[000:00:00;00] and how and how do i think it is a process of exchange of prisoners, can citizens actively influence it in any way, ah, well, in addition to spreading information and drawing attention to the problem of prisoners hm, rather, it is in no other way, why can we directly influence the russian fake justice no, we can't, well, i'm just trying to reflect people's attitude to this problem, to this question, secondly, people don't have any questions at all, and how should we relate to this? millions of words have already been said, there have been hundreds of interviews. prisoners on the topic of how to deal with it and how to react every time we expect, well, such people get the impression that we expect that here we are, we are just waiting for the russians to release someone's new film and they will boil the cages

, they will subvert the legal process, er, they will blow up barak on the deer park yes and every time, every time, they simply break through another bottom of their inhumanity and senseless senseless cruelty. and we ukrainians do not understand this and we do not need to extrapolate the way of thinking to the russians, because, well, they are not people a priori and everyone should have this attitude a citizen should not speculate and invent, for example, what kind of russia can we be without putin or is it putin's russia - no, it simply is, it is a foreign, er, destructive council, russia should not exist, and this is the only point of view that can be in general in our so -called discourse with on this issue, we understand that any conversations, including on the air , about people who are in captivity, are always very difficult and it is very difficult to choose the right words so as not to harm

the question about the current activities of the polkoaz, what is the priority now or are you recruiting new fighters, how is this process going now? well, first of all, it is very difficult to worry while watching tv, but it is very easy to meet your land with weapons in your hands. so, the division of the brigade, firstly , it is a different organizational and staff structure and other numbers, and secondly, recruiting is conducted constantly and everyone who is worthy and who passes the selection can join. the third easiest and best method for realizing one's active citizenship position for any citizen regardless of gender is military service and we can provide this opportunity to any citizen of ukraine, therefore, consider this a recruiting call, and we also have a recruiting center in lviv. lviv is a bit

sluggish right now, especially galicia, so i am very actively asking you to join the service . there are enough places for everyone. we are convinced that citizens are determined by the times directly. now we are also engaged in the formation of the e-e, the further formation of the brigade and combat activities and preparatory activities, that is, the full range of e-e actions that can be assigned by the country's top military leadership to our unit as its part of the national guard. i'll allow myself one last question . there are a lot of conversations right now about the ukrainian offensive. point out that one of the potential directions of this offensive could be the south, where the sea of ​​azov itself is located, which the russians are now temporarily calling their internal

sea. we say that this is one and one of their gains after a full-scale invasion and in particular about the city of mariupol, to what extent and in what time perspective we can talk about the liberation of this city, this is a typical example in general, uh, a lot of words, i and a speculative question, by the way, how will it be excluded militarily, as will be determined by the military leadership according to the plan, and will be done according to - firstly and secondly, the dreams of liberating all territories and this is very good , this is the prerogative of civilians. we have plans and we have organized actions, that is, there are orders for its implementation or non-implementation a-a-a about actions, well, use information from verified of official sources, and the ministry of defense, the general staff, they inform the general public in a timely manner about any important events that are taking place, the leadership of the ministry

of defense and the general staff requested thousands of , and, actually, precisely for this purpose, in order not to create information noise, information noise has already led to the fact that the military's perception of the information that reaches us is, as they say, behind the scenes, and it is very annoying because civilians look at the information behind the scenes, comment on it and make huge mistakes first, they use information from unverified sources, second - they comment on it, spending their time, their attention and our time, that is, time that we can spend on training, organizing units of coordinated personnel, developing plans in detail , working out in detail the provision of comprehensive support for units in the offensive, in the defense , it does not matter where we spend it what we say, we say because someone

has already said something about it, if someone said something, for example , well, if you understand what i'm talking about, that doesn't mean that you have to react to it this information dissemination law is again a huge hype and unregulated expectations, they have led to the fact that the demand in society is very large, but in society there must be a request, and what is mine there, and there must be another, it must be one for every citizen of ukraine every morning to get out of bed and ask myself what did i do for ukraine, what did i do for the defense of my country, this is a good question and a person should have an answer to it, if a person has a negative answer , or it is limited, for example , to a white-terrorist amateur approach, well then it is necessary to work better. i think that a lot of effort has already been made by the military and volunteers and e volunteers in order to

push this train of indifference from a standstill to throw it simply into the abyss , but still such a moment still exists in our society. the people who remain outside think that the war will pass them by, or they don't understand how certain processes are arranged. and i think that they may not be aware of them, but i emphasize once again with the same words that i said almost a year ago more year because from the beginning this is what our war is. it has the character of total. well, according to all indicators, this is a war for our independence and for our existence, for the existence of our state , we have no chance of defeat, we have no right to defeat in order for us to win victory for us the mobilization of all resources, all the resources and efforts of every citizen is very much needed. no person can remain

a thorn in the hope that there will be some magic wand, it does not matter whether it will be either a western military contingent or western weapons or i don't know how they say we look like a smachina and at the last moment - it's a destructive plan . well, it won't be like that . it's great, of course, it's good, but there is one nuance: they don't fight on our land, they die on our land every day, and once again, returning to the issue of the information field, ukrainians have now played a lot in this reality show called and when it comes to us

new weapons, yes, even though the doors to the assembly center and recruiting centers are open with us, and there is no need to wait for new weapons , because in principle, all weapons shoot the same. we were not modern, it was everything that was too much, it was not a unit , but not even good, not the best , not in the most modern way, armed people, but organized people, this is already an army and it is worth understanding, that is, you don’t have to wait, time is equal to death, time spent is equal to death, and time spent on preparation in advance , this is life, survival and the future. thank you , ilya, call sign handel samoilenko, lieutenant temporarily acting as the deputy commander of the brigade. we congratulate you, those who have joined us are mykhailo golovko , chairman of the ternopil regional council, people

's deputy of ukraine, 7-8 convocations, congratulations, where am i , lyakhovych, adviser, deputy head of the office of the president major acting commander of the third battalion of territorial defense in 14-15 years taras shevchenko polish politician public figure and journalist of ukrainian origin deputy of the diet of the second and third term mykola hollansha with us first deputy of the voluntary formation of the territorial community of kyiv patriot first deputy of the prosecutor general of ukraine in 2003-2010 and 2014-19 yury podlesny, head of the ethics, politics, economics program, head of the department of ukrainian political sciences of the catholic university good evening, you have already witnessed a conversation with yulia samoylenka, who as a military officer and i think this is an absolutely typical position is determined

that we should talk less, we should instead act more, but on the other hand, when we hear that it is not necessary talk about weapons, and then how should we conditionally perceive today's statements by the minister of defense, who talks about the bird coalition, as he calls it, new types of weapons and new opportunities for training ukrainian pilots, and on the other hand, now we want to show in ours a quote from podolyak - this is an adviser to the head of the president's office - this is the official speaker of the ukrainian government, at least no one has stated the opposite, where podolyak says that the war will end , of all the words, the most important thing must be singled out , the war will end before the 24th year, well, that is that is, by the end of this year, you know, translating from diplomatic to such a simpler language, mr. golom, what do you think about this, what stage of the war are we in, because the offensive continues, maybe we would like a repetition of

the kharkiv operation when we are at the same time woke up and the whole of kharkiv region was almost liberated on the second day, many more populated areas . yes, we would like a repetition, including the kherson situation, when the russian military simply took over and retreated , but now it is obvious that they were able to build such powerful defense lines and so quickly everything will not happen or there will be something for us to expect. well, i would like to say a few words about the thesis of a colleague who just spoke on skype about the fact that we should not wait for weapons, he did not mean that we should not expect weapons and the west help, he said, there is no need to discuss what we need to join the armed forces, what we need to prepare, we need to be able to defend ourselves

first of all there is a battle and we need to learn to defend the motherland, that is, there are no contradictory words here , it does not matter what stage we are in, you know, we must understand that this is a battle with a big, strong enemy, where we should not entertain ourselves with thoughts and say that today or tomorrow we will win. we must fight as if every day were the last, if it were the last day we lived on earth because of that how we will fight depends on how we are determined and success also depends on what we are determined to do because the thoughts of mothers are watching i think that uh hmm i think that the enemy already understands that he has lost the war the enemy understands that they have exhausted all the reserves that

they had already put forward the economy, many specialists are talking, reasoning, saying that there is a billion dripping every day, it is possible that it is dripping and it is obvious, but the fact that the economy is in decline and they do not have the opportunity to replenish their reserves, this definitely helps us west and west unanimous opinions what help will go to us to the last and everyone is determined that we must liberate our territories and the talks must take place exclusively within the framework of the un charter of our national legislation regarding the first meetings of the gathering there on the minefields a small number of our the equipment was damaged, but you can see that the cream today turned on what it can do, this is propaganda. i

was just driving and talking with the guys from bakhmut , they are speaking to the russians, speaking to our radio stations, they are in the war zone, they are talking about what our the leadership thought that they should give up, guys, go, that is, there is quite a lot of nasty propaganda today, in addition to our forces, we must turn on the full force, and the international department must turn on our information machine, and we need our own proper propaganda , because we are fighting for the truth and we cannot allow the enemy to succeed we will overcome this, i think that this war will not last long, this is an obvious fact, it is obvious that internal cracks have begun in russia, russia is starting this

is the beginning of the great end when their volunteer corps of russians incites people to fight against the putin regime, they say that people from the villages are already volunteering to join the ranks of the volunteer volunteer corps, we see how in the elites of the so-called elites, he called them elites, serious friction cracks are beginning and the struggle for the presidency is already underway the chair between individuals such as prigozhin there and others eh and where eh, respectively, on the opposition company, which already today declares itself eh at the european level and which already says that they are also

included in the fight against the putin regime that is, we see the destruction from the middle and it weakens the enemy from the other side, i just did not state that we are here tomorrow the day after tomorrow , because after the ekakhov hpp, which they destroyed, they already tried to destroy the karlovka map lviv reservoir in donetsk region . this destruction has passed. but i think that the enemy will use the most cynical, the most vile methods that will harm the population, so i emphasize that we must now get involved very seriously. we must inflame the ukrainian people, especially in the united states america to go to the united nations organization because today the united

nations organization, i have emphasized this more than once , is about 35% filled with the russian segment. it can be seen that today the un directly does not want to see the obvious facts and they doubted who blew up the kakhovka hpp , that is why we must rise today. may be followed by other man-made dangerous objects that they can destroy . well, as for our army, i will tell you that eh hm, i 'm not saying that i went around the entire front there now , but i happened and had the opportunity to communicate

to see that our fighters are set on a complex a determined struggle, why is there no such advancement if it was wanted because the leadership of the armed forces does not throw people for meat like the russians do, they are hitting logistically at the control centers, they are lining up the weak points that and today we are talking about where they are going they will advance and advance will be a whole bridgehead there is a place to advance and north and south and uh, i think that here we should know this only when there is another gesture to a gesture of goodwill of course you have to understand that the enemy is besieging our zaporizhia nuclear power plant and

this must be taken into account. as long as they hold it, they can take any dangerous actions very carefully , but confidently, and the armed forces are moving confidently , as well as the previous colleague who gave his predictions that there will not be enough in russia has the strength to fight until the end of the 24th year because all objective factors indicate that they are already sinking and the army is panicking , they are very panicked at any attack on our armed forces as soon as they have a little more advantage , they throw equipment and ammunition

everyone abandons and runs away, we have motivations , our soldiers are motivated, and we must form only such a fighting spirit in ourselves. a serious vesneil struggle, but to expect victory as soon as possible, absolutely, we, these studios, are gathering to talk about the official statements that we hear from the authorities , first of all, because we agreed somewhere at the beginning that this is the most important source of information for us, so we start with that what do they give if they are sure that it will be completed by 2024, then we will definitely not doubt there territories, here is her quote, the defense forces of ukraine continue to launch an offensive operation with partial success, in particular, in the past day , currently in various sections of the bakhmut direction, the ukrainian defenders have advanced

from 200 to 500 m, and in the zaporizhia direction , they have advanced from 300 to 350 m, and we all understand this the price is given to us by this every meter and it is extremely important, kyrylo budanov, the chief intelligence officer of the ministry of defense of ukraine, can afford to remain silent on the air, he calls for such a reaction to the fact that what is happening right now, in particular, is the counteroffensive, it is not enough to say, he appeared here in this video, we will now show him where kyrylo bohdanov reacts to what is happening now, not verbosely, after all, as a media, as a means of mass information, we cannot afford to simply remain silent we have to at least give you the information that we receive and share with our experts in the studio the opinions that they hear from communicating with the military in order to be informed. i think that this is for us now what

could be more important and that we can do this really, what are we doing at this place hmm, mykhailo golovko, you have a word, good evening, studio, thank you for the invitation, it’s really, uh, now is a difficult time for us, and for everyone waiting for good news from the counteroffensive, and directly . last week, i was in the east, i went to our guys to the front line and exactly the direction of bakhmut was the time of peace, he was on the side closer to the estuary, where our svoboda battalion is located , he drove them cars and starlinks there, other munitions that they ordered, the situation is difficult , for example, yesterday there were heavy losses seven a man died, that is, the battalion, and not because there is a powerful shelling, and that is, hoses, the island is being shelled from the opposite side, from the russian side , they have an advantage, an advantage in the number of weapons , in the number of shells, we have an acute shortage, and this is true, and therefore, under such conditions, it is very difficult to make a counteroffensive.

that there will be great losses because the offensive is to be done when you have an advantage in weapons in artillery and such technology when you have aviation and when our allies tell us about what you are doing counteroffensive and we will give you tanks in six months and a year demo helicopters we will give the planes and but the coordination - the counteroffensive is already taking place, you understand, well, it is a little wrong when they are already manifesting, you understand the statements of macron there among other european leaders that after the counteroffensive we will sit down at the negotiating table, we will agree, that is, in principle, they already understand that the counteroffensive will practically be almost without success, and therefore we will have to sit down at the negotiating table, and they are very much counting on this, that ukraine will sit down for these negotiations. either way , putin will continue to threaten, it will not be lukashenko to make statements about nuclear weapons, then zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant will be blown up or some other man-made disaster, what about any conditions , you should sit down at the negotiating table. that is, we see that even this ipso was launched from moscow , which was picked up by the west, and you, right? look after

the explosion at kakhovsky gas did you notice that there was not even a single criticism of sharp condemnation and so on. on that day , the un celebrates the day of the russian language, that is, in dubai, the russian flag is displayed there. does not condemn as a state terrorist this is the majority today russia is for example probably a more criminal organization than al-qaeda but for some reason i say they have a quiet opportunity to buy further technologies chips there s- circuits to make weapons the criminal goes exactly in a day it does not make how many times interest is there and i i say that, but you understand. that is, where is al-qaeda and how is the relationship with russia in the world and other countries and they have not blocked them today they sell oil they sell gold, diamonds, wood trade with the whole

world and sanctions do not work and move away from words, who didn't turn it off, we see what's going on under the video, you understand, we were waiting for those who say yes, we shouldn't wait for weapons, because first of all, really, we are obliged to actually think about our own safety and do everything ourselves in order to our air defense system was powerful. by the way, we were among the leaders there, we were among the ten countries with the most powerful air defense systems, the fact that from 8 years of war until the beginning of a full -scale war, we did not modernize it, this is also a question for us, for our authorities, and so on for the destroyed all those warehouses and for those 30 years of disarmament is also necessary for all gentlemen. to get somewhere our time after the war to attract, to judge them, to understand who sold these weapons and who armed our state, but i want to reduce it to the fact that today we had to in a year and a half, fully include the powerful mobilization of our economy , our armed forces, if not on the territory of ukraine, then at least outside its borders with by our partners to sit down to develop because we are waiting for them to give us this, we see that this is not there, that there should have been so many tanks, we sold them, they handed over how many, but they are not modernized, they do not have

active armor, and without active armor, it is the same i mean, you understand this too, that's why not everything is so simple, and that's why today, when we see that there is pressure on ukraine and in the media, there is now a turning point, especially after the kakhov hpp, so that the west does not support us, does not condemn russia, and this clearly became a factor for me as well. it is outrageous that there was such an intense pressure on ukraine, let's press on and sit down at the victory table, as if everyone expects that our counteroffensive will fail, it will, and it will be successful . of course, we would like us to be your enemy completely, but here are those statements even of ours there officials. they also calculated that at what stage, at what limit will this counteroffensive stop, or do they already have it, as if it had already been decided last year, they blocked us with the grain agreement, which offensive to the south this year they blew up the kakhova hydroelectric power plant, and so on . and it does so let's just advance to the side e i apologize to the donetsk direction so where are the most fortified

positions where there are 10 lines of defense where it is most difficult to do this you understand therefore this offensive of course it will be very unfortunately slow with mine in my opinion therefore we should not count on it all will be there quickly and so on , first, this time. they are pressuring us to demand an agreement there, all the others, you see the statements that the vatican sent a representative of his mother jupi there, that the european leaders there are declaring that now they are the same ones, we see the statement from totenberg who say that we have no guarantees of entry into the nato and no one to us will say when it will be, that is, in principle, you have already frankly explained that they do not see until the war in nato takes us

. this does not mean that the war is over, it means that this issue is still being postponed, that is, we must understand, you know, as our brilliant poetess lesya ukrainka said best in her time that whoever frees himself will be free. so that ukraine does not win, so that this status remains. well, it did not lose and did not win, because what is the victory of ukraine? it is the birth of a new and not a leader. but the moral authority and the powerful center of europe to which everyone will gravitate, resources, funds, and so on , investments, all of this is for that country to manage you won't, she will have her position. and when we are dependent today, give us credit , give us weapons, of course it's easy to pressurize and demand. you can dictate, tell, you understand, and that's why, of course, it's possible and there are forces that are interested in us not winning, and we have to recognize

this and understand that the enemy is very powerful, very strong, his tentacles are spread all over the world in other countries, too, so there must be maximum internal mobilization we are currently going through a major demographic crisis, you understand, 29 million , according to experts' estimates, there may even be none, that is, if in the 90s the population of neighboring turkey was 60 million , and we had 52, now there are 85 and we there is no, they have almost shrunk, they have doubled why, because there are just such in principle of the policy of economic nationalism , the principles of family support are not there, as well as lgbt propaganda, and so on and so on , a strong state is being built. and here, on the contrary , the enemy from within is trying to dismantle those on the one hand, he kills and destroys with rockets, those from the inside destroy the family, and that is, how should we move, then we, friends, must understand that the situation is not easy now, even without