[000:00:00;00] tires probably laundry complex we have collected everything thank you very much thank you again tomorrow and now verdik serhiy rudenko is ready for ether we sell the word see espresso - be with us good evening we are from ukraine glory to ukraine this is a program verdict my name is serhiy rudenko greetings everyone yesterday vladimir putin accused the ukrainian side in the shelling of residential areas, and today the russian occupiers launched a rocket attack on kryvyi rih number of victims of the night strike 11:28 injured, 12 of them are in hospitals in medium and

serious condition june 14 in kryvyi rih declared mourning, meanwhile, russia continues to shell the cities and villages of ukraine, causing damage and killing ukrainians , russia continues to commit war crimes in our country. putin was and remains a war criminal, and they are already talking about it on all platforms, political platforms , international platforms, and putin, as you know, has a warrant from the international criminal court, the deportation of ukrainian children is not strong, while today putin tried to explain to his living cows why russia attacked ukraine, but he did not do it convincingly and tried to say that if moscow did not decide to go to ukraine, then ukraine would go to russia, and it looked absolutely stupid and it is absolute nonsense, meanwhile, russia continues to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine, russia

has already lost in ukraine has 216,650 people in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine have destroyed 470 orks since the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost 3,935 tanks, 7,642 armored fighting vehicles, 3,766 artillery pieces, 601 rocket salvo systems, 363 means in ukraine of air defense 314 airplanes 300 helicopters - 6473 units of automotive equipment 18 ships of boats 1183 cruise missiles 3309 drones 511 511 units of special equipment so a missile attack on kryvyi rih three scenarios of a war in ukraine putin's lies to the military and the peace plans with which kyiv has this week

before the arrival of the leaders of seven african countries, there were peace plans for china, brazil, the vatican, as well as other participants who in one way or another are related to the russian state, we will talk about this in the next hour, i want introduce today's first guest he should be ihor lapin, a special forces officer, an officer of the armed forces of ukraine, a people's deputy of ukraine of the seventh and eighth convocations, we are waiting for the inclusion of igor lapin, in the meantime, you know, friends, that the great counteroffensive has begun today , vladimir putin is facing many wars spoke about this counteroffensive and commented on the counteroffensive said that it began on the fourth of june and the kremlin grandfather tried

to talk about how the russian troops are countering this counteroffensive, but we know that 7 villages in the southeast have already been liberated in a week, the ministry of defense of ukraine announced this, ukrainian defenders, according to the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, are making progress in the berdyan area, and the kingdom of russian defense is trying in every way to downplay the importance of this counteroffensive and exaggerate its successes, but but for several days now, over the village of makarivka in donetsk region, a majorite blue-yellow flag, the russians will not let them recapture the settlement, the enemy is attacking the artillery with mortars and tanks, but the odessa

marines who liberated the village promise not to give it up, the military published a video showing how they de-occupied makarivka, the enemy did not expect an offensive, so the defenders managed not only to defeat the occupiers , but also to take them prisoner. brigades eh the rear was cleared the last orcs were knocked out of the village some of them are in captivity this is from their words this is storm z after that they just started to destroy this village russians of course in their reports very a lot of people write about the loss of leopards and bradley armored vehicles by the ukrainians, at the same time, german defense minister boris pistorius said that we cannot replace every lost

tank, but we will increase the supply of leopards to ukraine alone. this means that the world will not leave ukraine alone with russia, these supplies of military equipment and weapons will be to continue putin already putin is talking about the fact that ukraine simply provoked russia into war and he repeated several times today at the meeting with the soldier that it was not us who started this conflict, it was the ukrainians who started this war although, of course, he lies like he breathes and uh, putin started this war against ukraine, of course not in 2014, because starting in 2000 , when putin came to power in the presidential chair, he began to prepare for the destruction and seizure of ukraine yes, yes

i i was not mistaken, we are talking about the twenty-year preparation of the russian federation for war with ukraine. we remember that with the arrival of vladimir putin to power in russia , a major political crisis unfolded in ukraine, and it was connected with the murder of our colleague georgy gongadze journalist at that time, the ukrainian state was taking steps on the way to european integration, euro-atlantic integration, and the president of the bush was in power. versions, the general prosecutors changed and tried in any way to prove that the journalist went somewhere, disappeared somewhere, something may have happened to him

outside kyiv, and only when the tapes of major melnychenko were made public did it become clear that the journalist was killed and killed and that preparations for the assassination were being prepared in kuchma's office, so with the release of these tapes, leonid kuchma actually came under the control of the russian federation and, accordingly, under the control of vladimir putin, who at that time had already come to power, and it was very easy for putin and russia then to control leonid kuchma was next to the second president, the president of ukraine, they talked about the fact that he was in such a very bad mood and was drinking a lot of alcohol at that moment and tried in some way to drown out

this and that situation and that situation that was around at that time viktor medvedchuk appeared near kuchma, who became the head of the office of the president of ukraine, and then you know the whole career of medvedchuk, but starting from the 2000s , medvedchuk was close to kuchma, they tried then with medvedchuk together with the best man putin tried to transfer power from kuchma to viktor yanukovych by transit, they failed, the orange revolution began after that, russia did everything to tame ukrainian politicians, as a result , in 2010, viktor yanukovych won the presidential elections, russia did everything for

the discrediting of the orangemen and in order to boil them down among themselves and you in the finals in the finals of the actual presidential elections so that yanukovych would come out and win, that is, the whole story of vladimir putin's preparation for war for war . it has a ten-year history, that is , a twenty-year history, and what putin is saying now about the fact that we had no other way out but there was simply no way out because you wanted to fight and that is why you actually went to war against ukraine in order to destroy it to the question of what are the territorial borders of the russian the federation can go er then today he answered it depends on the potential of ukraine's counteroffensive we have several plans besides that he emphasized several times that if you want to live in an independent state it is he he appealed to ukrainians for god's sake but don't create threats for us what threats ukraine

created for russia it is absolutely uh-uh unclear to the federation and putin did not explain this, although it is absolutely obvious to us what the threats were to russia, because next to russia there was a state twice in which there were two maidans and two maidans were against the wind of yanukovych and against his government and it is clear that russia could not tolerate this and could not agree with the fact that all the plans that putin had drawn for himself for 14 years simply went to pieces and it is clear that in this situation russia had no choice but to go to war to ukraine, because they understood that they would finally lose ukraine well, of course, er, today, er, putin still tried to talk about the fact that if he wants the conflict in

ukraine to end, he will do it, you just need to stop the supply of weapons to ukraine , putin said. this story is reproduced of this thesis about the fact that if you do not help ukraine with weapons, everything will end. of course , it is misleading for the west and for ukraine , because putin will not stop at anything . what exactly are the ukrainians beating on residential areas and he can't understand it in any way we have a small synchronicity, let's watch it

many times on the i don't know . maybe they are the next time. why exactly? let's say the enemy will beat the elderly of the quarter. well, how do you advise me, why does it make sense? it was clearly a ministerial object then . there is no sense of this military meaning. there were heimers specifically about the kakhovka hpps, an absolutely outright lie, because the kakhovka hpp was still mined by the russians in november 2022. and in general, they

captured the kakhovka hpp 12 days after the start of the great offensive against ukraine, which began on february 24, 2022, the second synchronization is also an outright lie that the ukrainians are hitting residential areas and killing the civilian population and he does not understand this literally this night. as you know in kryvyi rih, the russians hit the unfortunately, 11 residents of kryvyi rih died and 28 were injured, and this is not the first time that russians fall into residential buildings. there have been incidents in kharkiv, dnipro and other cities of ukraine, so putin is simply lying and from this lie hardly anyone is safe, that is, our ears are insured

because we don't perceive it, we see with our own eyes what is happening in ukraine, the russians are simply giving the russians this information about the fact that look what neo-fascists are in ukraine and something needs to be done with them well, we have oleksandr khara diplomats in contact expert on foreign and security policy of the center for defense strategies, mr. oleksandr . i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our broadcast. good evening, mr. sergey. by the way, i made a short introduction before our conversation, and i don't know if you followed today's meeting between putin and military commissar, well, at least with quotes or some saw how he talked about the fact that the country had no other way out or russia had no other way out than to defend itself from ukraine and that all the goals he set during the special military operation would definitely be achieved, what they said

we have already almost destroyed the military-industrial complex of ukraine, and then it's just a matter of technology , these excuses that came out of vladimir putin's mouth today, and apparently in front of such a loyal audience, because military personnel are, after all, people who served, they are not ordinary journalists and not even some recruited journalists, these are people in uniform, according to you, this is the exit of putin and his arguments and arguments trying to explain what is happening in russia in the ukrainian war, what is it connected with, well, of course, it is connected with the contour offensive, of course, he wants to intercept a bit of an informational initiative in detail - how many actually opened up a very good time for the russians, did you see how our military leadership asked the ukrainians, let's not say so, to spread

information about the offensive well, of course, that informational vacuum, but it cannot be. it is being filled. and actually, the russians from the very beginning decided to do this first. shoigu about the victory, which means protecting the destruction there with hundreds of heimers, as traditionally they tell it there, that is, they have such crazy numbers. i think that this is primarily aimed at influence and the russian community but the most important thing is that the west looks at you invested so much money , trained so much time, the ukrainian military gave the most modern equipment and they can't do anything, and we are heroic in defending what it belongs to us, because lenin invented ukraine, we fed this ukraine, and after several mutinies, the fascists came there, and now we simply could not interfere , of course. he repeats this alibi of this criminal, it cannot be otherwise.

there are already certain um such mental changes in him, that is, he believes everything, that is, before it seemed to me somewhere in the 14th or 15th year that he is simply so coldly calculating that he does certain things, but does not believe that there is a tractor kamenery or crimean self-defense, and now he believed everything continues to tell this, so there is nothing strange. for us, it does not change anything, it is clear that this person will not understand that he is a war criminal, that he commits er-e actually every day such crimes against the so-called fraternal people er-e that he is actually in this way shows its inadequacy, and thank god on the other hand, because it means that they will not be able to put pressure on us in such a way that we start negotiations with this person, who is not adequate, who actually does not perceive

reality. i would say it's sad for russia, let's hope for a repeat of the scenario of 1917, when in fact there were few reasons, and above all, the failed actions of the military and a series of morals, and it led to the fact that, in fact, there was a coup d'état from the russian federation. i think that we we are following this scenario, not in 91, it’s definitely a-a, so we, we, maybe we can almost see the question of this person who, let’s say, is behaving calmly , because it’s clear that, uh, that we, we haven’t started yet, you know how the machine already said we haven't started yet, we really haven't started yet what is happening at the front is only a small part of it. i hope that there will be a collapse of the russian military and there will be nothing to tell all the russian military correspondents about something so heroic and that this

will actually cause a series of events of the russian federation. and we have already seen, let's say, such tension and the fact that the gentleman who is trying to administratively subjugate himself to this orlard, who can be called the leader of the thugs, the beauty, he does not agree. in fact, these frictions are absolutely normal. if there is a crack in the kremlin, then these people will start with weapons, let's say, try to get their hands on power or, more precisely, seize the money, so i think that this scenario is unfolding. i think that i don't know how long, i can't say whether it's weeks or a month or when there will actually be a victorious strike by the armed forces of ukraine. i don't know to what extent we will be able to liberate all territories, including crimea.

we definitely have it and it will actually cause problems in the russian federation itself. by the way, oleksandr, we have an e-synchronization of anthony blinkin, the secretary of state of the united states of america, about the successful counteroffensive of ukraine, which, in his opinion, can force putin to look for ways to negotiations, let's hear and share blinkin's result a successful counteroffensive may be the next earliest - this will strengthen ukraine's position at any negotiating table in the future and will also probably influence the fact that putin will begin to consider the possibility of negotiations to end the war which he started in this sense, counteroffensive actions can

bring peace closer and not distance it . well, there is piskov's reaction to all these talks about negotiations between kyiv and moscow. we will hear piskov now. then at least a flimsy foundation in order to create at least some kind of dialogue, mr. oleksandr. where can this foundation appear in the belgorod, voronivsk, kursk , rostov regions or in the suburbs of moscow? of course, this is with the success of our armed forces and i also hope with the success of the russian oppositionists, real russians, who took up not weapons, but a white field of roses , which means there are still balls and marched through the streets of moscow. well, in fact, no such platform can be negotiated at the moment, of course, everything is decided now on the field battles and i absolutely understand what mr. blinkin is saying - he is probably one of the most hawkish representatives of the biden administration, he tries

to pull and push and i think that he will be written very well in textbooks of the history of ukraine, but he cannot say otherwise that in the end everything must end, that is, in fact, he is pushing us to some kind of declamation, but in fact , he says that we must continue to support ukraine so that ukraine wins on the battlefield in order to have more powerful positions, and it seems to me that this is very important, especially in view of the fact that on the eve of vilnius , not only, let's say so, the negotiations of the allies on the peace treaty with the united states are going on, where they are trying to find the right formula how to do something more than in bucharest in 2008 but of course to avoid a clear clear signal that kyiv wants and they say there are some different guarantees for us

, this is very important because it is public as literally today i read two articles that say that ukraine in no case can you take those who are there to nato, you don't need to feed russian paranoia, although you know when the paranoiacs attacked us when we didn't feed them, well, of course, what about the risks that may be in connection with the fact that ukraine ukraine will accept him in nato well, of course, there are positive articles and positive speeches, but i concentrate more and look at the arguments of the other, that is, the enemy side in the state of our friends. i would say so, that's why all these signals that are sent including what happened within the vymer triangle, that our polish friend president duda tried to extract something from the french , the finns, more specifically, they avoided a clear answer. i understand that in this sense

the meeting was not successful, but it was successful in because they are looking for that formula or intermediate intermediate guarantees that they can provide to ukraine , either in the form of increased supplies or guaranteed supplies of weapons, joint training, exchange of intelligence, that is , such tools that we need in order to end this war with victory and then be able to defend ourselves and keep russia from further aggression, that's why right now the information cauldron is so hot, and we'll watch it, the temperature will increase, its passions will increase, but you mentioned this tripartite meeting which yesterday was held in paris, where buvanji and duda, manuel macron and olafsholtz, and only duda called at this meeting, well, at least that is what the western press and gel spiegel write

about it that at the meeting of the heads of state and governments in poland, france and germany, it was president duda who called to accept ukraine to nato, and the leaders of france and germany preferred to talk about security guarantees, i.e. what you already said about what well, let's invent some formula there, according to which we will work we will support ukraine and something of course says that security guarantees are needed in a very specific form , what this means is also not clear . and whether this applies to the north atlantic alliance and the meeting in july in vilnius itself and that we will provide e.e. to slow down the production of ammunition in europe. and we will also maintain the weapons supplied by germany in working order, and macron also talks about this, so it is not clear

whether zelenskiy needs to fly to the nato summit in vilnius or not. because literally a month ago, he said that if he does not specific of the developed solutions, it is not clear whether ukraine should participate there at all, according to your opinion, or whether the representatives of the north atlantic alliance will twist these situations into some kind of formula according to which they arranged both the event and ukraine well, of course, it is extremely difficult, since we have our maximalist demands are justified because we have already been promised er because er actually not giving ukraine and georgia plans for membership in 2008 was actually read in the kremlin as a green light to attack georgia first and then on us, of course we are not we can be satisfied with the fact that no matter what the verbal form is, it is formed that the existence of such

an unstoppable veto right of putin on the expansion of nato will be confirmed, well, in fact, by the way, in his speech today, he said that we were promised not expansion and e- let's say they were deceived, but in fact it is a delusion of no document and no testimony, even mikhail gorbachev said that he was not given such , let's say, guarantees. more important than the ukrainian one because it is bordered by the skolovsky peninsula, where the nuclear fist of the russian federation is located, strategic and not tactical, so of course we will not agree to any reassurances, as they were in the budapest memorandum, but there is something more effective, or they are unlikely to give up, let's hope that let's say yes - our closest friends and allies are

the baltic countries, poland, romania, they will be able to push the correct language, the correct formation of the wording so that it would be much more no just more than bucharest and for it to really be a signal well and plus of course we expect more specifics regarding these interim security guarantees, how will they differ from what we have now in the rammstein format will it just be the supply of weapons and, by the way, again roads that's what he said that ukraine fights with foreign equipment, that in fact there is no ukrainian civil defense system. well, he was simply explaining that this demilitarization is a good idea and pace, and he is certainly wrong here, because since we have become much more powerful and we are able to use these weapons to manage, but he is partly right in the sense that we are extremely dependent on our western partners and we imagine that they will be more inclined to er let's say that

diplomacy will start working well, i am skeptical about such a possibility with this regime at all, but in general or imagine now we see the dramatic events unfolding in the united states with mr. trump who has extremely high ratings of 60 plus percent within the republican party he is actually uh without an alternative candidate if legal obstacles prevent him from becoming a republican candidate for president, that is. of course, this is such a great danger and of course that we cannot agree to some, well, you know, the good intentions of our partners. we need legally binding guarantees and of course that we since we are in under the conditions of this war with the russian federation, which is the largest nuclear power, no guarantees other than the fifth article of the washington treaty