not able to give up the atom, just like france. 15 minutes , oh, seconds, i apologize. i.e., france will not refuse the enriched orang supplied from the russian federation, simply because it is impossible for it from a technological point of view , since it is a large state-owned enterprise

excessive costs, short-term prospects. i understood that we have to finish because time is inexorable. it was andrii in yegiryn. a political expert talked with him about a lot of interesting things and heard a lot of interesting opinions. i will quickly tell you the results of the vote. so 444 people did gave an answer to the question russia should stand trial for its crimes immediately 84% think after the war 12% think and your option 4% you can read your option in the comments on youtube well, i have to conclude with this an interesting program with interesting experts the world during the war we will meet next week with other topics and other experts we are looking for 15-year-old nastya lipunova and her 17-year-old sister oleksandra the girls disappeared in

mariupol on the first day of the full-scale war on february 24 of last year and where are they now it is still unknown, so i am asking everyone who sees me to look carefully at the photo of the girls , remember these faces, if anyone has suddenly seen the liponov sisters or knows where they might be, do not delay and call us on the hotline service magnolia children's search service with the short number 116,000 calls from any ukrainian mobile operator are free or write to the chat bot service of the search for children in telegram . during the war, they were very restless, every hour the situation only worsened rapidly due to the bombings, the family hid in the basement, but the shelling was far from the only problem of the residents of mariupol

. we did not have clean water, we even drank water technical from krynychki, then only the police. well, that’s all. the whole family was fed up. he didn’t drink. he couldn’t eat . they tell us honestly that it was very much from the stores. everything was looted. no pick-up. nothing. 15-year-old serhiy samoilov's lack of internet is why the boy wanted to leave mariupol . he was fascinated by computers and studied programs there . he tried to develop them . he created a server. что дома было было было не концевный на интернет программе, there is no problem there, it was a big problem, he was going to go to pokrovsk , serhiy is planning to go to his mother's friend in pokrovsk, this is also the donetsk region

, about 200 km from mariupol, and the boy's family did not dare to leave the house, so serhiy he went alone, it happened on march 6 , 4 p.m. my grandmother and i didn't let go because there was a lot of shooting around. well , to be honest, we didn't have anything to eat or drink at that time, and it was very scary. he took i had a backpack in it, a computer, and he was dressed like a young man, i’m talking to seryozha. come on, i thought he was walking around the house and would come back, and seryozha left the house and already when he left. i already understood that my wife and i did not keep him . serhii never made it home, the boy also did not return, and no one knows where he is now, but serhii’s mother still lives in mariupol, but he does not lose hope of finding his son, in the meantime, serhii’s father, who has been living separately for a long time and is now

in a territory not controlled by ukraine, is doing everything it is possible from my side to find serhii, in particular, i also turned to the office-butsman, you understand that they want to contact that party, yes, and find out, well, if the information is on that side , eh, but what was the export of many children eh to the russian territory, something moment, therefore sherbut is contacting from that side, so it is possible that the boy was taken to the territory of russia, but it is possible that he is still in the territory of donetsk region, so i am appealing to the residents of the temporarily occupied territory who may see this program on social networks in look at the photo of the child if anyone has seen boy after march 8 last year, does anyone know where he might be now, don't delay, dial the short number of the magnolia children's search service from any mobile operator 116 000 0 calls to the hotline from any ukrainian mobile operator are free. if there is no way

to call, write in the chat because of the child tracing service in telegram, any information is important , we have created a resource thanks to which you can report any crime against a child in any place at any time simply go to the site and report and we will launch all possible mechanisms for punishing the criminal of the top countries ua andriy yanivskyi again there is no economy on the espresso tv channel as usual on weekdays at 8:10 a.m. after the news, we turn on and talk with leading experts of ukraine what happened in our country in in terms of money and related things, today we are talking

traditionally with serhii fursa, an investment banker, a representative of the dragon capital company. from the venice commission, which recommended that ukraine postpone the implementation of the law on oligarchs for some time, what is this happening? did the oligarchs disappear by themselves and this problem disappeared? is there something wrong with the law? did they even change their mind to carry out oligarchization to the oligarch ? with the oligarchs - this is important, it is simply not fought with a special law about oligarchs, because it is a bright manifestation of populism that does not work , the fight against the oligarchs is the fight against corruption and the establishment of the rule of law this law from the very beginning was dubious and the negative conclusion of the venice commission. i think that now there will actually be a more severe reaction from this after the war, because there

is such a fact that georgians and moldova copied their laws from our law and based on these laws in georgia and in moldova they just gave a tough nothing. this is already some kind of bullshit and illegal in ukraine because of the war. i think that now the wording is softer, but it does not change the essence. the law on oligarchs is not a normal law, it is not acceptable for the european union and he is not fighting the oligarchs. and this is not the key. that is, we were politely refused, but they sent us to war and asked us not to cancel the law at all. i postponed its implementation, and in this way, let's just say, they took a softer approach to ukraine, which is under an attack on russia than on other countries that took this law i understood your opinion is clear and i hope that they will really fight against the oligarchs but simply with the methods that you said about

monopolization and the rule of law well, but this it is not an easy path regarding the prices that we now see in stores , here is what our state statistics service says that price growth is slowing down, that is, they continue to grow, but not as fast as before. and if we take it in annual terms, then prices have increased by 15.3 percent. we talked about this with you last week, as far as i remember, they talked about bonds that now offer more interest, and by the way, on your advice, well, not on your advice, but relying on your numbers , i still decided to buy a few bonds er, war money, this is not an investment recommendation, everyone has to decide for themselves whether it is necessary to do it or not, but with regard to inflation , why are prices falling, despite the fact that now is the hot phase of the war, we see that battles are going on every day , and moreover, such disasters as

at the kakhovsky hpp and prices are slowing down their growth well, in fact, the fighting that is going on now, including the terrible disaster and putin's war crime at the kakhovka hydroelectric power station, has little effect on the economy, and in relation to china , in fact, what are the main drivers of what there was high external inflation last year, the devaluation of the hryvnia and the beginning of the war, which destroyed logistics, all these factors have exhausted themselves, inflation is a reducer, and we import much less inflation , there is no devaluation of the hryvnia, we have preserved macro-financial stability, thanks to our western partners and because of that of some significant pressure. now we do not see, we see slowed inflation, it is now 15 our, for example, the game falls by about 11% at the end of the year. everything that is more than 10 is everything that is high inflation

, but the dynamics are very, very simple has exhausted the factors that caused a significant increase in prices, and therefore due to inertia, prices are rising, but not so fast, but at the same time, the national bank of ukraine receives a key rate, the discount rate at the level of 25%, and has not changed it for quite a long time, which means that it borrows money at these percentages by banks well, accordingly, it is very surprising that the bank sets such a high interest rate when inflation slows down. well, if our interest rate was high at 25 and inflation was 15 for a long time, then we could talk about it with you, we see now in the first months of the year a radical reduction in inflation and the national bank simply hasn't had time to react yet. this is absolutely normal. the national bank should look to make sure that this is a permanent trend and then start lowering the accounting start. just the nagging from the regulator, the nagging from the national bank would be a problem if only there inflation

went a little lower, he lowered the rate , inflation went higher, he again i raised the issue of this is a problem, that is, not the closest to the monetary committee where the change in the discount rate is being considered , you can expect that the rate will be lowered and well this decision must then be approved by the board of the national bank, i do not rule out that in the near future the national bank will move at a faster pace than it expected to reduce the interest rate, will it be at the next meeting, they will decide to wait another month to make sure again we will see the stability of the trend. but again, this is absolutely normal , it is just a gradual process. the national bank should not twitch. well, the reduction in the rate should lead to a decrease in the price of loans. as far as i understand, well, at least in peacetime. and now does this mechanism work or not, they won’t work look at the paintings there, they can be cheaper, you just won’t be given them by anyone right away , the question is that banks are very cautious about

risks, and during a war it is not appropriate to expect active lending from banks because the uncertainty is too high, the risks are high and therefore as long as the war continues, there will be no significant increase in crediting. well, since we mentioned the national bank, there is one more piece of news from the central bank that an incomplete package of documents for the acquisition of a significant stake in the capital of sense bank sense bank has arrived. i will remind you of this the former alpha bank, which is under sanctions. well, there is a potential buyer for this bank again, and theoretically, this should somehow slow down the process of nationalization of the bank, which has been unfolding for quite a long time through the verkhovna rada, amendments to the laws are adopted after all, nothing will save him and alpha alpha will be nationalized. well, i see that someone wants to save, and that's why there are these movements. and as for whether it will save, i don't know because

, as far as i understand, the very essence of the sanctions makes such sales and purchase agreements impossible banks, when one is a collector under sanctions, i could be wrong here, but i am quite skeptical about this submission , so it seems to me that after all, even if there is actually some kind of flight, if there is a political will not to nationalize the bank, then it will not be nationalized. we understand, but even here now it rests exclusively on political will , this process has been unfolding for quite a long time, but some concrete steps have already been taken , at least on june 6 , the press service of the national agency for development and asset management reported that it had begun competition for the selection of a manager for the selection of a person who will manage real estate in kyiv that is owned by alpha bank, that is, some physical steps are already being taken regarding nationalization

, we will cancel why this is a physical step to nationalization because it is also a bank if it is nationalized, it will work and the real estate will also be under the control of the same bank, the management of the bank , maybe i'm wrong, maybe you're right, but i want to clarify which real estate is in question, it's two non-residential buildings, quite large. with a total area of ​​more than one over 800 square meters 1,000 the other 3,800 m², along chornovola and turgenivska in kyiv - this is as far as i remember well, at least turgenivska is the very center, and chornovola, you won't remember, is located well, there is also a pavilion in the center on sofia street in kyiv. this is quite a valuable property and this property has already been transferred to the management of the agency based on the decision of the investigative judge of the pechersk district court. do you think that it will be possible to successfully implement these

objects or to manage them, given how critical the critics are at the moment is around of the national agency for search and asset management say that their manager did not go to the temporary investigative commission, then he came and was confused about the numbers when they asked him how many properties they currently have under management, well, look. yes, judging by the court cases. regarding nationalization, this is in no way a plus for me, not a minus, but regarding the army, well, this is a dead-born structure, in fact, and it does not work. judging by this, it simply cannot work . if you do something wrong from the very beginning, then the institute cannot to work, so that the institute would work from the very beginning, you have to create it correctly as an independent body with competitions under the control of our western partners, and then there is a chance, only a chance, not necessarily. will this institute work, but it didn't happen that way , that's why handing something over to the army, well, it's a story like that well, i hope that arbov

will either be reformed or even abolished, and somehow liquidated and transferred to other structures, because indeed there are many critics of it, and there are also criticisms of other structures of the central authorities of ukraine and which we obviously cannot eliminate in any way but we can probably improve their work, i will now say very carefully i am talking about the ministry of defense of ukraine, which was accused of the fact that procurement was not carried out transparently enough in the press there was a very loud column about eggs for 17 hryvnias per piece, i.e. a dozen - 170 hryvnias, the minister said that in fact they misunderstood the documents , that there were not a lot of them, but for some reason eggs were sold by weight, so here is the inspection report based on the results of the ministry of defense audit, it came out

the text of this act itself is classified, but in the state and public service, that is, the state structure also confirmed that there were numerous abuses, in particular, they confirmed that the cost of eggs is uah 17 per piece, how can we reform the ministry of defense or how can we get rid of corruption in the ministry of defense during the war this seems to me to be very important for the ukrainian victory. well, look, it is impossible to create a certain industry in ukraine where there will be no corruption. now , unfortunately, we see an increase in the principle of corruption during the war and we can fight this phenomenon only systematically you can't say oh, look at our ministry of defense, let's talk about corruption and in other er and industries let it remain , no, if we have corruption, it will be everywhere and lack of transparency, of course, provokes even greater corruption. this is a completely natural process and we know all these stories hundreds of years of war and hundreds of years during the war in the ministries of defense, all these conditional ensigns, quartermasters and so on earn a lot of money, so unfortunately i will not have a recipe. i think that it does not exist in principle. how to overcome corruption

specifically, the ministry of defense does not work like that, we either fight corruption systemically in the country or we do not fight at all. i will also add that we are discussing the quote of the head of the state audit service alla basalaeva in an interview with the glavkom publication that they bought 17 uah per piece, the eggs mentioned about a dozen, uah 170, forming an order according to the catalog somewhat simplifies the procurement process. so, i will skip it, i will only say that we recorded insane receivables, 100% advance of contracts and failure to fulfill them on time by counterparties, unfortunately, it was not of high quality the selected counterparties were asked to make 100% prepayment. moreover, the head of the state of the great service adds that they were not in a hurry to deliver, well, that is, the money is up front, then, as it was said in one, in one

work, i will also mention one bank . that he works in russia raiffeisen bank of ukraine the right to participate in the preferential credit program 5 7 9 i.e. to issue business letters of credit at a preferential rate e-e at a preferential rate is it valid valid a sanction against raiffeisen bank of ukraine to force him to leave his russian daughter to shut down and leave russia before his sister will not affect the decision of the parent bank, well, look, raiffeisen bank ukraine is a small bank that can slightly reduce its profitability due to these steps e raiffeisen bank of russia is a very important part of the whole raiffeisen game, a historically very important part, over the last year there half of the profit of the entire group was created precisely in russia, so any actions in ukraine cannot affect the decision of the parent bank regarding the decision to leave russia, what can affect raiffeisen bank, it is pressure from

the americans and europeans, we have seen systemic pressure lately after seeing that raiffeisen remained almost the only e-e hole that allows russian business to conduct its relations with the world 50% cross-border transactions pass through this bank and now there is systemic pressure that should force it to leave , but it is systemic pressure from the side of the ministry of finance of the united states. well, in ukraine, in some way, ukraine can influence or should be involved ukraine cannot influence this in any way. well, it’s simple. the only thing we can do is shoot ourselves in the foot. well, the ministry of foreign affairs. i think that it can, well , at least if you say that everything is solved in the states and in europe, then our foreign ministry should have this is a question to be raised during every negotiation. and also, since the bank is austrian, it is possible that our austrian embassy should have worked more actively. they are probably doing this. well, we understand that

the influence of these factors will be minimal, the main thing is what effective years will they do our western partners and now the americans are taking these steps, we see that raiffeisen has actually reduced its activities in russia there, for example , 50% were spent on dollar transfers, er, commissions, that is, they are squeezing this balan out of russia, on the one hand, are they making his operations less attractive a on the other hand, the bank itself has already stated, and again , this is happening under pressure from the americans, that they are developing ways to leave russia and have intensified these developments, so let's see . that is, you can put pressure there, but the pressure must be from the side, there is the central bank of the european central bank and the ministry of finance of the united states and not from the national bank of ukraine, that is, it is clear if there is still time, we have time for one

question . plaza in kyiv is one of the largest and most profitable shopping centers in the ukrainian capital . it was connected with russian structures , it seems even with the entourage of vladimir putin, the russian president. for privatization now during the war, will there be investors who would like to invest in this business and buy it at a specific auction 50x50 i understand that it must be sold or should everything be sold during the war right now or wait for the end of the war we still don't know how long the war will last, yes, it will last a year and a half, or 5 years, and whether we have to wait, for example, from ocean plaza for 5 years . these are open questions. but if we say what to do with him, if we decide not

to sell now, then everything is fine must be conducted an open tender is transparent without any additional conditions on the transfer of this asset to management, that is, an investor comes and says that i will give the state this much and provides such and such a profit such and such a yield from this object for the near future while the war continues and then as soon as the war is ending, 1 2 3 months have passed and privatization is being carried out, this option is possible, that is, it is possible to sell now immediately for privatization, yes, the price will be lower, the state will have less corruption risks, or lease it to management no uh, how is business, once again, dishonest profanity auctions at someone's election there simply because they want beautiful and you and while the war is going on, let the business manage now in kyiv this uh object can be profitable , it can bring money to the state thank you

mr. serhiy, we had time to talk about all the prepared news . serhiy fursa, investment banker, representative of the dragoncapial investment group, was on our broadcast as usual, bye bye, dealers, and i am andriy yanivskyi, the host of this program. see you tomorrow at 8:10 a.m. live on the air together we will win, there are 20% discounts on fenistil gel, podorozhnyk vam and oshchad 24 pharmacies , humor with victory from the creators of the sketch show nash bez rashi meets on june 13 in lviv at the maria zankovetska theater at 7 p.m. and on june 26 in kyiv at the october palace at 7 p.m.

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