[000:00:00;00] you can become a sponsor of our youtube channel by word of mouth, join our resources, we will thank you for this, i will say goodbye to you until the next program, we will have valery chaly diplomat, so wait. goodbye from ukraine, olga palamaryuk works in the studio and today we are talking about the coalition of fighter jets for ukraine battle for heaven's sake, when the first western multi-purpose fighters will not arrive in ukraine, we analyze the results of the meeting by formator stein, are the promises of partners enough to change the situation at the front, and what is special about f16 bbc report from

air base in norway, the 13th meeting of the contact group on the defense of ukraine in the rammstein format took place in brussels, ukraine's allies talked about military aid and what ukraine was waiting for the most about combat aircraft for the armed forces of ukraine, so what is known by the minister of defense oleksiy reznikov according to the results of the meeting announced that the allied countries have pledged to start training pilots , the training process should be led by the netherlands and denmark, later other countries will join the so-called bird coalition green the light on pilot training was confirmed by the head of the pentagon, lloyd austin, and the minister of defense of great britain, denmark, the netherlands, and the united states announced that they are urgently providing ukraine with air defense equipment to protect against russian attacks. they are talking about a hundred short-medium-range anti-aircraft missiles and accompanying systems, but when will they provide ukraine themselves combat aircraft, how long will it take to train pilots? and as for the engineers, then the combat control officers, whose work is no

less important than the pilots themselves from brussels with the latest news, a bbc correspondent jonathan, what usually happens at such meetings of the country, the donors of military aid to ukraine, led by the united states, announce the next packages of this aid even before the current conference. the united states announced the details of their new defense package, so we got an idea of ​​what it is focused on. anti-aircraft defense we started with norway and the commitment that they supply more artillery shells is the focus of the current counteroffensive, which the minister of defense of ukraine informed other ministers of defense about from the official statements, we only heard that it was said with toltenberg that it is premature to draw any conclusions, everyone here is careful with words and conclusions. yes, they have seen certain ukrainian successes on the front and also know about ukrainian losses, but no one is going

to evaluate this offensive. so this is the main focus of the current meeting. what is happening now and another question for the long term is the rebuilding of the ukrainian air force , it takes time, but there is another question , take into account that this meeting will take place immediately before the nato summit next month, so the question arises as to what security guarantees nato will provide to ukraine, there are countries on the eastern side of the alliance that would like to provide ukraine with a clear schedule of membership in the alliance after the end of the war. and there are other countries that want greater uncertainty in the issue of membership, so all this must be resolved before the summit, but for now the main focus chained to the situation on the battlefield on the ground and not in the air. however, in the end, there is also a desire to help ukraine rebuild its air force. the transfer of f16 fighters to ukraine is only part of the challenge

currently facing ukraine to achieve dominance in the air requires not only the skill of the pilots, but also the infrastructure, the main material and technical support, the bbc film crew visited the air force training camp in norway to find out how difficult it is to teach a military pilot to fly f-16 fighter jets , this is exactly what ukraine was begging for and why the event for so long, he did not want to provide the american fighter f-16, belgian pilots with the call sign pulse studied for three years to master flying on it, a jet aircraft developed in the 80s, long before this pilot was even born fine. flying is the easiest, the rest is more difficult for ukraine, weapons are everything, and at 16, you can shoot down enemy planes and

hit targets on the ground, you can use anything, any bomb from the nato arsenal, if we, as allies, still send weapons to ukraine then this is exactly the fighter that can use it, but the united states says that it is too difficult and too expensive to teach pilots to fly and to maintain planes. in the nato exercises in norway , dozens of planes take part, more than the entire ukrainian air force and restoring them at the expense of western fighters will not be just a quick-acting pill, it will take time to develop their real ability to operate f16 with weapons, but it is a huge signal when it comes to the desire to help ukraine build a modern air force, a number of countries could

theoretically provide ukraine with f16 in europe they are gradually being written off and replaced by more modern f-35s, but so far the only firm commitment is the training of ukrainian pilots. you are even an experienced combat pilot , it takes months to fly such an aircraft and still it is not clear which countries will provide ukraine with f16, how many and when, and even if the answers to these questions will appear soon, ukraine will also need qualified engineers to keep the planes in flight. and this also takes time. you can’t just give a fighter jet and say it’s flying, it’s a logistical chain that needs to be support so this is a long-term signal that we support you and we will support these exercises demonstrate the scale and sophistication needed to

dominate the skies even russia has not been able to do this with its considerable by the air force, if ukraine receives an f16, it is unlikely to suddenly change the course of the war, we continue the topic together with a military expert, we are in touch oleksandr kovalenko. congratulations, many analysts said that ukraine needs an advantage in the sky to win, but here's how we just heard in the story of our correspondent f16 well , it is unlikely that they will significantly change the course of the war, but i wonder what opinion you adhere to. greetings. yes, it is possible that they will not radically replace a- a which one, but on the other hand, it will be a very important auxiliary element that uh-uh first of all

will help the ground forces, namely what, and we do not have aviation today, which would be technically and technologically close in quality to the f-16, in turn, the russian occupiers , the russian troops. counter we cannot counter them solely at the expense of our air defense systems, and because, again, we lack the western ozerov air defense system , that is why we do not place my previous ones on the front line. planes, on the other hand, it is the f16 that has all the properties and a full range of weapons to not only establish a transition, but even complete and at some point dominate the russian aviation, and that is why we need them at least for a-a cover of our ground forces and also control in the airspace

that is near the front line oleksandr well , at the same time, we recall the beginning of the war, so then the west hesitated to provide ukraine with weapons, then in the end, patriot tanks gave in, the same situation, well, with fighter jets, the story it is repeated in your opinion , why do they take so long for fighter jets? maintenance and basic repairs, medium repairs, major repairs, where they will be carried out, and most importantly, if it is an airfield that will be fully equipped for these fighters it will be located on the territory of ukraine, which will provide

it with the necessary security from missile strikes from the russian federation, because we understand that as soon as this object appears, as soon as f16s are placed on it, the russians will choose it the number one object for applying rocket pedals. so he needs a frantic anti-aircraft defense , that is, protection that would guarantee safety if 16 is really a lot of challenges. well, what do you think . when, after all, can western fighters be on the battlefield, so at best according to the forecast, it is autumn, as most experts say. yes, i also believe that it can be one of the months of autumn, and it can be either yellow or stop. and it is precisely the questions about the airfield that will appear, and it is quite complicated, so i do not rule out even such an option

that time er temporarily they can be located at the airfield and one of the countries that is exactly on the border with ukraine, and that is, it can even be poland , for example, as an option, and after some time, when the issue with the airfield on the territory of ukraine will be resolved, definitely this fighter will still be located on the territory of ukraine. thank you for the conversation. oleksandr kovalenko was in touch with us. well, so far , the f16 has not yet entered service with ukraine. dmitrushkarevsky is only 26 years old, but he already has a lot of flying experience about the working days of those who defend the ukrainian skies. see further. what do you think about the transfer of polish or slovak

of myths in ukraine, these are old planes, how will they help, of course, the planes are not young anymore, but they will probably help with the number, because already during the war, we lost many of our people, not only our brothers, but also planes, so there are fewer and fewer planes, and as there were many tasks, there are still but for some reason we have to fly and you are right that the planes are not young anymore and often there are some repairs on the planes and because of these failures we may not complete some task, so we are very grateful to all partners who help us or can talk a lot about the need transmission of f16 to ukraine eh or hm or mirage there or f18 a lot of people call it eurofighter someone called very different many options i wonder how long it would take to master this type of new aircraft probably the most difficult thing is that you have to come eh at the beginning this is learning the language

because what is this language barrier, it is somehow more difficult to pass almost all planes fly the same because of the same physics and therefore mastering a new type of plane is the most important thing in order to switch to the english language learn aviation english and only then when you leave retraining for the new, that is, the main thing is not to learn to fly, to fly, the main thing is to learn to fly quickly, the main thing is to work with all the means that are in the plane to arm it , i knew well, i had all the information, and then it will all be fast, i think, and a person who wants that all the available resources in this case, the planes have not been handed over to us yet, but we have already started to prepare, our guys are already finding some posters of the cockpit at 16 so that some

button is already teaching that this handover took place, it is a matter of time, not only ours brigade, other brigades are somehow buying simulators, they are preparing, they are already setting up computers, they have already found special devices to supplement this reality, and they are already studying in the computer labs, how to turn on, how to fly , little by little, it is already passing, and when the moment comes, they will say that the phases have been driven. it will be much easier because they will already know how to launch a plane, and well. all that remains is to master it all live and that 's all for today. look for more stories on our website bbc.ua. on our pages in

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ramstein what will the coalition of fighters from field in rammstein in a few minutes, the correspondent of radio svoboda will join us and tell everything ukraine must take advantage of the window of opportunity for a counteroffensive this year, because kyiv is unlikely to take the next steps to liberate its territories before the beginning of the spring of the 24th year, besides, it is not known whether it will be ready the event to help again such an opinion was expressed by the president of the czech republic, peter pavel, in an exclusive interview with radio svoboda, an exclusive interview will be shown soon well, the armed forces of ukraine continue counteroffensive operations in at least three directions, the general staff declares and agrees with this assessment, the american institute for the study of war, what is the nature of these operations and what is known about the state of the russian troops. at this stage of the ukrainian offensive , svoboda life said today that the armed forces of ukraine are continuing their offensive in the zaporizhzhia region in the direction of berdyansk, the process reported today representative of the general staff of the armed forces

of ukraine, andriy kovalev, according to him , fighting continues in this direction in the area of ​​makarivka, that is the velikonovosil district , as well as near novodanilivka and novopokrovka in in the pologiv district, the defense forces are also advancing under bahmuth, they were successful in the direction of krasnopolivka and verkhivka yagidne , this was also stated by kovalev, a representative of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine. well, reuters, with reference to western analysts, writes that today ukrainian forces are concentrated near the city of orihiv in zaporizhzhia region and velika novosilka in the donetsk region, so experts assume that ukrainian generals can focus on the occupied tokmak, which is approximately 25 km from front line well, and to melitopol, which is located 50 km further, at the same time, analysts add that both settlements are well fortified by russian troops for

defense. well , konstantin denisov , a fighter of the freedom legion, joins our broadcast. we will win, glory to the heroes, i understand that your comrades and the unit are partially or completely concentrated somewhere in the zaporizhzhia direction . can you tell me what is happening there now? air alarm rosnyak the next one raised its aviation, they have a lot of aviation, they actively use it, and now, uh, we have a number of areas on the contact line where there are constant battles, the battles are heavy, i say right away because the russians, giving credit, let's say it directly, they did not waste time all year, they

were digging, it's various they have fortifications and natural and artificial fortifications, engineering barriers, they have planted minefields around the territory temporarily occupied by them , which leads to heavy confrontation. although there are certain movements in certain areas, there are also losses on our side and injuries and equipment is damaged, but the guys are being brought back to life if there is a big thank you to the zaporizhia doctors, the guys asked to be transferred to the hospital today zaporizhia are working to save zaporizhia boys and bring them back to life with severe injuries, light injuries and recovery handsome guys well, just on all 200%. it's actually me you just partially mentioned , i wanted to ask you how much do you assess the quality of the defense fortifications

of the russian troops in the zaporozhye direction, you say that they have managed to do well there during this time to dig in. yes, they have personnel here, engineering or sapper services, and as one of my comrades says, they dug in according to a method . they are actively leading the development of drones and then covering our guys with heavy artillery. they have enough artillery. here there is enough from uh, well, a variety of light grenade launchers to heavy artillery

systems, anti-aircraft missile defenses, they are machine tools they are shelling vehicles. location. can you point out any specifics? actually, how does the situation in the zaporozhye direction differ from all the others ? well, i can only point to the areas where our guys are standing and compare them with other areas of the front where the guys from the legion are also located. we have such a special feature of freedom . by the way , we have such a special feature of repelling an air alarm in the zaporizhzhia region that there is a full-time russian army standing here, which has experience of combat operations there since the days of the russian chechen russian georgian war in including in syria, which, well, and after february 24, 22, received a lot of combat in the kyiv region and in the donetsk region

, there are experienced soldiers, including special-purpose units of military intelligence paratroopers, and therefore there are quite a few it's a difficult situation for our guys to advance , that's why there are certain movements, but the situation can change, i 'm saying that well, in principle, here is the cadre russian army and they introduced the number of artillery. these are probably the features and plus a lot of drones literally yesterday, today, on the territory of the temporarily occupied territories of the zaporizhia region, there were representatives of putin's united russia party, who brought another batch of drones here, reconnaissance drones, and these anti-drone assault rifles to fight against our aerial reconnaissance, so there are quite a few russians here, well, they are certain so far

they have supply and supply channels for equipment. if they were normally supplied by certain of their units, that’s why i say the enemy is very dangerous and the means of supply are still working. as you said yes, konstantin, i have one more question for you. the other day, the ministry of defense announced that in the territories of the kherson and zaporozhye regions , the russian military is allegedly blowing up small dams. who does it affect? ​​well, the main task of such operations of theirs . well, what they are doing is not a secret for a long time

. now in zaporizhzhia, the water is actually receding in some areas, even if, er, somewhere else , roughly speaking, some islands have already emerged in the middle of the rivers that were flooded. therefore, this is like one of the elements of informational and psychological operations, and now i have already told your colleagues that professional russians have come here soldiers, the same channel, zvezda is the russian ministry of defense, russia 24 rascha, there will be a variety of its launches and dispersal, e-e, various e-e fakes, including e-e, as examples, they plan to launch in on social networks, there are allegedly videos from the phones of destroyed ukrainian soldiers, where ukrainian soldiers are allegedly swearing, cursing, and criticizing the ukrainian military leadership and western equipment, this will be, i say, it will be a russian informational and psychological operation

aimed at destabilizing the situation, if you can say so konstantin, the last question. what in general? to what extent can you say this? what about the advance? how difficult is it for the ukrainian army to find every kilometer of land there and , in principle, can you somehow characterize this advance and the offensive? about which, in particular, the general staff was informed today that it continues with great difficulty due to the fact that the russians have dug in and brought trained combat-ready personnel with extensive combat experience here, and besides, i am saying this is a diverse, multi-layered defense of theirs, and each advance is given to us at a sometimes very heavy price, but very a big plus is that there is good modern equipment, which, although

it is damaged during attacks, but most importantly it saves the lives of our brothers. zaporizhian doctors, but the situation is difficult, i say here, everything must be very careful and competent, what our guys are doing, in particular, there is the destruction of russian equipment . freedom, thank you, the armed forces of ukraine used only a small part of the trained units and the main battles are still ahead, so writes reuters with reference to western analysts, in particular, the publication quotes a military analyst from poland, konrad musik which indicates that currently ukraine has used only 3 of the 12 brigades prepared for the counterattack , actually ukrainian officials previously stated