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[000:00:00;00] the rest can be equaled, listen, even there, a third of the stock of these warheads is enough to destroy several continents, the whole earth there, or in general, the entire planet there , question the existence of the planet, so there is no longer a question there, 100 warheads or 200 warheads, everything is there. then you already know with great reserve that the issue of the safety of the entire planet is a big question . i apologize. well, actually, we remember that there were waves in our life in this part , well, such a-ah well, there were waves, there was a race weapons, then there was a moment of periodic deterrence, now we see that already well, by and large, russia and the dawn of china in north korea somehow well, they don’t care about the consequences and they only increase their military potential , what can be done to influence them, what can be used
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, mechanisms that have not yet been are involved in look at the sanctions. okay, the sanctions are the easiest to say, but the question is whether china is so integrated into world trade, for example, that it cannot be cut off, as the russian federation, that is, the russian federation, is very it is difficult to cut out of the world economic world economic space, and china manufactures a lot of things, starting from nails and ending with some psycho-technological things, lux lux lux brands for the countries of europe and the united states, and i just cut it like that. everyone understands that under sanctions against china, this means that the rates will rise it will accelerate more, i think there will be such special negotiations with china , maybe some concessions, maybe some agreements, i don't think that the issue of sanctions will be relevant to china, well, eh
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the trend turns out to be not very positive and full of such rosy prospects, but i hope that humanity and , first of all, the leaders of the most powerful countries in the world will come to their senses and draw certain conclusions, and ivan stopak, a military expert of the ukrainian institute , a consultant to the verkhovna rada committee on national security and defense and actually our broadcast continues until six in the morning says e-e tv channel tv company rada on the air of the general national marathon, join it will be a lot of interesting and important mr. oleksandr what today the case is about the deportation of ukrainian children from the point of view of parliamentary diplomacy, we understand that first of all we need to understand the ultimate goal from the point of view of practically this is the return of all deported ukrainian children home from the legal point of view we understand that in the end someday we very much hope that a special international military tribunal regarding the crimes of the russian federation against ukraine, recognizes what
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the russian federation is doing in ukraine as genocide, we understand that one of the clauses of the convention on genocide states that it is the transfer of children from one group to another that is, it is clearly a sign of genocide, of course we have to legally prove it. now we are working on it in two directions regarding the direction of the return of children . of course, this is the adoption of a numerical low resolution, starting with the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe and then the resolutions of the countries, the price of poland, the upper house of the french parliament soon the icelandic parliament will join and so on , we will increase this number of special resolutions that attract the attention of the international community of international organizations of other parliaments of the world regarding the issue of deportation ukrainian children, on the other hand, this is work on gathering evidence, and what does our general prosecutor's office do together with the international criminal court to record
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all these crimes and give them the necessary course of action . the verkhovna rada usually works closely with the ombudsman's office with the office of the prosecutor general, we provide all the necessary quick solutions, quick laws if they are still necessary. well , of course , we use all the possibilities of parliamentary diplomacy, hundreds of meetings are held, i alone have more than 40 or 60 meetings for the past year, and at every meeting we bring this to our colleagues from the parliaments of different countries, not only our allies who understand that they already support us in this, but also neutral countries and countries that, for example, do not support ukraine, and we tell them these terrible things, terrible stories and of course, many of them agree. what is this? well, it must be stopped. you mentioned the international criminal court, and she did not see this case in terms of scale and complexity. in fact , what kind of mirage
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are we currently in, in the legal, political or diplomatic sphere, at all costs? because legally there is a component of evidence collection and determination, even the compilation of some specific register, about which today the president correctly noted that we did not understand the entire amount, we understand approximately but we are working to understand it, of course , the diplomatic component is difficult because, as we see, the russian federation does not simply recognize this fact, she still tolerates it, some kind of state policy is certain, they say that we will take these children there, this butcher of theirs is meeting with putin, he says that i myself adopted someone, well that it's just terrible and of course in such a case it is difficult to exert diplomatic pressure. there are certain problems in this regard, but we will build up this coalition of our e-e partners. what do you hear today in general from the leaders of other countries from your colleagues in the parliaments of the world ? all the barbarity of this case, the world begins
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to understand more and more, the world begins to understand some let 's say so, the details that are revealed with each subsequent case, with each territory liberated there, with each subsequent stage of the war. yes there for someone it was a raisin for someone it was bucha for someone a raisin for someone kherson for someone i traveled through these cities , too, they help a lot, something is clear, the opening of the territory, when mass burials , when mass places of torture, torture sometimes applies to cases of sexual violence and in relation to children in particular for someone, it was very important to understand that russia continues missile terror, it does not stop, it is still a missile, and what has been happening in ukraine for the last month, yes, that is, in this person's mind , that it is possible to agree with russia there. is there any way to calm her there, they have already reached in all developed countries for a long time, of course we
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have to fight for the attention of the countries of the global rooster , which now occupy, in principle, such a neutral position in the majority. for example, this is a very important step and i think that in the future we will have a conversation with the chinese leader, that is, i think that in the future we will draw the attention of most of the countries of the world to ukraine and call for your discussions, which is the main argument if we talk about the warrant of the international criminal court for the arrest of putin, how much has it become a valid argument today and do the leaders of other countries hear you or has it changed their opinion about putin, especially those who were in some way sympathetic to him and still are? sympathy, this is not my politics here, everyone can choose for themselves the warrant of the international criminal court, everything is an important
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step, an important important part on this path , because we understand that for those countries that recognize the jurisdiction of the international criminal court, putin is actually not admissible, and now we see this, well, if it were, the history of south africa is so incomprehensible and drawn out, which is trying to understand what to do in different ways, yes, it is a partner of the constitution, yes, it is part of bricks, but now they are in such a situation, even when they are forced not to of course, this is a very serious step for those countries that hesitated or thought it was possible to remain neutral or even support russia there secretly somehow, yes, they understand that you already become just companions, just some kind of eh under eh who supports a person who already has a warrant from the international criminal court yes that is, he is already a criminal in fact within five minutes
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yes that is why there is a question yes and i think that in the future more countries will side with ukraine er in this component of legal diplomatic work she oleksandr returning to the topic of children , today in the parliament there are legislative initiatives that specifically concern the protection of our children and their lives in the new realities of wartime, we are always working on certain point improvements, they were collected in one of the laws that the verkhovna rada has already voted on. it expects its further development. of course, these are initiatives like these, calls for certain certain incentives of the world community in certain situations. we recently adopted such a resolution in march, it seems. if we talk about something in a broader framework , then of course we also pay attention to this issue of education and
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there are many important current initiatives . children could enter this and certain reforms in the field of education, thank you for the conversation, an air alarm signal was sounded in kyiv, which in some regions. cherkasy and vinnytsia regions. we urge everyone to take care of their own safety and wait for the battle. we also urge you to trust only official sources
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we continue to monitor the events and what is being reported from a number of regions. as you can see, we are praying from the shelter because , as i emphasize , an air raid signal sounded in kyiv. so, in the dnipropetrovsk regional council, namely its head mykola lukashuk , the night can be difficult, do not ignore the signals air alert well , the national police of the kharkiv region also urges everyone to keep calm and the enemy has started shelling the kharkiv region again, do not ignore the air traffic signals and stay in shelters the penetration of enemy shells, the destruction of the wounded, report on the special line 102, this is a message from the national police of the kharkiv region, and of course we remember the rule that we do not film and do not forward to anyone the work of the ukrainian air defense forces, we keep calm we take care of our own safety and wait for the battle so what number
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today we are working on how many of our children were taken away by the occupiers and how many we have already managed to return. if we are talking about statistics, we should talk about a few numbers that are on the children of war portal, this is the only one state information platform, you can see at least two figures. we are talking about the figure that the russian authorities voice in their media open sources, and this figure sounds like 744,000 allegedly evacuated ukrainian children. of course , this figure is not reported by any lists of children's personal data, so a-a neither ukrainian side nor any international structures or organizations nor a third country russia does not confirm this figure. can we trust it most likely? no, we do not trust it, because according to our data , there simply could not have been such a large number
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of children in the temporarily occupied territories at that time, so that they could according to our data , it may be about 200-300,000 ukrainian children who could have been used by the russians, although on the portal you will see a figure of a little more than 19,000,400 children, these are children who make up the register with personal data, the register of deportees and of forcibly displaced children, which are based on applications to the national information bureau of parents, relatives, witnesses or representatives of local authorities who became aware of the fact of deportation. how do you collect information about the whereabouts of children and, most importantly, in what conditions they are, unfortunately, this is the most difficult part of this work because if we knew where the children are, it would be much easier to return them . today, we do not know the whereabouts of the child, only if the child finds an opportunity to report to the side.
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yes, to their relatives , where they are, it is becoming easier for us to find them today, we can definitely say that the russians prevent all kinds of contact of children with their biological families on the territory of ukraine , they immediately take away the mobile phones of all children from those children who went to alleged russian camps on vacation there are mobile phones who had them but this also does not help because communication is quite limited and children are constantly being moved so where exactly are the children we cannot say what about all who today, the most likely scenarios of child abduction that you have managed to investigate. at the moment, we can analyze only those cases, it would be most useful those cases of children that we have already managed to return to date, that is 371 children, so after analyzing these cases, we can clearly say that there are at least five scenarios and already the sixth scenario a-a well, we practically researched it, that is, it is still undergoing research
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, that is, the russians kidnap children, separating them from their parents during filtering, first killing the parents, then kidnapping the children a taking children directly from their biological parents or other relatives, depriving them of their parental rights, taking out the institutions of institutional care completely and not allowing ukraine to take these children, but creating absolutely unsuitable conditions for living in the occupied territories for the children and then forcing the parents to give the child to the so-called rehabilitation camps in russia or to camps in the temporarily occupied territory , for example to crimea. well, the sixth scenario that i mentioned today. we already see that there are cases when the russians conduct so-called forced medical examinations in the temporarily occupied territory, and so a completely healthy child suddenly has some diagnosis that requires treatment or rehabilitation in the russian federation. in this way , the russians even select the children they want to take away, the children you managed to return, what do they say after
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returning? the children are of course very happy that they are finally on ukrainian soil , this is the first time , of course. to the russian federation, this is total russification, absolutely to them, and every day they said that their families don't need them, they don't need to call anyone , they don't need to inform anyone, they stay in russia forever , they will have an adoptive family, they will be adopted and it will stay that way forever, they are forced to listen the russian national anthem stand up during the russian national anthem every morning of the children in the camps began with the song russia forward and they were punished for refusing to speak russian stand up during the national anthem sing this anthem and they were punished, their food was taken from them, for example, for a day or two, they were locked up in an isolation cell for several days, sometimes up to a week , they were deprived of walking on the street, they were constantly psychologically
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humiliated, and sometimes they even used physical punishment, beating with sticks, and so on . well, we understand that they need help after they have survived, what kind of help is given to the children after the return, each child must undergo an individual and individual assessment of needs, where it is determined, and what about the child's state of health or needs treatment, what with the psychological, with the psychological condition, what level of psychological help does the child need, what provision of possible other humanitarian needs are necessary for the child, according to this, it happens in general, um, the individual needs of the child, i also want to talk to you about those children who lost their parents because of this war who remained orphans , what is happening with these children in our country today, how is their rehabilitation going, including adoption, and what results can you
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share, of course, for the country as much as possible it is important to move forward towards the development of family forms of upbringing, and the president of ukraine from the very beginning has said that the priority of the state policy on child protection is precisely the development of the family for the child, every child must have a family, and war, of course, we have even more challenges because of that that more children lose one or both parents, but i want to say that we are taking huge steps to ensure that children live in families and not in institutions of constitutional care, the majority of children who have lost their parents and received the status of already deprived of parental care or orphaned children during the war, they were placed in their biological families, although unfortunately still well. we are talking about adoption , yes, ukraine has taken incredible steps forward , and ukraine is actually a country that, despite
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the fact that during the war in every country , the adoption procedure is stopped, and ukraine , today i thank our ministry of social politicians were able to resuscitate the adoption service during the war, and not only that, thanks to cooperation with unicef and the ministry of digital transformation, we were able to launch a-a let's say the whole range of adoption services and candidacy for parents , educators in family-type orphanages or foster families or guardians through the portal e-e action, that is, today the entire package of documents can be generated and submitted through poltava , this does not mean that it is possible to adopt a child through the portal, but some of the steps that were previously difficult to do are now possible to do here so, many years ahead, we understand that the mental health of our children will be the number one task, considering what they go through every day in ukraine
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, considering the explosions that we have been hearing every day for the last few days. what do you think about the programs at the state level? now it is important to develop it for children precisely in the context of psychological help and stabilization , today a very powerful large-scale all-ukrainian program is being developed as a program of mental health of citizens under the patronage of the first lady of ukraine olena zelenska and this the program includes care and the creation of a system of care for all citizens of different categories of different ages, including children and teenagers . and i advise everyone to go to the website today and see what hotlines are available, what consultations are already available now, because wait until we win and then we will return i definitely do not advise to restore our mental health, especially when it comes to children and those who are already conscious. i hope adults who are close to the children because we have to take care of
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ourselves to take care of our children. thank you very much for the conversation, the tv channel rada continues to work as part of the marathon, the only news is that we are currently in hiding because an air alarm signal has sounded in most regions of ukraine, and now more details in all regions. so, in zhytomyr, vinnytsia , kyiv, and also in the capital, in cherkasy , kirovohrad, odesa, mykolaiv, kherson , zaporizhia, dnipropetrovsk poltava kharkiv sumy and chernihiv regions the rules of two walls well, also receive information only from reliable and official sources, because the enemy resorts to various manipulations, in particular , according to the site itself, a message from the operational command south, the enemy is attacking the south
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of ukraine with unmanned aerial vehicles , there is also a threat of a missile attack by the defense forces , be aware do not neglect your own safety, go to the shelter or use, as i have already mentioned, the rule of two walls and interfere with combat work, do not orient the enemy through the network of yourself and loved ones on the last one, i emphasize again that there is no need to shoot the work of air defense forces either. if you have an application about and you can report on the movement of enemy objects in the air, then use it - this is the only thing you should do when fixing the actual air targets in the sky , more details about the situation in the south , we will soon ask natalia gumenyuk , the head of the joint correctional process of the defense of ukraine, mrs. captain of the first rank . she will tell all the details, so we are monitoring
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the situation and will report everything on the air the tv channel board reached under the ruins of this house for two hours. they say that a seven-year-old girl was trapped by a concrete wall and the child miraculously survived. zhenya was operated on and now she is safe, but that morning a russian rocket killed her father, which means that the war broke another childhood. she took it away. yura's father as well as his brothers' andrii's and mom and dad's olivia will never see her mom dad's princess daniela's father's war crippled the childhood of yarik and yana stole
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the future from polina oleksia sashka kira alisa and millions of our other children are already talking to me that the apprentice here is the little one's name is alisa. she was born in a russian-occupied buchi. they were shooting outside the window, but at the time of the birth, i was concentrated on the birth itself. we somehow all tried not to think at all about what we had a war about what was happening outside the window and were concentrated on the very births. we had such a team of three neighbors, a doctor-therapist, a designer and a housewife. we had candles placed on the sides because electricity is nothing she was born in soseniya and did not breathe. tears are lying in my eyes. i don't understand when i cry because of the joy that i gave birth . is it
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because i don't know what will happen to her? меня i'm lying down and i understand that i just can't do anything, they started knocking on my ass, pulling my legs, screaming there , alice alice, and at one point she was already crying , they laid me on top of me, so she fought here in my brother's room. in which all this happened uh-uh, we also have this room and i stood there with cradles, i prepared in case of something to put our alice there and in a purse. we even have it here. i noticed that the alcohol that was processed by the scissors remained. joyfully , the news about the extreme but successful childbirth in the occupied buka quickly spread throughout the city, however
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, the very next day, the world shuddered at the news from mariupol, the russians dropped a bomb on the maternity hospital, three more people died, 17 one pregnant woman was wounded among them, and she died already in the hospital along with her unborn child. at that time, it seemed to us that the worst could not happen, but we were wrong . on march 16, russian planes bombed the mariupol drama theater, despite the inscription on the asphalt, which was impossible not to notice, there were more than 1,000 dead. people, they just wanted to survive, not just sit, king , women, children. unfortunately, we will never know how many of our children and their
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relatives were buried alive under the rubble of the mariupol drama theater, because already on may 20 the russians reported that they had cleared this zone. and all the bodies found were buried under nameless numbers in the occupied mangosh. he hardly talks about it. he is closed now. i hardly ask him anything, but psychologically there is a trump. he has become closed to me . he has become so much that he has more prickly ideas . that someone is walking with their parents there, or does someone there see that someone there calls mom dad and it affects it, it oppresses him, they are not his mother, but the older sister between andriy and tanya, there is a 15 -year difference, they don't even look alike outwardly because andriy went to his mother and tanya to his father. i was in kyiv with my daughter, and the parents were with andrii
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, er, in brovary, and when on february 24 , rocket strikes started everywhere, well, the key thing was that e. my parents left for chernihiv oblast with andrii . and i was taken from with my daughter, we went to zhytomyr oblast to visit my husband's parents. on march 1, she called and said that a large convoy of tanks was coming. well, to the village, well, somewhere, somewhere , she is going there to the village and, well, to gather something to leave, i am writing text messages, there is no answer in the connection, there is no uh, well, i am calling they don't answer, i've already started to call or i was afraid to call for the first hour, i was afraid to call because what if someone comes, i don’t even know what ’s going on there, you’re sitting on the phone , you don’t see anything, you don’t hear anything, i think i’ll call right away, and suddenly somewhere nearby, the phone rings , so what do i say in vibery, disconnect
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the phone and the sound does not answer. nothing was delivered, and already when i called my grandmother, i called my aunt, my sister, and probably two hours later. they only told me the phrase that there is no one there, only well the tragedy happened at this place, the car of the twins' family was moving from the village, and from here a column of russian armored vehicles drove at them in front of ten-year-old andrii . mykhailo's father, uncle serhiy were killed first. as the boy remembers, the mother was still alive. this is how the car looked after the meeting with the occupiers. it stood still for almost two months on the side of the road and now
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