[000:00:00;00] it's early and they're talking about the fact that uh, iran stands from the uh date of creating a nuclear bomb literally weeks and months, well, uh, as of now , so far there is no uh, data that would indicate that uh, iran has accumulated enough the amount of enriched uranium in order to have a nuclear bomb. in general, i want to pay attention to the doctrine of the actual doctrine , which at one time opposed the presence of nuclear weapons, that is, they are just based on the official iranian doctrine of the islamic revolution, if they oppose the presence of nuclear weapons. and i have i get the impression, of course, this situation can change here, there can be no such unequivocal assessments but as of now

, they continue to rather blackmail the threat of a nuclear bomb than, uh, they want to get it in the end because uh, exactly, they cannot predict as their lead the world to sin- will lead with him further yes i.e. what will happen after they carry out er explosion er well er this nuclear explosion er demonstrating the presence of their bomb i.e. what will happen in v and this this circumstance i think in a significant measures determines their behavior, i.e. they are more likely to consider it as a weapon of deterrence or a threat of deterrence than the self-development of a nuclear bomb, but the situation can change, the same as you see what is happening with putin, it can also happen with khamenei and s- and raisi with others because they in principle, they are all

made from roughly the same dough, i asked if russia in particular is pushing for more such quick steps in order to agree on a greater imbalance around the world around nuclear weapons, because the russians are there again he returns there for a publication by kargan for literally a couple of days about what is there, it is the weapon of god. we are there. we have to show the americans that we really have red lines there, we need to scare them . to be coordinated well, i don't know about the coordination of karaganov's article, of course, and what's happening in iran. and it seems to me that it's simple and budgetary, some kind of processes that are taking place, but definitely i understand that the americans are not profitable, he is on the verge of spending

resources are now on two fronts, and that is why iran is using this, that is, it wants to achieve certain concessions for itself, precisely by threatening the possibility of starting a full-scale war in the middle east, eh, but iran is increasingly clearly demonstrating such new technological developments , it seems there. a week ago, because they showed there a new ballistic missile, which is better than a dagger, as they explained, and i have a question, given your knowledge of these demonstration steps. these are more likely propaganda actions on the part of the leadership of iran, or has iran really provided during this time such a certain technological and industrial progress in the creation of new types of weapons or in copying samples that partially got to him there from other countries and what do you think is happening, well, it is impossible not to say about what, after all, in iran, the iranians were able to achieve

serious serious successes yes, in the development of missile weapons, the question is, how effective will these weapons be? they don’t stand still, they also create new weapons that will intercept, including similar missiles, so all this will be, uh, we will be able to assess the quality of these weapons only during their actual use, and that’s why, but yes, they are masters at this, but and they are masters of pr and lies and everything else, that is, in this sense, they, like their own , said that war is a way of deception, everything else.

these are modernized shaheeds, i don’t know what they will be there, they are called from the american side, there is a colossal capacity of 6,000 drones per year, that is, 400 of these shaheeds per month, this information that will spread through american development in e-e in american publications, or should it be an impetus for the strengthening of sanctions. should this be pressure on the authorities and the wound, but once again teresa evaluates her future well, and keeps within certain er-e frameworks, what do you think about this , you know, i have great doubts that they soberly evaluate their future i.e it is quite possible that you understand at some point when you become a part of some other alliance. that is, you are strongly attached to russia, then you get the feeling that the defeat of russia means the defeat of all; remember recently, e. koshinyan, the prime minister of armenia, after returning from moscow, talked about

that he cannot imagine how russia will lose, because then armenia will die, that is, and something similar is obviously happening to the iranians, that is , to at least part of their elite, which has seriously tied itself to the russians, they evaluate this war already through the prism of their security and dangers that will not be spared for them. so this is such a psychological moment in relation to, let's say, the factory. well, they would, if it wasn't the first drone factory, mr. serhiyevich, you better know how many drones drone factories have been built in russia, including with the help of other middle eastern countries yes, that is, here, well, yes, this is a danger for us, the situation here is this, that is, it will be in the 24th year, but this is another question . of course, if we introduce additional sanctions and limit the possibility of supplying systems

for these drones, then it is obvious that they are this plant it will not reach industrial capacity, but in the end, well, anything can happen with this plant, yes, it can explode, in the end , something else may not happen, well, that is, i want to say that this is a threat, it exists, it is a real cooperation between iran and russia in this direction is quite powerful, the iranians are not going to stop this because, as i said, they started for some reason, some of them, why do they see this as an existential threat, that's why something needs to be done about it, and obviously not only ukraine, but also americans and europeans for others, that is, this is a question. and in the near future, more and more will appear on

the first e-e, on the first column . fighter jets 135 and the question arises whether israel will calmly look at the strengthening of the aviation components of the missile nuclear force there or will it still act more decisively when you feel that a certain number of steps are already going beyond the limits ah well, obviously the rhetoric of israel quite so um let’s say serious uh they are ready to use weapons as they claim uh they won’t look back at the americans if there is no threat at the same time i don’t really imagine how it could happen to

attack iran without uh the direct involvement of the americans, the british and others, that is, in any case, this is more like, well, such preparation, and emotional and informational preparation for a possible war from the morning, and in parallel with these wounds, of course, strikes at the warehouses and at the same workshops of the production of those the same of the drones themselves in syria , that is , these are the targets that are within the range of israeli air defense and israeli aircraft . in the event that there is a conflict with such a cold, yes, or it is possible to say semi-cold, and it will go completely hot . well, for now, i think that there are no such

ideas. obviously, certain tricks exist recently. this year , joint israeli-american maneuvers were held, and there were also means the possibility of joint strikes on enemy targets was also worked out. let's not forget that the situation in syria can get complicated, because there is , after all, northeastern syria . attacked by shiite groups, which are essentially iranian proxies, and this can also lead to escalation. that is, there are several directions that can lead to the emergence of a hot conflict

. i would like to remind our viewers that on the air the class of the press or ihor semigolos, the director of the center of middle eastern studies, and then to another one that is also related to iranian prospects, positive or negative or now rather negative , oleksandr los, former head of the antonov concern, doctor of technical sciences, now captain of the armed forces of ukraine, which takes care of the future directions of the development of the armed forces, oleksandr. i congratulate you. i wish you health and glory. glory to the heroes of ukraine . i would like to ask you about iran, but because from another point of view, in fact, ivan is under sanctions, but he also creates means of impression and unmanned complexes , what conclusions should we draw from this, that sanctions do not work and that the political will of individual leaders, as we see, can be stronger than

the actual external restrictions, we repeat with you just once, what is military-technical cooperation? it's really political will - it's all about politics and sanctions, which are always talked about, these are the sanctions of the united states of america, first of all, then the sanctions of the european union, but let's say what does high-precision weapons consist of? first of all, my colleague, microelectronics, optoelectronics, composite materials, that's what concerns microelectronics , it's from that that the word micra comes from, that any microcircuit can be hidden in a pocket and, in principle, it's hard to imagine how you can block international traffic, let's say excuse me for such a comparison, but just like trikes, drug trafficking is international, so is the traffic of electronic components of microcircuits. unfortunately, it is physically impossible to block it, so it is true when they say that the sanctions of the united states are working. so this means that the american company

and its affiliates do not supply microelectronic components to the collective, let's call it, regimes or terrorist regimes, but unfortunately, this does not mean that by means of the development of intelligence of those countries about which it is impossible to introduce north korea to the russian federation at an early age. unfortunately, this traffic is not covered up, and what you and i said about last year, when some e-e commentators said that russia had run out of cruise ballistic missiles components, you and i are questioning it, unfortunately, this is the last eyes. here are our extreme events. i'm sorry, they emphasize that such traffic. unfortunately , it still exists, and i mentioned that in ukraine there was a lot of cooperation with iran . we remember that at one time, ukraine cooperated on the iran 140 project, which actually consisted in the fact that

on the territory of iran, you were gathering a civilian plane iran 140, which was actually a copy of the ukrainian aircraft an-140, and just a few days ago, the iranian publications showed that something was rising in the air iranian plane a ramp plane is a military transport plane that actually now will perform military functions, and the question arises whether this is an echo of ukrainian-iranian cooperation 20 years later or is it the enlightenment of iranian engineers who decided, after all, on the basis of work with ukraine, to make their own military transport plane , what is going on, like many of the military, i ask you never to use the word expert, i am not an expert , i am a scientist, necessarily an employee, that's how i always say that you have to treat your enemies with

respect, er, iranian engineers, they are quite professional, it is enough just to look at the samples of missile weapons that they manufacture. but in this particular case , the venerable mr. serhiyevich fully supports you. this is really an echo of the so -called ukrainian-iranian cooperation, which, well, people like me, ukrainian moderate statesmen always caused at least spanish shame. i came to dp anton when it was already like a contract and it happened and happened and i know very well how it happened and the documentation for the framework version the plane has already been in development for the official 18 years that i have been working. well, i recognize the beautiful an-140 t plane, which is now on your screen in the air . how did it happen here

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wallet, and informed means armed watch the economic news project with andrii yanitsky on weekdays at 8:10 on espresso, we continue our conversation, my guest is oleksandr los, a doctor of technical sciences, now a captain in the armed forces, oleksandr i would like to continue our such iranian topic, always on the fact that you are currently relevant to those samples of weapons that our military is analyzing from which the enemy uses against us, including these martyrs, can we say that during this year the shahids began to improve and they became more dangerous. if so, in what direction improvement of this enemy equipment is taking place, first of all, i want to remind you to emphasize that according to the materials of your publication, it was already said that shehet was still 131st, that 136th or, as the russians claim, garan, it is a very modern, perfect, even perfected type of weapon, no matter who it is unpleasant in

in ukraine, it is quite high-tech. it is put into flow production, and since i really had the unpleasant opportunity to hold its elements in my hands, from the design and technological point of view, this is a serious serial product in which direction it is being perfected, they have technical means of combat use, uh, they are equipped with elements of interaction with each other, that is, they can fly in battle formations, they have a protected interference-resistant satellite communication for satellite navigation, the plan is made of it in general from the most modern composite materials, the engine is a copy and very carefully executed copy i will not name the engine of which country. that is, we are dealing with an unpleasant matter

with high-tech and quite high- precision weapons when we talk about systematic methods of countering this threat, you and i talked about this topic about six months ago. is it possible to say that some progress is currently being made in the creation of countermeasures, either on the basis of national developments or in cooperation with foreign partners, which of these ways do you think are the most optimal? can give the most expected quick result by repeating the same thing that unfortunately in ukraine there is no structural structural materials for aviation and there is also no own production of microelectronics components so on the current path is exclusively the interaction of cooperation with leading foreign partners and our designs should be as simple as possible from

the point of view of the neck production of the planar well microelectronics it must be involved this is my recipe and even i will tell you what i saw or australian products from sorry the planer from cardboard, but this is exactly the ingenious way of production, for example, from the same aviation plywood, if anyone wouldn’t laugh, or even from some plastics, like those from which plastics are made, excuse me, bottles for soda it would be a great way for us to quickly master the mass production of uh let's say weapons to return the cotton to the original territory and uh our conversation our program i started by mentioning rammstein about the plans for the surplus of our air force on the f16 fighter about the training of our military, but in parallel with that

, other thematic messages also appear that also concern the strengthening of our aviation, first of all, the minister of defense mentions other countries and the ambassador of ukraine in australia says that he provides a request to the ministry of defense of this country to assess the real condition of the f-18 aircraft that we have been equipping the australian army , the australian army, can we talk about what is really happening ? the country needs other, more powerful aircraft that can really create a comprehensive airspace protection system

, what do you think about the initiatives regarding australia? of a large-scale invasion just before the f18 f 15 planes and because i repeat once again for the audience that uh, the real line of fighters uh, at its core should be heavy tactical fighters like the 15 and well, before we had it 127 because this as a heavy fighter, it has the advantage that it can , for the same combat radius, but lift uh-uh or 1.5 times more weapons or have or have more combat radius than the actual f18 plane from the beginning uh-uh in larah i talked about it knowing that it exists in australia, they are available, and such targets have been talked about for a long time, and that i i will remind you that even with the beginning of the anti-terrorist operation, back in 2014, even then, canada declared that

it was ready, well, at that time it was about the sale. there will be disputes already last year, because i was approached by various representatives of the authorities of the ministry of defense, and i reminded the aircraft about this, and then they said that it was still the 16th, it is more accessible, has more spare parts, but they tried to adopt tactical and technical characteristics but here you are showing now just taking off from the aircraft carrier, i reminded them that this aircraft is almost no worse than the r16 in terms of performance, but its airframe is much stronger and its structure is much stronger due to the fact that it is just fuel, viewers , here are the weapons. a fighter is a platform that must carry weapons, so the f16, f15 and f18 fighters are in the australian version, these are universal fighters capable of working both in

the air for conquest and support of politics , and on the ground, that is, equipping with weapons air, ground, yes, uh, again, there are 18 of them that are available in australia, they are brought to the class of work that is just universal , and under the condition of their restoration, since i understand that the planes are also quite old , you can’t say old, you have to say just old they require maintenance and restoration, but they are not technically prepared to work with any modern available american types of weapons. takes place in ukraine, there the german company rain metal opens a joint venture in ukraine, 51% belongs to a german company

, which is going to create a factory for the repair and production of new armored vehicles there, then a concert of bies system enters ukraine, which installs the entire line of military equipment there , including fish systems of components for the f-35 and the question arises whether now is still the time to expand such defense industrial cooperation with such a giant as boeing considering that one way or another in the aviation segment we are just coming to those samples that we mentioned earlier, i will add for your information for the audience that 16 is today's loki martin, the former jenners , and indeed the f15 and yes f18 are airplanes now corporations were well, actually, i will say without e

, as they say, pathos, that uh, i was forced to leave dp antonov precisely because, as it is now noted in some documents, as an american spy, he contributed to the opening of assembly production of aircraft in ukraine at first, because he and seven. but let me remind you that both the state department of the united states of america and the boeing corporation itself responded back in 2019 to our request, which i personally took care of. themselves to ukraine, that is why i believe that it was extremely appropriate for the current political establishment to continue the already tormented

thoughts of my colleagues from the corporation to god regarding planes 18 and 15, of course, to talk and plan the assembly of a light fighter of the seven or whatever it will be called already in usrfoss and it is also necessary to cooperate with the corporation walking northergram and other leading companies , well directly. now we are talking about the united states of america. this is a british american collection, well, otherworldly ryan maple armored vehicles, but i still welcome you . i would like to remind you that the creation of joint ventures should take place. between existing enterprises, specialists of the ukrainian defense-industrial complex and leading western corporations, so that it is not a competent gate that we here organized assembly sites in ukraine, we forget about our own, as taras hryhorovych shevchenko said to others, learn from others

, but do not shy away from our own, we must support and develop our own because we are our we have to be sovereign with you, i'm not talking about impersonation in the sewers no sovereignty - it means that we are also engaged in our own, mr. oleksandr, thank you very much for these important emphasis and important comments, and i will remind our viewers that the espresso channel is on the air, because oleksandra los is a doctor of technical sciences, currently a captain of the armed forces, who takes care of the future directions of the development of the armed forces of ukraine. so we can talk about the fact that today iran and the alliance with the russian federation of this country poses a threat to our security the question is that we find a worthy answer to these challenges relying on cooperation with european american defense companies by creating modern models that will protect our country and