[000:00:00;00] i asked if russia in particular is pushing for more such quick steps in order to achieve a greater imbalance around the world around nuclear weapons, because once again the russians are coming back there for kargan's publication literally a couple of days about what is there , the weapon of god. we are there. we have to show the americans that we really have red lines there, we should not frighten them. and aren't these parallel processes that, in particular, in the russian federation and you before? they cannot be coordinated. well, i don't know about the coordination of karaganov's article, of course and of what is happening in iran. and it seems to me that this is just a name, some budgetary processes that are taking place, but for sure, i understand that it is not profitable for the americans, he is on the verge of spending resources on two fronts, and that is why iran is taking advantage of this, that is, he wants to achieve

certain concessions for himself. threatening the possibility of the start of a full-scale war in the middle east, eh, iran is increasingly clearly demonstrating such new technological developments , it seems there a week ago, because they were showing a new ballistic missile there, which is better than dagger as they explained and i also have a question, given your knowledge of these demonstration steps. these are more likely propaganda actions on the part of the iranian leadership, or has iran really made such certain technological and industrial progress during this time in the creation of new types of weapons or in copying samples that there they partially got to it from other countries and what do you think is happening, well, it is impossible not to say that the iranians were still able to achieve serious er serious

successes in the development of missile weapons er the question is, how effective will this weapon be? we have already seen about daggers and the situation with daggers, who said that they are not taken, they are not taken, that is, the situation here is also and generally drags. they do not stand still, they also create new weapons that will intercept, including and similar missiles. so all this will be, uh, we will be able to assess the quality of these weapons only during their actual use, and therefore, but yes. they are masters of this, but they are also masters of pr and lies and everything else, that is, in this sense, they are like he said that war is a way of deception and everything else. and when we talk about the project of the russian federation in the morning regarding the creation of a new enterprise on the territory of tatarstan , which will manufacture these modernized shaheds, i do not know what they will be called from the american side

there is a colossal capacity of 6,000 drones per year , that is, 400 of these drones per month, this information that will spread through american development in e-e in american publications, should it be an impetus for strengthening sanctions is it supposed to be pressure on the authorities and the wound, so that once again teresa evaluates her future? well, and keeps within certain er frameworks , what do you think about this, you know , i have great doubts that they soberly evaluate their future, that is, completely maybe you understand at some point when you become a part of some other alliance. that is, you are strongly attached to russia, then you get the feeling that the defeat of russia means the defeat of all; remember recently, e. koshinyan , the prime minister of armenia, after returning from moscow, talked about the fact that he can't

imagine how russia will lose, because then armenia will die, that is, something similar is obviously happening to the iranians, that is, at least to a part of their elite that has seriously tied themselves to the russians, they evaluate this war already through the prism of their own security and the dangers that will be saved for them so, this is such a psychological moment in relation to, let's say, the factory . well, they are, if this is not the first drone factory , mr. serhiyevich, you better know how many drones , drone factories have been built in russia , including with the help of other middle eastern countries yes, that is, here, well, yes, this is a danger for us, but the situation here is such that it will be in the 24th year, but this is another question. of course, if additional sanctions are introduced and the possibility of supplying systems for these

drones is limited, then it is obvious that they the plant will not reach industrial capacity, but in the end, well, anything can happen to this plant. yes, it can explode in the end , something else may not happen, well, that is, i want to say that this is a threat, it exists, it is a real cooperation between iran and russia in in this direction, a rather powerful iranian does not collect this to stop because, as i said, they started for some reason, some of them, why do they see this as an existential threat, that 's why something needs to be done about it, and obviously not only ukraine and the americans and europeans , but everyone else, that is, this is the question. more on the first e-e, on the first column, i will say this is the agenda and p. igor, i have a question

about the fact that iran also receives from russia important components to strengthen its defense capabilities, in particular, these e-e 135 fighters, and the question arises whether israel will calmly look at the strengthening of the aviation components there, er, missile nuclear, will he still act more decisively? when you feel that a certain number of steps are already going beyond the limits a-ah, well, obviously israel's rhetoric is quite like this m-m, let's say serious eh- eh, they are ready to use weapons as they claim, eh, they will not look back at the americans if there is no threat. at the same time, i do not really imagine how it can happen to strike iran with the direct involvement

of the americans, the british and others, that is, in in any case, this is more like, well, emotional and informational preparation for a possible war since the morning, and in parallel with these wounds, of course, it strikes warehouses and the same er-er workshops for the production of the same drones in syria er. that is, it er-er targets that are within the reach of israeli air defense and israeli aircraft. but let's talk about the fact that now there is already some clear and understandable strategy, what will happen in the event that there is a conflict with so cold, yes, god. well, you will say half-cold, and it will go completely hot

so far, i think that there are no such notions , obviously, there are certain, the possibility of joint strikes on enemy targets, i am still here, let's not forget that the situation in syria may become more complicated, because it is , after all, in the north-east, and syria, which is the counter where the american military is located , they may also be attacked from of shiite groups, and which are, in fact, proxies are iranian and this can also lead to escalation. that is, there are several directions

that can lead to the emergence of a heated conflict, e.p. research, and then to another topic, which is also related to iranian prospects, positive or negative, or now rather negative, we are joined by oleksandr los, former head of the antonov concern, doctor of technical sciences, now captain of the armed forces of ukraine, which takes care of the future directions of the development of the armed forces, oleksandr, i congratulate you serhiyevich i congratulate you, i wish you health and glory to ukraine , glory to the heroes, but i would like to ask you about iran, but because of another, from a different point of view , in fact, iran is under sanctions, but it also creates means impressions and unmanned complexes, what conclusions should we draw from this, that sanctions do not work and that the political will of individual leaders, as we see , can be stronger than the actual external

restrictions, we repeat with you once what is military-technical cooperation? it's really political will, it's all about politics and sanctions, which are always talked about, it's the sanctions of the united states of america first of all, then the sanctions of the european union, but let's say what high-precision weapons are made of, it 's first of all microelectronics, optoelectronics, composite materials, yes as for microelectronics , the word micro comes from the fact that any microcircuit can be hidden in a pocket and, in principle, it is difficult to imagine how it can be blocked international traffic, let's say, well, i'm sorry for such a comparison, but just like trikes, drug trafficking is international, so is the traffic of electronic components of microcircuits. unfortunately, it is physically impossible to block it. that's why they really say that the sanctions of the united states are working. so this means that the american company and

the effeminates with them do not supply in collective, let's call it, regimes or terrorist regimes do not supply microeconomic components, but unfortunately, this does not mean that by means of the development of intelligence of those countries about which it is early it is impossible to question north korea by the russian federation. unfortunately, this traffic is not being covered up, and what you and i said about last year, when some commentators said that russia was running out of cruise missile components, you and i question this, unfortunately, this is the last one. these are our extreme events, i'm sorry, they emphasize that such traffic unfortunately, it still exists and i said that in ukraine there was enough cooperation with iran, we remember that at one time ukraine cooperated on the iran 140 e-project

actually, which consisted in the fact that on the territory of iran, you and fahanni were gathering a civilian plane iran 140, which was actually a copy of the ukrainian plane an-140, and just a few days ago, iranian publications showed that a seemingly purely iranian plane was rising in the air. a ramp plane, a military transport plane , which actually will now perform military functions, and the question arises whether this is an echo of ukrainian-iranian cooperation 20 years later, or whether it is the enlightenment of iranian engineers who decided after all on the basis of work with ukraine to make its own military transport plane, what is happening like many of the military, i ask no one to use the word expert to me, i am not an expert, i am a scientist , necessarily an employee, that's how i always say that one should treat the enemies. with respect, er,

iranian engineers they are quite professional , it is enough to look at the samples of missile weapons that they manufacture. but in this particular case , mr. serhiyevich of vermyshenov fully supports you. this is really an echo of the so-called ukrainian -iranian cooperation, which is such people like me, ukrainian moderate statesmen always caused at least spanish shame. i came to dp anton when it was already like a contract and it was happening and i know very well how it happened, and the documentation for the frame version of the plane was already in the official 18 years that i worked anton, it was being developed well, i i recognize the beautiful plane m 140 t which is now on your screen in the air, how did it happen here , it is not for me to judge, i do not know, i will not comment on this

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the world history, problems, analysis and personalities, we are waiting for john gerbs, the former ambassador to of the united states in ukraine thank you for the transformation, if you have questions, you will receive answers , so the question is how to deal with portnikov september, that friday at 21:15 for espresso, we will continue our conversation, my guest is oleksandr los, a doctor of technical sciences today captain of the armed forces, mr. oleksandr, i would like to continue our iranian topic, always on the fact that you are now related to those samples of weapons that our military is analyzing, from which the enemy is using against us, including these martyrs, can we talk about what this year e.e. shahids began to improve and they became more dangerous. if so , in which direction is the improvement of this enemy's equipment taking place, first of all, i want to remind

to emphasize the fact that according to the materials of your publication it was already said that shehet was still 131st that the 136th, or as the russians claim the garan, is a very modern , perfect, even perfected type of weapon. - from a technological point of view - this is a serious mass-produced product, in which direction it is perfected, they have technical means of combat use, they are equipped with elements of interaction with each other, that is, they

can fly in combat formations, they have protected interference-resistant satellite communication for satellite navigation, its plan is generally made of the most modern composite materials, the engine is a copy and very carefully executed, i will not name the copy of the engine of which country. that is, we are dealing with an unpleasant business with high-tech and quite high-precision weapons when we talk about system ways to counter this threat, you and i talked about this topic about six months ago. is it possible to say that some progress is currently being made with regard to the creation of countermeasures or on the basis of national developments or in cooperation with foreign partners, which of these ways in your opinion are the most optimal , which can give the most expected quick result, repeating the same thing all the time that, unfortunately, in ukraine

there is no structural construction materials of aviation and there is also no own production microelectronic components, therefore , the current path is exclusively the interaction of cooperation with leading foreign partners , and our designs should be as simple as possible from the point of view of the neck production of a planar well microelectronics it must be involved this is my recipe and even i will tell you what i saw or australian products from sorry, a planar made of cardboard but this is exactly the ingenious way of production for example er from the same aviation plywood if who would not laugh or even from some plastics like those from which plastics from which are produced excuse me soda bottles it would be a great way for us to quickly master mass production er

let's say weapons to return cotton to the original territory and er our conversation our i started the program by mentioning about rammstein, about plans to replace our air force with f16 fighters, about the training of our e-military, but in parallel with this, there are other thematic messages that also concern the strengthening of our aviation, first of all, the minister e-e of defense mentions other countries, and the ambassador of ukraine in australia says that he provides a request to the ministry of defense of this country to assess the real condition of the f18 aircraft that we were in to equip the army of australia, the australian army of petrans, is it possible talk about what is really happening what you said earlier that in addition to the f-16 ukraine needs other more powerful aircraft that can really create a complex

airspace protection system what do you think about the initiatives regarding australia thank you for mentioning that indeed, we already talked about this openly in public at the beginning of the large-scale invasion just before the f18 f 15 planes and so i repeat once again for the audience that uh, the real line of fighters uh, at its core should be heavy tactical fighters like the 15 and well a before we had it 127 because it's like a heavy fighter it has the advantage that it can for- at the same combat radius but lift er or 1.5 times more weapons or have or have more combat radius actually the f18 aircraft from the beginning uh, on the sidelines, i talked about him knowing that australia

has them, they are available, and such goals have been talked about for a long time, and let me remind you that even with the beginning of the anti-terrorist operation , back in 2014, canada already announced that was ready, well, at that time it was about i understand the sale, after all, not the supply today, i am providing supplies somewhere, and when there were even disputes last year, there would be, uh, how many different and uh, representatives of the authorities of the ministry of defense approached me, and i reminded them about this plane, and then she said , after all, the 16th is more it is available, has more spare parts, but they will compare, they tried to accept the tactical and technical characteristics , but here you show. now it is just taking off from the aircraft carrier, so i reminded them that this aircraft is almost no worse than the r16 in terms of performance, but its airframe

is much stronger and its structure is much stronger due to the fact that it is fuel. by the way, it also has weapons. i will remind you what a fighter is. it is a platform that must carry weapons, so the f16, f15 and f18 fighters are in the australian version, these are universal fighters that can work both in the air for the conquest and support of politics and on the ground, that is, equipping the air with weapons, the ground, yes, uh, again, those like 18 are available in australia, they are brought to the class of work that is just universal , and on the condition of their restoration, then since i i understand that the planes are also quite old, you can't say old, you have to say just old, they require maintenance and restoration but are technically not suitable , they are prepared to work with any modern available american types of weapons, we remember the entire line of planes

there f 16 f15 f18 actually these are projects of the boeing company and superimpose this on the trend that is currently happening in ukraine, where the german company rain metal is opening a joint venture in ukraine, 51% of which is owned by a german company, which is going to create a repair plant there and production of new armored vehicles, then a concert by a system comes to ukraine, which installs the entire line of military equipment there, including fish systems, components for the f-35, and the question arises whether now is the time to expand such defense-industrial cooperation with such a giant as boeing considering that one way or another in the aviation segment we are just coming to those samples that we mentioned earlier i will add to your information for the audience that 16

is today's bow and martin is the former genor denis and indeed f15 and yes f18 is airplanes are now corporations. well, actually, i will say that it is already without pathos, as they say, that i was forced to leave dp antonov precisely because, as it is now noted in some documents, an american spy contributed to the opening of assembly production of airplanes in ukraine first, because he and seven it was a training combat aircraft or a light fighter. well, in fact , it did not happen in the subsequent f15 aircraft, but i will remind you that the state department of the united states of america and the boeing corporation responded back in 2019 to our request and which i personally

took care of it, they turned away literally in six months, boeing received an initial export license in order to supply the same kits to ukraine for assembly, that is why i believe that it was extremely appropriate for the current political establishment to continue the already tormented thinking of colleagues with the boeing corporation regarding aircraft 18 and 15, it is definitely necessary to talk and plan the assembly of a light fighter of the seven or whatever it will be called already in usrfoss and it is also necessary to cooperate with the corporation walking morting north program and other leading companies, well, directly. now we are talking about the united states of america. i hmm, i look with joy at the fact that the cooperation with basisistems is already starting - this is a british american cabotage, well, unearthly armored vehicles ryan maple, but i still congratulate you. i will remind you that the creation of joint enterprises, this is not

about the organizational form, but cooperation between existing enterprises and specialists of the ukrainian defense-industrial complex and leading western corporations so that it there was no competent gate, what we organized here in ukraine is a small square, we forget about our own, as taras hryhorovych shevchenko said to others, learn from your own, but do not shy away from your own , you must support and develop yours. no sovereignty, this means that you are also engaged in your own, mr. oleksandr . thank you very much for these important accents and important comments, and i would like to remind our viewers that oleksandr los, a doctor of technical sciences, currently a captain of the armed forces, was on the klaus press broadcast. takes care of the prospective directions of the development of the armed forces of ukraine. so we can talk about the fact that today iran and the alliance with the russian federation of this country really pose a threat to our security. the question is that

we find a worthy answer to these challenges. modern models that will protect our country and our soldiers on the battlefield, and then the broadcast of the espresso channel will continue the news and the presenter iryna koval will tell you all the details which is really happening now in the world and in ukraine thank you serhii just in a moment about the most important thing so please wait in ukraine 14:00 news time on the espresso tv channel in the studio iryna koval welcomes all viewers the attack repelled all 12 missiles launched by russia ukrainian defenders shot them down six daggers and how many calibers predicts the direction of the attack was aimed at kyiv region also