[000:00:00;00] they were just as easily lost and there were examples when the land market worked there for literally two years, it seems 94-96, people bought their plots of land, and the prices there reached $ 1,000 1,500. a visit is worth absolutely. it was all lost and they were left without, well, roughly speaking, without land or without anything, that is, when otaki is not , no, not prepared, absolutely people receive funds, it is a good ball, and for them, it does not end in the same way as this cycle, well, with metals, yes, ukraine there from the fourth to eight years, we soared in terms of gdp, in fact, to the current level. back then, although the prices were much lower then, that is, it is a much higher level of income, and well, there is no margin of safety , nothing, neither according to the institutes nor according to the way we learned

we did not often work on productivity. here, too, the task is that the funds are international, so they may come , they may not come. otherwise, there is no way in our country, so far, it is domestic only on domestic capital. if we focus on this, then we will be many times behind our nearest neighbors, although we are not lagging behind either in terms of education or human capital. we started our conversation with you about the consequences of undermining the kakhov hpp, how it will affect the economic structure of the kherson region - this is the region that was one of the leaders in the supply of agricultural products to the markets of virtually

all of ukraine, now we have lost this supplier, some farmers were able to save their products. personally, today i saw an impressive video of how in the kherson region a farmer dug out a huge canal with his own hands with a tractor in order to restrain the flow of water so that this water did not flood the melons so that the watermelons survived, mr. grigory, but not everyone was so lucky and not everyone was able to do it to do, i understand that kherson oblast will need a certain period to recover, and a lot of people have lost their homes , a lot of people will lose their jobs because of these consequences, which region can temporarily pull it on itself, so here is the piece agricultural supplies, as i relied on kherson oblast, now summer is in full swing, it is unrealistic to sow new agricultural land because the areas are occupied, which region could help kherson oblast in this matter now, only in the bridge, a profile agrarian

issue no, i will not answer because it is agrarian or because we do not have there are alternatives now, it’s simple enough, it’s an import , that is, close the import of some category, yes. last year, the conditions of the deposit, they calmly came from turkey, and the price was the price for them , it’s clear, it’s clear, what exactly the region will not take place here, western regions, western news, probably the nearest thing to mykolaiv , uh, well, in the dnipropetrovsk region, they are probably. after the war, after the hostilities, the countries went in different ways

, some carried out global nationalization there, let's take the same great britain, others went for privatization, let's take, for example , bosnia and herzegovina, there are different success stories, in your opinion, which case is more suitable for modern ukraine, look at us. well, what could be nationalized now, what is the content. we don’t have any such unprofitable enterprises in the private sector that need to be nationalized in order to simply preserve them. they were critically important. and then they were conditionally nationalized there only or for five prophets or until the end of martial law, you should also not forget about this, a car manufacturer in kremenchug, yes, from the forex group, and ukrnafta, if you remember exactly, yes, this is only for the period of the war

states for greater and better management there, because they were tied to the ministry of defense, it's more like military facilities, and to say that we have such a problem that there is a cascade of bankrupt bronze-franchise enterprises urgently and it is necessary to introduce some kind of administration for this, well , there is no such thing there is a problem that the state is now roughly two-thirds of the economy before the war. it was one-third, that is, the private sector, but it really collapsed, collapsed twice in dollar equivalent - there is this problem. and it is clear that after the war, there are two of them the question is because you will have to increase certain budgets anyway, you will have to increase less military expenditures, social expenditures will have to be revised because , well, pensions or social benefits are frozen there, roughly speaking, they will need to be increased at a breakneck pace and after the war

, surely, after all, there will be infrastructural ones high expenses, first of all, the infrastructure of recovery, the second is social, certain infrastructure for the regions, which is now where it is less financed, that is, state expenses will definitely remain high, and here in the private sector will need to integrate itself again into various state-owned state projects for reconstruction in a different way, well, that is, the transition period of such a public-private partnership still awaits us, and only for sure there, yes, in a more long-term perspective after the war , we will again let's go back to the fact that the basis of the economy will be the private sector , only a small part will be redistributed through the budget to education, medicine , pensions, etc. we understand that after the end of the war and after our victory, we will need to build the economy virtually from scratch

. we will need to attract investors. please tell us, based on your analysis, based on your observations, what can attract an investor here in ukraine after the war, what industry can be promising and the numbers are not such you know, with a locomotive, look at two absolutely, the first one is a pda because the favorite weapon that you have now, where do you have it, ukraine tested in ukraine, it is already highly recognized, and the second one took place in our country, well, really, an exhibition of weapons of all kinds well, for the majority of manufacturers in the world, everyone has somehow proven himself, someone has taken off, someone has shown that this weapon is absolutely not unsuitable . and the anti-tank missile system is definitely plus the rearmament of the european union, just to compare our gdp. last year is 180 billion, which is approximately 1% of the gdp of the european union and and is actually equal

to their defense e-e budget, that is, if they increase it to two to two and a half percent of gdp , at least a sufficient level. contracts for the rearmament of the european union. that is, it is probably the most own piece that can be after the war. the second point is cheap labor. well, these f-factories, yes, that is , their inclusion in the industrial complex, but not military, but civilian, there are assembly shops and other areas here these are the two key points, mr. grigoriyu. thank you very much for your answers . grigory kuzurza, economist ukraine, economist outlook was with us and explained what awaits us or may await us in the short and long

term. ruined cities and villages, thousands of flooded houses, tens of thousands of ruined lives, ukraine will feel the consequences of the kakhovsky disaster. it will not be a year until we recover, we will need more than one million dollars , agriculture is the most affected , and the national bank of ukraine predicts that the terrorist attack by the russian occupiers on the kakhovsky hpp will cause an additional contribution to of this year's inflation, we will tell you more about the consequences of the dam blow-up below. kakhovskaya hpp was built back in 1950, and on october 18, 1955 solemnly opened for the construction of the station, 1,100 cars, 30 excavators, 75 crawler and gantry cranes, 100 bulldozers, all shells and 14 steam locomotives were used, 12,000 people performed the work, all these works were canceled by the russian occupiers , who blew up the dam on the night of june 6, the high water

completely swallowed 9,573 houses, 2,189 were partially flooded officially confirmed the death of six people, another 35 went missing in the kherson region, 46 settlements were flooded , 32 of them in the territory controlled by ukraine, 14 in the temporarily occupied 3:1 settlement suffered from high water in the mykolaiv region , 30% of the protected fund is in danger of disappearing, the nizhnyodniprovskyi park was completely flooded, where there were 120 valuable species of flora and fauna. currently, about 1,200 hectares of the territory of the kinbun peninsula have already been flooded; 50,000 hectares of ukrainian forests have been flooded, and at least half of them may

die; the total area of ​​flooded areas of protected areas, among which the black sea biosphere reserve may exceed 120,000 hectares in total due to the explosion of the kakhova hydroelectric power plant, 160,000 birds and more than 20,000 wild animals are at risk of death in the flooded areas , deer, boars and roe deer, badgers, weasels nested, red-lettered birds settled in terrible settlements, this is all russian antimony destroyed after the russian terrorist attack, dead fish and animals, hundreds of tons of grease, garbage from cesspools, chemicals , pesticides from the fields, as well as russian mines are drifting down the dnieper into the black sea, high water washes out cemeteries and cemeteries, it will affect all marine inhabitants from plankton to cetaceans, the consequences of poisoning the sea will also be felt by other countries of the black sea region, then the dirty water will reach romania, bulgaria, turkey in one form or another, and

later and to russia itself, the destruction of the kakhova hpp is also a blow to in the ukrainian agricultural sector , about 10,000 hectares of agricultural land on the banks of the kherson region were flooded, and from 20 to 30,000 hectares on the occupied left without a source of water, 94% of irrigation remained systems in kherson, 74 in zaporizhzhya and 30% in dnipropetrovsk regions, all this will have a negative impact on the production of grain and vegetable crops, as a result, a new stage of price growth is expected. 4 billion hryvnias, the estimated amount of damage to the environment due to the undermining of the kakhovka hpp in russia is already more than 55 billion

hryvnias, we are talking with volodymyr sadchim director of the ukrainian hydrometeorological institute of ukraine and the national academy of sciences of ukraine p. volodymyr we greet you good morning mr. volodymyr well, i guess i will start with the most terrible. already behind or not yet dear friends, after we processed on the 16th of this month, the satellite information became clear that the kakhov reservoir is already practically does not exist out of 20,601 m² , 630 remained, almost from 12 to 15 cup kilometers

of water has already gone into the black sea. the disaster that you already mentioned, i saw all the numbers , almost everything was said for me, but look if you look at the chronology of events after the dam was blown up. the water consumption was from 40 thousand cubic meters per second and the average consumption was about 17-18 thousand, this is 6 to 16 in june of this year, under such a terrible flow of turbulent e-e transformed water masses, a huge amount of the upper layer of soil in the dnieper-buzkelman was destroyed, and then hundreds of thousands of tons of fine

dispersed material fell into the black sea. well, it should be noted then this huge amount of e-e water suspended substances e-e destroyed the soil layer with pesticides of various origins, this with various biogenic organic substances enters the dnipro flat estuary and there exerts its negative influence on the entire ecosystem. until, under the influence of e -e thermodynamic processes that are already in the zone of mixing of sea and river waters , the transformation of substances takes place with their removal to the deposit, this is the so-called hetminic barrier, which will be later and in the present time is a practical ecological disaster, but what can happen and what has already happened in the kakhov reservoir, uh

, they have led to large areas of the area . at the present time, there is a separate lake and such a huge mass of mollaks , this is a so-called heterogeneous system that includes donnu sediments of shallow dispersity from 10 microns to 50 m and on depressions and the growth part - these are lakes and channels of the old channel of the dnipro e.e. due to the fact that the bioproductive e.e. we were lucky, or if we can say so, due to the chemical transformations of the chemical composition of the water under the influence of high temperatures in the kakhovo reservoir

, il-carbonate origin was formed and with the deceased plato of volodymyr and i apologize for stopping you, you are talking about very important things, i wanted to you know, i will explain my logic a little in a practical way. and we read a lot and travel. i personally communicate with acquaintances who have lived in african countries for a long time . and when they told me that it is dangerous to drink water from the tap and take a shower because there is a risk of catching an infection, the water is worth its weight in gold, it is very tight and there is practically no water in there . in particular, what awaits the residents of the southern region, will they have problems with drinking water, will they be able to stand freely in the shower and take it without worrying about the fact that they may catch some kind of infection, and is there such a threat

for the residents of other regions, considering the disaster that you just mentioned said on at the beginning, i want to say that a terrible thing has already happened: tens of water intakes that were uh in huge numbers of uh settlements no longer exist because they are below the water level in the kakhov reservoir. at present, under the influence of temperatures , organic substances will decompose, the microbiological state will change and at the present time i cannot say what is happening right now at the present time, but our services responsible for the quality of water need to work, work because different diseases are possible, i absolutely agree with you at the present time, thank god, there are no recorded uh-uh various infections that can be under the influence of high temperatures. and you see

, there is already an increase in the temperature of uh-uh air, and what is this water will remain without it during the acid-free environment without oxygen , that's exactly what is happening. you are negative processes , in which we say that we serve as responsible for the quality of water, we need to look very carefully at what will happen in the kakhov reservoir, because a large number of toxic substances were just buried in bottom drifts and something. what can we expect from the present time ? starting next week, we will conduct various field experiments . both chemical substances and radioactive substances, and we are currently conducting what we call active e-e

experiments in order to predict what may happen in the future at the foot of the increase in air temperature and what will be the result of this in water to the system as soon as possible, but first of all i want to say that we have all types of withdrawals, they are exposed, there will simply be nowhere to supply water , so our geologists are using our hydrogen right now, in the meantime, we urgently need to look for opportunities to switch to soil power for our population, but what is happening with underground water, this is exactly where zone a is located in our country, where there is a large amount of various salts in the underground water, minimization 5-6 times higher than the maximum allowable concentrates of the so -called gdk gdk 1 g l a minimization of ground water from ground wells 4 3- 4 and that

and five grams and liters therefore, we must necessarily have a system for reducing the salt content in groundwater volodymyr and are you talking about wells that need to be drilled or about those that have already been drilled? and this is also a long-term process, huge funds, we definitely need the help of the european of the union and the united states of america, these are huge funds that are needed by our people , our specialists, who will make it possible to run water into our settlements and our residents of our state, as well as from the left bank of the kakhovsky kakhovsky reservoir. look at the practical situation, the level has dropped by 7-8 m. i still can’t say for sure at the present time, but i first told my report

about the kakhovsky reservoir. nowadays it no longer exists. here is a small cheat sheet, er, the remaining part is more or less deep-water at the present time, the depth is from 6 to er, four to six meters. well, there, you can still get water, because er, there is enough, there is still from two to four cups km of water but this hon colleagues, it is necessary to study a microbiologist, first of all, from our sanitary authorities, who must say whether it is possible to use this water at least for irrigation and , well, for household needs, but not only not for use as a drinking water supply, it is very, very, very dangerous p volodymyr, i wanted to clarify, would you say that an increase in temperature is predicted as a result of the blowing up

of the kakhovka hpp by the russians ? how much can this increase be, where, and actually, what are the consequences. look, i would like to. i could pause and look at our forecasting system, but 30-32°, uh, 33 is already a reality that is in the present time. so yesterday we have it was already 30 in kyiv and it can be 32-335° there. if the hare is a cyclone, i can't say yet about operational information. maybe you already know better than me at the moment, but it's the weight, it's very bad. the factor is our enemy after the russians at the present time, it's

the air temperature. that's right, mr. volodymyr please tell me, we are now talking about the consequences that await the ukrainians, will this catastrophe affect the neighboring states , will they understand what kind of disaster russia has wrought ? that these tens of hundreds of thousands of tons of fine dispersed material that have already arrived in dniprovsk was from kelman, this is already a danger after biological diversity will be destroyed - this is the second blow the photos we received in recent times show that these impurities have already appeared

in the black sea, but nature makes it so that within 2-3 weeks, a large amount of fine-dispersed material due to self-cleaning processes already in the deep-water zones of the black sea, it will come out of the upper layer, what will happen there actually , you know, in the deep-water zones there is a so-called sulfide layer, a hydrogen sulfide layer, there is a completely different series, this happens there, for example , heavy metals form a powerful complex , this is a product of solubility, for example lead sulphide of the 10th - 36th degree will never come from the bottom deposits, heavy metals from the deep-water zone will not reach the e-e surface to the layer where fish plankton and other things live, but it will not happen soon and now the task of scientists is to carry it out

work on detecting and predicting the extent of this danger will continue for two or three months. and please tell me what we have to wait for here until the scientists work and nature will independently help the reservoirs to be cleaned . can a person somehow help in this matter? i do not a specialist, are there any ways ? unfortunately, we can't do anything at the present time. a huge amount of millions of tons of fine dispersed material falls into the high-quality dniprovskoe buvsky lyman, which after well, it so happened that after the decline of our production, a very good process and

self-cleaning took place, and we have already reached such a the condition of which was taken care of for many tens of years, and after our industry started working, we hoped that it would be our pearl and the dnieper estuary and the dnieper was a skilman and the condition of the kakhov reservoir would improve. better, i know a lot of projects that are already working in dnipropetrovsk region and in zaporozhye region, this is an improvement because we are entering the european space and a large number of e-e ministries and departments have already been working at the present time on improving the state of our water resources, but unfortunately it is in vain, mr. volodymyr, we can only hope so strangely, and yet we believe in scientists

who, perhaps, on this path at this stage , will invent some ways to process the chain of consequences, the rest, mr. volodymyr, are infinitely grateful for this early song hours, we talked about such important things and about the consequences to which russia led to the audience. we remind you that volodymyr osadchiy was in touch with us once again.

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