[000:00:00;00] wheel what are you killing your ukrainians i don't believe that people from kryvyi rih do not live in russia people from odesa well, they don't hear or they speak weakly or we don't hear something, that is, this terrorist, uh, he will do anything and therefore well, the only thing is that we we can do it, fight on the battlefield, and i will say yes, to cheer up a little, ours went ahead, because it is a little demotivating to stand in the place of the troops , and how about on monday, glory to ukraine, this is a verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko. greetings to all , minister of defense of ukraine, oleksiyia reznikova after the meeting in the rammstein format, brussels reported that he had received a commitment from the allies to start training for ukrainian pilots on western fighter jets, we are talking about f16 fighter jets, and these trainings may

take place in denmark and the netherlands , other members of the anti-putin coalition, who have already there are 50 participants , the european parliament called the undermining of the kakhovka hpp dam a terrorist act and condemned russia. accomplices of a terrorist act of a terrorist act donate to the kakhovsky hpp that happened on june 6 well, meanwhile, russia will continue - continues to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine as of june 16 , ukraine has already lost 217,910 people in ukraine in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 580 cakes since the beginning of the great war , the russians have already lost in ukraine 3,955 tanks

, 767 armored fighting vehicles , 3,793 artillery systems, 604 rocket launchers, 364 anti-aircraft defenses, 314 aircraft, 301 helicopters, 6,473 units of automobile equipment 18 ships boats 1199 cruise missiles - 3.33 drones 519 units of special equipment in russia the judge of tyazets leps and baskov will buy us leopards and lukashenko is preparing for a nuclear war stage we will talk about other things during the next hour i want to introduce today's guest this is a people's deputy of ukraine former head of the security service of ukraine valentin nalyvaichenko mr. valentin i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air i congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes let's start with

the 13th meeting of rammstein, because today is quite such a showy and big conference, and part of the people participated online, part offline in this meeting , big meetings and in this format, this is the largest format that exists in the world today anti-putin and er, we understand that the future of ukraine depends on this anti-putin er format. i suggest listening to lloyd, the guest of the united states secretary of defense , who commented on today's events on rammstein, and then we will discuss them. i ask that the members of this contact group continue in-depth work on providing ukraine with air defense means and ammunition that it so urgently needs to protect its citizens. we also continue to adapt our systems to the changing circumstances and changing needs

of the ukrainian forces. lloyd dostin actually called for it , but we already have a solution, we know that uh, in the west states provide regular aid packages, each one their own. but the most important thing is that different people said that the bird coalition will exist and they will definitely go to ukraine in 16, because the pilots are starting training and until by the end of the summer, the question of the transfer of the f-16 to ukraine will obviously be resolved, so let's take a look at the results. what's new? of ukraine have confirmed that universal fighters in 16 our armed forces will receive the second training of ukrainian pilots of our best top gang, ukrainian is also starting, it will be up to 50 in the first

wave of young ukrainian pilots with knowledge of the english language where they will study in one of the european countries of nato, then this is what, by the way, you and i have repeatedly discussed sergey on the air and, as you can see, we truthfully informed our citizens that this is what will happen, that the f-16 ukraine will now receive in terms of the number of us in the first wave or this summer, by the end of this summer, this year, 4 squadrons are needed, why four, and because precisely in the directions east, south, north, and west , 10 to 12 combat aircraft are firing, that’s how many in the first wave, and primarily with ukrainian pilots, and i will also add guidance officers, i.e. combat control of f16 aircraft, they will also be trained and received from ukrainian specialists, as well as

the maintenance teams of these f16 aircraft , why is it universal and because it works at long distances, because it works with any with missiles on their wings and air air and air ground but the most important thing is that for the ukrainian armed forces, for this counteroffensive and subsequent offensives, combat aviation such as in 16 is needed in order to preserve the lives of our defenders and one more thing i will focus on the fact that the f-16 is also extremely necessary for anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense and protection from lviv to kharkiv of our cities, air defense, destruction from combat wings by f16 missiles, russian terrorist missiles that attack and as we can see, russia continues to use missile terror yesterday of other rammstein results, they with your

permission, i will say very briefly that our allies are already adding hundreds of additional missiles for the air defense of ukraine, so there will be additional missiles from the united states for patriot systems are not the most serious and most urgent needs of the armed forces of ukraine, do i understand correctly, valentin, that the west where there is a clear understanding that no one is going to lose in this war to the russian federation and the west will stand with ukraine until the end, which means victory ukraine in the finale of the russian-ukrainian war will be exactly like that. that's exactly how it will be. the anti-putin coalition will stand until the russian army is knocked out of ukrainian territories, once the head of the joint staff committee, general march milli confirmed

this directly without any exceptions, you know, and because of the signs that such support will not waver, not stop until the ukrainian victory . ukraine as a future member of nato and i believe that this is the most about the nato ramstein, which took place especially on the eve of the july summit of the member states of the alliance of nato member states, where ukraine now has very serious prospects of receiving long-term support and in the near future, nato's doors open to us will be for ukraine's membership, and the most important thing is that our armed forces of ukraine are becoming more and more powerful according to nato standards, both in weapons and in training, but for our tv viewers, it may be very important to know how many ukrainian defenders there are already

trained military personnel in nato countries received training, so you and i know that more than 24,000 of our defenders have already completed training, completed combat training, gained experience, and the necessary knowledge in nato member countries is a serious number of our defenders and such programs will be continued, including with ukrainian top-gaming pilots, as i call them ukrainian for f-16, in order for ukraine to advance to the north atlantic alliance, the consensus of the 31st member of the north atlantic alliance is needed, while today we have the support of 20 participants and e the question is very simple, and can ukraine become a member of nato if, for example , the fifth article is not taken into account, which is always mentioned. well, for example, ukraine joins

the north atlantic alliance, but the alliance does not undertakes obligations in the event of an attack on or well, in the event of a conflict, the entire alliance stands up for this country, that is, ukraine receives the prospect of nato membership, but with the exception of this fifth article, is this possible just no? just ukraine's membership in nato will the full application of all articles of the collective agreement, including the article that provides for the protection of all, all countries enter to defend. if you want, at least one foreign aggression has been carried out, this is exactly what we are talking about and this is what it is. this is the full membership of ukraine in nato, give us a little time i'm talking about myself and people like me who work with every nato member country, especially the united states of great britain and france, give us time until the end of this month, i think in a few days you will see

quite serious international contracts and visits by our partners nato to ukraine and these visits will depend a lot on how far and how quickly nato will be able to bring ukraine to ukraine. for example, what israel has from the united states or taiwan is important for us to understand that all our entry and acquisition of membership in nato. now we see how specialists consist of three important elements: first, weapons for the armed forces and training of our defenders; second, security guarantees from the countries

-members of the nato alliance, and the third is the very membership itself, the very entry into nato, this is t three components that are inseparable, no, they cannot be separated, and that is how in the complex they are now being carried out by us anyway. well , consider the ukrainian-ukrainian war. nato members because, well, you can't nato intervene for us already in the process of, when the war is already going on. so far, such a position is at the level of the guiding history of the general secretariat , but the world is changing and it is being changed by the armed forces of ukraine and ukraine, and let's see what we can do still to do for ukraine the issue of nato membership, yes, by the end of this month, then already in july, in july, at the very summit at the level of the heads of state. i think there will be announcements, but i assure you that the maximum will be and what we will receive. this is support for the armed forces forces

ukraine, and it is, in fact, nike now the most important main goal of all our actions, and it is important to understand that we need nato already after the end of the war, because we have at least two neighbors and two leaders, this is essentially one, agree with sergey, even more so now that lukashenko the atoll has not even received russian weapons, but everything is already threatened, although we still have russian nuclear tactical weapons even on its territory, but here it is also important to understand, and i will reveal a little to our tv viewers how exactly we will conduct negotiations with member countries as members of the allies, we say and recognize that the assistance to the armed forces of ukraine from them, from each member country of the alliance, is essentially an investment in their investment, but in our collective security, and that is why ukraine needs power and because they have already supported us with weapons because you have already taught

tens of thousands of our defenders, so who but ukraine should be exactly the flank of nato that will protect against future threats from the russian federation, a few days ago there was information that the international criminal court in asia began to investigate the terrorist attack by the russian federation on the kakhovsky hpp, president zelenskyi spoke about it in particular, at the same time today it became known that the european parliament called the undermining of the e-e dam at the kakhovsky hpp an act of terrorism and condemned the russian federation. today , a resolution was passed in the parliament and the parliamentarians called on the european commission and eu countries to provide all necessary assistance in the flooded area, including equipment, drinking water, food products , and they supported the investigation of the international criminal court in the case of destruction the dams are on your e-e p valentin, the result of this investigation should be

another warrant for vladimir putin since we know that he already has one warrant for the deportation of ukrainian children on the territory of russia - this is quite a serious crime in the world and qualifies as a serious crime here it turns out that the use of the dam that they blew up is qualified as a war crime because it is a weapon of mass effect . that's right, that is, if the iss will investigate this terrorist attack. that means another warrant for putin, another arrest warrant for putin and for other military leaders who are involved in the commission of this terrorist attack, to detonate the dam, to the use of such detonation as a weapon of mass destruction, as an armed force of destruction due to the flooding of civilian, peaceful territories of our state and the infliction of huge

environmental and human damage, that is why this is what under international law the detonation of dams qualifies as the use of weapons of mass destruction and punishment, such use of weapons of mass destruction is through the international criminal court, firstly, inevitable, secondly , such a warrant finally appears to be life-long up to and the rest and the punishment of such international criminals , that is why we are insisting on it. it is good that the international criminal court took up this case. and one more thing, not only the arrest warrant, let's say putin and the russian leadership, but also the decision of the international criminal court on this proceeding in this case. important in order to confiscate more and more russian property, russian money, russian assets around the world i remind you that the international criminal court is a special judicial

institution of the un and it is important for us the members of the un began to implement decisions in warrants and other orders of the international criminal court in those cases on the investigation of crimes of the russian federation, crimes against humanity, war crimes and the crime of genocide, and everything in american legislation has the concept of a country sponsoring terrorism, although russia in this case is not a sponsor and perpetrator of terrorist attacks, that is a terrorist state, we see that during the last 15 months of the great war , russia terrorizes not only ukraine, but also the whole world, that is, they seized the zaporizhzhia npp and they are terrorizing the whole world with a nuclear possible nuclear explosion, now they staged a terrorist attack on the kakhovsky hpp, which led to ecocide, and in general, not only ukraine and bulgaria, romania and other countries

located in the black sea basin will be affected by this, we see that russia at one time seized the chornobyl npp which was also dangerous for the whole world, but so far the united states of america is delaying granting or recognizing russia as a sponsor of terrorism, although this is a rather serious sanctioning mechanism and it should beat everyone who will cooperate with russia in all countries, in all companies, in all natural legal entities , why according to you, washington after all no, well , maintaining such a distance and cannot recognize russia as a sponsor of terrorism, although well, it seems that everything is obvious, everything is not simple. it is obvious this is exactly the case and there is more , the united states of america and the white house and institutions such as the us treasury department, they actually followed the path of applying sanctions, and if

you remember, there were quite a lot of sanctions, but not all of them, as we, ukraine, are now bringing to known to international partners, not all sanctions work and not all are effective. russia very often circumvents international sanctions , i will tell you what, for example, with european partners , we are now talking about the ukrainian parliament. we are working to do everything possible to close loopholes, especially through third countries for supplies anything that can be used by the russian federation for the production of either missile or other dangerous weapons, and now this issue is being resolved, i think that everything will be done in the near future will the european union join america to apply sanctions and not allow re-exports through third countries such as kazakhstan, armenia, and turkey , including that through third countries the russian

federation does not receive from the eu or the united states any country, any technology, any spare parts for production of repeated missiles and other weapons against ukraine is now a question of questions, and in my opinion, this is exactly what the efforts of our international partners and the united states of america will focus on another issue that is quite important for ukraine, the trial of the ukrainian military has begun in rostov-on-don. 22 e-e prisoners who appeared before the court and were captured on the 22nd year in may face 15 years to life imprisonment in the case of complicity. to the terrorist organization that was previously announced in russia, and it is clear that in this situation , a logical question obviously arises, why why

did these people not fall under the exchange as planned from the very beginning, this is the first well and the second, and why in we don't have such trials so that we see the russian invaders on the dock, some kind of open trials of people who committed crimes, war crimes on the territory of our country, whom we would later exchange for , including the azovians, because it turns out that they will be convicted and receive all the terms of the sentence 15 years or how many or 15 from 15 years to life imprisonment? and we, well, we don't have this exchange fund . changed special forces who have already been convicted, who have been proven, their guilt has been proven, why are there no such processes according to you in ukraine , the first thing is that we need to return all our

defenders and the civilian population and ukrainian children, there is also drama and difficult situations for us, for ukraine, yes defenders first of all, but also first of all, children, civil activists , patriots, in fact, russia, as a terrorist , has kidnapped and continues to kidnap ukrainian citizens, both civilians and military, but if you ask me, why is this, for example, a courthouse over and at all they are satisfied with only one purpose propaganda propaganda propaganda russian because whether they will conduct trials or not we need to return our defenders as during the war there are not so many mechanisms, the only working mechanism is exchange and really only the armed forces of ukraine can do this the exchange fund actually acquires what they do every day and i think that

there is no other way than to exchange and return our defenders of children and civilians and you mentioned the 14-15th year, so i then created a center for the return of non-illegally obtained on these about the exchange and we then in just one year think serhii embraced and returned 2,716 citizens of ukraine and there were also civilian military and special forces, there were very different people , but the main thing is that we returned them and will continue to return them, here we need to say less , do more, do less politics and more because this is an extremely dramatic and always very difficult personal story of any person who fell into the clutches of the aggressor who and what kind of our ukrainian person must be returned regardless of time and rank and position

that is, then it happened at the level of the sbu and the fsb, i understand correctly, yes, well, now the gur is dealing with this . as far as i understand, that is, as far as i know, this is a special center created under the president, under the office of the president, but i will repeat to everyone we help but do not prevent this exchange from happening already when our people return home, this is where attention should be paid, especially to the local authorities, of treatment and rehabilitation , but before this happened, less as we comment more, you know, as we hope for more the number of our people freed this week is very large. putin commented on the entry of the so-called special military operation, but when they will end there, but at the st. petersburg international economic forum, they presented a neural network called zhirynovsky and the neuro-network volodymyr volfovich told not only when it will end special operation in ukraine ich

let's see it will end special military operation in ukraine special military operation in ukraine will continue until peace is fully restored and without all techni for all the goals we have set, we are trying to end this armed conflict. unfortunately, we were forced to do it by armed means, but we did not start it , so we are all projects of a long cycle . 7 ago вот но сейчас corrections are made, well, that is, putin admitted that 5-7 years ago he had plans to attack ukraine in relation to a major war, yes, even than 5-7 years ago. well, you know how russian

propaganda very often speaks for itself documents itself for and this is one of the examples, and with regard to different voices , they say the same thing, i will tell you that these detectors are recorded in the kremlin simply on the computer , you know, under one or another deep fake, you can use different different voices but russian propaganda is heard from and continues, you know, to tell your own citizens your uh-uh prescribed propaganda myths uh-uh, but i’ll tell you that um, first of all, we don’t believe absolutely all the so-called digital zhirinovsky or uh-uh putin is it putin or not putin even russians doubt and secondly, no one in the world he does not believe in russian propaganda and every meeting in our country is special. now, when we work in the parliament with our european partners , we always emphasize and now he directs in the language he says to turn off the russian propaganda lands on his territory and

you will live more calmly and safely and you will not listen this delusion in a digital or other version, valentina, they not only raised zhirynovsky from the other world, but also mobilized lepse and baskov so that they promised a million rubles for each knocked down leopard tank, look who will like it there leopard leopard 2 million rubles we, as creative representatives of creativity, contribute to our soldiers so that we know that they are doing this not only because it is a civil position, but we do it because we want them to know that we are close to them so that we can give land for our soviet army to our russian army and we

will do it with a pure heart if we can sing where we need because we will drink there by the way, baskov was already a people's artist ukraine at one time, well, no, we didn’t recognize him as such, and they didn’t give him such a title. this is already a matter of history, so if i may make a short comment, well, this is an example when the empire has, you know, the services of the empire’s cats who serve and what are they? people, creativity has nothing to do with creativity. this is the same propaganda again, and the reaction can be very simple and harsh, and all the real estate and property of the baskov lepseyevs should be confiscated abroad, and everything should be directed to the purchase of leopards and everything needed for dude, it’s so firm, calm , and by the way

, it’s a good idea. there are quite a lot of these so-called cultural figures in the russian federation, that is, they do it because they have such a conviction, or are they still trying to play by the rules of that system and simply make money from it. well, this is an income for them. everything is very simple. it's money for them money from the russian budget, therefore, near this feeding trough, they, as you know, pigs will do anything to be allowed to go to that trough. that's all. well, on this optimistic note, we will put an end to it. i hope that there will be inquiries about basque and lepse, because we really need to to put them in place i completely agree with you thank you mr. valentin for the conversation it was nauk valentin nalyvaichenko people's deputy of ukraine former head of the security service of ukraine friends

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