[000:00:00;00] and it is obvious that the issue of the transfer of the f-16 to ukraine will already be resolved , so let's take a look at the results. what's new? have confirmed that the f16 universal fighters of our armed forces will receive a second training of ukrainian pilots of our best top-gang - ukrainian is also starting, it will be up to 50 in the first wave of young ukrainian pilots with knowledge of the english language, where will they be to study in one of the european nato countries, this is what, by the way, you and i, sergey, have repeatedly discussed on the air and, as you can see, we truthfully informed our citizens that this is what

will happen, that ukraine will receive f-16s in terms of quantity in the first wave or by the end of this summer this summer, this year, four quadrilles are needed, why four, and because precisely in the directions east, south, north, and west, lilia reminds me of 10 to 12 combat planes , that’s how many in the first wave and primarily with ukrainian pilots, and i will add also with guidance officers, that is, combat control of aircraft in 16, we will also train them and receive them already from ukrainian specialists, as well as the maintenance teams of these aircraft , why is the f16 universal and because it works at long distances, because it works with any missiles on its wings and air and the air and the ground but the most important thing is that for the ukrainian armed forces, for this

counteroffensive and subsequent offensives, combat aircraft such as in 16 are needed in order to save the lives of our defenders. for anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense and defense from lviv to kharkiv of our air defense cities, destruction from combat wings by f16 missiles, russian terrorist missiles that attack and as we see, russia continues to use missile terror so that the results of rammstein are fleeting. with your permission, i will say this very briefly, our allies hundreds of additional missiles for air defense are being added right now, so will additional missiles from the united states for patriot systems. this is not what i consider the most serious and the most

are the needs of the armed forces of ukraine urgent now? do i understand it correctly, mr. valentin, that the event is to clearly understand that no one is going to lose this war to the russian federation and the event will stand with ukraine until the end, which means that the victory of ukraine in the final of the russian-ukrainian war will be exactly like that exactly like that and there will be an anti-putin coalition that will stand until the russian army is knocked out of ukrainian territories, once the chairman of the joint staff committee, general march milli , confirmed this directly without any exceptions, and because of the signs that such support will be unwavering and unstoppable until the ukrainian victory, and as you know what he said, it is important that this rammstein was already, you know , the rammstein of all nato member countries with ukraine as a

future member of nato. the summit of the member states of the alliance of nato member states, where ukraine now has very serious prospects of receiving long-term support and in the near future the door of nato will be opened for us for ukraine's membership, and the most important thing is that our armed forces of ukraine are becoming more stronger according to nato standards, both in weapons and in training, but for our tv viewers, it was probably very important to know how many ukrainian defenders have already received training military training in nato chess countries, so you and i know that more than 24,000 of our defenders have already went through training, went through combat, gained experience, and needed necessary knowledge in nato member countries, this is a serious number of our defenders, and such

programs will be continued, including with ukrainian top-gam pilots, as i call them ukrainian for f-16, in order for ukraine to advance to the north atlantic alliance, the consensus of the 31st member of the north atlantic alliance is needed, while today we have the support of 20 members, and the question is very simple, but can ukraine become a member of nato if, for example, we do not pay attention to that article which is always mentioned. well, for example, ukraine joins the north atlantic alliance, but the alliance does not undertake any obligations in the event of an attack on or well, in the event of a conflict, the entire alliance stands up for this country, that is, ukraine receives the prospect of nato membership, but with the exception of this fifth article, is this possible? no, no, ukraine's membership in nato

will involve the full application of all articles of the collective agreement, including the article that provides for the protection of all countries, all countries join to protect. if you want, at least one is implemented external aggression is exactly what we are talking about and this is what it is. that is the full membership of ukraine in nato. give us a little time . i am talking about myself and people like me who work with every nato member country. especially by the united states of great britain and france, give us time until the end of this month, i think that in a few days you will see quite serious international contracts and visits by our nato partners to ukraine, and a lot will depend on these visits, how far and how quickly nato ukraine will be able to do much more in ukraine, firstly , membership, secondly, and long-term assistance for

our armed forces and continue to provide weapons. and the main thing is to issue security guarantees for, like those and what israel has, for example from the united states or taiwan, it is important for us to understand that all of our entry and acquisition of membership in nato. now we see as specialists consists of three important elements: the first is weapons for the armed forces and the training of our defenders, the second is security guarantees from the member countries of the nato alliance, and the third is the membership itself the entry into nato itself, this is t three components that are inseparable , they cannot be separated, and that is how in the complex they are now being carried out by us, in any case, since the rozhevsk ukrainian war, we will not become

members of nato because, well, you can't nato to stand up for us already in the process, when the war is already underway. so far, such a position is at the level of the leadership of the general secretariat, but the world is changing, and it is being changed by the armed forces of ukraine and ukraine, and let 's see what else we can do for ukraine on the issue of nato membership, so to at the end of this month, i will already be in july, in july, at the summit itself at the level of the heads of state. i think there will be announcements, but i assure you for sure that the maximum will be and what we will get. so this is support for the armed forces of ukraine, and it is, in fact, now nike the overriding main goal of all our actions, and it is extremely important to understand that we need nato after the end of the war, because we have at least two neighbors and two leaders

. everyone is already threatened, although we still have russian nuclear tactical weapons even on its territory, but here it is also important to understand, and i will reveal to our translators a little how exactly we are currently conducting negotiations with the member countries of the alliance, we we say and admit that the help now given to the armed forces of ukraine by them from each member country of the alliance is essentially an investment in their investment, but in our collective security and that is why ukraine needs the government and because they have already supported us with weapons because you have already trained tens of thousands of our defenders, who but ukraine should be exactly the flank of nato that will protect against future threats from the russian federation. in a few days, the information that the international criminal court of uaz

began to investigate the terrorist attack of the russian federation of the federation at the kakhovsky hpp, president zelenskyi spoke about this in particular, at the same time today it became known that the european parliament called the undermining of the e-e dam at the kakhovsky hpp a terrorist act and condemned the russian federation, today a resolution was passed in the parliament and the parliamentarians called on the european commission and the eu countries to provide all necessary in the flood zone, help, in particular, equipment , drinking water, food products. well , they supported the investigation of the international criminal court in the case of the destruction of the dam. the result of this investigation should be another warrant for vladimir putin . since we know that he already has one warrant for the deportation of ukrainian children on the territory of russia

. e qualifies as a war crime because it is a weapon of mass impression comes out e-e exactly so, that is, if the icc will e-e investigate it as a terrorist act that is, it means another warrant for putin, another arrest warrant for putin and for other military leaders who those involved in the commission of this terrorist attack, to blow up the dam, to use such a blow-up as a weapon of mass destruction, as a weapon of mass destruction due to the flooding of civilian, peaceful territories of our state and the infliction of huge ecological and human damage , that is why this is the case under international law, the blowing up of dams qualifies as the use of weapons of mass destruction and the punishment for such use of weapons of mass destruction is through the international criminal court, firstly

, inevitable, secondly, such an arrest warrant is issued and is for life until the arrest and the punishment of such international criminals, that is why we are insisting on it. it is good that the international criminal court took up this case. and one more thing, not only the arrest warrant , let's say putin and the russian leadership, but also the decision of the international criminal court on this proceeding in this case is important to us because to confiscate more and more russian property , russian money , and russian assets around the world. decisions on warrants and other orders of the international criminal court in these cases on the investigation of crimes of the russian federation, crimes against humanity, war

crimes and the crime of genocide, and everything in the american countries is a sponsor of terrorism, although in this case russia is not a sponsor and perpetrator of terrorist attacks, that is, a terrorist state during the last 15 months of the great war, we see how russia is terrorizing not only ukraine, but also the whole world in general, that is, they seized the zaporizhzhia npp and are terrorizing the whole world with nuclear weapons with a nuclear explosion, they have now staged a terrorist attack on the kakhovsky hpp, which led to ecocide, and in general, not only ukraine and bulgaria, romania, other countries located in the black sea basin, we see that, at one time, russia seized the chornobyl npp, which was also dangerous for everything world, but so far the united states of america is delaying granting or

recognizing russia as a sponsor of terrorism, although this is quite a serious sanctioning mechanism and it should hit everyone who will cooperate with russia in all countries companies for all natural and legal entities, why according to you, washington after all no, well, maintaining such a distance and cannot recognize russia as a sponsor of terrorism, although well, it seems that everything is obvious, everything is not simple. it is obvious that this is so and there is more than that, the united states of america and the white house and institutions, such as the us treasury department, they actually followed the path of applying sanctions and if you remember, there were quite a lot of sanctions, but not all of them, as we ukraine now inform international partners that not all sanctions work and not all are effective russia circumvents international sanctions very often, i will tell you that, for example, with

european partners, we are now talking about the ukrainian parliament . -terrorist and other dangerous weapons, and now this issue is being resolved, i think in the near future the european union and the united states will not allow the application of sanctions circumvent by re-export through third countries such as kazakhstan, armenia, turkey, including that through a third country the russian federation does not receive either from the eu or the united states , not a single country, not a single technology, not a single spare part for the production of missiles and other weapons against ukraine, this is now a matter of questions and on this is exactly my view . the efforts of our international partners and the united states of america will be focused on this

. another issue is quite important for ukraine . the trial of the ukrainian military over the azov people began in rostov-on-don on the 22nd prisoners who appeared before the court and were captured on the 22nd year in may face 15 years of life imprisonment for their involvement in a terrorist organization that was previously announced in russia and it is clear that in this situation a logical question obviously arises why why didn't these people get exchanged as planned from the very beginning, this is the first thing, and the second thing, why don't we have such processes so that we see the russian invaders on the dock, some kind of open trials of people who

solved crimes, war crimes on the territory of our country, which ones would we later exchange, including for azov residents, because it turns out that they will be convicted. all the terms are 15 years or how many, or 15 from 15 years to life imprisonment. and we don't have this exchange fund which a convicted person who went through these procedures. i remember that from 14 to 19 years we had such trials and we exchanged special forces officers who had already been convicted who had been proven their was proven why are there no such processes according to you in ukraine, the first the main thing is that we need to return all our people defenders and civilians and ukrainian children in this there is drama and difficult situations for us for ukraine yes defenders first of all but also first of all children also civil activists patriots russia in fact as a terrorist

kidnapped and kidnaps ukrainian citizens and civilians and military but if you ask me why, for example, this is a court over and they are completely satisfied with only one purpose propaganda propaganda propaganda russian that is why they will hold courts or not we need to return our defenders as during the war there are not so many mechanisms, the only working mechanism is the exchange and really only the armed forces of ukraine can actually acquire this exchange fund, which they do every day and i think that there is no other way than to exchange and return our defenders of children and civilians and you mentioned the 14-15th year, so i then created a center for the return of non-illegally received for exchange. and then in just one year, think about it, we embraced and returned 2,716

citizens of ukraine, and there were also civilians the military and special forces were very different people, but the main thing is that we returned them and continue to return them here, we need to talk less, do less politics and do more business because this is an extremely dramatic and always very difficult personal story of any person who has fallen into the clutches of which invader and which of our ukrainian people should be returned regardless of the time and e-e rank and position, well, that is, then it happened at the level of the sbu and the fsb, correctly, i understand yes , yes, now the gur is dealing with this as far as i understand, that is, as far as i know a special center was created, it is under the president, under the office of the president, but i will repeat to everyone, we help as much as we can, but we do not prevent this exchange to take place already when our people return home, here

, especially the local authorities, treatment and rehabilitation attention should be included, but before it happened , less how we comment, you know more as we hope for a greater number of our people to be freed this week, putin commented a lot on the entry of the so-called special military operation, but when they will end there, but in st. petersburg at the international economic forum, a neuro-network called zhirynovsky and the neuro-network volodymyr vulfovych told not only when the e- e special operation in ukraine will end. the russians

and of all the goals set, we will agree to end this armed conflict . unfortunately, we were forced to do it by armed means, but we did not start it that's why we are all projects of a long cycle, they are planned in advance and then implemented and implemented like this how do we plan there or 5-7 years ago, but now we make corrections well, that is, putin admitted that even 5-7 years ago he had plans for an attack ukraine regarding the great war even earlier than 5-7 years. well, you know how russian propaganda very often speaks for itself and documents itself for. the kremlin is just on the computer you know, under one or another deep fake, you can use various different

angles. but russian propaganda is heard from and continues, you know, how to tell your own citizens their own prescribed propaganda myths, but i will tell you that, first of all, we do not believe absolutely all the so-called digital sources or putin is it putin or not putin, even the russians have doubts and secondly, no one in the world believes in russian propaganda and every meeting we have, especially now when we work in the parliament with our european partners, we always emphasize and now he directs the language, let's say he will turn off the russian propaganda lands on his territory and you will live more calmly and safely and you will not listen to this delusion in a digital or other version. valentina, they not only raised zhirynovsky from the other world, but they also mobilized lepse

and baskov in order for them to promise a million rubles for each destroyed leopard tank, look who will like a leopard there, a leopard-2 million rubles, we as a creative representation of creativity contribute to our soldiers so that we know that they they do this not only because this is a civil position , but so that they know that we are close to them, that we can do it for our soviet army, our russian forgivers of the army, and we will do it from the bottom of our hearts if we can sing where we need to , we will drink there by the way, baskov was already a people's artist of ukraine in his time, uh, well, neither we nor you. no, i didn't recognize anyone as such, and they didn't give such a title. this is a matter of history, so if i may allow a short comment

, well, this is the example when the empire has, you know, services for cats empires that serve and but what kind of people are they, this has nothing to do with creativity. it's the same propaganda again, and the reaction can be very simple and harsh, and in the case of baskov , all real estate and property abroad should be confiscated . calmly, and by the way, the idea is good, they said. we will do it. i just never saw these speeches. and now, why don't we add them to the list of demands, there are new ones for compensation for damages from russian aggression, and by the way, these there are quite a lot of so-called cultural figures in the russian federation, that is, they do it because they have such a conviction , or are they still trying to play by the rules of that system and simply make money from

it. well, for them, this is all about earning. very it's just that it's money for them, money from the russian budget, that's why near this feeding trough, they, as you know, pigs will do anything to be allowed to go to that trough. better because we really need to put them in their place. i completely agree with you. thank you, mr. valentin, for the conversation. it was nauk valentin nalyvaichenko, people's deputy of ukraine, former head of the security service of ukraine, friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our social networks and on the youtube platform for those who are currently watching us on youtube , please like this video and subscribe to our youtube channel. well, you can become a sponsor of our youtube channel, it

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