[000:00:00;00] now, er, to show er, in this plan , to take offense and name the cheeks, but we must be pragmatic about what happened and we must still continue cooperation with the alliance, because er, this is an existential issue and the issue of the existence of ukraine the closer we see it, the more appropriate it is to some new, possible final phase , the war is becoming angrier, resistance to russia is more provocations , for example, i believe that the blowing up of the kakhova hpp was blackmail by nato - it was specially done in order to, um, intimidate some members of nato to show that russia is ready to use

weapons of mass effect and under such conditions under such conditions we must do everything to strengthen our cooperation with nato and obviously i think that the president should without showing your feelings to go there and take part in this meeting, because without nato and without a guarantee of our security before we become members of nato, we will be in the same gray zone all the time . literally kryvava, but if we talk about simple guarantees what could they be before nato membership before ukraine's membership in nato what could it be and can be very serious and very powerful and there are already experiences of such guarantees starting with israel where i was the ambassador and i

know very well what is the significance of those american guarantees for the existence of the state of israel although of course there are no direct analogs in the world because our situation and the situation of israel are not different in the end israel is a nuclear country let's not forget about it but there is a so-called dca dca is a defense caporation green is a basic document which the americans, eh, the united states of america can form from any country. they have eh with poland, with finland, with norway . now dca is being prepared with sweden.

we received these guarantees, well, it can be said that it is the largest ally of the states outside of nato . well, it is the general name dca, and i want to tell you that it is a very serious document, it is not a general word blah blah blah as it was said in to that budapest memorandum for example, i carefully read this defection, which is doomed by green and the united states and norway. i was simply fascinated , i'll tell you, and i would dream of having such a contract for ukraine, there are 30 articles written there, everything is written there , the places for storing weapons are written there, it's official the tail is provided for the stay of american troops there, there are four bases of the united states on the territory of norway, because it is extremely important, considering the northern

flank of hnat, country a, and it is all written there , and in fact there is no such and such article as the fifth article of nato, but we understand that if there are four military bases on the territory of the country and there is extremely close cooperation, it is unlikely that the russian aggressor, which shares a common border with norway, will dare to violate this agreement. i think that now as diplomats, we need to concentrate on achieving membership in nato, because next year there will be a big anniversary of nato, the anniversary of nato, and there will be a lot of jubilee meetings in washington, we need this and we also need

to seek guarantees the question is of our diplomacy, how they will actively conduct, i also want to emphasize one very important thing. we should not all the time cast a shadow on our allies who provide us with enormous help and we are grateful to them for this and we should not blame only them that they they don't want us, we are so beautiful, clean and beautiful. i want to remind you of the two huge problems that exist for ukraine: corruption and russian agents. i remember participating in the preparations for the expansion of nato when i worked in washington, and the representatives of the united states frankly told me they said that as long as you have the sending of russian agents among the generals, nothing will happen, we will not become members of nato . i want to remind you of the example of poland, they took very , very tough and very possibly unpopular

measures, they fired all the generals who finished the moscow military academies of schools, i suspect that they could have become an agency, they fired them , it is painful, but it happened so, and we have to think about it, we cannot go to nato with an agency , having accusations higher than the leaders because they, er, work for russia , of course, thank you very much for joining and commenting on our broadcast, there was yuri shcherbak, the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine, we are moving on to suspend the warrant for putin's arrest in exchange for the withdrawal of russian troops, with such a peaceful initiative, according to reuters, african countries right now , a group of leaders of six african countries is in kyiv, led by the most powerful country on the continent, south africa

, the president of this country, cyril ramaphosa, heads a delegation to which the leaders of egypt also go senegal, uganda, zambia, the republic of congo and the comoros islands, according to official information, they are bringing to kyiv peaceful mediation proposals for the settlement of the russian-ukrainian war, the arrival of african leaders coincided with the massive missile attack on ukraine by russian missiles, the european commission spokesman said that the russian missile attack on ukraine will help ukrainians will help africans it is better for leaders to understand who is the aggressor and who is the victim of this war , the head of ukrainian diplomacy dmytro drew attention to this coincidence kuleba putin is building confidence by launching the largest missile attack on kyiv in several weeks just against the background of the visit of african leaders to our capital russian missiles are a signal to africa russia wants more war and not

peace why did russia decide to strike massively on kyiv and the kyiv region when african leaders were there and is there really a connection between these events ? i apologize profusely. and do you see the connection between these two events? the shelling of kyiv, by the way, is a hit in the kyiv region and the destruction and the visit of african leaders. well, the fact that russia carried out this shelling. they knew that african leaders were in kyiv. it is obvious that this is not a simple coincidence of circumstances, and that is, you know, russia always has one tactic, the tactic of intimidation, everything it does is aimed at intimidating others , and here the entry goes, everything goes here, and the bombing

of the civilian population in ukraine and the escalation of the food crisis as a result of the war in the world. by the way, this is one of the reasons why african leaders came to kyiv . this is also the detonation of the dam in nova kakhovka, this is the occupation of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, and this is the bombing. let's remember that this bombing is not the first time. and these bombings were, er, and when biden and one of the leaders of the european union were in kyiv . i don't remember exactly who they were on two other occasions. we often see what russia does by demonstrating

this is the image of a monkey with a grenade, i.e. with nuclear weapons or a madman with nuclear weapons, he often works against russia itself, and i think that for african leaders - well, something should click . may i ask by the way i don't know if diplomatic protocol will allow them to do this, nex courage is enough, but this is a direct question from which we can start, did you know that we were in kyiv and you staged a bombing, you put us in danger, that's why you know how always what russia does, it very often goes against the interests of russia itself and works in this case on ukraine, and you rightly said that our minister of foreign affairs kuleba and representatives of the european union have already said about it. that is, it should change a little the opinions of african leaders

speaking generally about the opinions of african leaders i always suggest because we can hear a lot that everything is lost and so on look at the voting map in the united nations organization if we look at the voting for ukraine's territorial integrity is usually voted against by 141-143 countries of the world, either zero, or there are four countries, or in the last case there were seven or three , if the african country of eritrea often votes against, if i am not mistaken, but it is correct in resolutions who supports from africa, who supports e- e russian position - this is either zero countries or one eritrea or two countries + small ones , but the majority of african countries, a little more than half of them support the territorial integrity

of ukraine, while the others abstain and that’s it a conscious position, we are out of the war, we are neutral, we take no side, and so on. and here, you can often hear that we are members of the non-alignment movement. and this movement was created in 1955, and it was a non-alignment movement between nato and the soviet union and the warsaw pact. that is why we are neutral. the accession movement does not mean neutrality . the movement will not accept. it has always opposed war against colonialism and aggression. that is why it is important for us to convince our african partners that we cannot distance ourselves from this war. proposals that appeared in the media so far there was no official information, but at least well-respected media are talking about it, here is the suspension of putin's horde in the end and, by the way

, the nuclear disarmament of belarus as one of the conditions in exchange for yes, the suspension of the order of arrest in exchange for the withdrawal of troops from ukraine is how profitable this plan is for ukraine, we have not actually seen this plan , and what reuters reports to us. some half-assumptions theses that we are discussing, how it is formulated there, we don't really know, we start from the first point, it means that in the english original it is written pull out well, not in the original, because we did not see the original like that, but in the reuters interpretation it is written in english pull out of russian truck what is pull out pull out it can be a withdrawal and it can be a withdrawal, that is the first question that arises if they are talking about the withdrawal

of russian troops. well, there is a lot to discuss here in exchange for this if it is only a withdrawal over there for some 10-15-20 km. well this is completely different, that is, then it is generally a subject for negotiations . so we can say that there is certainly a pragmatic and to some extent cynical interest of african countries. russia, and besides, is there an ammonia pipeline that goes from russia to odesa? russia wants to unblock it, and africa wants to unblock it, it is also beneficial for them, it is obviously beneficial for us to keep our grain corridors working

, on which the agreement and everything has already been signed by russia is constantly disrupting, and here we can tell the africans well, to ensure at least this, but the issue of reducing sanctions against russia is already another issue, by the way, and food and fertilizer from russia, they are not included in the sanctions packages, especially the western partners brought it under the sanctions brackets in order to not to aggravate the situation in the countries of the global global south ago and we and we have to explain here that guys well, you want grain, you want fertilizers, but listen to the entire territory of ukraine, eh, they are bombing yes and what happened today is an additional argument that the same security happened at kakhovka as at the zaporizhzhia npp, we have to explain to our african partners that

it is not enough to lay the foundations for peace, it is necessary for the russians to enter and withdraw their troops, so there will be a diplomatic struggle around this and various forces are involved, and china, whose plans are close to what wants russia, there are also measures that put pressure on african countries to take a stronger position . of political science at the mohyla academy well, we have already mentioned the shelling of the kyiv region, i suggest you watch the report from the site of the hit during the morning rocket attack on the kyiv region, three were destroyed and more than 30 residential buildings were damaged in the vyshgorod district, it meant there was

a whistle and then i heard lips then i look, everything rained down on me , everything poured down. i get out, i understand that i can't get out . the house is very damaged and i'm not sure that we will be able to live here anymore. i didn't even understand me. i was in a state of shock. and who were you at home with? i was alone at home. hm. if i wasn't alone, i wouldn't be here now . and why do you think that? well, because we very rarely climb into shelters, and this is where the child climbed into the cellar by himself, he writes to mom in we don't have a house, everything is broken, he started showing me a few photos, that is, i understand that my child is 12 years old. he is a very adult and he survived only because he realized that he needed to hide in a shelter, and i understand that if i were at home, maybe we would

not hide and suffer. in fact, everything everything is broken, not all of them are broken, there are no doors, there is nothing, the garage is summer, the kitchen is all broken, the car is all like what you see, everything is broken everywhere, the roof is broken here, go and see how it is broken there and in the summer kitchen. well, i want one thing, let it boomerang to muscovites the only thing is this desire, everything and started going in, i was in the yard with my mother, explosions started there, the crypt there in the house, they started there. it's good that they ran into the room. well, it 's like a plane, the sound is like a rocket flame, the explosion is very strong, the roof is torn off, and the children were in

in a room on the first floor with my husband, i was in kyiv, the child injured his leg below the lower leg, the injury is here, the child was given help , thank god roma is alive, they jumped out with the child into this corridor , the husband stayed in the hall . the husband climbed in, come on, er, they couldn’t get out because the opening was er, blocked , they couldn’t open it for a long time. by the time people started walking, he climbed through the window behind

slavyanskaya. in this very krasnodar region, they don't care, well, let them see what your putin is doing, you bastard, the destruction is a lot , look at the people, these are ordinary people, 35 houses have been beaten , this is already in a circle, this is already more than once in a circle, as much as possible, this is the most, here are these shellings, how much is it in general? in shock, our ter is coming to an end

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the south african republic of egypt came to kyiv today senegal, uganda, zambia and the republic of the congo offered and came with a plan. they offered zelensky a plan for a peaceful settlement. the details of this plan are still unknown, but as the leaders of african countries declare, the goal of this plan is to establish peace after russia's invasion of ukraine, at a time when african leaders have already arrived in ukraine. capital, russia fired at ukraine, and in particular kyiv, six calibers, six daggers and two reconnaissance drones were shot down, angry at kyiv , the most interesting thing is that tomorrow the leaders of the seven african countries should already meet with vladimir putin in st. petersburg, what they will say and what they will say to him after today's shelling is unknown, but some of the african leaders pretended today

that they did not hear and do not know about the shelling during their visit to kyiv, instead, vladimir putin today put on a whole show at the st. petersburg economic forum. he talked a lot about what and how the russian federation should do in the current conditions . he bragged about how the russian economy has been developing over the past year. of the great war of russia against ukraine. well, of course, there are many messages. as his press secretary says, the sand was made towards the west. he said that weapons , nuclear weapons, should be reduced. ukraine will be destroyed by the russian occupiers like

gorillas, leopards , and f-16 planes will burn like that, vladimir putin said. lost 218,500 people in ukraine only in the last day, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 500 orks with the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 3,000 1,965 tanks 7,683 armored fighting vehicles 3,812 artillery systems 606 rocket launcher systems 364 anti-aircraft defenses 314 planes 301 helicopters 6,500-19 units of automotive equipment

18 ships boats 1 1999 cruise missiles - 3357 drones 519 units of special equipment so african peace for ukraine f-16 is already on the way to ukraine and putin as himself expressed his final opinion about this and about other things, we will talk during our program with our guest, a politician, diplomat , ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine to the united states of america in 2015-2019 , valeriy chalyn p. glory, let's start with the visit of the leaders of african countries, because today is quite a revealing day, russia is usually when the leaders fly in or are already arriving . world leaders must come to kyiv are conducting shelling we remember how

general secretary renato came to kyiv in buterysh last may and was shelled just during this shelling , our colleague from radio svoboda was killed we remember how joseph biden flew to kyiv and arrived as an air alert was announced because of the bombers' ice on the territory of belarus well, today also six calibers six daggers, well , in short, quite such a powerful, powerful salute was from the russian federation for the flight of doves of peace from africa, dmytro kuleba the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine said that this was a signal to the african delegation and that putin wants more war and not peace

, the head of the foreign ministry wrote . that they didn't notice anything . but first, let's listen to kuleba. putin strengthens trust by launching the largest missile attack on kyiv in recent weeks, precisely during the visit of african leaders to our capital . russian missiles are a message to africa. russia wants more war and not peace, so let's go. the first thing that the leaders of african countries brought, because now no one can understand what kind of peaceful defense plan is for the air force of our air defense forces, that they already work so professionally on their equipment and on those provided to them this is a clear signal that the equipment works in professional hands, it should come and