[000:00:00;00] we are looking for 15-year-old nastya liponova and her 17-year-old sister oleksandra, the girls disappeared in mariupol on the first day of the full-scale war on february 24 last year, and their whereabouts are still unknown, so i am asking everyone who sees me to look carefully at the photo of the girls , remember these faces, if anyone has suddenly seen the liponov sisters or knows where they may be, do not delay and call us on the hotline of the magnolia children's search service at the short number 116,000, calls from any ukrainian

mobile operator are free or write i also want to remind you that the search for 16-year-old serhiy samoilov from mariupol in the chatbot of the child search service in telegram is also ongoing . his mother said that on the very first day of the full-scale war, they were very restless. every hour, the situation only worsened rapidly due to the bombing . the family was hiding in the basement, but shelling was far from the only problem of the residents of mariupol, we didn't have holy water, even we drank technical water from technical wells. honestly speaking, it was very difficult - the stores were all looted, no transportation, nothing. well, we just sat cleanly and there is a hotel . what bothered fifteen-year-old sergey samoilov the most at the time

was the lack of internet, that's why the boy wanted to leave mariupol. he was trying to develop them, he was creating a server, and why did he leave the house? yes , there was no internet connection at home. it is clear that there was not the same problem. he was going to go to pokrovsk. serhiy was planning to go to my mother's acquaintance in pokrovsk, this is also the donetsk region, about 200 km from mariupol, and the boy's family did not dare to leave the house, so serhiy left alone , it happened on march 6, it was already 4 o'clock in the evening. even then there was absolutely nothing to eat and drink and it was very scary. he took a backpack with him, a computer was in it, he dressed like the young people dress, i say seryozha come on, i thought he

walks around the house and returns, and seryozha вышел из домой и же когда он вшёл i already got up what we did with my wife didn't keep him at the moment only one thing is known about pokrovsk serhiy never got home the guy also didn't come back and no one knows where he is now mom sergey still lives in mariupol yes does not lose hope of finding his son, meanwhile, serhiy's father, who has been living separately for a long time and is now in a territory not controlled by ukraine, is doing everything possible to find serhiy , in particular, he turned to the office of the butcher . find out, if the information is on that side, eh, but that many children were brought to russian territory, that’s the moment , so now i will contact you from that side, so it is possible that the boy was taken to the territory of russia, but it is possible that he is still in the territory of donetsk i appeal to the residents

of the temporarily occupied territory who may see this program on social networks , please look at the photo of the child, if anyone has seen the boy after march 8 of last year, or does anyone know where he may be now, do not hesitate to dial from any mobile phone the operator's short number of the child tracing service magnolia 116 000 0 calls to the hotline from any ukrainian mobile operator are free. if there is no way to call, write to the chat of the child tracing service in telegram, any information is important , we have created a resource thanks to which you can notify about any crime against a child in any city at any time, just go to the site and report and we will launch all possible mechanisms for punishing the criminal

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espresso tv channels espresso i am yuriy fizer and monday , which means that the world during the war program is broadcast around this time. when i and my guests discuss the most important thing happened in the world obviously related to ukraine during the past week and we are trying to look into the week that is ahead of us in order to at least be prepared for what can be expected so for some of you this is an unusual time for our program to air, we have changed this time since since last monday and that's roughly how we will now always go on the air, that's why everyone who watches the world during the war who loves the world during the war and we love all of you too, please remember now we go on the air approximately like this from 1:00 p.m. well maybe until 13-10, depending on how it will be, well, you can on the air in one word

well, nothing new today, i will be visited by some professional guests with whom i will professionally talk about what i would like to talk about , the questions that occurred during the past week and may continue to occur during the week ahead. well, as always , all of you who watch us on youtube, please remember us. the broadcast is on two channels at once, in general espresso and on the channel i am about youtube on the channel that was created specially for the sweet program during the war, yes, on this channel, every week we ask you to answer a question, and this time is no exception, today's question sounds like this: russia should stand trial for its crimes, three answer options, nothing surprising, immediately after the end of the war, and your option well and eyes, that is why i asked you this question, of course, because of what the rashists

did on the sixth of last week, the blowing up of the hopka dam, the dam at the kakhovsky hydroelectric power station, and if you add to that all the other crimes that the rashists committed in the course of this invasion of ukraine, which began on february 24 of last year, this is an urgent question of when she should appear before the court for her crimes, and now i want to tell you that now we are being watched on a special youtube channel that was created for the world during the war 570 people, i thank you all for joining and we already have answers to questions 93 people gave their answers immediately russia should answer for its crimes 83% of viewers believe that after the war 14% and 3% of viewers have their own

opinion, but their opinion can be read in the comments or already at the end when the youtube program publishes and you can watch everything. well, so do i. thanks to all those who joined us on the espresso tv channel, at least where it was not turned off from the networks. thank you too well, what if our guest already has this question for my charming host, and tells me what is already there, i can start today's broadcast. so, sylvestra nosenko , analyst of the center for economic recovery and sevid and ukraine p and sylvester . congratulations, thank you for joining. glory to ukraine heroes glory congratulations to the studio thank you for the invitation panel i invited you only because you are the last last week i read your e.e. your facebook your telegram and you wrote a lot about the un specifically about the un i

really want to talk to you because you are very interesting things were voiced there and today, probably, many interesting things will be voiced as well, because the un, you know, now everyone is listening, obviously, after such a kind of reaction, i would say a weak reaction, i don't know, a weak reaction, i don't know, inaction , i don't know, i obviously mean the reaction to that what did the rashists do in nova kakhovka, so let's start with sylvester. i will invite ivan and our audience to listen to what happened after, it seems the day after or maybe the second day after a-and the same after the explosion of the kakhovka dam, said the secretary general of the united nations antonio guterich let's listen to the psalm, there will be a gap further , the organization of the united nations does not have access to independent information about the circumstances that led to the destruction of the dam of the kakhova hpp

, but one thing is clear. this is another devastating consequence of the russian invasion of ukraine today's tragedy is yet another example of the enormous price of war for people the floodgates of suffering have been overflowing for over a year this must stop attacks on the civilian population and critical civilian infrastructure must stop we must act to ensure accountability and respect for international humanitarian law above all else i call for a just peace in accordance with the charter of the united nations , international law and the resolution of the un general assembly, that is, it seems like this standard un comments well, before i ask you a question, let's listen to a quote from the prime minister-kystoni, what a callous terrorist state russia has now turned water into a weapon, the destruction of the kakhov dam is a war crime that affects countless civilians and

leads to ecocide and mass destruction we must stop this cycle of aggression by helping ukraine win and ensuring full responsibility to russia well mr. sylvester look back from the second quote ms. kalla will say that we should help ukraine to answer, to answer in such cases, they help more precisely. such organizations as the un, but in the first quote, well, we did not hear this help, plus, look immediately after the rest of ukraine, she managed to do this before russia, they called an emergency meeting of the united nations, but in my opinion, in my opinion, we seem to have lost at this meeting, that is , we really needed to speak. firstly, there was no resolution, and secondly, there were countries that supported us very well. albania spoke very well. albania really condemned the rest of the countries. they

condemned russia, but they did not condemn what russia did specifically at the kahovsky dam, and plus 50% of those who spoke, in particular, were from african countries. they said, well, it's scary, it's scary. well, russia, no, benzene said yes. here's my question to you: an emergency meeting of the un security council on the explosion of the kakhovka hydroelectric plant . please tell me what the result was for ukraine. did not look through the prism of the classic dichotomy that we love betrayal victory, i would draw such an analogy that is understandable for our viewers with the national criminal law, if any crime happens and we are even its witnesses and we know for sure what happened, it doesn't matter does not eliminate the need to hold a court session and announce who is guilty by a court decision, the same happens with international crimes, that is

, in order for this not to happen, the international community will always try to conduct everything as objectively as possible, and well, how not to be cool, because they were not are present there at that moment in order to find out all the circumstances , therefore it will be much better for us if the international court of justice or the international criminal court will conduct an investigation and establish the guilty parties, and based on the results of this, i will say that russia is guilty and that it must compensate ukraine for the damage of course, there is the position of estonia. well, it must be understood that it is categorically in our favor, but it is a political position, it is not an independent force, but simply the sum of all the positions of all the countries of the world . such a position cannot be taken. that is, it is a little excellent things are what the head of the un says and what the head of some country from those countries that support ukraine says. well, but still, the result of this emergency meeting of the un security council was it for ukraine because

look at the question that i also wanted to ask you to put but a little later, but since i already got caught up in this , there is a meeting of the un security council, after which resolutions are adopted, after this meeting of the security council, there were no resolutions, that is, what we see, we just see that the parties spoke and voiced their position. personally, as a citizen of ukraine, it seems to me that russia at this emergency meeting of the un security council was in a more advantageous position than we are. you cannot say that it was in a advantageous position because no one openly said that ukraine did it. and even more so if you look at the previous words, in particular, temporary measures imposed by the un international court of justice in march of last year, it says that russia must stop those things that it is similar to in connection with the aggression against ukraine, that is, the whole

world will understand, the whole world will recognize that this russia has committed aggression and in the appropriate direction this will be considered as an argument in favor of ukraine, why russia did it, and of course the argument there will be very long before the international court or the international criminal court , there will be very, very many legal and political issues that we will have to prove, but for sure it cannot be said that russia has won. and in general, this is the initial stage of consideration of the dispute , if the security council was not able to reach some kind of stage to make some kind of final revolution, then this is just the first stage. and by the way this happens quite often because the consent of nine members of the security council, including five permanent members, is required, and consent has not been observed for quite some time . other mechanisms are involved, international judicial institutions, we continue to ask you questions about the agreement in the security council and why

some final decisions are often not reached. why does the security council not reach an agreement, well, again, it is simply the arithmetic average of all positions of the states that are part of it, and if you look at when there was consensus in the security council, then it was the 40s, when the united states had certain positions there after the second world war, or the 90s, when the cold war had not yet ended and the world expected such a general during the period of peace and prosperity, and once again the positions of the united states were very strong now due to the fact that the forces of the united states compared to other countries are already , well , not so strong. of security to dissolve it at all. look, you came up with the next question that i wanted to ask you. it seems that it was on facebook that you wrote that it should not be used and not called for liquidation

. can you explain this ? they write, why does this un exist at all and nothing more, no more arguments and just thousands of comments from viewers. i can understand this anger . i am also often very divided by the fact that there are no actions from international organizations, whatever we do. wanted very much, but it is necessary to understand that all international law is based on the united nations, which we can refer to by saying that russia violates it, and we can condemn russia for it, that is , if international law is beads from conventions and international agreements, then the organization of of the united nations is the thread on which all these beads are strung. for example , the secretary general of the united nations is the depository of 560 international conventions and agreements. this is a huge amount

of legal material that simply would not exist if it were not there. there would be no convention on countermeasures. financing of terrorism on the crime of genocide in another convention against which we are suing russia in international judicial institutions, it is also necessary to understand that without the un as a universal international organization, it would simply turn into such a regional fragment where the right of the strong operated, i.e. the same russia without separate plans would have planned in the cis countries, and no one could somehow intervene in this way to somehow prevent it , because there were regional fragments that exist by themselves, and i go around sleeping states on itself india with the state of south asia on its own africa on its own but look once again i apologize to you that it is but it seems to me that russia is acting like this and he is not doing anything now let's start from 2014 when was when

was the annexation of crimea when was the invasion of donetsk and luhansk regions and the un. well, what did he do? this is also a reasonable question . i can only say that there is no need to have illusions about roleon as a structure that can ensure global peace in the whole world. there has never been a common peace, i, as an internationalist who has studied international conflicts, can say that the world has spent 92% of its time in wars over the past 4,000 years, and thanks to the un we were able to avoid a world war, we saw two two world wars a lot in 20 years of the 20th century and the task of the un has always been not to prevent all wars, but to prevent wars between great powers that can

simply destroy their own , taking into account nuclear weapons. for them to spill over to the ball level of dc is a threat to everyone , this is the task and so far they are coping with it well, let's hope that they will somehow help us too because it seems to me that, well, as a simple consumer , as a citizen of ukraine, not as an international columnist of the espresso tv channel, when i i look at what he is doing. i see that he is not doing anything wrong. i will also add in connection with your comment that the un was created for normal states that did not want a repetition of what happened during the second world war and remained so for a long time. why now it is so difficult to oppose russia because it was one of such normal states and the whole world is like that because it defeated hitler 's germany together with the states of the western coalition

and it was simply expected that way. logically , a state that was created in a peaceful system cannot simply take her bricks, and russia simply hit this wall from international agreements, conventions that it had already concluded, that is, russia will still someday want to return to this family of normal nations, but she will already have a price for this will have to return to all these conventions from which she left again, er, recognize the jurisdiction of international judicial institutions, which she now denies, and so on, but for this there will already be a price, that is, she will not be able to return just like that, what do you mean, if more specifically, what could this be the price, that is, it is purely hypothetical. that at some point something will happen in russia, well, the victory will be ours. it is obvious that russia is changing power in

russia - these are hypothetical options. to return to the un, what price will it pay ? this is what you said. of course, you can answer this question by drawing an analogy with croatia . if you remember, yugoslavia is falling apart. in order for croatia to join the european union and become a full-fledged member, it needed to extradite criminals among croatian generals, it sometimes went hard and with a creak because the nationalists came to power in that period in the 2000s, but in the end, croatia fulfilled all the requirements of the international criminal court, fulfilled the requirements of the international tribunal regarding the former yugoslavia, all the criminals were extradited and successfully joined the european union. one way or another, russia will remain as a single state

or it will fall apart. to do this because without it, there will be no lifting of sanctions , no restoration of membership in international structures, and it will simply not be clear. it ’s an interesting analogy, really with croatia, i didn’t think about it. thank you for telling me about it, let’s go let's return to the un again and to what you write. you say that liquidation is not an option and reorganization is a good option, it raised the level of justice in the organization because as we understand the balance of power that was after the second world war and which is now strong changed then the state was much smaller, and now such powerful forces as japan and india, germany , brazil, argentina, etc., nigeria, south africa are rising . this is probably the first list that comes to

mind. permanent members of the council of the base, but the thing is that, for example, if we exclude russia and replace it with some other responsible state, for example, in india, then questions will immediately arise in pakistan, india, and both of them have nuclear weapons. and this can once again put the same contradictions on the doorstep nigeria, south africa , brazil and argentina will be there. and if, say, japan will enter, then ok, so there will be complaints, why is it japan? it simply requires a lot of diplomatic work, which is difficult to invest. even now in some kind of imaginary, but in the end i think it will be carried out because , well, it is unlikely that russia will retain its role there. i think that if china and the united states manage to reach

some kind of agreement between themselves, what, for example, replace russia with india somehow and in the meantime i will somehow compensate for it then, in principle, it will be a compromise option, because india is definitely an ally of neither china nor the united states there, and this is such a new balance. i see this as one of the options for getting out of the situation . well, look, if at the initial stage to take and do, cancel the legal right of these five permanent members of the security council, and look at canceling the legal right, there is such an option, and even recently the option was proposed by luxembourg, uh, it consists in the fact that now each of its rights has a veto, a permanent member of the un security council must be explained general assemblies in front of all the states of the world, that's why he decided to apply this legal, of course there is some legally mandatory mechanism there

will not be its cancellation, but this is something that will add or take away the legitimacy of this or that the application of veto rules is also a judge, because again, a normal state would want its decisions to have legitimacy , to be supported in the world, especially if it is a state with global influence, therefore, well, this is an essential thing, well, look, again, you say obligations. it will not be well, okay, russia vetoes something later at the general assembly, when there are many representatives in the hall of those present, she explains, motivates, there is a vote, they vote , but then, of course , there is no one in the implementation of this vote. i agree. yes, this is really a problem. the general assembly supported the territorial integrity of ukraine in the 14th year, in the 22nd year, we can see that there is a significant increase , if in the 14th year it was 100 states and the others abstained, they did not want to express an official

position, because relations with russia are very important, but now it is already 140 plus from the state. i think that this number will grow, provided that we conduct proper diplomatic work with all of them, and are we conducting this proper diplomatic work now? in your opinion, i see very, very significant steps in this direction. so, our dear minister foreign of affairs, dmytro kuleba made a tour of africa, which, unfortunately, was interrupted there due to the again blatant crimes of russia. but recently, he made a new visit where he spoke with the leadership of the african union, which is such an analogue of the european union in africa. and there, indeed, this essential work is being carried out. for example ukraine understands that africa should be offered to solve not only ukrainian problems, but also to understand africa's interests in general , suggested dmytro kuleba. he offered