[000:00:00;00] and there is such a suspicion that he will play into the hands of only certain market players and he will not play into the hands of other players in the market at all here if in one word there is a certain corruption component . by what is happening in ukraine and by law as well because the money is given to us now from there well, that's how it happened, that's how it happened, that's why it's a plus. thank you for knowing what i'm with you until sunday, and then veteri ed espresso will be serhiy rudenko and the perdict program , let's watch it. i don't hear good evening. we are from ukraine

glory to ukraine is a verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko. i congratulate everyone, today is an unusual day in ukraine, because the leaders of seven african countries came to kyiv today with a peace plan. the leaders of the south african republic of egypt , senegal, zambia, and the republic of congo proposed and came with a plan. the details of this plan are not yet known, but as the leaders of african countries declare, the goal of this plan is to establish peace after russia's invasion of ukraine at a time when african leaders have already came to the ukrainian capital, russia fired at ukraine and in particular kyiv, six calibers, six daggers and two reconnaissance drones were shot down on the approach to

kyiv, the most interesting thing is that tomorrow the leaders of seven african countries are to meet with vladimir putin in st. petersburg, what will they say and what will they say to him after today's shelling is unknown, but some of the african leaders pretended today that they did not hear and did not know about the shelling during their visit to kyiv, instead, vladimir putin put on a whole show today at the st. petersburg economic forum, he talked a lot about what and how the russian federation should do. in the current conditions, he talked about how the russian economy is developing during the last year of the great war between russia and ukraine. well, of course, many messages. as his press secretary says, the sand was thrown aside of the west he said that they are not

going to reduce nuclear weapons and told them to fuck them, well, literally , a quote and said that all western weapons that come to ukraine will be destroyed by the russian invaders like gorillas and leopards, yes the f-16 planes will also burn, vladimir putin said. however, we will talk about this a little later with our guest, instead i will say that russia will continue to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine until russia has already lost 218,500 people in ukraine in the last day alone , the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 500 orks since the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 3,000 1,965 tanks 7,683 armored fighting vehicles 3,812 artillery systems

606 rocket salvo systems 364 air defense equipment 314 aircraft 301 helicopters 6,500-19 units of automotive equipment 18 ships boats 1 1999 cruise missiles - 3 357 drones 519 units of special equipment so the african peace for ukraine f-16 is already on the way to ukraine and putin, as he himself said, finally agreed about this and other things we we will talk during our program with our guest, politician, diplomat , ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine to the united states of america in 2015-2019

, valeriy chalyn p. glory to the heroes, let's start with the visit of the leaders of african countries, because today is quite a revealing day, russia usually has leaders flying in or arriving. world leaders are sure to fire at kyiv. were shelled just during this shelling , our colleague from radio svoboda was killed. we remember how joseph biden flew to kyiv and arrived, how an air alert was announced because of the bombers' ice on territory of belarus well, today also six calibers six daggers, well, in short, quite such a powerful, powerful salute was from the russian federation to the flight of doves of peace from africa dmytro kuleba

minister of foreign affairs of ukraine and said that it was a signal for the african delegation and putin wants more war, not peace, wrote the head of the ministry of foreign affairs, let me remind you that today he met the leaders of african countries, who, after the actual air alert sounded, and apparently they were in hiding, said that they did not notice anything. but first, let's listen all the same, kulebu putin is strengthening trust by launching the largest missile attack on kyiv in recent weeks, precisely during the visit of african leaders to our capital, russian missiles are a message to africa, russia wants more war, not peace, so let's go . the first thing that the leaders of african countries brought, because now no one

cannot understand what kind of peaceful defense plan this is for the air force of our air defense forces that they already work so professionally on their equipment and on the one provided . therefore, this is a clear signal that the equipment works in professional hands, it must come and then people will be saved people's lives that the strike happened er i will tell you yes, well, it is unlikely that they are already planning to suspend all these strikes because now they have specific goals er a little bit of a different order, but i do not rule out that they have not canceled here in order to show a traditional russian gesture towards peace that will actually have little effect on the leaders of africa, and they have not seen anything like that. of course, these are not missile strikes, but they live in a somewhat different

paradigm. this is a difficult continent and this is the continent on which the last war took place more than a decade, and besides, the terrorist groups that are located in these countries well, simply, if it were calmer in our country, then probably we should have proposed a peace plan for africa and not the other way around, so i think that what they call a peace plan and with those sources that were in the media and what they themselves said is not a realistic peace plan - it is a screen covering for completely different goals of their visit, this is a ticket to the kremlin or to st. petersburg for a meeting on their issues. and the fact that they all- after all , they arrived in transit through the cave hills. it's good at least they get information from the first tail, of course, they noticed everything, they understand everything perfectly, only they have goals, their other goals

are for the supply of russian fertilizers , eh, the discovery is that russia already really wants a plane about water, tagliatti, odesa, eh, then grain, of course, and for all this lifting of sanctions and this key lifting of sanctions with russia, i.e. this is what they were asked at meetings and during the tour of lavrov and putin, i.e. it is clear that they will talk about this first of all , therefore there is no realistic peace plan, uh, but at least communication it can give the opportunity to the ukrainian side, after all, to say in the future that we have brought you absolutely clear information and the trip in the buchea means that they got acquainted with this weapon in russian, which simply does not go astray and they saw it. by the way, there are

more of them he is not even interested in air defense systems and missiles, he is more interested in what they saw near the ministry of foreign affairs, all the excited russians, but the soviets, maybe it is the equipment that was very clearly our professionals , here they are shooting and they will think three times more about what they need to purchase for himself for the scale of the conflicts they have, that is, i do not expect any peace plan to be implemented, and contact with the leaders of african countries will be useful, that is, one should not underestimate their diplomatic abilities, they used this situation for their own purposes. which they could bring to kyiv, let's talk hypothetically, because i haven't seen the official release yet, i don't know for sure what is being prepared in the president's office and in the ministry of foreign affairs, there was a demand that kyiv somehow influence the

withdrawal of the international criminal warrant court for putin or putin's movement is limited by the world, it is clear that this warrant can be canceled only by judges of the international criminal court, no one else, that is , can it be that in this package from african countries from the leaders of african countries there was such a proposal that let's change the warrant putin on putin on the withdrawal of troops there or, let's say, on the freezing of the conflict no, i do not rule out that the leader of south africa of the south african republic is primarily interested in this topic because meetings of a group of countries such as russia are planned there

south africa enters the year and they need to do something to defuse this situation with the participation of the criminal directly or even online. and of course they would be very interested in this course of events now . this is a serious brand, right now, at the moment, it can end badly in the future, and since things have changed in serbia, they also said that it is not unrealistic, as a result , an african leader has become real - they know this very well, they have already had a couple of such cases. until now, there is only one of them sits in gazi, and the second traveled, tried to tell that he would be accepted in neighboring countries, of course, he was accepted there once, and then again , because for them, this is a very familiar story, they understand the value of this issue, and of course they can er, so to speak, present the soil er the attitude of ukraine, but the attitude of ukraine, you know, it is officially expressed

, so they will not achieve anything here. and what is a partial withdrawal? i do not understand at all what it is about, that is, maybe they are thinking of some kind of next, as the russians say already from of good will, then they planted it when , under the pressure of our armed forces, they will have to bite their heels, they will say, and we agreed to exchange it for a change of attitude towards putin. that's why it's unrealistic. and in general, there is such a set. because you were like that i emphasize once again there is nothing seriously realistic about this so-called peace plan as i said tomorrow these leaders of african countries will meet with putin in st. petersburg at the international economic forum today eh

the kremlin grandfather spoke at this forum, gave a press conference, spoke about neo-nazism in ukraine, spoke a lot about the success of russia during this year, the first year of the great war, and the 10th year of the russian-ukrainian war . without threats, look at the kremlin above, the residents of the president of the russian federation, the attacks on the belgorod region, there neighboring regions of russia, this is a request to provoke us to a response, well , listen, if we destroyed near kiev five complexes of the patriot will destroy any building and construction in the center of kyiv. there are no such restrictions. they are just waiting

for us to start pressing buttons. well, there is no such need. they don't have buttons like that to press. and if you're serious , he's talking about well, i met the figure that two patriots are stationed near kiev, that is, how could they destroy five there, he also answered questions about nato, he said that nato is, of course, involved in the war in ukraine and that the west is trying to limit the russians in nuclear weapons and to reduce nuclear weapons and he replied that it sucks and well, that is, the style of the gopnik eh was entered into this eh st. petersburg economic forum and pisco said well there are many signals for the west, let them listen to what are these signals mr. valery eh

you know well, if you try to seriously analyze these statements, then they have really changed a lot , you know, i can’t- there is no such thing as it used to be , but still there is an intention to show that they can achieve such extraordinary goals 5 m - these are two options uh or just propaganda lies and what they use, putin himself began to constantly use this tool. although i will tell you that he tried to avoid it in his time, or even worse, i am a story if he is told so, that is , maybe he was told about petriv . they were there, the military spokesman said that they were leopard tanks. they just hit all five more there, and it was from helicopters, and then it became clear that these were combine harvesters, that is, i assume that

they can simply introduce it with such unreliable information and screw it up the desire to be active with energy and to please his sick ego so that he continues er this war, so the second statement is that i will hit any object i come across, well listen kindergartens hospitals maternity homes eh this means for sure i can eh deny that they get hit and less and less because our ppu works reliably well listen he can puff out his cheeks but let's just take his interview about it his wonderwaffe magic weapon daggers which he just scared the world scared america, even the president of the united states, i remember saying yes, this is such a weapon and football hypersonic, that its

data can be shot down. i remember this briefing , not only petriv showed the systems. by the way , six daggers, six calibers, all in the interval eh hmm simply with a minus, that is, i think that these messages were still more internal for the russians, they no longer try to cover up lies because it is part of the war and lies have been told 10 times plus from high stands, this is the helisot approach carried out by the fascists, which, unfortunately, sometimes works, and the audience that is there, it is different from the one that smiles, just laughs at what lavrov said, they attacked me and what putin says, that is , they live in a completely different, completely different paradigm in a different world, yes, they will be until

the end everything will not be destroyed, they will not try to destroy, try to scare, try to blackmail, this is their er, there was and will be the main approach to this, we must be ready, and this blackmail is often not based on real possibilities, that is, it must be said that in principle, in the classics, er, certain there and of the chinese and sunzi treatises clauseris even wrote about it that we should show the enemy more and we are the enemy for them in this case to show more opportunities, what is this, too, an element of the war that is why this is how it should be perceived and the only thing that is needed in this situation is a statement that we we will hit f-16s there, wherever they are, then we need to take these statements, he has already done it , then we need to analyze our response, in what way i was preventive measures

and i think this statement should push uh and in the provided planes in ukraine eh there are 4+ platforms there and long-range missiles, that is, well, in addition, he already perfectly understands if he does that well, putin or whoever will do it to them, he opens up completely different opportunities from our side. moreover, i will not say that this will be some kind of new wave of escalation. it will simply be more opportunities for ukraine. to hit that airfield for those targets where there is constant anxiety , citizens see mig 31s going up, yes they are going up, what are they going up there? what to us does not allow er simply to prevent these launches from this territory

from the point of view of entering into the conflict, there is nothing except the calculations that we use, how we use, that is, listen to this, there is nothing new, he will scare constantly and if he is afraid of this, then he is the winner in fact, this will not happen because it is all blackmail , it has already stopped working. well, you asked about the fact that they are threatening the f-16 planes, which have not yet arrived in ukraine, but our pilots are already starting to learn. there is a program yesterday on rammstein. they agreed that in norway in denmark will have ours in the netherlands and in denmark our pilots will learn to fly these planes. lavrov said this. if we see what it is like in 16 they fly over ukraine and pose a threat to russia, the answer will be military and technical, and in addition, putin also said that the president biden is an adult and an experienced person, it is not for us to teach

him, let him do what he thinks is necessary, and we will do what is in the interests of russia , son, everyone will have to be reckoned with, added the president of russia, is it clear that the whole world will watch this style the gopnik and the son will be counted and how to take into account the fact that putin is constantly rattling his weapons. that is, where is the limit beyond which the end is already , simply because the behavior that he already demonstrated today, frankly speaking, well, she is impressively insolent to - to- to such an extent that i re-watched all these records and i just didn't have enough words to somehow react to it. in fact, uh, i think that the basic that's why he does this, he came back again. yes, you saw a certain period somehow more rather, it is a problem of problems that really are

are not only there with what was planned, but with what will happen next . he also sees, in principle, there are people there who are closer and not military who understand where it is all moving, and therefore he needs to speed up the end of the war of surrender of ukraine, he will do it in two ways by searching of these peace plans that will be carried by the chinese there, the africans, and the second is the maximum raising of the intimidation inserts , which means p-16, he said, so this is the first, this is what is really needed, and unfortunately for our company, we do not have such opportunities e told us that you do not need f16 well, by the way, not only in 16 we are talking about different types and there can be a complex solution, but the second important question in this situation is that he is not testing the courage

of the political president of the united states , that is, the message came to intimidate the president of the united states from my point of view, this is such a cynical form , as lavrov said, the turn is familiar, that is , they are intimidating the president of the united states , the first country in the world, from an economic and military point of view, from actions that are already in principle were announced, that is, it calls into question the quality, they deliberately do it in the presidential company in the capacity of joseph biden. i think that he, having political experience, will react appropriately and not in the way that moscow wants, you mean that they are now playing along with trump and you read this statement a few days ago by françois hollande that this entire election campaign in the 24th year in the united states of america will affect the end

of the russian-ukrainian war and that if trump comes, he will simply collapse and russia will stop where it is now, well, that's another question i er think you know a lot of such er unknowns trump will come or someone else will come that is i would not say so clearly i did not read what holland said now but i definitely understand er that the situation will be much more complicated and we we can't predict them now, just what we can say now is that the company will take into account this geopolitical element. well, it is possible that it will be seriously different from any previous ones, and that is, well, conventionally speaking, in the top five or there in the top ten issues that will be

e- e to be discussed by e-e americans and put on the body tv show yes, when there are candidates, there will be the issue of the russian war against ukraine and, in a broader plan, the position of china and the conflict with china, and all the others , and of course the definition of each candidate , including joseph biden, is very important here , so of course he it is necessary to approach the period of such an active phase of the company next year with results, and he must understand that the faster ukraine will be, the opportunities that today do not allow us to move much faster, then the more effective it will be there in the spring for him the use of certain arguments, that is, i would say so. that is, it can become an element of his pre-election debates or campaign, and i will not be too late with mr. woland that everything will stop immediately depending on the results

of the united states elections. there are elements there, even such fatigue of american society from the theme of the warrior can play its role, that is, now it is difficult to say how it will affect, but what is affecting at the moment is also possible that it is blocked. on their state channels, they are mocking joseph abyden, it is obvious, that is, they do not in any way affect trump, uh , the miracle here is not the question of those who are calling for ukraine to give up the territory well, let's say that, in short , they will do it to attack and now they are taking on, you know what they are called in the backdoor, they are taking the americans for fear. i want to see how it ended this time

, because to be honest, at the beginning the action worked, now i really hope it won't work. i would be very happy to take a step forward preventive, that is, so far, why can putin say that he feels that the reaction is following his steps, if he takes a step ahead of his steps, the entire reconstruction will collapse , a step forward has not been taken in the history of the zaporizhzhia npp, and we are now watching over the last 14 months, russia basically blackmails the zaporizhzhia npp the whole world i.e., nuclear blackmail is underway. zelensky says that russia wants to blow up the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in order to destabilize the situation in ukraine, percent said in an interview with nbc news, and he said that the event has

speed up the provision of military aid to ukraine so that ukraine finally wins victory over the russian occupiers, let's hear and see what zelensky said, russia wants to undermine the eu because, just like with the dam , they are not interested in security in ukraine, they constantly need destabilization here, and they want the flower to put pressure on ukraine for the necessary invariant of the freezing of this conflict. rafael rusi - this is the general director of megate, after visiting the zaporizhzhya npp, which is under the control of the russians in energodar, he said that the amount of water available at the npp station can be safe for a certain time, according to the money, there is evaporation, there may be some water leakage, but it must be maintained at this level, we will hear more money, i needed to see with my own eyes what the situation was, because there was some contradictory information and opinions regarding the water level, i was able to talk to

the management here, they explained to me what they plan to do and it seems rational, we will continue to monitor the situation and work every day, mr. valery history of the zaporizhzhia npp do the stores and the world have no means of measures that they can take against russia, well, about the same licenses for the construction of nuclear power plants all over the world, does rosatom have many contracts, or why is there no tough and tough reaction to this? well, a lot there was an organization created under a certain mandate, and i will say that today it works inefficiently. well, to put it mildly, what the dictionary says is, well, to be honest, to me, a person who just listens to it after being advised by specialists, is very sorry