[000:00:00;00] for now we are suffering from this, so we will tell you more about it, watch us, continue on youtube, the tv version ends , so if you watched us on tv , switch to the youtube version and our studio will continue there, where there will be comments, players and coaches. goodbye, this is bbc ukraine olga palamaryuk is working in the studio and today we are talking about the visit of state secretary ablinkin to china and something like that in ukraine, a tough conversation , united states secretary of state anthony blinken and chinese leader xi jinping met in beijing the first in five years of attempts by two superpowers not to conflict and to take into account each other's interests china assured the americans that russia will not supply lethal weapons does this mean that in ukraine there are reasons

to sigh with relief the visas of the united states secretary of state to the deceased, the first of this kind in the last 5 years anthony blinken is the only high-ranking american diplomat who visited china during the presidency of joe biden in beijing. blinken met with the gypsy foreign minister and a leading chinese diplomat. the latter was unknown. and whether the meeting with xi jinping will take place, the negotiations were not announced, and the very fact that the meeting did take place is a clear signal that the chinese leader is ready for negotiations . this is how experts analyze the situation. for this trip, namely establishing open channels of communication, directly raising issues that cause concern , exploring opportunities for cooperation that will be in common interests during this trip, we

have done all this, but progress is a difficult process. it takes time , it is not the result of one visit, one trip, one conversation. i really hope that we will have better communication , better interaction in the future. it will definitely not solve all the problems that exist between us , but it is very important to do what we do we both agree that it is necessary and this is a responsible attitude towards relations even before the start of negotiations, both sides stated that they did not expect significant results from the meeting , and the relations between the united states and china were called the worst ever and there are several reasons for this tension around taiwan and sanctions against china . of course, russia's war against ukraine in a statement following the negotiations in china . this is how the state secretary outlined their key points, according

to him. hong kong in the matter of taiwan blinked and did not repeat that the united states consistently adheres to the policy of one china and does not support the independence of taiwan, but they are worried about the chinese, as he said, provocative steps in to the taiwan strait, well, another stumbling block in us-china relations, and the war in ukraine unleashed by russia. anthony blinken said that the chinese leaders assured him that they would not supply russia with so-called lethal aid, that is, weapons. so blinken came to china, according to his own words, to strengthen relations ties and clarify what the parties agree with each other and what are the disagreements, according to him, it was possible to achieve this, in general, the relations between washington and apetino in recent years cannot be called good or even neutral, but personally the meeting between dvinkin and zbinkin, which did happen, can be seen as a hint that his government is trying to stop

the deterioration of relations between china and the united states . this is how the bbc correspondent in china, stephen macdonald, described the atmosphere during this visit. let's listen, nobody wants to so that the relations between the two countries deteriorate even more chinese foreign minister tinggan told the us secretary of state that now is relatively actually at the lowest point since the countries established diplomatic relations and another seems to be a very frank meeting which happened very close from here i finished my meeting with the top official responsible for china's international policy wan yi and at this meeting anthony told you what damn cinema in the opinion of china the current difficulties in relations between washington and beijing are all because of the united states, that is, washington should stop blocking chinese technological they say the hype about the chinese

threat should stop, but you know it's interesting . officials constantly say that they have frank conversations, but officials say that in meetings they deviate from the script, the meetings last longer than expected, the meeting with vanya lasted an hour longer the day before anthony blinken had seven and a half hours with tingan, that is, they really have a lot of everything and while the parties will be happy even if they can just restore the lines of communication , but they also talk about other fundamental things in theory to agree to more flights between the two countries in theory to agree to better exchanges between academics no, there are no details how this can happen but at least they are discussing these things because they really know that it is serious gypsy also said the day before that the issue of taiwan is one of the most important

issues between the two countries and it also represents a great potential risk that no one has illusions, there is a potential for armed conflict , and that is why, as they say, in the united states there should be some kind of risk reduction process, there should be certain things that would not allow two world powers to get involved in a war. and if before the war of russia against ukraine to what extent this issue was discussed at the meetings. and what western experts saw was a fairly minimal set of gains from this trip, but they did not expect such a result. i do not think that secretary of state blinken went there hoping to conclude some important new agreements. in fact, this visit was an attempt to convey the us position to the chinese leadership, in particular and directly until now zenpin, which was of great importance and, in fact, it was an attempt to thaw contacts between the two sides, when zenpin

spoke about the agreements with bali, he had mind what he agreed on at the meeting with biden and what was frozen after the incident with the chinese hot air balloon in the usa is essentially a belated visit that should bring the party to cooperate on a number of global issues that blink would separately at his press conference on the fight against distribution of drugs , fanta nilu about russia and so on. in my opinion , the parties have made progress in thawing relations, but this is not the same meeting as it used to be when the parties set themselves ambitious tasks, so the results minimal in relation to russia, in particular, to the question of whether the chinese have taken on any additional obligations , the adviser's answer is, i think, china has been increasing supplies to russia of dual-use materials since the end of last year , operating on the border of red lines, because here not only the american leaders, but also the leaders of european countries warned china that the supply lethal weapons to the russians, it will seriously damage

relations with the usa and the eu, so the chinese are not crossing those red lines . but the real problem is these chinese companies that supply certain technologies to the russians, from drones to body armor or semiconductors, even the europeans are talking about sanctions against such chinese companies, there is nothing to indicate that during the visit blinke managed to achieve at least some progress and such deliveries will most likely continue and we will further analyze all these events together with the scientific the director of the democratic initiatives foundation , the professor of the department of political science of the kyiv-mohyla academy, oleksiy garan, on our broadcast . what are your impressions, is it possible to say that relations between washington and beijing are on the rocks, or how would you sum up blinkin's visit

? you know. i think that it was possible to reach a certain understanding. indeed, the negotiations lasted longer than planned . blinkin's meeting took place and it was not announced before the visit. that is this is already directly before this visit , an agreement was reached about this, but uh, this will to some extent unblock further relations between the usa and china, it is about a possible meeting uh , in the fall between uh, this dengping and the presidents biden, but look here. you know, you don't need to be such a sky-high optimist, the fact is that what is happening between the u.s. and china. there will be such ups and downs and they will not continue because

china is currently an adversary of the u.s. china's policy is actually quite aggressive, the problem of taiwan for china and president xi is the number one problem, the so-called reunification of taiwan with china, the us is in charge, and china continues to consider the us an adversary, its goal is to weaken the united states states, that's why the rivalry here, it will continue, and we see that if we talk about china's position regarding the war in ukraine , china itself is de facto informational, at least in terms of narratives. this rivalry will continue, the problem is simply that they are trying to put

it now, after all, to lower this level of tension in order to make the situation less unpredictable, or rather, more forgiven to introduce it, after all, within certain limits. that is, it is good this is good, of course, but the rivalry continues. it will not go anywhere, and the same is true if we talk about the war in ukraine . well, china said that they do not supply weapons, and the chinese campaign has already been discussed by many correspondents and analysts. well, there is no one to guarantee this. china will not be able to. well, china said that we will not supply. another thing is that these chinese companies are also afraid of falling under american sanctions, so if their enthusiasm for the supply of weapons or relevant

components to russia is limited, but exclude that this will not happen. we cannot hope that behind the scenes you see that the topic of ukraine was not revealed in the stone house , well, we hope that behind the scenes blinkin's conversation was tough enough, but chinese policy will be aimed at saying yes, but at the same time looking for any what are the possibilities to bypass the sanctions in order to weaken the west and the united states , that is, it is not in the interests of the strategic interests of china, as they imagine it, the loss of russia , so we have so you spoke so you spoke about the war in ukraine and well and we recall how china proposed

its own peace plan for ukraine . yes, on the anniversary of the beginning of the full-scale invasion, then a number of experts and representatives of the president's office stated that it represented the interests of moscow. officials, it was ambiguous, then they said that there are some elements that can be used, well, in particular, when it comes to russia not pretending to be nuclear safe, so that russia did not resort to nuclear blackmail, the point is about the safety of nuclear plants, but in general , if we look at the chinese plan, well , there is rhetoric, there is russian rhetoric, so some elements from there can be discussed, but in general, it is built on pro-russian artillery. well, you spoke for the chinese plan yes, i want to briefly ask you about one more call to stop the war . last week, african leaders visited

kyiv, russia, in turn, also talked about peace, about ending the conflict. if you could summarize the results of such a visit and whether it worked. here you have literally one minute for this peace mission. well, you can't reveal all of this in one minute, so to say that this plan will bring peace to ukraine would be naive. again, there are very few specifics. there are a lot of general words. africans are primarily interested in being grain and fertilizers, there are very good words about the exchange of prisoners and the return of children, but there are no concrete calls for russia to withdraw its troops from ukraine, and how can we decide anything without this? there are no specifics. thank you for the conversation. oleksiy horai, scientific director of the democratic initiatives foundation, was on our broadcast . well, that's all for today

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kudimov and more about the main thing as of the evening monday, june 19, following jesus, they are advancing on the flanks around the city of bakhmut, which was occupied by the russian army with battles, about what is really happening in this direction in a moment . well, already 8 settlements in the tauri direction have been recaptured from the occupiers by the defense forces , at the same time, experts predict that the armed forces of ukraine in the near future, offensive actions will be stopped, why and how this will be reflected on the front line, as well as live information about what is happening in the zaporizhia region, progress and agreement on the low level of specific issues in beijing us secretary of state anthony blinken and the leader of china met in all the calls, what was agreed on, what guarantees regarding ukraine were given to the states in the prc well , to begin with, i urge you to like this broadcast. this way you will help more people see our program and not

miss the main thing: the armed forces of ukraine are moving forward flanks around the city of bakhmut , which was occupied by the russian army with battles . thus, according to the fighters of the 24th separate mechanized brigade named after prince danylo , the ukrainian army manages to improve the tactical position and get a chance to develop offensive actions to liberate the currently occupied territories, but at what cost did radio svoboda get the opportunity to get into the positions recaptured from the russian army at night and follow what was happening there?

night shooting well, as the night is clear, it’s normal, but it ’s still a couple of minutes away, and we can move with the soldiers to the forward position. it’s a dark period of time . we drive in a car without lights, but it ’s dangerous to drive. to notice the russian troops and open fire, at the same time, you can enter these areas only at the dark edge, the hot area was recently repelled by the royalists, they hurried, we are moving at once in complete darkness with the soldiers, i did not think of it, this

is one of the areas that the royal brigade liberated after moving forward, which was already reported by the ministry the defenses are actually strong, dima managed to make such an advance and gain such a modest tactical advantage , we are walking in our advanced positions, they have come to cross the channel in the middle of winter here they fought back there for the last couple of days, but where you want to go, how difficult was it? it was very, very difficult. if i’m honest, very serious trenches were cut normally

, well , i don’t want to dig in there. lost with painful blood, kicked them out of here, every improvement even by 10 m is already an improvement, it already looks like they are being beaten , they are starting to be knocked down, it is rioting , it is something else, we are instilling fear in them, is it just that it is

summer and there is still an assault? it is a little complicated, but nothing popular, strong, really powerful guys and fighting lighters were 30 meters from here where you are standing 5 meters from here there were russian guys and they destroyed him and now the enemy turns out to be closest to 400 meters from here the enemy positions begin here now ours here what is there further from here meters more 300-400, our troops are still standing here, what we repelled the last time with our forces . well, you and i will not go there because there is a war there, there are no jokes, so many people died there . well, how are the guys holding on? i have held them

all for 1.5 years. in the war, they keep someone and a half year is holding the line and who has been fighting in pairs for a year and a half, that's all i can tell you. the tortured guys are standing here for four months . they have been standing here for the whole winter in order to carry out assault actions. several hundreds of meters were retaken, which the ukrainian military managed to knock out, and the russian army is already near there, 400 m from here, they used to stand here, right next to it, now there, in fact , there are bodies lying in the combat zones, er, in advanced positions of the russian a-a military, these are the damaged russian soldiers who held my defenses there, and at the moment you can hear

it here quite a bit. it is so quiet, and this is an unusual situation for this area , but we passed by on our way here and saw how the russian army used the bm-21 grad, it is igniting shells, here it is a regular, stable picture, they use in fact, the entire range of weapons in the armed forces of ukraine showed how fighters of the 128th separate mountain assault brigade liberated pyatikhatka from the russian occupiers in the zaporizhzhia region, such footage was made public on the account of the commander-in-chief of the armed forces in the morning of ukraine, the liberation of the village was also confirmed by the deputy minister of defense gana malyar. according to her, during two weeks of offensive actions in the berdyansk and melitopol directions, the units of the ukrainian army

liberated eight settlements. previously , the ministry of defense already called them that this is a new gift , a levadne guarding makarivka. now pyatykhatka has been added, in total, in the tauriy direction , the armed forces of ukraine have advanced to a depth of 7 km, and the freed area in the south is 113 km². wrote hanna malyar in telegram today on june 18, by the forces of the 128th year of the service brigade and the second osb, the rashists were knocked out of the settlement of pyatikhatki, cleared, ran away, sat down in the equipment, held kostyantyn denisov , a fighter of the legion of freedom who is in the zaporizhzhia direction, joins our broadcast kostyantyn my greetings, good evening , good evening you and the viewers of your channel kostyantyn i would like to know from you what is the strategic importance of the liberated village

of pyatikhatki, what opportunities does it open up for the ukrainian army, everyone, watch everyone the village is important, and every one of us advances us to the liberation of the zaporizhzhia region, they can’t distribute it. even more so, knowing at what price progress sometimes comes, i literally two hours ago spoke with our fellow infantrymen who were clearing one of the landings in that direction for you to understand, after the clearing of the landings, their entire unit is all wounded with severe contusions, just for us to understand, this is the clearing of the landings, which is not a populated place there, but it is an important step of clearance. therefore, the whole advance is any uh

in the direction of important e-e centers, i mean vasylivka or tokmak, it is all important and it is coming to our victory, it is you, it is doubtful , when i asked about the strategic importance, i meant maybe there are some peculiarities of geographical reliefs that are important for what to beat see further progress is underway , there are features of the terrain that are used by our guys in order to expel the enemy , we will not announce the details because, as practice shows, not only patriots of ukraine are watching your broadcasts, konstantine a do you know what happened to the five-houses that were vacated on the eve of the last one, are there any people there at all, or are there any houses that are not damaged, well, look directly, our unit is not there now, based on the information that there are people there, there are no civilians, they are not letting them in, and everything is being done absolutely correctly, because russia can leave

various gifts, traps, traps, and so on. and even more so, until certain e-e actions are carried out, the russians also had no trees, they can sometimes retreat from a certain populated place, ours go there , the civilian population returns, but the russians they start with the radio, then cover first of all the civilian population returning to certain settlements. unfortunately, this is what happened last year in the territory of the melitopol district, when, let's say , people left a certain settlement and began to return there, they were simply watered with hail. about the situation in the zaporizhzhia direction and how well the positions of the russian army are arranged there, and whether it is possible to talk about any specifics of the conduct of battles. it is in this direction from these areas that i eh, i will give an assessment to those areas where our guys are standing and the frantic defense of the mini field of walking