[000:00:00;00] b- imagine what it would be like if russian television in ukraine had been working since the 14th year. it seems to me that perhaps it is worth starting with the fact that our government should publish channels that it advises and pay attention to those that it does not advise, and then people already recommend something, people rush to visit sit trust now this first exit let's attach , so to speak, that is, people need to be redirected to other communication channels and more relevant verified and verified correctly yes, that is, well , again, this is an analogy, there is a river, where does someone go throws feces, for example, explain to people that you can't drink the water from this river, you can't take it here, please, open the tap drink the water, maybe there will be a little less freedom here than you have in the telegram, but at least you won't get poisoned and you will be safe, but mykhailo let's see you then

after all, how do we cover if such preparations are starting or is it already a hot stage ? in the comments, they ask why we are not allowed into the combat zone, and i explained to them that it is not possible to conduct a direct report of the offensive because it simply kills our soldiers, that is, when you conduct a real-time report, you give the coordinates to russian intelligence and it will be used immediately in order to pass the entire instruction on the means of defeat , well, the journalists agreed with me, but they say that we have a complete vacuum, we do not know what to do, the real question here is that as a strategist, he foresees that if such a thing is being prepared, if uh, the company of silence, who should also be the prepared materials, or really, which will divert a little from this, or, on

the contrary, really fill this vacuum of uh , productive information about the hostilities , that is, gradually, of course, this vacuum will be closed, because the further the campaign goes, the more there will be information about the liberation of settlements, about our successes , and so on, and here it turned out that the russians intercepted a series of initiatives because they showed the uhu leopard burned. against the background of our silence, the russians, er, by the way, they used er, this situation , which is recommended to be preserved, that they used it in a classic disinformation company, they are hiding something from you , that is, they have created distrust in the government again, please specialists, what can be done to show in such a situation, tell about how effective they are, how cool it will be when they arrive , for example, you know, fill in

, the anatovsk council is taking place, the person responsible for the media is sitting at the table, who can say they they say well, we are thinking of doing it this way and they look at this person who says, oh , the press will tear you, but try it, but this is what we have to do. this is exactly what he says. and let's repackage it and submit it . that's how it will work out. that is, it shouldn't be a paper workers' report. let them spread the word or tell them to shut up this is the same front as any other and there must be a specialist there is an aircraft specialist there is a tank specialist and there must be a media specialist who is present and participates in the development of solutions because otherwise it is difficult otherwise it is difficult and we have that that we have what if there is a vacuum, people have already said yes

, they are looking for where to find natalya, and they are looking not only in russia , not only. we are very often, well, to put it mildly, shocked by the last example - do you remember the bbc headline when the same article about valery zaluzhnyi appeared, yes. if we can look now, it appeared under two different headlines, three of them were already in english the russian-ukrainian version, all the terrorist attacks. look at the different ones, yes, the ukrainian version is the first after god in a good sense. well, how did general zaluzhny become the one who is the first after and we read the russian version of general voldemort, who is a representative of the dark forces , as we understand it? and then what? takes place in the european english version. there was simply such a neutral title that the general is asking for, like, just big, big commanders and without god and without

volunteering. i'm sorry, they always set an example for everyone from the point of view of observing journalistic standards, in fact, these are the same standards, when you follow them formally, we get the disciplines of the story about the kakhovka hpp because there was an explosion , there must have been a disaster, there are definitely parties blaming each other, well, they blame each other, well , yes that's all the same hmm timati snyder , god bless him, he is a great friend of ukraine , he wrote to the western media how are you not ashamed because you should not write like that because it is a formalism and a letter you should write about what it under control and it is beneficial to them, and when you say what russia claims, you should give an indication that they usually lie, how many times have they lied this sentence and this, and then it becomes normal, you know what

struck me most of all, my english friend sent me asking how can you allow this press into the country, the new york times , i subscribed to them, i respected this newspaper, and the humanitarian disaster in the belgorod region, you know what happened there. some buildings were damaged there , and there are even wounded people an article about what grief is bitter and the press is sad in the belgorod region, er, period. the word ukraine is mentioned there, that the war in ukraine has returned home, and this is the only time when ukraine is mentioned, that is, let's see . well, they didn't announce the collection of money, well, in fact, russia uses it. the so-called journalistic standards when for any problem you have to ask one side what happened to the other side ask the other side what happened and let the audience decide for themselves

who is right who is wrong who is lying and the russians that is, they use this, that is, they send their representatives to all kinds of talk shows who speak foreign languages, french, and english very well, and the same bbc, it invited mr. skabeev and popov several times, gave them a live broadcast, and they talk to him as if with a person who got like that, that is, i give an interview, and then when i change my mind, i go, then they started in scabeya and what are you going to do? well, that's it, they installed what will be instant lies of solid politics , it's true. it's usually more boring than a lie, because it's me i can think of that a story where i participated, when do you remember the crucified boy? yes, i was there and you know what the truth was about the board on which he was crucified. there is no electricity in the city, and nothing, and my colleague and i from the third floor

found the board and she was carried down, it's not very such an attractive picture, two not very young, not very athletic, er, men are pulling this board with a grunt, it was true and what they wrote , it's interesting, they crucified a boy on a tank , they carried it well, i'm more bright and that's why kankura expression you tell how it was and he tells his fantasies what is brighter what more interesting well, of course, not only brighter, because you need to come up with some kind of fake, some kind of lie. well, 5 minutes, we have been refuting it for the 10th year, and sometimes it takes weeks or months to dig into the truth and find why it is, find evidence why it is true, the last story, the last the story with the divers in striped swimsuits that we commanded is industrious, it seems, too, the new york times was yes yes, let's do this work that we are starting to do, we have already started doing it in europe

, they have started cleaning their information stables the experience we want to talk about with us on the link andriyuskubili from the member of the european parliament, the former prime minister of lithuania. we greet you. good evening . even to list them, they will equate you with war criminals eh well, i can only tell eh that what eh i know myself there are eh official sources so eh my colleague eh is a member of the lithuanian parliament lavremenskaya shtura that she turned to the general prosecutor's office of lithuania with a request and will initiate a case under the so-called universal jurisdiction, there is such an opportunity in our criminal code to conduct

cases against those persons who commit some crimes and in other dishes, people who live in lithuania also suffer from these criminals, and this is the universal jurisdiction right that is used to bring to justice the named propagandists of vladimir solovyov and anton olgushkabeev krasovskogo due to the fact that they, in their television appearances, incite people to commit war crimes, a crime against humanity, against humanity , and these cases are also connected to other cases that not instigated by the lithuanian prosecutor's office for all such crimes and the same

crime in which the belarusian side also participates. lukashenko's regime often from illegal deportation ukrainian children and that's what the case is instigated, we'll see what happens next. everything will happen that can lead the russian propagandists to the hague, we see. there , now, we see that there was a case against the owner of radio 1000 hills there, in a decade, when you will actually see in solovyov's oasis, when you can actually see solovyov as yulia schrocher and in nuremberg. yes, how many precedents of uranda already exist

. well, you know, from somewhere, of course, there is eh, eh, eh, eh, so far , eh, eh, to which it is difficult to answer, but that such things are being stirred up in the lithuanian the prosecutor's office they can bring criminal responsibility to these preachers, these propagandists can also be brought to the courts by the so-called criminal court and the international criminal court . how do i say this to this question, it's still difficult to answer, but it's all possible. such changes in russia after the return of russia , normal democratic development, of course

, the first question will be for the new power in the kremlin er, implement in life international law and all those who, er, by which the cases are initiated start from the same putin and skobeeva and there are others with such a tribunal and addresses . please tell me. how do you see it ? what is this story for us, when after the huge ecocide of undermining such an insolent kakhov dam, which they talked about for so long, when europe and the whole world froze for a few days and could not say that it was russia , we were very surprised by this. as you can see the effective work of russian propagandists in europe will definitely work for us. we already know how to distinguish russian

propaganda from lies and disinformation in europe, it may sometimes be more difficult for them in western europe, but here of course, the question is that this is propaganda directed at the kremlin. propaganda is directed at er russian citizens and what skobeev or there solovyev are doing. against the baltic countries, this is also the crime that should be prosecuted now in connection with what he did in connection with the kakhovka dam, of course , here is the reaction of the west.

the kremlin's side, but i think that, again , here is the reaction of the west, it should become even more clear, and i think that it is necessary to equate such and such crimes not only international laws are pursued by international tribunals, but they are equated with such crimes that could be committed well, if nuclear weapons were used, i don't see a big difference here. of nuclear weapons such that signals should be sent openly or somehow more discreetly to the kremlin

about such ecocytic crimes as were made from the kakhovsky dam of the european russian, at what stage is this process? how do you personally feel about such a document? how do national governments react to it? it is known that the baltic countries are just trying to reduce russian influence. - some practical steps in the implementation of the life of a european russian citizen in the passport

of a european russian citizen. the parliament is a big conference , because we see the strategic goal of all of us, this is the european union, after all, and we have a strategy . with a much more democratic direction of its development, such opportunities may appear. when ukraine, mmm , wins this war with the kremlin's imposition, this guy, i think that it's not long to wait, and this is an opportunity must to be used is not why we are trying to work from the russian position in order to be ready

for such possible changes in russia itself. uh, here it is already necessary, and they especially ask me, i am not an advocate of the russian position, did we, of course , we saw it? i see the potential and not so long ago. we call the berlin declaration, which begins with very clear political declarations that they support ukraine in this war . to ukraine, they are absolutely against this aggression of kremlin greece against ukraine, they are against putin

's regime, they are not for democracy, they are for the tribunal , they are for reparation for the grievances suffered by ukraine. to criticize, i think that it is good that they are united around such a position , and they are developing a strategy that needs to be done, yes, change in russia, and immediately after the change, they will confidently suggest that they can be, what are the changes of mr. andres , the last question, please tell me your recipe, we are now discussing how to fight russian propaganda in europe and how it is possible to vaccinate europe once and for all against such systemic , brazen lies.

last year, she worked in the west in western capitals quite successfully. now , this propaganda, uh, there is much less faith in this propaganda, and that's what we will say . just yesterday in the european parliament, we voted for a very important resolution, in which the european parliament for the first time spoke in favor of so that not only would ukraine become a member of nato, but so that already in vilnius somehow, in the middle of july of this year, ukraine would receive a formal invitation to become a member of nato, and 80% of all members voted for this resolution there are more than 400 european parliaments there and from different countries from different political uh-uh parties, this shows that in fact the kre propaganda already has little meaning, and just uh, here is the aggression against ukraine. it somehow opened the eyes of all western countries, i did not

understand their big mistakes in the past and when they became so dependent on russian gaza and when they kept ukraine in such a serious zone, they did not invite it either to nato or to the european union . you can thank god for putin that he really opened his eyes to everything and the erotic union to everything in the western community, and this is what i said that he has promising prospects somehow to continue his deceptions he doesn't have a wallet, let's hope so. thank you, mr. andryusha. address: skubilyus, member of the european parliament, former prime minister of lithuania . thank you for joining our broadcast. mr.

anders, thank you. thank you. we will have to fight against russian propaganda, help is coming, yes, another person has joined us, how is this, i say, or one pen , the extreme minister of great britain, boris johnson, has decided to return to journalism . i think that he will also focus on fighting against russian propaganda, which he has had enough during your policy and so on. well, i wonder what you think about what you heard, because i followed this 1+1 summit. when the russian opposition went there, you know. well, everything is ok, they accept the russian opposition, they talk to it, as p. andris said we we think and want to play it safe to help them build the future of russia, but the devil of the country is already hidden in the details, you understand, because the russian opposition is absolutely not unambiguous, it is not homogeneous, and even there the demands on themselves, especially in matters of responsibility, repentance and so on, here they are very strong

float like this, scattered, russian culture is innocent pushkin, tchaikovsky , llc, stoevsky are very important, in fact , there is no opposition in russia and there is no split. you leave like pavlovsky, he went somewhere and he ceased to be an elite , and the people sitting in brussels are very interesting to watch the cute inequality of europeans, they just sit there, they are nobody, they were the only declaration of the russian opposition that makes sense , it was the irpin declaration signed by the russian partisans and the legion of free russia they said that we are taking absolutely we are taking part in this war on the side of ukraine, we are ready to take power in russia and we are allies of

the armed forces of ukraine, that's what i understand the opposition, well, that oil was extracted there. and now he thinks about the media, he played chess, they say, not bad, but now he thinks about uh, first they had a passport, a good russian, now a passport of a european russian, they are about themselves and they demand the position of victims for themselves they they are trying to write through someone with ukrainians because they are also victims of the regime. they are also victims of this war because they left everything. today i spoke with the russian historian tamara eidelman and she said that the most terrible thing was the moment when the germans told them that you were bad for what you did during the second world war. they then turned around. so they said that we are also victims, you understand, and the russians will follow that path, said edelman, it is also convenient for them not to present themselves as victims, moreover, she

said that this generation will not ask for repentance and forgiveness from this generation and yes reparations maybe but only repentance she doesn't believe very much why because she said when, for example, the germans, after they committed there uh, they were shown films about what happened in the gas chambers there in concentration camps, uh, they think this has already happened, and did we, our nation, do it, despite everything, despite the fact that they kind of repented, and but in many heads, uh, well, she relied on research . she said that there was nothing so directly convincing that they said that we made it up, there was no such thing, you understand, after all, there was civilization in germany, and what they did wrong was well, that's what happened, and in russia, civilization, the world forced them

to put absolutely and occupation troops and the fact that they watched movies in exchange for stew i.e. this is just the way civilization is in russia. it has always been like that, they didn’t make a mistake, they were like that, they just got aggravated here because they had money. because when they were poor and received legs, soul, uh, they said that crimea should be taken away, but then we are just talking because they were busy with their problems, when they are not busy with their problems, they are climbing , that is, there can be no repentance in principle . well, it can be if, for example, they would propose a new model for the construction of that territory, but if they frankly told russia there is no such thing. that is, it is an empire. the democratic opposition cannot support the continuation of the empire’s life, but simply in a democratic form, they have already tried for 30 years there. yeltsin tried something. there , democracy, ah

, sovereignty . take as much as you want. released and so on. and that's it. and now it's stopped, that is, if they said that we give , for example, freedom to the peoples who suffered from this empire. i think that it would find some kind of response. with the belarusians. by the way, what the belarusian opposition is proposing is to wait until the ukrainians win and then ride in on our backs on white horses , as they say, there is still a way to democratically take power . they will say you are coming back, we have already prepared for you there will be free elections yes yes for the sake of justice i spoke with svitlana tikhonovskaya today and i asked a rather provocative question as to whether she is the official leader of belarus

voted by the majority could turn to the supreme commander of ukraine and ask er to help liberate belarus she said verbatim i don't rule it out you will watch this interview you will watch this interview youtube channel nataliya moseichuk 10th monday courageous statements i will include these words will fly out and you know for her it's courage, it's a oleksienko, you have to be friends with ukrainians, you have to live because of them the husband is still in prison and she 's talking about it, well, she told me that it's not only because my husband and that's why that there are many others other political prisoners in the same way now under torture in the er-e belarusian hangars, you understand these military belarusians what we have in them, they have the faith of vtykhanov no, i'm sorry, i can

tell you, watch the two parts of our conversation, we 'll talk about this is what i heard when a russian political scientist said that he was talking to one of my elementals who now own one of the tv channels , and so in their conversation, one asked the other, tell me if ukraine wins, what are we going to do with the heads of the russians, and this tv manager answered that we should either turn off the tv for three months or fill it with other content and you'll see how the russians will change. let's think about how much propaganda is quickly washed out of people's minds . and what needs to be done in order for us to do what ukraine can do and what russia can do. should do but as a society that survived the war in a society that has passed and must pass a certain period of this repentance and recognition and acceptance of its guilt, that is where

to build this entire ideological and media component so that we can breathe more easily through the wall, i still want we too after during the breaks we talked about what is happening in the world , that they are really wrong, everyone is mistaken, i am talking about the united states and asia. i am sorry and about the african countries that we saw today. outbreaks , we are worried about our relatives and we are worried about our help forces against air defense are holding the heavenly front they protect us and we must protect them do not shoot and do not post on the network photos and videos of air defense work