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, dear friends, we are returning to the airwaves, this is our final hour of the first part of the marathon with andrii seichuk, we will then return to the airwaves at 2:00 p.m. well, for now , we will talk about our sky and how protected it is, hennadiy hasan, president of the all-ukrainian aviation organization , the association of private pilots and aircraft owners, contact us, mr. hennadiy , good morning, good morning, glory to ukraine and i wanted glory to the heroes and everything else, we agree, mr. gennadiy, yesterday, kyiv region was again under a missile attack, daggers were destroyed, calibers were destroyed, and putin, that is, khutin, meanwhile, said that five patriots were destroyed, and in general, there are

none . cavalka he probably said all 100,000 500 billion million five months that are in ukraine they all destroy that they destroyed to things, there was such a moment, which also shows a lot of things that sell light, how putin in general learns about information , he said, yes, i say yesterday, i thought about the fact that the bad jew zelensky asked to bring me a selection of materials. he doesn't have one, he doesn't use the internet at all, he doesn't even read wikipedia, because he thinks that he writes it. this is a round for sure. well, if wikipedia were russian and it would definitely be written by the fsb, that's understandable. that

's why he should think otherwise. means that his knowledge about real events well, it is unlikely that someone could have reported there today. we have been stabbed there already with 13 daggers, well, all of them were shot down by patriots. well, you know, a very interesting question was raised, an interesting question was raised because in general, some quite interesting things are happening in ukraine and regarding the use of anti-aircraft power in ukraine, because we have to remember , let's not forget, what started our war with the means of the soviet union, which had certain m-m coefficients for the destruction of targets, and then, except for airplanes began to destroy missiles and began to m.m. air defense of ukraine is unique in general. and i also want to tell you my personal opinion that the air defense center is quite effective. or you can say it differently

, the most effective means is the one that controls the air defense of the central part of ukraine and for by many indicators that it exceeds the indicators, that is, the management of the creation of conditions for the management of air defense significantly raised the level of destruction of air targets, in some cases it is higher than the equipment, that is, the people who work on this you know, the enthusiasts of this and that business have personal friends there who are tangential, very tangential deviations who told me a couple of things from those permitted that everything is so well done yes from the possibilities yes from those available that the target destruction coefficients at some points exceed the capabilities of the technology itself

, you know that it's called i take my hat off to the officers in charge of this system. now , during the offensive. well, many people write about it that one way or another . they need to work on demining all the time, well, if they try to prevent it from being done, what slows down the offensive, or do we have anything to do so that the air defense on the front line is also a powerful force , more, even more equipment, and more with er, portable complexes of anti-aircraft complexes of defense - this will lead to an increase in the number of downed aircraft, in addition to everything except portable complexes, it is clear that we must have means to cover the troops

, there will have to be more of them, germany handed over to us anti-aircraft complexes, but there is never much of this equipment, there is always a lot of it, there is always a shortage of it, well, it is in all the armies of the world, and in particular, during such a war in ukraine , sweden approved the training of ukrainian pilots on fighter jets, what about you you can tell them and what it means, when the training will be conducted, when they can greet our pilots on those gripends and protect our skies. situation, it makes me smile, you know, because look, sweden isn’t flying on f16s again, someone wants to teach

our pilots, and look, the swedes want to learn on flying airplanes, and someone wants to teach other countries on f16s, but a political decision to this day there is no political solution or other countries say, you know, we have a steel one standing there at the airfield, you all already dream and wish for an f-16 well, we will give you a couple of them here and you will be happy and you know i always have a question as to how how much people ask me and i always always ask ma- er, i answer ma- almost with the same , someone in life had one of those people who are now waving flags for m-16, well, american cars and you need to buy something and in order to buy something some kind of spare part from a larger one, that is, now it’s a little easier, and there, for example, 10 years ago you had to write to friends in america or a company that implements spare parts and those other spare parts will come from america, look, i want to remind

other people who don’t know the situation a couple not a couple of years ago, more than 10 years ago, poland bought 36 pieces of f-16, look at the 36 pieces, it cost them 3.2 billion dollars of money. yes , with the coin race , 3.2 billion was paid to the united states of america, and they bought the wrong ones for the planes that were stationed there and for them it was repaired, everything was built, factories for repairing engines were built in poland than others and a lot more from the fact that i know exactly what was there and in our country people are running with flags about f16 so i want to say that f 16 which they offer block 30 there and that's all, i've already

said this a couple of times on your program a good plane 30 years ago or 25 years ago, if they had offered and said that we will give you in 16 block-70 o super how many pieces 100 200 300 and now i told you 36 pieces how much did it cost e poland and maintained and maintenance therefore to date -e i see, and it would be very balanced, balanced, reasonable, for example, as i repeat, the modernization of mig-29 there is su-27 up to the level of block 70. and then i started talking about the factories that repair engines in poland, and we have factories that repair engines for the types of aircraft that i just mentioned called is in ukraine and we must realize that we need equipment that we will not only say we have it in 16, you can see it there, it is standing there covered because for it to fly is a different conversation. and we have equipment that is

quite significantly modernized by seeds of foreign, that is, weapons that are provided to us by our allies, that are our own planes, i emphasize from dan. we do not have to ask anyone for permission or agree to certain military actions . supreme commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine this is quite a serious thing for us, for everyone, for ukraine, in particular, i wanted to say something else about what we said today about how well the air defense system of the zno worked and really complimented the deserved ones, but it is also important for sure to talk about how in kyiv there is a world-famous space engineer and such

a popularizer of science and a writer in particular here is what mr. zubrin is like in america now and here he is actually me now i will now show robert zubrin, i can show him in his picture with the mask on. so it was clear who he is . and this is mr. zubrin, for example, he is an american. of course , yes, he is in kyiv. behind him, because he is such a human person, he is very, very well-known in the world , he appears in many popular science shows, and now he is in kyiv. he is very supportive of ukraine, and he was actually a witness to this same attack yesterday. and here he is now in kyiv who knows kyiv it can

recognize where this is the end of khreshchatyk and here is what he actually writes. now i will write twitter . he says that yesterday we had an attack from the air and the russians hit kiev with six hypersonic dagger ballistic missiles and six cruise missiles and they were all shot down by the ukrainian army using patriots and he says that he was most surprised that there were few ukrainians, even with uh, if they were eventbolbert, damn it. well, what if they were too lazy to even go down to the warehouses and the majority were just busy with their own cafes are full of business, people are standing like uh, shopping at traffic stops. and he says that everything was completely different until he didn’t ride a bicycle and uh, he says that those people who doubted that ballistic and

peach missiles can be to shoot down and that petri can do it, it's time for them to take off their hats and eat some more. this is what the very famous space engineer robert zubr says about the comments i watched yesterday of the representatives of those countries who came to ukraine yesterday, i want to tell you they probably when their expressions are very do you remember the three cabbages of capuchin ? there were three cabbages . there was something like that. yes, yes, yes. well, we have to, we have to, we have to, our country has to, our representatives of the foreign

ministry of foreign affairs have to work also to make sure that they hear and see and say not what someone is whispering to them, somewhere there. thank you, mr. gennady, for the conversation, gennady khazan is the president of the all-ukrainian aviation organization, the association of private pilots and aircraft owners was with us. well, next we will talk about nataliya moseichuk from spartak saturday . why did she decide to interview a person with a dubious reputation, or was this interview really for the purpose of -e hmm drive him into a dead end or was it actually complimentary our alina chechelna artogladochka she dissected this interview into small pieces we will talk about it with her soon there are discounts on bionorm 10% in pharmacies

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the south of the country, in the east and in the center, so please do not ignore the signals go to the shelter well, in the meantime, while the anxiety still hasn't reached us, we will try to return with lena , a chechen art viewer who spent her time to watch and analyze the interview that nataliya moseichuk, the host at home , for some reason decided to take on spartak on saturday a person with a dubious reputation. well, i don't know what you saw on the eve of this interview, she made such an announcement where she recorded it just for our viewers to show what they watched. i just watched it for myself, this is a story from a small screen, where spartak saturday , nataliya moseichuk is standing next to him and here i imagine when you are spartak saturday after the scandal of everything that is going on here you are invited to an interview by a well-known presenter in ukraine , who also has a different attitude of people towards her and i

did not see that he somehow got scared when he overheard the conversation that this conversation there will be some, well, in the end, the audience will also be offered stories to watch, uh, this is a short form that is recorded for social networks, such as an announcement, maybe you will see that spartak saturday was confused, just scared of that terrible conversation with the toothy journalist , host nataliya moseichuk, let's see, we could keep quiet like budanov and this the same thing happened but we will not be silent we have a big interview spartak saturday nataliya moseichuk watch it soon subscribe to two channels it turned out there he continued his conversation yes for her money it's a pity that we interrupted it video but then there was an interview, an interview not for a few seconds and not for a few minutes, what did you do

? what did you see in this interview, lena , was it so devastating, or did it break spartak's saturday into molecules? did she show him her teeth? oh, i can't say what exactly she showed him, she showed him her smile, her affection and her great sympathy, because ah, in general, the interview was a joke, what do we call a warm bath, she would have arranged for him even more there still such a foam she was in that bath, and well, it was different, it was very comfortable, it was a sport on such a saturday , in general, this interview certainly caused a lot of resonance. i will say that spartak saturday 2 months ago, his er, well, another psychologist, ilya

poludionny, er, did an interview about him and in fact accused him with a huge number of arguments of the investigation, the video investigation consisted of five parts and accused him of fraud that in him there is no education in the fact that he talks about a lot of all kinds of things, and by this it damages the reputation of ukrainian psychologists in general, to whom ukrainians are not very used to going anyway, and here natalka mosiychuk calls him, that is, a person with a completely destroyed reputation if we are talking about an institute of reputation that has well, it is unlikely that such people need to be called on the air. and if they are called, it is of course for a genre called hartok, that is, for a tough conversation, and here there was no such conversation, and of course people began to think why, why, why natalka moseichuk

she called such an absolutely tainted character to her and spoke to him very kindly and expressed all kinds of support , saying that he was being attacked by haters from evil, these are haters, so they are wrong, and hmm, some people saw in this desire just to get more views regardless what kind of reaction will be negative or positive ? and i saw at least two political points in this . this is my subjective opinion. er, some non-government party, its representatives came and offered him money so that he would campaign for er this political party at his speeches. or maybe against its competitors, i will say that a-ah in spartak saturday earlier together with my friend and colleague e-

they did not go to such performances, they recorded very popular podcasts about psychology, and they say that through these podcasts , spartak saturday should campaign. analysis of our society, what state are we in? he said that, in his opinion, we are only at the beginning of this war, everything is ahead of us, that is, he scared people a little bit, then he immediately said that everything will be fine if we continue to have a strong ruler. he seems to have said so the ruler is somehow not used to calling presidents that way, and he said that we will all be ok if those who are now will be the rulers, that is, it seems to me that spartak saturday was called so that he

would first campaign for the current government and hinted and somehow slandered the competitors of the current government, it's quite sad, we are now talking about stap's reputation institute, but the question also concerns the reputation itself, for example natalka mosiychuk, with whom i once worked on the fifth channel, and the question is how much we can call it journalism, if we call it journalism, then, in principle, we can easily call it spartacus on saturday, or whatever, this sips and psychologist, well, that is, the question is, in principle, is it important to have some competencies or it is also important to have some moral codes of ethics in order to be called, for example, politicians, or even more journalists , colleagues, if i have one second, i just want to tell you that it is important to tell you, here, in general, you need to understand what audience it is all

designed for. because if a person came with some political messages for whom it is intended, because well, who can you trust sports on such a saturday after such a huge scandal, but still there are people , a huge number of people who do not know about this scandal at all. i think it is possible among our viewers are like that, because people who have not delved too much into this scandal and you will just listen. look, what a nice guy, everyone really attacks him and will listen to him, after all, it is designed for a certain number of people, and because palche , there are a lot of all kinds of messages on youtube right now wrote political technologist volodymyr petrov and his colleague and presenter serhiy ivanov, they support him in every possible way, they stand up for him and it seems to me that such a saturday yes yes yes they support spartak saturday they have supported him before and natalka mosiychuk supported him me

it seems that this is not the case, not only. it seems to me that at spartak saturday he was hired as such a bright speaker who can, in principle, attract the trust of a certain number of people, and that's how he is. the interview did not take place simply for the sake of hype and views on youtube. that is, what about some election campaign , we can see some new faces on saturday. i think so, especially when political experts are there , political colleagues are there, journalists are often there they are talking about the fact that the lion is left among us, the electorax, the electorate, let's say, which is still a little bit closer to russia, and it needs to be somehow involved, and it seems that some kind of political force is being prepared, which will contain speakers who will talk to these people, but i think spartak subo fits in there just very well and he is paired with mr. povoroznyuk. i don't know if he doesn't suit

him, probably also with whom natalka moseychuk wrote an interview, and it also looked like uh-uh quite so approvingly a-uh pathetic uh-uh praising this gentleman povoroznyaka and there probably, arestovych will also be added, although arestovych said that everything will be over in two or three weeks. spartak saturday says that everything will be for a long time. well, yes. because he had to scare a little people to say , look, everything is ahead of us, everything may be bad, but if they are the authorities are normal people, the ones we have now, then everything will be fine with us, there is no need to be afraid, this is very common in psychology, uh, this method is to intimidate and then promise that nothing terrible will happen if certain conditions uh are voiced. well, i think that us actually

to prepare for the fact that, well, if the election campaign had already started a long time ago, it seems to me, but it will intensify , we will see some such moments, i think it will be a very long time , like spartaka saturday, because, uh, after all , the institute has a reputation. we are still working not so good. as i would like, to put it mildly, and various characters, even if they get into scandals, even very strong ones, they can sit out for a very short time and then they either climb somewhere else themselves or start to be used by others people, that's why we have to fight this somehow. thank you, olena, for the conversation. thank you for your analysis of the interview and spartaka saturday and the explanation of what is wrong. you can read it on the media detector by means of arguments. sparta on saturday and on the waist moseichuk thank you for being with us for these three hours, but andriy sychuk and i

will return at 2 p.m. and i hope that you will want to spend another three hours with us because there is still a lot of time to discuss us , stay with the press glory to ukraine this the verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko. i congratulate everyone, today is an unusual day in ukraine, because today the leaders of seven african countries came to kyiv with a peace plan . the leaders of the south african republic of egypt, senegal, uganda, zambia and the republic of