tv [untitled] June 16, 2023 9:00pm-9:24pm EEST
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[000:00:00;00] we are for you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and that's the end of it. i say goodbye to you until monday at 20:00. i wish you all a good weekend. take care of yourself and your loved ones . goodbye on the air from ukraine in the studio of olga palamaryuk, and today we summarize the unprecedented historical events in unprecedented circumstances to kyiv with peace proposals a number of leaders of african countries arrived at once and here are the shots of how they meet together to go on a trip, the head of the delegation, the president of south africa together with the leaders of zambia senegal of the idol islands, the prime minister of egypt came with a peace mission, among the measures that the policy of the withdrawal of russian troops can offer
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, the withdrawal of nuclear weapons from belarus, the suspension of the warrant of the international criminal court for the rest of putin, and on the same day, russia shelled the ukrainian capital, releasing, as specified in the air forces of six daggers and six calibers. so the peacekeeping mission of the leaders of african countries to kyiv began. under the sounds of the air alarm, the russians launched ballistic cruise missiles and drones as it was all seen through the eyes of the international media bbc correspondent mini jones reports from the ukrainian capital today's missile attack was characterized by the ukrainian authorities as a powerful launch of missiles and drones in the direction of kyiv and the surrounding region russia in response says that it did not launch any missiles or drones, it is said that the ukrainian forces used anti-aircraft systems alone to
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accuse the russians of aggression, and all this is happening during zelensky's meeting with the delegation of african countries, which is currently in the capital, and tomorrow the delegation will go to russia for meeting with putin, the main purpose of these visits, according to representatives of the mission, is to discuss proposals for reaching a peace agreement, according to them. they have a personal interest in establishing peace between countries, since the conflict has a disproportionate impact on the economy, a number of african countries import grain from ukraine and fertilizers from russia, and in connection with the war, this has led to a reduction in the supply of these goods as a result of rising food prices in africa and a crisis of hunger in a number of countries, the likelihood that both countries will sit down at the negotiating table low ukraine and russia believe that this war can be won only by military means, but for many african countries this is an opportunity to put forward their proposals, representatives of the reuters news agency will say that
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they have seen a draft of some proposals, one of them is the withdrawal of russian troops from the territory of ukraine , among others - this is the cancellation of sanctions against russia and perhaps the more controversial idea of canceling the warrant for putin's arrest issued by the international criminal court, it is not known whether these demands will convince both sides to sit down the negotiating table, but so far these are preliminary talks, african leaders went to kyiv with a peace plan, they offer russia to withdraw its troops from ukraine and take away tactical nuclear weapons from the territory of belarus, in return , they call for the weakening of anti-russian sanctions , to remove from putin the arrest warrant issued by the international criminal court, who are these leaders why will their visit to the truth affect the course of the war bbc correspondents analyze several reasons why these men believe that they can find a way to peace between russia and
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ukraine but let's start with the joker namely from the non-alignment movement first war africa as a continent tries to stay as far as possible from the war four of the six leaders who went to ukraine and russia officially refrain from condemning the war in the un but let's talk about this man cyril romaphosa the president of south africa and the leaders are delegations and in fact the position in which he is is strange because, despite the declaration of neutrality in the war , his country conducted military exercises with russia and china. in addition , the republic of south africa plans to change their legislation due to the potential arrest of vladimir putin, the international criminal court issued a warrant for his arrest , and putin can visit the country at the end of the summer to participate in the summit, so this really angered washington. the usa says that they can stop their funding, but this idea is very popular in south africa. romafossi like all these leaders need an end to the war because economically because of this war africa is suffering about it last year
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the african union said and the numbers are really impressive as a result of the war in 2022, inflation across the continent amounted to 14 and a half percent. there are many reasons for this , first of all, the shortage of oil, we all saw these huge queues at gas stations, but more importantly, it is the rise in prices for such key products as wheat and oil, because the continent is heavily dependent from the export of ukrainian wheat, so this leader is what to talk about during his visits to these two countries, and it will not be a simple diplomatic parade well, as we already said, after today's visit to kyiv , the leaders will go to russia to meet with putin not everyone believes in the success of the african delegation when others failed to do so, but a number of experts call to give it a chance. africa is almost a third of the votes of the oun and the continent should play a more important role on the international stage. this is actually the opinion of the senior director of the african center of the atlantic council of the ramada, which she expressed in
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on the air of the bbc, let's listen to this conversation. i read the article that you wrote a little earlier , it had the title, give a chance, african peace delegations, first of all, why did you choose this particular form for your thoughts, because africa deserves a chance to play a strategic role on the global stage, to stop being in the classic position of a collateral victim due to food and security, including in this war, to get a more strategic role as a player in this new geopolitical order. you know that they represent almost 30% of the votes of the united nations and ukraine felt this when last february 22 african countries chose to abstain when asked if they condemned the russian invasion of ukraine, so it matters when you represent almost 30% of the votes of the united
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nations in this new geopolitical order. i was going to ask your opinion about this delegation, because exactly as you said, some of these countries abstained, some voted against russia , but the south african republic was accused the other day of the fact that in december there were russian cargo ships that were not carrying ammunition and weapons, there are certain very comfortable lines of tension in this group, not so very thin in that for the two countries that abstained , two that supported russia, but there are still 30 african countries that voted to condemn russia, south african the republic thus declares that it is neutral, at the same time this decision to go to kyiv and moscow was made a few days after the american ambassador in par stated that a russian ship was loading ammunition and weapons in the port of cape town in december 22nd, so there was some sarcasm regarding african presidents who want to stop the european war when they can't stop their wars
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or that the couple is trying to distract people from domestic problems, the dancer has released some of what they say are details or drafts of proposals for the withdrawal of russian forces the cancellation of the icc order for the arrest of putin both of these things are unlikely , right? point you know and even if african politicians have not always been successful in achieving peace at home there are countless conflict resolution tools mobilization program peace building mechanisms and strategic frameworks such as fish councils security of the african union, all this exists. and this experience can be applied in ukraine, and whether
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african leaders will become the same peacemakers and whether they will succeed in bringing ukraine and russia to the negotiating table , even though the war in ukraine has affected the lives of many africans because the prices of fertilizer and grain have increased culture and fuel on the continent itself , they believe in the effectiveness of the peace talks not too much because of neuroscience , bbc correspondent barbara asher spoke with the bbc presenter yaldo and hakim amen of kyiv here as you know, today was missile attack and african leaders are in ukraine today, and what do people on the continent say about this delegation or do they believe that it receives the thesis that this delegation will help achieve peace between russia and ukraine, they are skeptical here, because there are signs that one of the parties will be ready sit down at the negotiating table, so the question is, what african leaders think they can contribute to peace, because they do not have a great
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influence, at least obviously, maybe the only important thing is that they do not take a direct part in the conflict and they are trying to remain neutral, so this may be their advantage in the case of peace negotiations, but as you know, the ukrainians have just started their counteroffensive, so this is unlikely . therefore, the purpose of the visit of this delegation is to try to start negotiations on issues that both sides are now ready to talk about , it is possible to help create a favorable environment for potential peace negotiations , this war on the continent was perceived exclusively as a war between russia and the west, there they believe that in fact they have nothing in common except that that they feel its worst manifestations, for example, its impact on the economy, because many countries here on the continent import grain from ukraine and fertilizers from russia, and this supply has stopped because of the war, so it is on these issues that the attention of the african
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delegation will be focused to try to reach some kind of agreement between the two countries that will ensure uninterrupted the supply of grain and fertilizers , the situation is such that here on the continent there are different views on the russian invasion of ukraine , some countries have closer ties with russia than others, but all of them try to emphasize on their neutrality. they are not going to take sides on one or the other side, all they want is peace, this is their position and the message they came with. as for ukraine , it is trying to get support from africa to catch up with russia, which has spent quite a lot over the past few years time for the development of these, especially when it became more and more isolated, so i think the ukrainians will increase their efforts in this regard and try to convince the africans to abandon the position of neutrality, but at the same time ukrainians will be wary of any peaceful offers of peace by africans because the ukrainian position is that
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they do not want to recognize anything that can cement or freeze the territory captured by russia and again africans say everything we want this is peace because war affects sometimes they emphasize that, as they say, it is necessary to end the conflict, stop the escalation and sit down at the negotiating table, so i think to some extent it is a matter of priorities, i remind you that you have paid attention that the presenter of bbc new with yald hakim today is working again in ukraine in one of the districts near kyiv that suffered as a result of today's russian attack precisely during the visit of the leaders of six african countries who brought their peace proposals and what impressions the bbc presenter shared with the world peace african delegation arrived with peacekeeping purposes, the ukrainian authorities say that this is precisely the message that needs to be conveyed to the russians , because the delegation is now faced with what
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ukrainians experience every day with air sirens alarms and constant shelling by russian rockets look here i just want to show you what is happening here the police arrived here about half an hour ago they cordoned off this area but before the police showed up we managed to get in there quickly yes to see the extent of the destruction with our own eyes we talked to local residents people are depressed by what happened to their housing, they want the air defense system to work faster and be able to destroy russian missiles or drones as soon as they they are launched into the air, but from time to time such flights happen, houses are completely destroyed, but these residents are lucky, there are no victims, it is now known about four injured , an 80-year-old woman in that house, and here there is also an injured twelve-year-old boy, and also behind my operator we see a completely
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destroyed house after the fall of the rocket people were incredibly scared, and all this is only half an hour away from the city center, where the african delegation is currently meeting with zelenskyi to talk about peace and what can convince both sides to sit down at the table negotiations, the african delegation says they are also on the front lines, they are suffering from high prices for products, the population of their countries has suffered great damage , they are under pressure , today's shelling is an example of what ukrainians go through every day, here is a destroyed area that is close to the city, this is a reminder that this country, nation , city, capital face war every day, rocket fire well, that's all for today , look for more stories on our website bbc.ua
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on our pages in social networks and we are back in on the air on monday at 21:00 good luck and take care of yourself happy good evening friends on the air of espresso tv channel we continue our informative conversation mykola september don't get it mixed up please today is his birthday he is always on us he is coming so what if fuck what else among others the good news is that we here in the armed forces of ukraine continue and we will now
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talk with the head of the center for military legal research oleksandr musienko about how it is going , please congratulate mr. oleksandr oleksandr show yourself o show oleksandr good health. thank you . what does it mean for us on friday evening, when all decent people except portnikov and september are definitely resting? i constantly beat myself up for this request, but because i constantly have the impression that here we are, it should be like the movie lake, you are driving when 5 million people are driving from below. i
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a dissident was still a soldier of the freedom soldiers class there in the first in the first ranks of the attackers if leonid glich brezhnev is in short order here beautiful soviet airplanes are flying over the land 77 million tanks are flying over them 18 million airplanes and the enemy is running and today this offensive is taking place it is obvious that not like that, but how can you describe it, mr. oleksandr? well, of course, if we had 18 million tanks and 7 million airplanes, it would happen as you described, of course, but after all, we also have to get out of the fact that our resources are limited, although our partners help us quite significantly from the point of view of visualizing historical examples and parallels, taking into account the fact that this is the south of ukraine, i would still manage to do something from what we see so far, you know, as a tactic nestor makhna, only now, it is not cars with large-caliber machine guns, but armored infantry plus artillery support
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, which give the result that was obviously achieved in the performance of those tasks that are obviously being set now, and the tasks are being set - this is uh to maneuver and search for lines of defense that are problematic for the enemy, to attack, to force him to stretch his defensive lines along the entire front line, which is quite long, to transfer reserves, that is, actually, to drive, which is called at the first stage, because they do not fully understand where the blows will be, and there where the strikes are already taking place, for example, south of the great novosilka, what we see are already liberated villages, there are also populated areas, and where russian troops are already stationed further south in the area of staromlinivka, there is their artillery on the heights. here is the task to influence this defense, to gain a foothold on the bridgeheads and to create certain corridors through which
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tanks, heavy weapons, armored vehicles and the like will be provided at the next or subsequent stages of the advance of technology. this is how i see it today and i have to say that despite the fact that in someone's imagination it should be exactly like that. here it won't be like that here, after all. our task is to get the enemy with suddenness, speed, maneuverability and at the same time constantly keep in tension what is called harassing fire only with moving with constant maneuvers with constant such counterattack raids that i think will definitely give uh certain results and well, what conclusion can we draw that the directors should prepare to shoot other films already films like when they were already shot they do not correspond to reality, so the directors have to somehow retrain what do you think of the results of alexander the last ramstein , this is such an important question, how much is it? is it such an auxiliary story, because we see that
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lately it is not so much about weapons as about ammunition, that the weapons seem to already exist. well it may not be enough, but it is quite significant, but now it is necessary to feed these weapons with projectiles, i completely agree, we just need to understand often enough we also have our attention here and we are waiting for news, you know what happened with ramstein, once against ship missiles, the second time from the himers system before this, artillery is essential, for example, the m-3 seven-barreled barrel, and then a-ah, after all , tanks were discussed in one way or another. we heard about tanks with airplanes , there is some progress, but we must not forget that 60-70% of the success of military operations is rear work is logistics - it is ensuring the manufacture of weapons, their timely delivery and delivery in as much as is necessary to maintain fire activity, and
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this is what the two previous ramsteins are dedicated to, and this was the previous one, as described by the secretary general of nato from toltenberg , they will be boring for a wide audience in general, but very necessary things will be discussed at them, and this is what is important. i personally heard from this rammstein these are the statements of the minister of defense from the united states, lloyd gosti, who said that they are ready for the marathon. i believe that this is a very important story because they have an understanding that offensive actions objectively require more resources than defensive war and therefore, of course, this must be ensured. judging by the fact that there are sentiments of our partners. and i would like to draw your attention to the fact that as soon as rumors spread that ukraine had received or lost or damaged bradley tanks there were immediately statements from france, germany and the usa that, in principle, they would supply us, and now, by the way,
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we heard following the results of this rammstein about what will be the armored vehicles today, belgium also made a corresponding statement about the m113 armored personnel carriers, so i assess positively because we see that we will receive what we need to support our offensive actions, we can already say about this with absolute responsibility, another important question is purely theoretical a they say that ukraine can get some kind of israeli special partner status, not a nato member , but some kind of special partner, but i read, read, maybe you read better, maybe you know the language better, and i never understood except for money what gives this special status when i read what special status the jewish state has in relation to the usa, it's money, it
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's again weapons, missiles, ammunition, it can spy money . russia so that it does not attack ukraine , some kind of very er middle eastern version of appeasement. so, mr. oleksandr , there are really no security guarantees except for aid money, as i already said, maybe intelligence with the training of ukrainian soldiers and so on and so forth similar training there of the pilots of the umbrella above us no one is going to disclose correctly i understood i think that this is only one of the options one of the options that is being considered and should not be taken as exclusively final because i think that we will have with our security guarantees taken into account different experiences and the experience of israel, probably also the experience of japan, the experience of the southern
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competition, the partial experience of the scandinavian countries that were not , e.e., participants recently but had certain guarantees, that is, i think that it will be like this mix for us, the key is three positions, i can them voice what they are talking about and insisting on with our partners, firstly, it is really providing us with weapons, secondly, finances , and thirdly, and this is also something from the israeli version , this is the joint production of weapons, investments in the defense industry sector, the implementation of joint projects, this is very important, and we still have to think about this for the future, because we need to produce weapons and this is a task for us
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