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[000:00:00;00] tell me here , at all, it will be lost by no one , not personally. this is also a demonstration of uncertainty, because how will you comment if you act , mariupol will go and they say that you will sell tomorrow. but if this happens, you will also send it to the defense mission . because simply by time he turns out to be the real elite. the so-called elites are worried when i listen to putin's liberal russian opponents. they all say the same thing that there is now almost a conspiracy ripening, and the fsb and the military and the economists and everything in the world and everything that
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is dissatisfied really want that putin does not even hear the possibility of reaching an agreement with the west with ukraine . i don't know with whom else how much this corresponds to reality. i think that there is more here. we can see confidence even in this environment of our own class in the wide ego consideration, because of course they also look at the same picture that everyone else understands and gives themselves a report that the continuation further and further of this is of course and it does not affect them significantly. but their assets are on sanctions on everything whatever and they themselves get nothing from it actually win from the war actually all the same who are too close to putin himself everyone else only loses but the conspiracy you understand for this you need to be a person in order to involve him, it is not what is there to guide him, it is not what to organize him
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, you need to be a person, at least with some minimum conviction, you must believe in something , yes. we see people who can take on the answer, even shipelenko, what kind, when i turn on, they removed the seven-chapter, all the rest , well, somehow, somewhere, you know that there was strength in them , and there was some kind of personality . well, the ideology is clear there. byla i don't see such people. here are people who are ready on independent movement, i don’t see them, and it turns out that the beauty of life is the most ostentatious. you understand, well, he still comes with a set that is not his own, and according to the grandeur that he has. i don't see such people, that's why now we were the leaders of the kgb, and putin is the leader of the gb, that's the problem. i have my own . i have my last question.
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if so, do you understand what happened? was the patient alive or dead ? i still think that there was some sort of shelling of the convoy . because the column is shelled from denmark every day why wouldn't the column be shelled akhmatya, not understanding what such an impossibility is, could he suffer as a result of these actions, he will suffer but i don't think he died i don't think because if he died spark it well, it can be because they will talk about the hostages . will destroy the military leaders of ukraine and here it still turned out it's quite bad for them, so i can fully admit that he suffered, he was possibly wounded
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, serious, serious, i don't know, but he was not killed, because he concealed the murder, concealed the death. delimkanov is too long, it is impossible, but i repeat the information is quite contradictory , i have no questions, i want to ask, if you like, what do you think about this conditional positional conflict between the topics, who thinks that some armed resistance is possible, who believes that the political changes of russia that we saw after this offensive are necessary. well , it cannot be called an offensive . what is it called? she is generally capable of bringing her ideas to life. well, what can i say about the political conditional faction, it makes up the majority , and here there are many reasons, ideological reasons, there are reasons, well, in general, they do not understand how to support a military detachment
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, a military position, there are many things and there is some part that gives itself a little bit. everything has already been tried. there are no protests, rallies, calls for pacifism or anything else. they will not give results there. it is very important not because of those who gather to just wait. let everything go by itself. and we we will arise then when it will already be possible to show oneself without risk , yes, there will be some kind of military confrontation. train, someone let ukraine, let the request be created , help these military positions to the military detachments, and we will just be left alone and history will pass by, and i would say that yes, not all of this is exactly what is wet in this. we so, where in this process are we talking about some humanitarian aid programs with relocation, and something similar, and excuse me, here already on the territory of the belgorod region , the armed people of our citizens of the russian federation are entering, where in this process
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are the political police remember only the liberal institutions liberal where is khodarkovsky in this, where are all the others, they are not there, you understand the bulk bull, which means that you need to reflect on this situation in some way , you need to identify yourself in it in some way well, those who strongly oppose it are may turn out to be outsiders because they won't even have this connection, you understand, that's why the tense dialogue is going on, i don't think that this will soon lead to the support of armed resistance, but the chance that the drift in this direction will go is not zero, thank you, thank you, okay in russian, an opposition public politician, a lawyer and a blogger was in touch with us. thanks , a huge panamarket is now in touch with us . pavlo sverdlov, editor-in-chief of the belarusian radio, eh, belarusian radio, euro radio, yes, eh
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of the belarusian opposition navy, are you the one who attacked? good health . good day. we have it again now. the first question is always the same . how is the state of health of mr. lukashenko? well, we see that everything is easier. moreover, that's all. i hear rumors about what he is there. it is bleeding, yes, there is snow, the plane flew by empty, this all turned out to be a fake. unfortunately, the views are collected, yes, the nerves are twisted, but lukashenko was a moron and stayed. well, i think that globally, his health is certainly not very good for a 69-year-old duck and although there his health is definitely being taken care of by the best doctors in belarus, yes, and a lot of this stuff is laid out, but i think, well, wait, wait , of course, my voice is not all floating anymore . yes, i have already improved my voice, yes,
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lukashenko entered the phase of bomb throwing can you explain why he comments with such enthusiasm on all these stories about nuclear weapons? it's as if it's not nuclear weapons that are supposed to destroy millions of people, but some yes , some, i don't know, an order from russia or something , i don't know, a new machine of the russians e- e oligarchs commented when they got a new car putin gave us a garage, did they store a fur coat there? what does this person say about a nuclear storage facility, as they once talked about a fur coat storage facility that they built in my house? is it madness or calculation? listen, lukashenko is a man, a paradox, yes, on the one hand , honey exactly peacemaker yes, here he is, the pyromovy of russia with ukraine. yes, he is there, as well as the nuclear weapons, and he also told about his pyromovy from ukraine to lviv, about which no one knows anything, and of course lukashenko, yes
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, bakyon tells us about it as well he wants end this war, it will reconcile uh, everyone, who can be reconciled, or so on, on the other hand, this is just lukashenko's next phrase, well, we have a nuclear bomb here, yes , i am more powerful than what they dropped, and when we drop a million on someone a person will die, yes, that's normal, absolutely, that's lukashenko in one interview, yes, in one of his speeches, that's probably the extreme. how would you understand, we've been planning nuclear weapons for years, and he called its withdrawal from belarus a mistake, and now yona trimlivaet it an expensive toy, and what is it in his opinion? something guarantees
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him that it guarantees him well, don't get in touch . yes, i'm psychic, i can press the button. yes, but i don't believe how much he wants. what kind of guarantees do you want ? how about finally this table for a legal pension, which he has already earned? if nuclear weapons такой гарантый in my opinion , no. in my opinion
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, nuclear weapons for two years will turn lukashenko and belarus into a legitimate target of the united states. our bomb is better than hiroshima according to lukashenko's face, it will not explode where, uh, they will hide it, and when they plan to launch it, well, that's fine. well, i think it's a question , there was not everyone's rhetorical refusal. look, this is such an acute phase of derangement, yes, nuclear weapons were here such a light phase that i have not heard of maybe you have never heard it, you will definitely say for belarus more and better than me, it was possible to agree on the lease of crimea. i heard this the other day. i have never heard about the possibility of renting crimea. and that there should be negotiations and it would be possible to agree
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on what it might be. you know what it is about . well, first of all, let me give you an interview. that the russian army has learned to fight like that, that's why the kitten wanted er, well, it will make a compliment. yes, and also, look at what is not cool now. yes, oleg the teacher - this is not at all like a compliment, the same lukashenko. repeat hours ago, i think that there is no need to remind or i will remind you, i was sure that the russian army would take kiev there in 3-4 days, in 3-4 days, and the war would end like this, and he said that now it's been a year and three months since the war was already oma 04, and he said that it's possible to congratulate you russians , your army is the second army of the world, yes and it he learned to fight, so when he starts to carry his political standard
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on the yon - of course he wants to please neyrok, yes, if you want , he will compliment ali otrymlivaetsya. lukashenko doesn't say and who had to rent crimea and from whom did they have to rent crimea and i am recalling a story about the fact that it was 15 years ago at the time of the first orange revolution yes it was the propagandist talked about the fact that the chinese rented 1 million hectares of ukrainian land and cultivated with it who i what is needed china yes and the ukrainians are no longer the owners there a-a the land of ukraine is good black soil everything that the chinese need to grow eh this is what they told us
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in belarus yes it is possible that lukashenko has in mind that ukraine will not rent ukrainian land, it does not mean that ukraine will be a beneficiary near there . they talked about the fact that china is ready to rent all of russia, crimea, and in this way the whole of goethe will grow, and the question will be expressed in the mind about victories that no one knows about , and i am proposing one that no one has heard of and no one has agreed to . only what should be expected. perhaps it is not necessary for a diplomat somewhere to raise the idea that since the chinese government is not formally or rather actually in taiwan now, maybe the americans will take it on rent and be fine for themselves
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, just like china will take crimea from russia, well, this is approximately a mirror answer, well, wait, how the chinese liked it a lot, of course, yes, yes, to move from conspiracy theory to reality, i still want to understand, but returning to the topic of nuclear weapons, lukashenko still cannot use them, why is he happy that putin can use nuclear weapons that are on his territory, he does not even hide them anymore that he can't use it, that 's what skabievich said. i'll call the president of russia to ask him to press the button and outside, it seems to me that there is chatter in two directions about the president's communication russia wants to use nuclear weapons to say that i really have a button, give me a buckle and lukashenko although i'm thinking how it will be gogol , i imagine putin is going to use nuclear weapons and this means that lukashenko is calling
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lukashenko to him what will he say listen volodya , let's not be yes, i like you my beauty i asked, yes. and we know everything. we know. practically everything that corresponds to putin in such situations. well , sasha is against it. okay, i changed my mind. well , let’s not do it. yes, i want to from the belgorod region. yes. well, let’s imagine the whole thing in turkey. placement of nuclear weapons of the united states yes, uh, biden expresses, well, a hypothetical situation is used , he calls the army, well, here it is, here we are, we will work into the heads of these people, yes, and we say. i think that he will definitely call erdogan, because if the nuclear weapons of the united states are placed in to turkey, it is not agreed within the framework of nato , it is not, the president of the united states cannot also use nuclear weapons without agreement within the framework of nato. there
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is simply an alliance. the decision because it is precisely because it is placed when i think that when they give consent for nuclear weapons to be located on their territory, there is a mechanism for coordinating it, it cannot but be our belarus well, maybe lukashenko will forbid putin to use nuclear weapons well, i just tell you i will say that lukashenko, well, lukashenko for putin can do something like rdogan for biden, i don’t lead, here the assembly was conducted in parallel , but your question was why are you and him itching? i think that you are because nuclear weapons are used and no one is miyagi is also planning a countermeasure, and it still consists in the fact that it seems they won’t bring it to belarus, and because it ’s a piece of coal, i’d like at least one argument for what kind of nuclear weapons should be placed in belarus
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for only to share, really, i’m from lukashenka , putin’s nuclear weapons necessary as a tool of blackmail, that's why i don't talk about it all the time. it seems that i didn't call it, and at first it was the first of july. yes , now putin negotiated that number 8 is today. to the territory belarus was transported, but still, a lake warhead is not a needle. yes, it is quite difficult to hide and hide the transportation, and at the same time, putin. well, it seems that the process will be finished by the end of the year . yes, we have one more term, and this term is six now yes, it is funny, yes, putin needs nuclear weapons in order to blackmail the west and blackmail the world , as long as he sees that this blackmail does not work
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. they gave it, but according to the facts, putin needed blackmail , and not only lukashenko got access, but yes, nuclear weapons, after all, this is not tsarist , this is a serious speech, the question will be a businessman , or the second to last, i think the last, but mr. pavlo, look, what are the belarusians talking about do they know about these nuclear weapons at all, at least among themselves in the kitchens, i used to share opinions with the soviet union, so now we will have uh weapons, are they happy, or do they think the other way around damn it, it will come to us now well, it can come if it comes from here fly it can fly and so on. what is the reaction of the public in general? i understand that it is difficult because there is no public that can speak out loud, but maybe you feel
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some hints. and they did not hesitate and propaganda belorusskaya works in this direction and interprets it as cool that ukraine will have nuclear weapons in belarus, and the employees of the lukashenka who are sitting these peppers let them not show themselves in any way they certainly understand the danger, and those who are abroad, i am not called upon to urgently respond to the defense of this whole prospect. and who are you among them? yes , this is what their leaders are doing . uh, there's a magic wand put in by putin and it turns into uh, rust, and the share lasts for two years. i'm afraid of all this , and the word chernobyl is still a long way for a belarusian. the sound is especially for those who live
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in the gomel region. so i think что ставление с большого негативная but of course eh цветы who are absolutely happy and there will be a day when nuclear weapons were opened in belarus with a glass of shandar years and so on. we will now have new york on on on the way out as they once said yes igor eisenberg is a professor at new york university we hope you will see him now saw p igor thank you for finding time for us and well and then er question well let's start with that american media diplomats are expecting something from chinese -american relations. well, maybe the public is interested, maybe the professor is interested in
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blinkin's visit to china. what does this mean ? blinkin's attempt to convince china to help russia less is the main goal. is it purely sino-american relations? the visit that he was supposed to take place earlier in february linked then canceled it because of this chinese balloon er espionage on the united states , that is, it is still a postponed visit er well he expectations are being discussed, you know. well, the expectations are probably that the same topics will be discussed that should not be discussed with people at a-a. one of these topics, of course, is that blinking will talk about china not helping russia , because this is constantly repeated, not at every briefing of the state department. journalists ask questions, do you monitor whether china is helping russia or not helping russia ? there are constant warnings about things about
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the department, let's say even when there is a briefing at the ministry of finance when it comes to the sanctions are the same warning to china that if it helps russia , then there will be appropriate sanctions, of course he will talk about it, but of course not only about this, because i have many questions about the relations between the united states and china and therefore he will talk about everything. yes, please. tell me, please, about blinkin. when he talks about the ukrainian offensive and promises american support, he always goes alone, and something is also going on. there will be a successful offensive after that , and there will be a strong position for negotiations. why? the american leadership generally believes that russia will go to some kind of negotiations, no matter what the ukrainian offensive is, we see that russian statements generally indicate a complete desire to talk about anything and not only with ukraine, where does this conviction
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come from that negotiations will take place and i am with you absolutely stolkenberg's general secretariat a few days ago, when he was in washington, uh, he met with president biden and with this jonder secretary well , it seems to me that this is such a diplomatic language that it means it's hard for me to say, but it's very hard for me to imagine that such people linked to toltonberg - people are simply educated and experienced diplomats and politicians, that they can still think that putin will go to some kind of negotiations, at the same time, on the terms of ukraine and the west, and not on their own terms she repeats herself, what kind of metadiplomatic. but when she repeats herself, it is difficult for me to say, honey, for example. such conversations annoy me personally. i do not believe in the sincerity of these words
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. putin can go for victory not for any reason, but you know such good reasons that let's establish peace, we'll go away from ukraine , we'll pay reparations, he absolutely understands that putin will not do this, but you , he repeats it and i say it again, it's hard for me to say because it annoys me when he says that, because i don't love him sincerely , and these are, in my opinion, probably the only insincere words that he repeats right away, and look at the professor, and i, again, for fish money, there are some- there will be some thoughts in the press or
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your conversation with your fellow professors. is it possible to theoretically give a new alliance between the united states and china, because history knows about it, we know what swingers we know mao zedong nixon, we know then america managed to overturn well, there was already friction between the soviet union and the people's republic but uh, from some point in the beginning of the first half of the 70s, it became obvious that the alliance against the soviet union of china and the united states is now possible to imagine such a thing or even impossible to imagine. i think that it is impossible to imagine it will be discussed again anywhere and everywhere everywhere china is positioned as the uh the main uh the opposite of the united states geopolitical ah many years ahead and this is so and i think that uh well china has a very developed economy the second economy in the world
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that continues to grow china has nuclear weapons and he is increasing it, he will have even more, and there are no such considerations, because russia is currently viewed by the united states as a threat today, but as a state that is in decline, it will continue to decline, and in the long term, the russians consider it as as uh a threat in the united state and because of it with education it is a threat today but let's say the day after tomorrow it is considered that it uh 10 storm will not be simply because it will become even weaker my economy will decrease and so on and so on i think that at the beginning of the 70s, when nixon, such a gentleman, established relations with the prc, the news
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really considered china as an er ally in the fight against the soviet union, because there were very bad relations between china and the royal union, and there were conflicts, even because in the armed conflict of 69- this year, i think that they are then decided that they could use it because at that time the soviet union was seen as the main adversary in the international arena. and now the situation is different. and tell me. if we talk about another such adversary of the united states about iran, now they are talking about the fact that iran and the united states they can conclude some kind of temporary agreement and not the nuclear agreement that was in effect until that moment , it was not shown to the previous president donald trump. even though we do not know the details of the agreement, it seems to me today the prime minister of israel by the name of tam yahu during his speech at the international committee of the israeli prince and said that israel can live with this agreement unlike
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the previous ones, so what is the meaning of these iranian -american agreements and how can they differ from the previous ones i haven't seen the details of what washington is interested in, i'm sure, just as you've seen various publications in which they will probably rewrite about what might be there, but it can allow the following: that the united states , of course, is absolutely interested in being there were no nuclear weapons and it is being repeated repeated by all administrations in independent ways is it republican or democratic will they not allow there to be nuclear weapons the united states has absolutely no interest in any major war in the middle east is not interested in a war between er iran a-a and
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that's why israel is. well, since then, the absence of the president is a policy towards iran, and in the sense of the iranian nuclear weapons attack, that it is necessary to prevent its creation , that the united states can promise early , there are various different things, and i think that while we not we will see this agreement if it is signed. we will never know, it may be the lifting of sanctions, it may be some kind of agreement that may provide that the iranian , let's say, will stop being so tight-knit with russia. and it may be some economic preferences where it is too early and even before it suffers a lot from sanctions, in particular, from american sanctions and secondary sanctions that the united states imposes on companies that cooperate with iran, that is, i can think of something like that, and surely something like that is going on

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