[000:00:00;00] there is also a question about nato, because olena often touched on the questions of the western powers that write in the world, in particular in europe. procedure, and more and more countries agree to it, but so to speak , no. turkey and hungary can say, because they have their own, let's say, comments and interests in this matter. the first part of the question is whether there can be a procedure like acceptance into the european union what is currently being discussed, let's say the lack of one hundred percent consensus on the issue and the second issue, what can be such a driving mechanism that can convince orban or erdoğan in this matter, well, regarding turkey, i think here will be a decisive position great britain because it is such a long-standing strong ally

of turkey, respectively, and they have quite such a serious influence because they actively support this tyushki there, so big here durans , respectively yes, and the countries also have their own quite serious such powerful interests. now we also see the rest of america actively communicating with turkey regarding the entry of the corresponding sweden, there are also positives here, so here if lipitsy is so serious, then the lobbyists, then i think that turkey will not object to the entry of ukraine into nato, although it is possible to use it question for certain trades and obtaining fighter jets there , for example, how are they currently doing it with sweden regarding hungary, here i think the approach will be easier because hungary is the 32nd country in terms of the level of subsidies it receives from the european therefore, the union has economic levers of pressure that can be actively used in relation to it, to burn it down, the appropriate solution, again, as rhetoric , they can use it, they can make loud statements that we will be against it, and

so on, in particular for trades for trade is also possible, respectively, from russia with the european union, but still there is a lever for pressure quite seriously to send it to the appropriate position, therefore, regarding the accelerated procedure, we have a procedure , according to the president of finland, on which we can rely on the plus already as our western partners, they say that ukraine is moving quite quickly towards the implementation of nato standards , especially in the military sphere, let it be clear that nato is not only military , military-political, there are also a number of issues that can be necessary yes, what homework from the country is possible again, i don't think that this will be a serious obstacle, that's why it's important here. it will still be a political decision, and i absolutely agree with you that the dynamics are still more positive, but well not everything of course it would be as smooth as if we wanted well but of course what well let's uh, a year and a half ago and we will talk with you about the prospects of ukraine's accession to nato. i think that you and i were even more pessimistic in our

assessments, now this is a huge giant step forward unequivocally regarding what will happen in vilnius in july, toltenberg announced that a meeting of the ukraine nato council will be held, and here i would like to ask you what this will give ukraine and what prospects lie ahead. in this regard, these commissions are important from the point of view of defining there is a certain road map for the movement of ukraine into nato, let's not forget the previous commitments that ukraine made, and because we are about 1,000, since the 20th year, we have not gradually begun to form new relations with nato and the united states of america, well, there are a number of the obligations that we undertook and which we have not yet all fulfilled, well, of course, this is a question of a full-scale invasion, which in a certain way slowed it down, and therefore it must be done, plus , obviously, there will still be certain such markers, yes

, through which we have to go, what do we have to comment, to make a variable of a legislative nature, because perhaps in the matter of logistics, there are many, many moments that we can do the same , so it is precisely discussed at these commissions, deadlines are being formed, aid packages are being formed, for example, for the implementation of certain decisions. therefore , it is very important for someone, and of course they are, because it allows to constantly keep one's finger on the pulse of the movement of ukraine, respectively, in nato . thank you, we will wait for the summit in lithuania , but we will also hope that this the summit at this meeting in freedom, in particular, important decisions for us will be made, at least it has been declared at the highest level that we have incredible expectations ihor petrenko , a political scientist, was with us let's go further, therefore we will continue and talk further about the situation at

the front or the situation at the fronts in different directions let's say the same about what is happening now in the south and east and on the crimean peninsula, which prospects, in particular , the armed forces of ukraine have this year. i will talk about the confrontation with the aggressor oleksiy hetman, a military observer, a participant in the russian-ukrainian war, a reserve major, and i welcome mr. oleksiy to this threshold. i congratulate you. so, let's ask the first question about how do you generally perceive these certain restrictions on the fact that restrictions even advice from the general staff of the ministry of defense that any information about it is connected with our offensive actions, of course, with weapons. well, it is not that she likes silence. she should be in silence and in peace, and already against this background, propaganda of the russian e-e general staff of the russian army, in particular, constantly they produce various fakes and throw in misinformation anyway. at what level should ukrainians be informed a

-a hm, let's say about what is happening at the front, well, every day in the morning there is a message to the general staff about what is happening at the front and what forces and from whom the enemy was destroyed well, we all look at the map of hostilities given to us by the dibstates. in other words, certain advances of our troops are also drawn there, therefore, by and large , no one keeps a secret from what is happening on the battlefield. what our general staff asks us to do is to keep certain that it is because each of us has familiar friends or, uh, someone is directly on the line on the front line and some information that can be coming from these places.

of our armed forces , our mineral headquarters, please keep it, if you know something, it is not necessary to tell about it. well, every match of the president of ukraine directly does this, so they just ask. well, you don’t need what you know, keep it to yourself, because the enemy very carefully analyzes all our information spaces, the space looks at all the messages from this and tries to make some kind of picture about where we plan to go next . to do our offensive actions because he still does not understand how and where exactly we are going to make the main blows, this is the main thing, this means that someone wants to hide something from us in the 21st century. this is important to us yes, mr. oleksiy, what did the silence during the previous offensives, in particular in the kharkiv direction , lead

to? yes , i would like you to mention the report of the general staff recently. the shortage is, in particular, of air defense and artillery, the enemy has their artillery systems thanks to smuggling, smuggling, work, we are destroyed or still warehouses, every day we see reports somewhere in ginechnoska from different cities that something is exploding there, very long-winded i am still in my and their tactical weapons warehouses, tactical warehouses of fuel lubricants, so far it is too early to indicate a shortage, but the amount of destroyed equipment will sooner or later lead to the fact that, well, it is already difficult for them to find shells for their systems because many of your warehouses have been destroyed and if counter-battery work will continue like this and there will simply be a lack of archaeological systems, we remember that they had

an advantage and still have a numerical advantage in artillery, they have a numerical advantage in artillery shells, but we have more high-quality weapons, we shoot more accurately. therefore, it is not necessary for us to make the same amount per day as the russian federation does . because well, simply because we hit more accurately, and when we continue to destroy their artillery at such a pace, because we will achieve not only high-quality example, we still need to talk about this as an advantage in quality. and there is also an advantage in quantity. well, then i think that this will greatly facilitate our offensive capabilities. well, the zatnikov are currently being discussed . some people monitor the movement of the front almost every day. in the east and in the e-e, in particular , and in the south, there are four directions: there are bakhmutskyi, avdiivskyi - this is the luhansk direction, and this is zaporizhzhia, which we already mentioned

. the zaporizhzhia direction in particular. to gather their things and be ready if they run away, but this is the kind of information , so far. let's say it's not confirmed, so i have a question, is it possible to say that these four directions will continue to be at least in the coming weeks or months, what will affect this and how do you assess this thesis in general that the general staff is now groping for weak points in the russians ? well, i don’t even completely agree with you here. the fact is that we don’t need anything about matsuo . we don’t need anything in particular. when we planned these offensive actions, we knew for sure. well, the agent became aware for sure. thanks to our intelligence. what parts to partners where are the patrols of the front, what are the numbers of these units, who is the commander of all the units, how many tanks

do they have, how many do they have, well, we studied the whole picture with this, we even made a psychological portrait of these e-e leaders , commanders, or rather brigades, even battalions, maybe even a company, so we clearly know from who we are dealing with, what they are , i will also name who we are fighting with. therefore, this is not quite reconnaissance by combat. to do, well, certain certain hands, they are small, the only thing is that they just presented the news. well, olena, yes, they gave information about 90% of the reserves that are transferred to the zaporizhia direction, in particular, yes, from the south and from the crimea, including well, that’s just not my thesis and i'm not a military expert. i'll just voice the information that, for example, 90%, eh . a week ago they weren't there, but a week later they appeared there . that's why you need to understand where and how what's happening. yes, i didn't want you, i didn't want

you how can this word travel because it cannot completely different i'll just end it you will understand what i mean, it's no offense to you so, that is, we knew we were such a movement and you correctly said before this that we wanted to strip the enemy naked so we are not completely sloppy with such movements because the picture in us relative to the enemy, we uh according to the first confuse the organs like this. even for us, he still does not understand where we will make our main blows and uh, we are not preparing any powerful fists because the fact that we are waging that war is already written and er, and this there research they american british development i ordered nato about this in different countries, they are analyzing this so-called network , a centric war when we are in such small groups and who gather in a certain fist not before the start of god, but already directly in battle when we confuse the enemy and he understands where exactly he will carry the main blow what

is a network-centric war, it is an attack on large groups from different cities, but those groups that communicate very well with each other and each commander of even a small unit have a certain tactical e-e freedom in actions does not work out the framework of strategic plans and people see the commanders of all units of small e-e have good communication with neighboring units and clearly know online where the enemy is and what is happening on the battlefield. thus, we confuse the enemy and give him the opportunity to concentrate in one place in order to fulfill our gift, you correctly said 90% of their reserves, the russians have already transferred to the front line for defense in various areas, they will strengthen, well, including in the zaporozhye direction, we are in our so far, only 25% of the forces that planned to use one in these offensive actions have been involved in the offensive actions, so it is quite possible, no , it is quite possible, it is clear that in the future we will

add even more brigades that have already taken part in these actions , well, this was planned by the general staff, well, including it was necessary see how exactly the enemy is trying to make a canopy, does he have the means by which he could, well, the artillery is different there, and voshchyny, what will he do? well, they relied on it. and then it turned out that the enemy pays a lot of attention to radio-electronic warfare, he tries to jam our system communication gps-navigation, which is controlled by our rocket, this is the place, he made a big , well, a big bet. well, plus, he overturned the helicopter and he began to use aviation more actively, which was not the case before on the uh. well, on the front line, he didn't use it, but he didn't as much as now, that is, he ho- he made a bet on the enemy's defense precisely on the means of electronic warfare and on navigation, this does not mean that there is no artillery or there will be no infantry. and so the counterattack is small and

so on. news that this same these two components, he gives them a preference, but it still won't stop us, we also took this into account, we just wanted to see what exactly the enemy will bet on. well , we'll see that the enemy is now trying to change tactics in order to change something on the front line, well, they haven't changed it he has tactics, well, you can say that he simply has a lot , well, he could, he somehow tried to do more to us, it could have been or counterattacks there, assaults, meat , yes , or it could have been. to try to make breakthroughs. that is, he had to do something, well, he had to pay the main attention, and this one found out that he became, well, it's okay , let's brag, there will be a new tactic, he began to more actively use his good means of electronic warfare, this is murmansk-b and about sonyash - and beautiful as it is right from 24 and made a bet on a helicopter. well, we below may have shot down more than 300

and the navigation is here. well, this is not news. it is just what he is for. well, thank you very much for telling us everything in such detail. we wish you a good day at night oleksiy hetman, a military observer, a participant in the russian-ukrainian war and a reserve major, was with us, mother, let's continue our broadcast, let's talk about such things , russia has prepared its response to western sanctions, there they want to nationalize the assets of american and european companies, this is what a shaltans writes about to capture western assets putin signed a confidential law that allows the appropriation of western assets for symbolic sums, in particular, gives the russian state the priority right to buy any western assets at a significant discount so that they can be sold at a profit, at the same time they are discussing even more draconian measures for the full nationalization of the group writes an attempt well, the main goal is to punish the western countries that

have imposed sanctions against the russian federation and at the same time encourage those who play by the kremlin's rules andriy yermak called on the world strengthen sanctions against russia and those who help it , he noted that on june 14 odessa was attacked by russian caliber missiles and each of these missiles contained at least 40 foreign components and microelectronics russia will not be able to produce such rockets ihor chlelenko, the head of the analysis and strategy center is already with us congratulations i congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes well, we already have more than 10 packages 11 in particular, we remember that the first sanctions were introduced there with in the 15th year, it seems ah and they will still be implemented in the future, 11,000 are already individuals, let's say that honors suffer from these very western sanctions, i mean from

the russian federation, and there will be much more of them . and in this part, let's first question more generally, what have been achieved and what could be achieved by western sanctions, which should, after all, slow down the russian federation of putin personally in this aggression, well, it is obvious that western sanctions definitely work, those who say that they do not in any way give the opportunity to stop the war, they would not could have done this, it is absolutely obvious , but despite the fact that you are now calling the missiles that attacked odesa there, if it were not for western sanctions, russia could collect these missiles two times, 2.5 times, three times more, that is, it is quite obvious that the sanctions are hampering the russian economy in all respects, most importantly are hampering the russian anti-tank missile system and thus all things being equal, we must continue the struggle in this direction to really break

the supply channels of those spare parts that today russia still delivers in various ways for the collection of weapons, and i really think the 11th package of sanctions today has not only well, in fact, there are some gaps to close the mistakes of the past sanctions , i should, on the contrary, strengthen, i think that it is necessary to really fight now directly with the e-e countries, these platforms, which continue to provide assistance to russia today, and we know that it's a number of countries. it's over there, it's kyrgyzstan, it's it. the same armenia in turkey is still going on. this story of the unification of the arab emirates and a number of other countries, therefore , of course, we must continue to move in this direction , action plan 2:0

presented by yarmak mcfaul's group, it is obvious that they have completely understood the list in which direction we should move further and we remember that seven out of 10 sanctions for each family out of 10 sanctions have been implemented in the world, this is precisely a ukrainian initiative, so i think that we should move really precisely in the same directly and further limit the russian federation, mr. igor, well, look at the whole world, russia produces rockets, even with european components, and here is the question . well, in your opinion, how could these european components get to russia? well, they have already drawn different schemes starting from all the countries of the spacers we see that now, for example, legal entities are being opened somewhere in switzerland, we see how, for example , the territory of russia is used as a transit a-a, but these goods are lost in the territory of the russian federation, then there

are a number of such channels today, which in fact, today they make it possible to supply those components that will kill ukrainians in the future, in these devices, in missiles, in everything else. in fact, i think that we should really talk directly with the producing countries, we know that this information was transmitted through diplomatic channels to embassies, consulates and if there is no reaction there, not only there at the european level, at the national levels. obviously, in ukraine, we will have to talk directly about the specific manufacturers of these chips, and we already have quite a good experience when we we include specific legal entities there as financing terrorism, we have seen it in the banking sector, now it is very much not liked there, for example, hungary and there greece , for example but nevertheless, i think that

we will really have to move in a similar direction then , wait for the investigation of the british ze last year telegraph where they noted that, in general, approximately 10 eu member states sold weapons, missiles, guns to russia despite all these sanctions, in particular, only france and germany sold weapons to russia for something there about 20070 million dollars, can such a scheme work now, well, it is obvious that somewhere shady, uh, similar schemes can work , but of course, as soon as they start talking about them, they shed light on them, this is a big reputational blow to specific countries , not even to specific manufacturers, but directly to countries and especially if this country spends billions of taxpayers' dollars there to support ukraine, then

of course it is even more eh. well, it puts such countries in a very uncomfortable position, so of course it is better first maybe behind the scenes eh try to influence such countries in order to close such supply channels, which is what ukraine is actually doing right now, giving the opportunity to its partners to react as quickly as possible . now and in my life to supply weapons to russia, except for the same dictators as putin, and we know about them and have already discussed north korea and wounds, etc. what is your opinion, what can the prc do, more precisely, we already know that on sunday there was a meeting between anthony blinkin and high-ranking officials of the prc, in particular, diplomats. yes , they were there, and others, in particular, in two months , it is possible that there will be a meeting even at the level

of the presidents of these countries, the united states and china. let me remind you that just a few weeks ago, the head of the us treasury already indicated that we will offer china such conditions for cooperation with the eu that it will not even look in the direction of the russian federation in this part, and china helps bypass sanctions in and after and supplies a lot of things in this part, if china falls away, and can it be that russia will drag out this war, as you think in the future, well, even with the support of china, which is de facto at the moment, russia will definitely not drag it out this war. nevertheless, the most important thing for us right now is that china does not increase even this shadow support. we know there from the point of view of supplying, for example , components for drones.

obviously, iran is involved, and china plays a big role. next, we see the topic, for example, how weapons are handed over to the kadyrovs , or , more precisely, chinese armored vehicles, and it is obvious that we really need to understand here. to understand, but the fact that this visit of mr. blinkin actually took place . i think that it really brings a very important result for ukraine, because, at least , i still think that china is now afraid to increase its aid to the russian federation because everything it could get from the russian federation, it is now getting it, and again , it is necessary to understand that russia will never replace china, the european market, the european market is a priority for china, at the same time, russia in china's foreign trade is only 3 %. that is, for them it is just a gas station, a banal

gas station and within the limits that they need . well, plus, again, an additional market for chinese companies in the territory of russia, which are now using it accordingly because of the sanctions introduced, i think that china really will not change the european vector today to strengthen support for russia, and let's end our communication with what we started with, in particular, this semi-liquid, semi-hidden decision regarding the assets of western companies, what should it all be called on mind that the russians will take property from western companies on the territory of russia , what is this piracy called, how are they different from those pirates in somalia, and yet i will add if they decide to do it how much will it affect the west? well, i want to tell you that this is absolutely piracy and piracy. but again, this is an additional

factor of the exit of those western companies that continue to work on the territory of the russian federation , that is, they saw that they were beginning to be robbed in exactly the same way as this was done by the communists at the beginning of the 20th century, we know that there was not one such case, in fact, when western industrialists lost their factories, well, because of the communists, and that is why the situation is now, do you remember yes yes absolutely that is why in this case it is just a confirmation of the destructive policy pursued by the kremlin, and the most important thing is that if he starts doing this, it will become an opportunity for western countries to further strengthen their work in terms of arresting and confiscating not only the assets of the central bank of the russian federation, but also of their enterprises and which are not only related to the russian nuclear weapons industry, that is, in this way, putin will simply

open an additional channel that can be worked out in relation to russian business, and thus it will be an even greater blow to those to the russians who tried to work in a civilized manner in the world. yes, and once again it will confirm that it is better not to have any business with russia at all, mr. igor. thank you for joining our broadcast. scan the qr-code, congratulations, ukrainians are with you, the marathon, the only news is for you, the tv channel team is happy to keep our finger on the pulse and summarize the main points for you , together we are the force, the only news in the center of unacceptable events, a unique art exhibition about

a sense of the values ​​and daily struggle of each of us from the beginning of the full-scale invasion until the spring of 2023, our common experience worth talking about how do you come from june 1 to june 25 in a ukrainian house, an exhibition, a conversation that is impossible without you , i see thursday nights already in ukraine news time in on the air of the general national all -people marathon the only news ua together my name is andrii sinitsyn so we begin the russian occupation army at night attacked ukraine with iranian drones and missiles in the eastern and southern regions announced the air alarm is stated in the telegram of the air forces of the armed forces of ukraine, the air forces warned about the threat in zaporizhzhia, kharkiv, dnipropetrovsk and donetsk regions, and later in odesa and mykolaiv regions, the odesa regional military administration

reported on the work of anti-aircraft defense forces in the region, they also announced the work of air defense in odesa and in the zeiss air force . so , donetsk and zaporozhye are now red on the map of air alarms , please stay in shelters until the alarm goes off or use the rule of two walls and in none in this case, do not shoot and do not post videos or photos on social networks of how air defense works, this is very, very important. russia will lose the captured de-occupation territories, there is simply no alternative, the president