[000:00:00;00] we have already come to the very change the following frames may shock you news from the scene live kamikaze drone attacks political analysis objectively and meaningfully there is no political season exclusive interviews reports from the hottest points of the front freedom life frankly and impartially draw conclusions yourself this is a program verdict we are working live, my name is serhii rudenko and we have another guest on the call , viktor yagun, major general of the security service of ukraine in reserve, former deputy head of the security service of ukraine, general greetings and i'm glad to see you on our broadcast good health, let's start our conversation with alexander lukashenko, because the self -proclaimed president of belarus this week carried with

him the tactical nuclear weapons of the russian federation , which were imported into the territory of the republic of belarus, according to him, the weapons that entered belarus are three times more powerful than atomic bombs dropped by the united states of america on the japanese cities of hiroshima and nagasaki in the 45th year, and the deployment of these weapons is considered by the dictator as a deterrent against potential aggressors, at least he himself explain, let's hear what lukashenko said. well, please. yes, they were kept exactly like dogs in the village. we already restored five of them today . we will restore them more

. me and putin. does this mean that in this situation the pronoun we is an attempt to convince the belarusians first of all that russia will protect us, meaning the republic of belarus and that nuclear weapons will save someone there and not become a point of which will be retaliated against in the case of the use of tactical nuclear weapons. those who also have nuclear weapons, well, it is a strange situation because, first of all, there are no nuclear weapons on the territory of belarus at the moment . well, what did he say there, where does he keep them, and what is he there it was restoring his personal problems, secondly, the very mechanism of using nuclear weapons is so regulated that if he thinks that he will call and get permission to shoot somewhere politically, well

, russia should think first, first of all because they will shoot back not only from where this rocket projectile was fired from... well, let 's be honest , no one is going to transfer any strategic weapons to him, these are tactical ammunition that are used either with kanders or daggers or in artillery shells large large caliber, they are small in size, but they are stored in the appropriate they must be assembled in the appropriate premises, the appropriate sensors must be guarded by the personnel who must control these weapons. bodies, and this is definitely not about belarus. this is one of the arguments why ukraine

did not have to keep its weapons, er, even tactical weapons. it was because the maintenance of these weapons costs more than their production. that's why belarus. maybe, well , lukashenko can say a lot of things, we don't know maybe he means we are the first emperor. i don't understand what he means there, but the lies and the brid that he introduced in that forest, well, it's just a refined me. i especially liked the story about his coming to lviv and the secret negotiations because... is with ours as the head of hura, well, it’s just fantastic, why to lviv, why not to uzhgorod, not to lutsk, somehow she chose that way. that is, everything must be divided into a very, very large number, and there is very little truth. at the same time, the belarusian position accuses western politicians of

being silent about the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons outside of russia since the collapse of the soviet union in 1991, and why is the world quietly watching because, as you explained, everything is under control and if putin had not moved these tactical nuclear weapons are all accounted for anyway and the west sees everything and understands everything and knows how difficult it is to use these weapons, the location of these weapons requires certain procedures just like that somewhere to load the boxes into a car and take them out of there in the dark of the night, it will not work, there is technical intelligence, there is control uh, from uh, space satellites, the space group, as i suspect that there is intelligence uh, information from uh, those sources who uh, work for our partners, after all, we now have

someone to communicate with in russia, so there is nothing extraordinary about that to be nothing secret also will not be able to move these weapons will be known online against this background, maria zakharova, spokeswoman for the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation at the st. petersburg international economic forum, said that the hypothetical use of nuclear weapons by russia is clearly about extraordinary circumstances within the framework of naval defense scenarios, we will hear zakharova and once again, i would like to confirm that i am fully committed to the principle of the inadmissibility of nuclear war, i cannot be the winner , it must never be untied we consistently call on all other parties to adhere to these principles, together with the statement of the leaders of the five nuclear-weapon states and in the prevention of nuclear

war and the introduction of an arms race. it is limited due to ordinary circumstances within the framework of purely electoral purposes as it is not meaningfully prescribed in the military dak coach of the russian federation federation from the 14th year and the confirmed basis of the state policy in the field of nuclear deterrence from the 20th year, our country reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to the use of nuclear and other types of weapons of mass destruction against it and its allies, as well as in the event aggression against the russian federation with the use of conventional weapons, when the existence of the state itself will be threatened

, the principled position remains unchanged. a criminal and the founder of a private military company, wagner did not rule out the fact that russia could simply strike the belgorod region , where the representatives of the russian volunteer corps and the freedom of russia are currently conducting raids, saying, well, the russians are so reckless, they can simply test this tactical nuclear weapon on their territory, in principle, no one it will not prevent us from doing how likely such a scenario is, because as you know what is on prigozhin's mind or on his tongue, there may be something on putin's mind after they everywhere by cooling the reservoir, blowing up the roach, it is difficult to count on any adequate reaction , committing ecocide of a large area of ​​the country, and trying to transfer it to others, the situation is very simple, they did not

just include the territory hostilities as part of their state through the constitution, it is clearly written in them there is one of the points that was called the possibility of a state or territorial loss of some control over territorial integrity there are a lot of moments zakharova nesses listed and actually there is that moment which is related to territorial integrity, that is, relatively speaking, according to their law, they can storm our territory and say yes, we defended ourselves, this is our territory, that is, we are on our territory, that is, they can use weapons of mass destruction any missile with a flight range of more than 300 km should also be included. that is, there are people from the contact that at first everything is bad, then everything

is fine . of the soviet union when i didn't understand all these tasks of theirs. well, let's look at the situation in general, it's very interesting, but i want to say that i spoke with the military and heard the opinion of our experts . then give our land to the armed forces, absolutely no red lines of russian politics are of interest after kakhovsky, kakhovsky hpp and the dam that the russians blew up in the air. they started

pumping on their propaganda on tv channels, the possibility of doing something similar with other hydroelectric power plants in ukraine, they talked about the kyiv hpp in particular, how vulnerable these objects of civil infrastructure can be, they mean the cascade hydroelectric power plant on the dnieper , well, it is clear that they have been holding it for more than a year under the control of the zaporizhzhia npp so that it can actually be qualified as a terrorist act nuclear terrorism and they are blackmailing your world or how likely is it that the russians can turn on the regime of terror at a time when they understand that they will lose. well, as for the cascade, it's a completely different situation , they can't do anything in order to commit a terrorist act like the kakhovka kakhovka

aggression . eh, which will be affected by the body itself, being somewhere at the level, well, below the water level in the engine room, and only then there is a possibility of undermining and destroying the dam, the dam , or the sludge, and this, uh, can lead to something extraordinary there, all the rest of the external influence on the dam is of no use, they were calculated in soviet times to be able to withstand a nuclear strike, tactical weapons, that's why all those tales are that we will blow up a er cyst there or some other er dam, these are all

fables, it's another matter that they have er tactics which is called dry land and they are actively using it to flood small towns located on these or other small reservoirs, they actually blow up all the hydro structures they find in order to prevent the advance of our troops, this is the lesser evil, but unfortunately they they also use and taking into account this scorched earth tactic, which they will still have as a legacy from the soviet union, they really actually mined the meter and part of the halls of the zaporizhzhia nuclear plant, it is clear that they cannot harm the reactor itself, it is also designed for a direct hit eh missiles eh including with a nuclear

warhead but at the same time some extraordinary events maybe even with a leak of radios into space they can there in particular eh i don’t know exploded for example a storage of nuclear fuel from the waste of nuclear production a good situation with the crimean titan, if the information that they mined the entire enterprise is confirmed, this is very serious , because actually, everything is much more serious there, in fact , a city can be destroyed along with people, and a cloud that can observe heights up to 40 km is unknown. where will it be blown by the wind, either towards turkey or running in russia, god knows , no one will control this process for us. well, this is the issue

of titanium mining, as far as i remember, it was on the eve of the great invasion because information appeared that the russians they can use er, it is possible to attack this titan, and they talked about the fact that er , they let the personnel of this plant go for a certain period in order not to create a precedent and then accuse ukraine of this , that is, according to you, they can blow it up in the air the titans are just going to stage another ecological catastrophe, which will obviously affect not only ukraine, but also eastern europe, the countries that are part of the north atlantic alliance . it is built in this way. most likely, they will

not go to europe, or towards russia, or away from turkey will either go towards ukraine, that is, if it goes towards ukraine, even in the north, well, in the north of ukraine or in the west of ukraine, i think that it may not reach russia before that, before the west. extremely dangerous for ukraine and, first of all, for the population of crimea . i just understand that in russia now, er, such a doctrine has been adopted, if we lose something, it is better to let it go to nobody. on our feet and we let's do everything to make things worse and harder for them, that is, russia is fully implementing the tactic when they destroy, well, they actually destroy everything that is in ukraine and in order to make it impossible

to live on the territory of our state, and i understand what this has to do with it this is putin's statement before the military commissions that we will create a sanitary zone that would allow, as he said, to create a distance between ukraine and russia that would not allow the ukrainians to reach our territory. this means shelling what is happening in the east. now we we see the complete destruction of cities in the donetsk luhansk region, the complete destruction of villages located in the east of ukraine , they want to create, as i understand it, a multi-kilometer gray zone that will be between ukraine and russia. we understand it differently. nobody is going to make their concessions and a sanitary zone can

be created on both sides of the borders. if they think that they only have artillery data, then they are deeply mistaken. the same zone can to be created on the territory of the belgorod, nu-brian, belgorod, voroniv, kursk regions, this is the first thing, and the second is that they are going to destroy everything during the retreat and we. we forget about such an organization as gazprom . there is already information in crimea that they are preparing for evacuation employees of gazprom and their families. and for a moment you need to understand the ramifications of pipelines, gas pipelines, and er, rigs that extract gas on the shelf, they can simply blow them up, because of how it can

end for the ecology of the black sea in the region, no one even remotely knows about it. i would like to go back to lukashenka, please, and ask you about the information that was broadcast on our tv channel, because valery sakharchyk, who is a member of the technonsky cabinet, said that the self-proclaimed president of belarus, oleksandr lukashenko, was ready in december 22nd of the year to give the order to start the invasion of ukraine , but the soldiers serving in the belarusian army refused to go to ukraine and the kgb bodies , almost in full, as mr. sakhatchyk said , spent almost a week blackmailing the troops they intimidated, talked to the military, it didn't help, they reported to the top leadership that the belarusian army is not ready to conduct hostilities in ukraine, that's why the order was not given . do you have such information, general, because i know you have contacts in belarus, you know the situation that is developing in the army of the republic of belarus. i have information that

such a situation occurred, but there was no er, i have no confirmation that they were supposed to come to the border in that period, they were supposed to be ready to cross the border, the dates were not determined, we simply had to have willingness and to say yes, i am ready to fight with ukraine and the vast majority, and they conducted there first conducted such a conditional anonymous anonymous survey among officers and they were simply horrified because the vast majority of officers said that they were not ready to fight with ukraine, and after that, this began conditional intimidation , a purge, and the vast majority of officers simply closed in on themselves, that is, they did not answer questions , said that they did not understand what you ordered, all of them will be carried out, but against this background, it became

it is clear that when crossing the border, the belarusian army may start surrendering not as individuals, but as whole units , or simply turn their weapons against the regime, that's why a decision was made to change the system now, well, after that, the adjustment of personnel from one part to the second part was made i don’t know about the dilution of a certain category of officers by representatives of law enforcement agencies. they were directed in the army. i don’t know how much satisfaction it is. the same situation is when army officers were transferred to law enforcement function in order to cover them up in certain cases that are not very ethical stages, and the rest are some kind of beating there or pressure on the suspect, and in this way they actually want to connect the law enforcement agencies of these uh-uh were covered up in those repressions

with the generals voiced three versions of the development of the war according to the west, according to the publications of the economist. therefore, the first version is that ukraine makes a major breakthrough, returns a significant part of the territory in the east, develops, breaks the supply lines to the crimea, the second, smaller losses russia, but also the prospect of further defeats and the third is a more gloomy result, a stalemate situation that will allow russia to get most of what it captured , it will undermine the west's confidence in ukraine and encourage putin, which of these three scenarios voiced by western journalists are you inclined to? it's hard to say, i'm still shooting for the second one, but i'm still shooting that it won't be that simple. there will be victories, but they won't be as decisive as what we're watching there, and that

we'll have to prepare for an exhausting the war, but we will win, that's true, but we will probably know everything only at the end, in october, probably like this, that is, with something, in october, i would say even november , because these few months are more or less normal the weather is normal and the possibilities of the attack are real and they have to show themselves. after that , make some plans. maybe then we will see the light at the end of the tunnel. for now, this illumination is one more small forecast from the former french president francois hollande, he says about the fact that the results of the conflict in ukraine will depend on the presidential elections of the united states of america in the 24th year, if trump is elected, he says uh and he will say , we stop this at this point, the russians can keep everything they have, the war costs a lot

dearly, he said in an interview with the national times, according to you, how much will the results of the us elections affect the outcome of the russian-ukrainian war ? well, i don't know, i spoke with trumpists on a conditional basis . by the way, there are many of them, including the ukrainian diaspora i was surprised because of this, they are convinced that trump's rhetoric will change after the election and all the predictions that he will surrender ukraine will not come true. after all, it is quite a powerful country, and even despite the wishes of one or another president, there is a certain scenario when

there are certain fuses in their political structure , and not always. he already signed, ratified, and it will be very difficult to stop the transfer of the polish visa to the equipment to ukraine. thank you, mr. generals, for the conversation. this was the major general of the sbu in the reserve of the former deputy head of the security service of ukraine viktor yagun, we are working live, friends , and for those who are now watch us live on youtube, please like this video, subscribe to our channel, and read our news on the espresso.tv website, we work for you 24 hours a day, seven days a week , the most up-to-date information is available on our website you can become a sponsor of our youtube channel by word of mouth, join our resources, we will thank you for this, i will say goodbye to you until

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