[000:00:00;00] i am practically against such a possibility with this regime, but in general or imagine now we see dramatic events unfolding in the united states with mr. trump who has extremely high ratings of 60 plus percent within the republican party, he is actually uh without an alternative candidate if the legal obstacles cannot prevent him from becoming a candidate from the republicans for and then the president , that is, of course, that this is such a great danger, and of course that we do not agree to some, well, you know, the good intentions of our partners we need legally binding guarantees, and of course, since we are at war with the russian federation , which is the largest nuclear power ,

we cannot, in principle, satisfy any guarantees outside the fifth article of the washington treaty, and this is the problem there would be no nuclear weapons in the russian federation. ukraine was already a member of nato, but if we were a member of nato, russia would not be able to pursue an aggressive policy and continue the war. this is also true because of course it exists and works. -is nuclear deterrence and actually it is not effective, we see that less of this rhetoric is used now by the kremlin , they periodically, of course, they have exacerbations , probably related to the phases of the moon and here, but they are the minority who say this now because they have seen the readiness of the western partners well, i already i am not talking about the protection of our allies in europe, even in the event of any actions on the territory of ukraine, they have already repeatedly warned that such strikes will be carried out by non-nuclear means that will be equal in destructive power to the use of tactical nuclear

weapons so i wish i was wrong but honestly in short i see that france germany and probably even the united states e they are too cautious they have not yet come to the evolution that is needed a-a which we saw observed from the very beginning of the conflict when they were afraid to give us stingers, and then howitzers , and then, uh, about hummers, tanks, but now we hope that a new aid package will be announced today, and not only there will be strikers and bradleys, uh, but maybe something from a long-range missile, because we see the reaction of moscow, well, what kind they were afraid in the west in front of all of washington to transfer missiles to us, the radio of the judge and such, even in the fact that i gave, we see that there is no reaction at all, that is, russia is not capable of any escalation and of course not of nuclear escalation is definitely not possible under these conditions. by the way, you mentioned how

krauss changes his rhetoric regarding tactical nuclear weapons, but does not change this rhetoric . they talked about deploying tactical nuclear weapons as early as july 7-8 and said that they are already there and have prepared storage facilities for this purpose. lukashenko says that he demanded nuclear weapons and soon we will see what lukashenko said. well, it was my demand, it was not imposed on me by russia

. show me, guys, there are toys with conventional weapons, and i had the first offer to the russians: you have several sets of weapons armed with nuclear warheads, here is a captured one, we will plant them, well, we will hand them over to you , uh, how did i actually demand nuclear weapons , a cheap quantity, ready, this is a warehouse, something, everything is lying like it is necessary and we will all unite, i think it will take me a few days, we will have eh, that is what we are asking for . i am listening to him, mr. oleksandr, and i think that this is some kind of wedding general for putin. he is talking about that's what i asked for nuclear weapons, i insisted on this, i said put these

nuclear weapons in me because no one will touch the nuclear state's nuclear weapons. nuclear weapons to the same point from where it flew, no one knows, and the belarusians definitely did not give him such rights - to manage his future, er , considering this, what is lukashenko's nuclear weapons for? that is, it is like a martyr's train, so that if er to die is to die with nuclear with a warhead in his hands, well, i hope not, i hope that his usual government demo-demographic phrase will not come into his head what is the need for the world if there is no belarus , because in fact such orthodox jihadism

is nuclear, it is inherent in the russian federation , i hope that even this person is not sick who calls himself the president , and of course he is a criminal and not only that he is a usurper well, if not only that he repelled the flights of political competitors and that he is a co-participant in the crime of aggression against ukraine, he is a criminal because he is without any additional advantages for himself, for his i mean for his state , for his people, he made belarus a target for the actual nuclear weapons of those countries that have them , because you rightly said that he should not have access to this buttons, it is clear that putin is, of course, crazy, but not in this sense

. nothing means that there will not be some e-e legion of belarusians according to kalinovsky or anyone else who are not representatives of any other state, they are citizens of e-e belarus. of course, he will not strike on his own territory. weapons from a military point of view make absolutely no sense because the russians actually have kaliningrad and from there they are able to strike anywhere with whatever means we have there , the only problem is that everything that is brought to kolingrad or exported is with problems and of course that it is the intelligence of nato they see on the territory of laos will be somewhat more difficult to do, but i do not think that it is much more difficult. therefore, this is a crime, a step that is actually aimed exclusively at increasing the price of er in the eyes of putin, and since he is holding on to

russian er money and russian bayonets, so that this there was a guarantee of what he means, he will remain in power, surely putin wants to use nuclear blackmail to push the americans, as it was traditional for all previous administrations to talk about nuclear disarmament, about control armaments and in this way to negotiate whether to stop helping ukraine with weapons or some other things of course this will not happen this administration has broken with this criminal practice in fact although they declare that they are ready to talk, but they are not ready to bind strategic means strategic security and negotiations about control over this with the ukrainian issue or some other issue is that putin says that he does not answer symmetrically because there are weapons located on the territory of european states

american well, first of all, it was located there in the 60s and there was nothing new here, and of course this weapon was taken into account by the russians during the soviet union and after in order to counteract, that is, those forces and means that deployed them enough for by and large, this does not make sense even for the russians that and actually there were weapons there, it does not threaten anyone more than it threatened the russian territory or the invasion of the main territory or kaliningrad there. so this is just an absolute game i don’t need it, i hope it ended with the withdrawal of these weapons so that belarus will return to the status without a nuclear state, by the way, mr. lukashenko actually lied right away on the air he said that there are no wars with nuclear states, well, i’m sorry, now there is one nuclear crazy state on his border a war with a non-nuclear state and we

strike on their territory not only on the temporarily occupied crimea there or other territories . so i'm already talking about vietnam, where the united states actually lost the largest nuclear power at that time lost to the rebel army and there were a number of other soldiers where in fact the nuclear powers were under attack so he is simply dima hug this will not give him anything and in fact his regime will fall just as it did with putin's thank you mr. oleksandr after a short pause let's get back to our conversation, there are 20% discounts on the sedative bezkia in pharmacies. traveller, save money. pain can be an obstacle to walking up the stairs, not with my knees from knee pain. try dolgit cream, it relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves

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, oleksandr, we know that this week the leaders of the seven african countries will go to kyiv and then to moscow with their peace plan. brazilian president lulu dasilla said that he does not see a military solution in ukraine. he said this during a meeting with ursula derlin foundation and the president of the european commission. silva literally said that we need more diplomacy there. less armed intervention in ukraine well, i will remind you that silva is the person who said that russia needs to give crimea to end the war, for which he received money from the world community, of course. in general, you were forced to condemn the violation of the territorial integrity of ukraine, but this simka from africa and silva and china are indonesia, in principle, they all offer one formula for peace, which, in their opinion, can be

considered by moscow and kyiv. recognition of the so-called territorial reality , or simply speaking, recognition of the occupation of part of the ukrainian territory by russia and its consolidation there well, as the minister of defense of indonesia said according to the korean version, when there will be a line of demarcation there will be some kind of parallel along which it will be er, the sphere of influence is demarcated, that is, ukraine will remain ukraine, part of ukraine will remain under the control of the russian federation, and in principle, everyone is gunning for ukraine to such an option, there is obviously a common common denominator in all these plans - this is er, the same position of the kremlin, although they say about the fact that they do not want to talk with the current regime in kyiv, as they say. but they already have exactly such a story, that is, they also talk about the same thing, that is, according to you, moscow is still inclined to

some kind of peace talks, it is just being done hands. i understand those countries that are either part of brics and have certain contacts with moscow or, well, let's say countries that are now under the control of china. well , you know, i swear by the fact that china's role here is much greater than that of moscow. and it's not for nothing that the president of south africa i called all the callers in order to inform him about the visit and about his plans. i think that it is more in this womb than in the russian one, and of course if we look at what the chinese offer, they do not have a plan, there is a position of china regarding a political settlement of the ukrainian crisis, as they call it, the fact that russia has more interests than ukraine is encrypted there, there is such a rather vague first phrase about respect

for the sovereignty of the territorial integrity of any state, and there the chinese primarily mean taiwan, not crimea, there is donetsk or luhansk, and so on. of course there is an algorithm that is proposed, it doesn’t really suit us, well, it’s very strange. by the way, right now , these african leaders have decided to go to kyiv, if, for example, it was, well, literally a week or two ago, it would have been clear because in the information space there was a false opinion that this is already such a tick that the russians are out of breath, they cannot advance, but the ukrainians do not have the strength to do anything, and then on this decay, ours , at least the information could do something now, when we say that ours is an offensive operation, this operation it has started, but it is not even inside yet, and of course we have hopes and of course what we hear and read from our friends who are currently fighting

, let me show you some small picture of a great battle, then we have optimism about this and that is why it makes no sense, by and large, this is a very untimely visit for the africans themselves, since they would have received a negative response anyway, well, more precisely , a diplomatic one would have been positive. thank you for your concern. we also want peace if there are any points in their peace plan. it has not yet been seen, it will coincide with the peace plan of ukraine or president zelensky , so we are grateful to you, let's support it. especially since we are planning a global one, that's where we will consider all these issues and the rest - this is not on at the time, if ukraine was in a more difficult situation , let's say, we were losing, we didn't have the resources.

that then we would think about some form of diplomatic formalization of this partition. at the moment, of course, any ceasefire is exclusively in the interests of the russian federation , since it will mean the fixation of the de facto presence on our territory and then . of course, if there is no hot phase, we we remember very well the 14-15th year when our western partners quickly lost interest because there were no hot events of the hot phase of the conflict. well, then they already switched to some other things . are part of the same plan and the chinese one, that is why they are leaving on time, i understand that they are getting a polite answer, but which will not satisfy them, i understand why they are going because, first of all, if we are talking about african countries, they are the ones that

suffer the most because they buy ukrainian grain because, well, ukrainian russians, because they are very dependent on russian fertilizers, because, uh, this war seems to be far away in europe . olena affects energy prices , it affects inflation, it affects the discount rate in banks, it affects the tension between and uh, well, no only the russian federation is so global in the south and actually that's why all this. all these things. they do and the unstable loneliness of these states is, let's say, problems of a social, economic and, of course , political nature. that is, i completely understand their motivation, maybe there is also a humanistic one motivation because it is clear that well, for sure, a large number of russians get pleasure when they watch innocent ukrainians being killed. i do not think that africans are africans, and of course there is such a motivation, but the result will be, i understand that it will not be very good for them.

i will satisfy them. well , the truth looks very strange when the leaders of countries located on the african continent, where wars are constantly going on. well, i don't know. there probably wasn't any such period. let's say this. of the armed conflict. they are trying to tell us something about how it should be properly settled, sergey . allow me to disagree with you a little, because i have heard more than once from various african representatives , primarily of the expert community, they say that we support ukraine because the border is not violated and that an extremely important thing is that we were colonies and in fact our colonizers outlined our borders and if we say that there are some i don't know er , it means swahili speaking er fellow citizens and

we will try to return to the territory that means that the entire african continent is explosive, and that is why you are correct in talking about these conflicts that are constantly going on, but there are definitely no conflicts of this quality when there is a country i want that wants to close the border of course there are internal ones and of course there are proxy warriors as such but it's unscrupulous, it's the embezzlement of the colonial occupation . well, even africans are surprised by it. thank you, mr. oleksandr. it was a diplomat, oleksandr khara. thank you for participating in the program . we will be in touch again. deputy of the seventh and eighth convocations of the verkhovna rada, mr. igor. i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air. glory to ukraine of the eighth convocation. volt only for the

eighth. we talked with oleksandr hara about all these peace negotiations and about the fact that the seven leaders of african countries are going to help putin in kyiv and then in moscow, at the same time the skobe propagandist says that they really need the chinese, the chinese military, several millions that would help russia protect the belgorod region, let's first look at scabies, then we'll talk about millions of chinese soldiers, now we're talking about what's needed what's needed why do you think so soldiers should be looking at the belgorod region , we don't have enough chinese army folk music we live

in a country where we are more interested the answer is banal. but in fact, igor, what do the russians lack in general in the current war, and what is their most vulnerable place during the great war with ukraine? well, what do they lack? i will need a name to displace the ukrainians, are they now on the territory of ukraine ? so, are they destroying the ukrainians with the help of rocket bombardments and so on? yes , are they making ukraine an uninhabitable territory?

they made three big mistakes, their first big mistake was that they believed that we were disputing the same as they were, that we were supposedly a people, but we are not a people, that's why our logic is our thinking, it's for not getting into their framework, and this is the first yes, and the second is theirs for what they believe that their war is sacred and that this narrative will be swallowed by the west and will be afraid and will sit quietly and wait until putin finishes ukraine, these theses did not work, their war is unjust and invasive, and the west realized that after it falls, don't let it god, the last ukrainian soldier, nato soldiers will begin to fall and the west began not to help ukraine, but investing in its own security is the second big mistake of the russians, which will inevitably lead them to defeat, well, and to conclude the question of the third mistake, it is that the utilization of indigenous peoples sooner or later by

putin the regime will end and the war will come to their homes and already on the territory of the so-called russia, not in the context of the empire, but in the context of st. petersburg and moscow , and it is precisely these individuals who, i would say, have such an influence on politics in russia but it will be a little later. even today, they are using the prisoners in english . today , they are using various groups of volunteers as contract workers . will be considered this third mistake, in my deep conviction, which will work very well, because this will lead to a war of all against all, because the more educated will begin to think that there is something in their kingdom

not so, so far we are still observing this. therefore, we still have to fight and fight, but we are on the right path, then today he met with the so-called warlords, he said that if they mean that in the west, they want the conflict to end, the west should stop the supply of weapons of ukraine, that is, in fact, he wants ukraine to be given to him, and he is ready to put an end there, of course, they are not going to do this. putin was also asked about the territorial borders of the russian federation can go it depends on the counteroffensive potential of ukraine we have several plans and do we have several plans look at the latest suspension of supplies to western countries i have already said that this is not help to ukraine, it is like an investment in its own security, but if you imagine what if the above bats were sold and we they would have been left on their own very nicely, the general is kind and i fully support him, so we cut

them with axes and pitchforks and that and they would be all the same with cleavers. and the question is how many of us would have lived to see that victory, this is the only question that today can be solved by western investment, it helps to preserve the ukrainian nation in the context because we can do it better and faster. did he survive there, conditioned or did he not survive, this is a question of a different kind, it is all calculated on his own consumer in order to show him your greatness, their greatness, what they are dictating, allegedly hmm, they did not understand the question of the terms of the negotiations until now, one thing, at a time when there is rabalypia in russia, if the government would go to some separatist agreements or , god forbid, capitulian agreements, they would cut down both

the russians and the government that would want to do it , that's why we don't have a rapoleta, and what's more who is in them and these issues are decided by the ukrainian people, and the ukrainian people gave their decision from the first days of the full-scale invasion very clearly after bucha, after the news, after everything they are doing with ukraine, the question of negotiations is not a word. in general, everyone understood that any negotiations are an opportunity for russia to regroup the troops to additionally slander the shaheds, additionally to slander missiles and go on some kind of offensive again, only idiots do not understand that, we have already run out of idiots, we have no calls for negotiations and to the end at any cost and thank god - this is the main thing moment, of course, it is a pity that ukrainians are dying, because from their side it is not slag, they have a lot of slag, but patriotic ukrainians are fewer and

fewer. thank you for participating in the program. this was ihor lapin, a special officer, an officer of the armed forces of ukraine, a deputy of the 8th convocation of the verkhovna rada of ukraine. we'll put an end to this . we'll see you tomorrow at 20:00. i wish you all the best and take care of yourself and your loved ones. goodbye, this is bbc from украина my name is hryhoriy zhugalovmy, we continue to monitor those greedy messages coming from the front line. russia showed admiration for bradley and the leopard. the pentagon promises to provide kyiv with new equipment. the situation of our program today the former commander of the joint forces in europe will analyze general breedlov and the minister of defense of sweden will comment on the unprecedented decision of his country to send military aid to ukraine and bbc correspondents also visited one of the liberated settlements