[000:00:00;00] well, the reality from which, unfortunately, we will not get anywhere geography cannot be canceled and actually speaking, given its brand, the wave that was tapped in the past in the electric e-e, he predicts the future and talks about you look in which there are three superpowers and one of them is russia is probably at the strategic level. the united states also does not consider russia's existence . it is obvious to us that the countries that are members of the northern tropical alliance will not send their military personnel to ukraine to participate in the war on on the side of ukraine well, simply because of the basic principle, which i want to say something about what they can help, exactly what they help now by improving the condition and quality of our weapons and various types of troops, well, at a different technological level and in the amount that is sufficient for any aggressor whether today it is the russian federation or in a few years it will be belarus or possibly another

country, before committing certain aggressive actions towards ukraine, it calculated the negative consequences for itself and any aggression towards ukraine is a stretcher so critically inflicted so critical damage to the economy of the military and military forces of the country that will want to carry out some kind of expansion on us, a remote formula of aggressive actions . did they refuse to do this ? actually, the office of the president, or last year, in my opinion, for participating in stepan krasnusky developed well, let's say a road map of what they see as guarantees for ukraine, and they just envisioned with these a complex of the obligations of the countries' obligations, again, which will pass through the parliament of these countries will become mandatory for them at the level of internal implementation, this is the implementation of the system as flower exercises, this is also the provision of access to ecological developments and the joint production of certain types of non-armament of ukraine at an even

higher level, only at a higher quality level than it is today, and we see with you is that, in fact , the separate statements that appear now in the information field indicate that all guarantees are gradually being imposed. e-e leave e air systems like petra, what is this intangible embodiment of the guarantee of ukraine’s security in the airspace, the embodiment when the anglican declared that the strategic and united states will build capable high-tech air force systems in ukraine, well, on the basis of e-e attack aircraft and bombers which in armaments of the countries of the north atlantic. this is one of the guarantees that ukraine needs today, so everything we can get. well, when i especially, of course , these theses are the road map of nato integration, well

, the road map is wonderful, in principle it already we have heard here for several years and it sounds roughly like this: the doors of nato are open, they are not closed to anyone who seeks this integration, the only point is that the desire for integration is such that it exists in ukraine , it collides with the pragmatic interests and national security interests of countries that are already members of nato and it doesn't matter if 10 countries are against this chauvinism, and 20 verbal ones are enough for one who speaks out against it, and then there is no integration. we are not talking about what the perspectives of russia are for nato will cease to be a strategic rival or threat, then in the strategic perspective our members will sing and this road map will be reduced to rhetorical statements. well, he wrote that we will of course leave the door for ukraine after the end of the war. at the moment, this is when the war ends. yes, in the political sense , it should end. yes, yes. yes, they submitted

the former mc to ramosan's rope. can i quote him, or rather quote his words? he said that some nato countries may agree to send their troops into ukraine, and according to him, this may happen within the framework of the security guarantees of those we are talking about for ukraine before its accession to the alliance, until the moment when ukraine joins the north atlantic community, are you considering such an option, is it possible, are there any prerequisites for it, and will there really be such countries there together? i apologize only to add what he said in particular about the baltic countries. yes, estonia has already said that, to be honest, they were shocked by such a statement and were not going to . well, even in their minds there were no such ideas about what to introduce from their military . however, probably someone else of ours there directly there are the most partners such as there i do not know the poles united kingdom it

just looks like a fantasy the most fantasy - once personally in the concept of a certain information operation they implement including our defense forces yes uh it is possible for them just to themselves with an objective opinion a person who previously was from the church of the north atlantic alliance, it is not known whether the judges and individual representatives of the ukrainian accountants who these statements were in previous consultations are connected with the fact that certain countries and poland, whether it is permissible to lithuania, estonia are ready for their to send citizens to conduct specific military operations as part of the military formations of the defense forces of ukraine, since we do not have such information, this is simply a subjective opinion and

we will call it even higher education. as one of stasyk sounds from one of the people commenting on the events in the photo of ukraine uhu good thank you, we heard you speak a lot about the prospects for ukraine in the guarantee of safe joint kingdom ot bandage voice for example, he stated that some countries, at the request of ukraine, can directly bilaterally provide certain guarantees there. as far as i understand correctly, we are talking only about military support there, for example, with weapons, and we are not talking about military support by specific soldiers there. however, if we are talking about only exclusively about military support with equipment so how, for example , will security guarantees differ from the situation we have now we will now receive this

military support that is, what are these guarantees security will be there for us, i don't know what they will give us more peace of mind, for example, than the situation we have now, first of all, the guarantee applies to the period, to the period that is not covered exclusively by hostilities. which is exactly what is going on. we will not be able to buy the latest weapons systems with our own funds for a long period of time during the war. it is not talking about tanks, planes or individual air defense systems, not to mention that they should be serviced. plus, it is important for us. the formation of a material and technical base in order to have the opportunity in the modern case, well, at least to serve plus the availability of financial resources in order to maintain the power of the armed forces in the number of 4% - this is 100,000 personnel, as a result , we are talking about guarantees that extend

over a period of at least 5-10 years and these guarantees these guarantees they are in the plane of not only the possibility of receiving quality humanitarian aid for the submission of voluntary aid from countries limiting the limit appropriate equipment, but also the ability of ukraine to place orders for the production of new ones and pay for them independently over time. israel is allowed to receive military aid through certain military guarantees from the united states. - even in the last century, he was signed for five years and the cost was 30 mm, but at the same time he has the opportunity to directly place orders for american enterprises bypassing even, well, that is, the lack

of time , according to profile exports, so how does it differ from us? well, what is available today, we post depends on what is available. its dimensions and to provide for the needs that we consider to be strategically necessary for the introduction, we talked with you a year ago even more and called on the countries that are members of the ato to close the sky , let's close the sky, and so on. well, in the end, only in a year and a half years actually possible before the start of the war we have the opportunity to count on receiving the compliance of the fourth generation and therefore have not received them yet and it was a difficult political decision related to the math or add and so on and so on and so on when we talk about the guarantee of these guarantees, they are structured and foresee which country it is, which element of the defense system of ukraine, and the armed forces is responsible for part of it strengthened with such a nomenclature , that is, if we are talking about the number of tanks

, then well, i model in a period of 5 years the ukrainian uh, the arsenal of armored vehicles there should therefore be at least 1000 units, well, again, modeling it does not mean that these are specific numbers from them let's sum up well, i sort of sum it up, this one we understand that the guarantees are safe, at least the issue of the supply of weapons on a regular basis, even after the end of the active phase of hostilities. and this could be the an option that will provide us with security, even though the path to nato will be at least long, i understood it correctly, at least it is something that we can use for the sake of the security of the proprietary citizens of our own country, and the topic of what we are ready to demand from them more than to get a negative answer is access to -m thank you, thank you for joining

. andrii vigrynskyi , a lawyer , an analyst, joined our broadcast and helped us understand an important topic the day before. informational and psychological operations and those that the enemy managed and continues to catch in order to boil us down and sow despair, and the offensive actions of the ukrainian army force the russians to strengthen their own informational and psychological operations, as told by the strategic communications department of the armed forces of ukraine in russian telegram channels and social networks plan to increase the dissemination of inaccurate information about the military operations of the armed forces of ukraine will disseminate inaccurate information about its counteroffensive the directions and losses of the ukrainian army in order to mislead people, the russians have already prepared old photos and photos showing the destroyed equipment of the dead and captured and other fake materials andriy shapovalov

, acting head of the counter -disinformation center at the national security and defense council of ukraine with us mr. andriy congratulations we welcome you, do you hear me, and the first question is what the russians are doing now, what the enemy is doing in the conditions of the fact that ukraine is preparing and some military personnel are on our airwaves searches say that the counter-offensive

has already begun , the russians are constantly investigating the issue of the failure of the counter-attack. the whole axis of the ukrainian regime, that is, at the highest level , i saw how they were afraid of the 90-type russians and did not understand what they should expect. uh which, among other things, had the purpose of postponing er, including our atm operation, er, regarding er, the question of whether it has started or not, er, i think it is a very good advertisement , and about the fact that the announcement will not be er, maximum

speed we mentioned that they prepared photos, they prepared some videos, they will obviously be fake, what should we expect from them, because we have already seen when and where it turned out not to be a tank, but a combine harvester , in fact, it was allegedly shot down by a ukrainian, it was allegedly them that in the end it turned out that the combine and what they will use, what everyone is going to do videos and fake a-a audio of such coverage of anything that can shake ukraine from the middle of this instrument which is in their hands to flourish eh relatives of loved ones eh those who are on the front those who lost their loved ones or

they fell into desist i.e. norms starting with a group for the russians, they gather the staff of the living room of such sensitive groups and then act on them precisely in order to shake the hand of the russians inside ukraine, they also usually disperse information and disinformation for science information to informational noise that interferes perceptive and objective news creates anxiety among ukrainians. international step has been waiting for a long time, and we and our partners have been waiting for a long time, but we maintain a regime of verified, inconsistent information can harm the armed forces of ukraine and everyone

. oleksandr, therefore, today refrain from comments, rely only on official education and do not trust e -e of that sectional information changes the fund, most likely , they will definitely add to that in russia there was a little bit of practical advice. so we understand that now the ukrainians are watching everything directly i want to get some information about what is happening at the front. however, precisely in order not to fall into the trap of enemy information operations. that is what it is worth remembering, because everyone understands that way . read official mass media, official sources of information, this is without. well, there is absolutely no doubt here, however, there may still be some advice, because well, just sit , you know, well, we understand sitting and waiting for a message from the ministry of defense. this

would be extremely correct. however, in the age the internet of social networks, what is the first thing you should pay attention to if , in principle, you see any messages related to a counteroffensive, in order not to fall into an information trap, i am paraphrasing, probably understand and do not forget at what cost ukraine is happening today, therefore, everyone must today, defend the country properly, not with actions and not waiting for someone to do it for you , that's the only way we will win, and this also applies to the perception of information. according to the contract, the russians are interrogating with all their might, this is a fake about forced mobilization, this is a fake about the distribution of troops

, this is a fake about some of our internal problems, religious , language, cultural photos, russian disinformation, it is not, it is not, it should not enter the name with any statements about internal division and the internal conflict within ukraine. this is the most painful place today and the russians will try to spread a huge amount of misinformation. these markers can be called again in the feedlots, and at the same time , what should we, as journalists, pay attention to? well, in black and white there is a beacon about that, the beacon is about the fact that it is real and pso it is definitely a fake i know that you will offer me to subscribe to

the telegram channel of the center for combating disinformation , i have already done it, i follow all your news, but these beacons for our viewers , please voice them more i also recommend subscribing to the facebook page, the youtube page, the instagram page, find kto and uh , the only thing we can advise, and this is more reliable, is information hygiene , consume information carefully, consume information in moderation, do not oversaturate yourself with a huge number of telegram channels, uh, because most likely a-a well, of course, the competences are there. of course there is a person who uses e-e in his information space. well , it is hardly enough to accurately determine for himself that this is exactly an egg and in search of a woman, there is no

such toolkit today to do so quickly and competently sum up quickly er 900 er russians today for well, they are well versed in the technology of creating information and a-a problem of getting into informational thoughts and if this is some kind of separate operation we are talking about hybrid huge operations a little in more detail, we understand that this is not only done by propagandists, but also by the o language in other directions, if you see that these are all goals , if we see something that goes

beyond the scope. 300 sites that are very similar to the usual sites of well-known information agencies, but they differ by one letter and there they duplicate almost everything that is on these sites of x types, which one is there andrei, you are for you , you just got ahead of the question oleksiy, he wanted to ask you about these multilayers and pso. thank you for what you explained. if you allow oleksiy, the question is from me, then taking into account the tragedy that happened and the terrorist attack committed by the russians at the kokovsky kakhovsky hpp and what they continue to talk about this tragedy and committed with their hands, what are they here, what are they here and pso fakes that they pour into the ears and eyes of the audience not only in russian, but probably often

in ukrainian, because many people go and look at, in particular, the same russian telegram channels and what are they, what are they resorting to, what kind of dirt and what lies are they telling about er , about this very tragedy in the kherson region, absolutely in everything er, maxim er, to ukraine, because well, what we see is unlikely. they expected exactly such consequences that is, i wanted to contact them, but at the executive level, something went wrong . and today we have to talk about the disaster a-a in the south of ukraine, they are spreading

the information er-er pustovinus is a dangerous act that should be compared to a nuclear one and cannot be given to the russians er- is to create informational noise from their favorite story not all so unambiguously they should have loved brought to justice for what you they did on our side i and all these one and a half years of full-scale invasion about him attitude from we have to talk about the lights of us from this crime uh-uh they say uh it's better for the russians here, which they tried hard to do two years ago in buch, and we understand that, in fact, all of them will simply be destroyed and strangled

. andriy, she has literally a minute . the important thing is that we understand that psychological operations and informational operations are also aimed not only at ukrainians, but also at our allies abroad, in particular in europe , the united states, you can name the main theses that they are trying to promote, and that is not propaganda, but rather what does he do with information operations ? maybe even the special services, thank you, please clarify in which question exactly what are the main theses, what are the main psychological or information operations carried out by the russian special services to influence our western allies in supporting ukraine . i mean, yes, i understood who the main directions are that do not change, this is a huge operation called a black hole, and the center wrote about it

in great detail, that ukraine is a black hole and zelensky is a black hole, so money. the second huge special operation is an investigation of an internal conflict eh what are we in international directions eh in time so what else eh embezzlement never partners of the military well well this is possible in principle experts who play along with the russians and, in principle, the word is broadcast clearly. thank you, mr. andriy, for helping us understand such a complex topic. friends, we trust only official sources of information. we check everything, especially

what concerns hostilities . of national security and defense of ukraine joined our broadcast, thank you for the agreement, if we fight, our children will protect their own, who am i, a marine, why, what kind of fire

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