[000:00:00;00] serhiy rudenko and the vertec program goodbye take care of yourself good evening we are from ukraine, glory to ukraine , this is a verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko greetings to everyone today volodymyr zelenskyy held a meeting of the supreme commander-in-chief, where they discussed the situation at the front and offensive brigades, and at night the crimean peninsula was attacked by drones and in the morning in simferopol, the car of a collaborator of the assistant to the deputy prime minister for economic development of the zaporizhia region, volodymyr epifanov, who was appointed by the russian federation, exploded united states secretary of state anthony blinken visited china today and met with the leader of the people's republic of china xi jinping. this is the first

such major visit by an american secretary of state to this country in the last five years. he is also the highest-ranking official of the united states of america who visited china first. joe biden's presidency. during this meeting, blinke and sitelpinim talked about the supply of russian weapons rather than the supply of chinese weapons to russia and in such the method of china's participation in the russian-ukrainian war russia continues to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine 220,000 450 russians have already died in ukraine in just the last day the armed forces of ukraine have destroyed 630 people since the beginning of the great war the russians have already lost 3989 tanks and 7735 fighters in ukraine of armored

vehicles 3,865 artillery systems 610 rocket salvo systems 370 air defense means 314 aircraft 305 helicopters 6613 units of motor vehicles 18 ships boats 1199 winged missiles - 3 73 drones 526 11 special equipment, so putin flew off nato's coils against the freezing of the conflict in ukraine, but not in order to host ukraine at the vilnius summit or make an official invitation to ukraine to the northern talent alliance, and what blinken was talking about today with the chinese and on saturday with the africans putin we will talk about all this for the next hour i want to introduce our guest today - he is a politician-diplomat extraordinary and

plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the republic belarus in 2010-2011 roman immortal, mr. roman, good evening and good health. thank you for being on our air. good evening, mr. sergey. let's start with the visit of seven leaders of african countries, which took place on friday, respectively, and did not visit saturday from the first kyiv and then flew to putin in st. petersburg, where the international economic forum was taking place, what did

volodymyr zelenskyy say after the meeting with this seven who apparently brought some kind of peace plan to the ukrainian capital? do you know how to tell you with good words or good steps to stop with good steps towards the president of the russian federation to stop his aggression? i think on the contrary diplomatic isolation is to show that the whole world understands that he is an aggressor and a terrorist and his entourage. these war criminals are the same as him, by the way. i believe that this can be a serious lever and influence the return to diplomatic dialogue. this was the main purpose of the visit of the delegation of african leaders to ukraine and the minister of foreign affairs of egypt told russia about this precisely if during a meeting in cairo with the chief representative of the eu and foreign policy jose pomporel , according to shukri, the military conflict between russia and ukraine destabilized world food prices and what negative

consequences for the countries of the african continent we will hear what else besides the purpose of this visit was to listen to both sides and at the same time to study to what extent we can achieve a ceasefire and return to diplomatic dialogue based on understanding that any military conflict must be ended peacefully, resolve conflicts by peaceful means - this is one of the provisions of the un charter, mr. roman , the representatives of african countries speak the right words. simply does not hear and does not want to listen, but simply uses it in order to legitimize its status in international politics and create a platform

, as it were, for negotiations with ukraine, and more simply to relay again its diplomatic excuse me nonsense, in a different way, i can’t say that before putin , ah, mr. serhiy, from my point of view , the situation is much worse . the strange thing here is that they are absolutely no different in their essence from the initiatives that have been coming out of the bricks environment for more than six months, actually if you analyze these initiatives and compare them with the initiatives of the brazilian president of hunger

silva compare them with the chinese plan or the proposal for the plan, then they are all uh, very tangibly, fundamentally similar, and from my point of view, the words they all say are just a masking of the fact that, in fact, all these individuals are in conditions where they are forced to carry out plans which prove to them .

it is necessary in order to renew the stocks of ammunition , drones, missiles , and so on destroyed by the ukrainian army. and this in itself stretches the war in time, which is what the moscow figure hopes for. from africa, nothing prevented all of them from uniting within the framework of the general assembly to start the process of implementing their plans there, but as you see within the framework of the e-e general assembly it is even in their security council completely different positions, because russia's tactics are different there, russia is selling nibelzyatin to the whole world from here, eh, when you look at it from a distance, ah, well, it's as if it's something separate, which is an initiative, which in fact, if

a situation with the consequences of a war, which is called the emergence of a problem with hunger , is actually created yes, indeed, the war was raging all over the world, and one of these factors is the fact that on the african continent, in a number of countries , colossal food shortages have arisen, but if we look at the south african republic whether in egypt or on the comoros islands, there is no such problem, that is, if we talk about the issue of food supply , it is the eastern part of africa where there really is such a problem, but as you can see , there is no initiative from here even in this

matter. in detail, it becomes clear that not everything here is as if well, not everything matches and not everything is accurate enough to appeal to these problems, and from my point of view , i emphasize this once again. this delegation, like its predecessors, that is, like the brazilian president, like and chinese the special representative's trip to europe is simply the implementation of certain approaches and certain tasks that are being developed and implemented in the kremlin, and here it must be said that the result of the special representative was obvious and obvious. they understand, including in europe, they understand the beautiful united states of america, but what does the cream hope for with such steps, firstly, it is a certain

wave of information, and secondly, it is the laying of these mines for the future, because the kremlin will always say that we proposed and not only we they proposed this and these and these, but there was no reaction, in fact, in fact, in all this there is nothing more than a certain tactical operation related to the situation at the front, if we summarize the contagion. these are all the initiatives. add here the accident on a-a undermining of the russian the military of the kakhovka hpp and so on. it is very rare if it falls into what is called a certain tactical scheme developed and implemented by the kremlin. there are also several moments that were during putin’s meeting with the leaders of african countries, which are actually important

well, in particular, what putin said at this g7 meeting was about the agreement that the ukrainian side supposedly initialed in istanbul . last year in march at the end of march , when the russian and ukrainian delegations met, this is the so-called agreement on permanent neutrality and security guarantees for ukraine. let's see, he did it. putin well, that's what the contract is called , and the guarantee and safety of ukraine will always come to me, and 18 articles , moreover, to it, if there's even an application, they know it now, i won't even talk about it . they apply to the armed forces.

other things, everything is written down to the units of combat equipment and to the personnel of the armed forces, here is the document of the kyiv delegation , the signature is worth it, but after we, as we promised , withdrew the army from kyiv, the kyiv authorities , as they usually do and further they will not refuse any other agreements, well, putin is lying that they withdrew the troops because this agreement was already calculated, because the russian troops were simply fleeing from kyiv, they were simply defeated there regarding this document, well, you are an experienced person, you are a diplomat, you are a politician, you understand that putin got this from a subcontractor for this contract, the draft of the contract initialed by whom is it signed on that side, what is the status of this document, why should this document become this document in accordance with

that we were supposed to have 300 tanks and not 800 tanks, that is, it is completely incomprehensible, you can say well, why is putin pulling out this draft, it is the same draft, it is not of any legal force - this document does not play and does not exist, but sergei you you are absolutely right to focus on the fact that a document that is not signed, moreover, it is not ratified by the parliament and so on , it is worthless. that is, it was a piece of paper , it was not in it , where did it come from ? pay attention. that is, it is a technological procedure that was carried out by whom it was carried out whose proposals are these and so on from the point of view of the result - it is a worthless thing now what is it used for, they put some

people in front of them and show them the claims that the fuere is expressed by the moscow ukrainian delegation, but what claims can there be, what claims can there be after buchi, after mariupol, after the endless shelling in the shelling of the bombings of ukraine , which observance of which obligations ? he himself hanged himself on the whistle after signing the documents and inheriting this document from russia. despite this , the leaders of african states are waving their heads in the affirmative. they do not even understand in spirit that

they just lie to them, cover their eyes and so on, from here to talk about the content of a-a about which fure is talking about, then, from the point of view of international law, this is putting smoke in the eyes of the delegation in this world from here. this is another fact that the trip itself and all this that is being done is calculated only for one thing: to give this information to uninformed, inexperienced people who do not understand what international law is, how do such documents come into force , when they come into force, and whether they can come into force at all, and you know the leaves i had to work in many structures about a considerable number of negotiations. i know what it is like on the projects on which it is written top secret completely top secret only for official use and so on and therefore , just for the sake of respect for our listeners, i do not

want to evaluate in the right words what this humanoid creature is creating from with some pieces of paper well, he creates , by the way, not only with seven pieces of paper from the un charter, because he also explained to africans that the recognition of the territory of the pseudo-republics of the so-called lpr and dpr was in accordance with article 51 of article e-e of the un charter and had the right to provide assistance, referring to the clause on self-defense, what else did putin say about the un, how did he juggle this united nations charter , let's see, we did not have the right to recognize the independence of these territories in full accordance with the joint, we had the right to do so because the leadership is the corresponding article of the un charter, these

territories had the right to declare their independence, so we had the right to recognize them, and we did so, and then we signed a friendship and cooperation agreement with them in the full appropriate composition of the un, they had the right - this is assistance and they will provide it, well, it is completely. i don't know, it's not that it's an insult , it's just, god's dew, it's just, mr. sergey , what concerns the russian interpretation of the norms of the statute of the norms of international law, that's a matter of course, ah, russia has returned to the worst times of the ussr, to the gromyko period, when if the whole world said that it was white, in moscow they said it was black and interpreted that it was between the norms of general international law and continental

european law, as they wanted to be taken seriously from here, except for me on this i emphasize simply as an information wave, eh, only those who do not understand what and then understand perfectly well that he is simply lying and deceiving because no one has ever had any territorial extraterritorial sovereignty and does not have it because from the point of view of the norms of international law the right to self-determination have nations and not some territories , moreover, in relation to such things in the same russia, a lot of scientific works have been written, and moreover, russia itself, pay attention to how it behaves even with ethnic groups and national groups that demanded and demand it destroys their self-determination simply as an imperial state, so talking to them from

the point of view of compliance with the norms of international law has long been unproven. -psychological operation, and there is one more fragment of this meeting that i would like to talk about, about the children of ukrainian children who were forcibly taken away and deported to the russian federation, and because of this, putin received a warrant from the international criminal court precisely for the deportation of ukrainian children, this is a difficult article in international law and in general any law and what did putin say to them from

the conflict zone, he will save their lives and health, that 's what happened. families were separated there , they were transported to orphanages completely legally, because the heads of these homes were their legal representatives. we were never against children reuniting with their families, and are there relatives announce no obstacles to this , there were never any. and of course, it will never happen. the villages of the city, and the orphanages too, on the eve of the visit

of the africans to kyiv, the political circles talked about the fact that this simka was going to convince zelenskyi and his team to help the icc withdraw this warrant for putin's arrest in order for putin to be able to visit the south african republic for the brics itself, because he cannot go there because it is ratified. the rome statute is ratified by couples and you are here. we didn't do anything like that. we simply transported them from the conflict zone from the war, which we arranged to a safe and dangerous territory in chuvashia or siberia . where

did they transport these poor and unfortunate children? the icc should somehow take into account what putin is saying now, first of all, the icc cannot withdraw its warrant until the end of the investigation, only based on the results of the investigation, a decision is made regarding the further development of events or before the court , or the court can recognize, let's say, the relevant accusations as unfounded. and as for the decisions prosecutor in relation to the relevant document, this is a means, this is the first , second, now the question is in substance the fact is that this crime is classified as one of those that fall under the category of crimes against humanity and from the point of view of responsibility, then understands how and the whole gang, all this clique, that they didn't just commit a crime, they demonstrated it, they did it demonstratively, and uh, the fact

is that, realizing this step, they deliberately went to a-ah these violations, thinking that you are not able to cover it up with good intentions, and uh fortunately, they left so many traces by carrying out the illegal deportation of children from the territory they occupied by killing their parents , destroying children's homes, kindergartens, schools , etc. that the facts today are enough to bring charges and prove the guilt of führer putin and the commissioner for the rights of the child in relation to these two persons, and an arrest warrant was issued. there are several nuances that need to be paid attention to, and so, first of all, this means that under the guise of a-a peaceful initiatives

, an actual proposal was allegedly carried out that was related to the iss although cyril amophosa perfectly understood as the president that no revocation of the order would already be the second as well as later one of the arguments of this process actually and wanted to provide an explanation because what he was doing now and in the demonstrated fragment meant that he gives an explanation the investigation on the merits on the merits of the question of how the investigation will deal with this depends on the presentation of the documents to the court and the decision that will be made by the court, however, it is necessary to clearly understand that since the previous fragment is related to the issues of some pieces of paper , this fact is also used exclusively in order to influence the world with information and to put pressure on the delegation, including

african presidents, heads of governments, heads of state, in order to implement their policies from here. i fully accept everything that we saw in the plot as an actual fsb development from the point of view of influence on the world and not only on the ukrainian side as much as on the world, but from the point of view of justifying their crimes, which the führer and his gang committed in ukraine starting from 2014 as a tatar lukashenka also involved in the deportation of ukrainian children, in particular , several children's camps were created on the territory of the republic of belarus, where children from the east and south of ukraine were transported, we are talking about 2150 children who were

relocated on the territory of the republic of belarus can lukashenko also become a participant in this case about the deportation of ukrainian children and get a warrant from the international criminal court, because they are just uh , he snooped around with uh, putin, well, in all his affairs , i have no doubt that lukashenko will have exactly such a warrant. especially since the facts about which were announced recently, they were known since the winter of last year, including about these children's places where children who were taken out of ukraine settled, and everyone knew perfectly well that from the territory of chernihiv and kyiv regions there was a large number of children were taken out of here, it is obvious that in the course of the investigation materials on lukashenko will be included and he, like the moscow führer, will receive a decision of the international criminal court regarding

detention in connection with the accusation of illegal deportation and, in fact, the abduction of children from the territory of ukraine, because without their knowledge him as president, and lukashenko or later could not take appropriate actions. therefore, it is obvious that at the level of the middle and high command of the armed forces of both countries they knew that these were things that directly violated the norms of international law and are interpreted as an international crime, here one must understand this nuance without the direction of the first person in the state, such things could not be done, because the list of these 15 crimes that are in the memory of every military person listed it is forbidden to do it and it is punishable by both international and national

by the way, this is exactly the case in the national law , the enumeration of crimes, which include the removal of children, the abduction of children , torture, rape, this is all listed, therefore, the team for the implementation of such things could only give the first person, this means that lukashenko and then one type of question, yes, they will be responsible before the court for these crimes , a candidate for sitting on the dock of an international criminal court or a possibly international tribunal, this is dmitri piskov, so dmitri pisku started talking about that that one of the points of the so-called special military operation, namely demilitarization, seems to have already been fulfilled. he said about this in an interview with rash

tudey arabic and he explained it in this way strongly militarized at the moment, the meaning of a special military operation, and as putin said yesterday, there was one task of the militarization of ukraine, in fact, this task was largely accomplished because, in general, less and less of ukraine's weapons are used, and more and more of the weapons system is used, which represents the countries of the west militarization, too well, it just needs to be a unique shot in order to explain in this way that we bombed factories that were , relatively speaking, part of the military-industrial complex of ukraine, and that ukraine received they do not want to recognize the latest weapons, and they are very modern weapons that allow us to liberate our territories from the russian invaders, but explain everything that well, we have already