[000:00:00;00] the special relationship between the united states and israel and the help that the united states provides to israel although this country has never declared its desire to become a member of nato, but the israelis of ukraine . but with us the situation is completely different and we need something more concrete. moreover, if we talk about this israeli formula. and this is essentially what is called the main ally of the united states outside of nato, then all the help that is provided to the country in such status, we still can't do it now, even more, we are now already. it seems to me that we will get the most from your uh, and only american military aid, and many other countries , germany, great britain and poland, well, dozens of such countries, in fact, all of rammstein is more than 50 and they all help us but this is not yet a guarantee of safety. we need

something much more like that . well, stronger and i hope that such a formula will be found . er some experts suggest signing such a kind of agreement between nato and ukraine about war now. that is, we are talking about an agreement that could be signed by the secretary general of nato as if he were authorized by all members with ukraine or, on the contrary, individual

countries, even if a nato member country signs an agreement with ukraine on the provision of such a carrier defense as, by the way, was done in the situation with finland, sweden even before finland and sweden joined nato, they signed such agreements, if i'm not mistaken, with great britain and the united states of america . maybe something like that. well, you know, not us there are excellent experts and specialists sitting in nato to judge. i am somehow sure that they will find some form that, well, if not completely, it satisfied us at least for the period until we receive full and full and full membership in this organization thank you, thank you, mr. volodymyr, for the conversation. it was diplomat volodymyr yelchenko, friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us

live on facebook and youtube , like this video, subscribe to our social media networks and on youtube, we will be grateful to you. well, read our news on the espresso tv website, then we have the officer of the freedom battalion of the national guard andriy illenko, mr. andriy , good evening and welcome to our broadcast thank you for joining it. good evening. let's be very brief in order to recall the events of last week, which are related to the explosion of the kakhovka hpp, because they are related , as experts say, to the offensive of the armed forces of ukraine and russia, which indicates that they are ready for the next terrorist attacks, at least on propaganda tv, they will discuss a lot about the possibility of undermining the kyiv hpp there, we know that the rather critical situation at the zaporizhia npp

is due to the fact that the kakhovskoe reservoir has become shallow in your opinion, can russia use terror, terrorist attacks on infrastructure as a possible means of resistance against the counter-offensive of the armed forces of ukraine, which has already begun at the beginning, i will simply clarify that i am a battalion representing the freedom battalion of the fourth brigade of the national guard's operational assignment, this is important. and regarding your question, well, it's obvious and that is, if there is nothing new, because russia, in principle , has always used and uses terrorist methods, that is, attacks on the civilian population, attempts at intimidation attacks on civilian infrastructure, including critical infrastructure. they did not hide it at all, that is, if they are now

there, they are probably still horrified by the consequences of the certain and scale of the crime they committed at the kakhovsky hpp by blowing it up and causing the biggest man-made disaster of the 21st century at least in in europe, and maybe in the world in general, they are probably still afraid of the distance and do not admit that they did it there, they try to accuse us there , they say different things to each other, but how, for example, when they they tried to freeze us in the winter when they openly said that we are attacking the energy infrastructure , we are attacking the power plant, we are attacking the system of providing the basic vital activities of the population with the aim, as they said, of throwing us back into the stone age and that we all freeze in the winter they didn't even hide it. it was open, that is, they directly announced it, and they took responsibility

for it, that is, that means what to expect. i think that in principle, everything that russia has been doing for all this time, well, it has already become obvious to everyone and those who there, i don't know, had the slightest doubt, or something blinded them , and i don't know, well, it's obvious to everyone that russia is a terrorist country, that's hmm, they don't have any moral restrictions. only the power that will destroy them, everything else, they have no other restrictions, they have no uh, and we all saw what they did in buch, we all saw what they did in izyum. we can't even imagine what we will see when we go further and release ukrainian territories today are occupied by russia, what will we see there?

how many mass graves will we see there, how many tortured ukrainians will we see there, that's why i think it's obvious and that's why the only way to stop it is to destroy this enemy for the world, it's to support ukraine with weapons as much as possible so that we have the opportunity to do it effectively and do it as soon as possible to andrii, the former secretary general of nato rasmus said that it is not excluded that certain countries that are part of the north atlantic alliance outside of nato may provide assistance to ukraine, in particular, he said that poland or the baltic states may to join the ukrainians in the fight against russia, it is clear that in a situation where russia uses terrorist acts against ukraine and does it in order to simply destroy the country and kill all ukrainians, it is clear that both the poles and the residents of the baltic region understand that they can be next as far as

there is a possibility that at some stage poland may also join the fight against the russian invaders on the territory of ukraine . of course, such countries as poland, lithuania , latvia, estonia, the czech republic, slovakia, romania, etc. so on, they are much more intensive, taking into account the fact that they may not have so many resources, but they support us much more intensively in all senses , er, because er, well, we can say that the exception is probably great britain, because they there they were the first in general to start equipping us with serious weapons, america by itself, but it died, what resources are simply well, cyclopean, yes, there are much less resources in the same britain, but it gives us much more according to its capabilities, it gives us according to

its capabilities, but all the countries of the east central europe, they are really helping us with everything they can because they understand very well that they are in a zone of direct risk and it is perfectly clear to everyone that the plan that was putin's er, starting when he started the war, this plan er was not obviously limited to ukraine, that is, this plan obviously included at least a hybrid aggression against the baltic countries, and maybe on a full scale, it obviously provided for the same aggression against poland of other countries, because if it was even officially declared, we would remember this letter or that there was some statement or memorandum that muscovy sent to the official washington on the eve of the full-scale invasion there a couple of months before where they said that in general nato should withdraw from the east

of europe from the countries of the former warsaw pact and that in fact russia became the issue of restoration of the entire former soviet sphere of influence in europe , and if i think that all the people, including the political word, respectively, of these countries , read it and they understood that if putin, uh, started such a crazy war against ukraine, then obviously, his other applications should be treated as a completely realistic threat, and they understand all this , they simply know what russia is, that is, the poles know what russia is, the country of the baltic peoples know what russia is, do you know what russian occupation is? and that is why they obviously understand that they are in danger, they obviously understand that today ukraine is fighting, including for them , including so that the war does not come directly to their land, so that the russians or the russians do not already trample their land and their cities

were the arena of battles, and that is why they support us very intensively, eh, whether the army of poland or other eastern european countries will be directly involved in the hostilities in ukraine, i do not know. scenario, but under certain circumstances. everything is possible, the more we understand that er. well, if we live in such a time and such an era when it is very difficult to make any predictions and stay only within some such, you know, standard limits of understanding what can be and what cannot be we we live like this a time when, unfortunately and fortunately, maybe it’s all because of that. well, at the moment, i don’t see any reason right now to believe that tomorrow there will be some direct military aid to us from other countries, but everything can change in some way, under certain circumstances, everything can change, but not i think that it makes sense for us to talk a lot about it now and to count on it a lot. at the moment, because

after all, somehow, help with weapons, without it, it would be very difficult for us, but all the same, ukrainians are fighting and ukrainians will be released our country, the minister of foreign affairs of germany and on lena berbuk says that this war must end fairly, we will hear from the minister of foreign affairs of germany , at the same time, we are most interested in the fact that the russian war of aggression finally ends fairly, only one person can put an end to this war. this is the russian president and one country has the greatest influence on russia, that's china. that's why i'm also advocating during this trip for china, as a permanent member of the un security council, to stand up for peace all over the world and helped to do everything so that the cruel russian war of aggression was finally

brought to a just end until china intervened with andrei and did not say his important and important word spoilers chinese spoilers are still spreading these so-called peace agreements because there will -th visit of the seven leaders of african countries to kyiv and moscow with a peace plan, we know that there is a peace plan in brazil, a peace plan, he is the envoy of kano to her, he should be in moscow, he was already in kyiv at the same time, everyone is peaceful the plans that have been announced so far, they provided for the adoption of a decision or the adoption by kyiv of a decision, as they say in moscow , of a new territorial reality, or simply put, the occupation of certain regions of our kherson, zaporozhye, donetsk , luhansk regions, and this is actually

the cover. justice in the understanding of china, because china has an influence on these states, and it is quite serious, including through the brics organization , in your opinion, what peace plan can be accepted by our side in this situation and is it possible at all in the current conditions, when we have 25% of the territory that is under occupation, i think that today this is an absolutely empty conversation that does not make any sense. well, there is nothing to talk about here, because all that we heard in the form of these so-called proposals, including those brought by china or by some other countries like indonesia or

someone else, all these proposals are absolutely and categorically unacceptable for us because they assume that we have come to terms with occupation of our territories, we should actually give putin and russia the opportunity to depend on military losses for the tyrants, and to get , obviously, certain relaxations of the sanctions pressure, and after that, in a few years , to start another new stage of aggression, that is, it seems to me that now is the moment when it is impossible under no circumstances allow situations where we give the enemy a break, allow the enemy to normalize its internal and external situation and prepare for the next attack, right now is that unique moment and a unique chance when we have enough power and enough support from the entire civilized world to defeat the enemy on the battlefield, and the fact that all this has become more active now, all these

conversations, they just show that russia is very interested right now to try one or the other in a way, as they say there, to freeze the conflict or something else , in essence, to legitimize the occupation of ukrainian territories , to get some kind of strategic respite, in no case can you do that, in no case can you give them that, and that's it. we understand that everything will be decided on the battlefield, the situation will be decided on the battlefield, and all future processes will depend on what the results will be on the battlefield, both in the diplomatic direction and in the reaction of the world community, and in terms of stability, or rather the instability of the collapse of that regime, which actually there is in russia and the collapse of the very er-er of this russian half-empire of the war and in its current form , that is why i think that now there is no reason to seriously discuss everything. that is, these are not

real and they are unreal stories are unreal proposals that, well, are absolutely unacceptable to us and they categorically cannot even be considered because there is no question of any concessions by the aggressor, no concessions by our territories, and even more so there is no question of these bastards getting away with it all , because i'm sorry to come to our land to kill so many people to destroy so many villages to cause a humanitarian catastrophe in essence in our country and then to say well, let's put an end to this somehow , you bastards will be responsible for this you will pay for this, you will er for 10 generations ahead er repent for this and we will not accept anything else thank you mr. andriy after a short pause we will return to our

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those who care in the evening on espresso, this is the verdict program. i, serhiy rudenko, worked live with us, an officer of the svoboda battalion of the fourth rapid response brigade of the national guard, border andriy illienko , mr. andrii. once again, good evening on june 15th , the next rammstein 13th is scheduled to take place and there will be the details of the aviation coalition will be discussed, as defense minister oleksiy reznikov said, a decision on the training of aircraft pilots and fighter engineers is expected , they will also talk about air defense and ammunition for the armed forces of ukraine of course, everyone in ukraine is in anticipation of receiving f16 planes, which were already promised to zelenskiy at the summit in moldova. he said that there are already clear agreements and that he had a day of joy when he learned that these countries will provide us with these fighters

how the f-16 will change the battlefield in ukraine and the russian-ukrainian war in general, well, it is obvious that it is a weapon that has such characteristics that do not give us a very serious push forward, and it seems to me that it is possible that even in some ways it will give us an advantage even greater than that advantage which we received when the deliveries of hi-mars first began, i.e. i think that this is relatively the only thing. of course, this involves quite a lot of technical aspects, which may not be so obvious, but still, the question of training a-a pilots, the question of training the personnel who will service these planes, the question of their full functioning and provision this is a rather complicated and rather long

process, unfortunately, it is not as fast as with the same, for example, high mars or with western tanks, this process is more difficult, but still the results are the advantage that we we will get as a result of the use of these aircraft, it will have a very serious meaning, that is, it is really capable of changing the situation on the battlefield and the strategic situation in general. it will give us very great advantages . of course , we would all like it to be much faster. for the world community to start supplying us with all the weapons that we will receive starting from 2014, but it is the way it is and even if it is late, but still we will receive these weapons and this is what gives us a lot of advantages, the only thing that really needs to be understood and that

actually, what our diplomacy does is to explain to the world sector that the only way to peace is the way through ukrainian victory, and the more you give us modern, high-quality weapons, the faster this victory will be, and accordingly, peace will come, and the fewer human sacrifices will have to be made on this path . well and these open the way for ukraine to nato, because ukraine already has all modern weapons, as far as prospects are there in ukraine to get some kind of special status within the framework of the vilnius sami tonatu, if possible literally in a minute well, of course, that's what the question that must be decided unambiguously is that ukraine should be in nato, it is clear that it seems to me that there are only two ways of guaranteeing our national security: membership in nato and nuclear status, well, or both, and that

, in general, it would continue. well, accordingly, of course, ukraine should be in nato, there is no doubt about it, we have to work for it , but i do not think that this issue will be resolved precisely with regard to ukraine's membership in nato before our victory, of course we would like it very much, but i look at things realistically i think we are we will join nato the next day after we win this war. thanks to andriy. it was andrii illenko, an officer of the svoboda battalion of the fourth rapid response brigade of the national guard of ukraine, and we work as friends live on the espresso tv channel , as well as on our social networks on the youtube platform and for those who are now watch us live please like our video subscribe to our social networks and youtube join our sponsor club - this is the espresso channel youtube club

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