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[000:00:00;00] rockets will really reach the crimea , what will this mean? i will also talk about the character of the counterattack later. roman svitan , a military expert, a reserve colonel of the armed forces of ukraine, has already joined our broadcast. it has been a long time since i stormed, and also the last month. if you believe the statements of the ukrainian authorities, why only now has the kremlin resorted to such threats and warns that if you will be in crimea, then we will consider it as a part of the western countries at war. what does this mean, how should it be read in kyiv, how can it be read in the west, well, the main thing is how the russians can read it, they have already read it, they understood that eh , the occupied mainland parts of ukraine are allowed. it is not like krym for russians, at least for
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shoigu, that's it, i didn't even understand what he said, he divided the territories that are in the russian constitution, they were not there , they were introduced into some categories according to which it is possible to have weapons, which cannot be used , weapons are not important, what is not, that is, such a thing well, he didn’t even notice the collision in his er-e sleep. but it was very well noticed by the russians, especially um, and not only the russians, but also er-e collaborators in the occupied territories of the er-e kherson, zaporozhye, luhansk, and donetsk oblasts, er, and here’s how they will act in the near future , we will see, we will see, but what i have is true. so far, let me not let the storm spare crimea, they have not worked on it even. questions that have not yet been answered
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that is, before the first strike by the heimers, or was the storm coming over crimea, this question will remain. why are we still not working on a military facility in crimea? the whole of crimea is covered because i don’t think these questions about the wounded are answered by our leaders, and it can be our partner , that is , us. they don't see that crimea is ukrainian territory, that is, there are questions here, and these questions were voiced by the sheikh, even without thinking that they would probably voice them, and most likely , such a voice would lead to the fact that these questions would be very
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quickly shot and that he will appear in the sky of crimea in the near future, at least he will strike at military objects three bulls when they are unlikely to get there until now, they will not reach yet, but that he is going to reach any point in crimea that's what ukraine was counting on now has the means in the form of a storm shed to reach the targets in the crimea, but for some reasons unknown to us at the moment, it does not do this. the krymsky bridge will also become later. why we don’t use it, that is, we use the storm only on the mainland in ukraine, er, er, there is already luhansk , er, mariupol, er, berdyansk, melitopol, but there is not one in crimea yet, which is generally in dol i didn't
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go in, so there is some kind of restriction here this would be a limitation to find out about this, and it is necessary to ask the military-political leadership in russia about this. if you have such an opportunity, ask this question on eh . such that it covered all military objects simply does not exist there, our drones arrive and perform combat tasks, and even more so, the shadow storm will pass exactly, especially with missiles, smoke detectors on the 160 mech , it is with them that we work in luhansk and in principle according to berdyansk , that is, it is a missile, a jammer extinguishes all the enemy's air defense as long as the combat missiles of the shadow storm are passing, then the excuse is no, it will not pass , at least, but we will not accept it, because if there is an opportunity, ask questions , the military-political leadership of the ministry
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of defense of the reznikov can ответив well, maybe i'm just assuming right now, we know that western countries are very afraid of a direct confrontation with russia, and even more afraid of nuclear threats. and today we even heard the president of the united states say that the threat of using putin's tactical nuclear weapons are real, we don't know what grounds biden has for such statements , it's obvious what he had . crimea can become a pretext for the use of nuclear weapons by the kremlin, and therefore it is possible that kyiv is delaying this moment for now .
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they will refuse aviation, they will refuse rockets, and that's it they say the use of missiles in crimea, i will refuse to join nato, and they will cover this refusal with another button about the use of nuclear weapons by the russian empire. technicians, but no, this will not lead to any big problems on the front line, this will not stop any movement, this will not stop the war, that is, the desire of the ukrainians to complete the combat task, but it will bring a lot of problems for the russians, as it will be necessary when nuclear the countries have to go to the security regime. there is nowhere else, then all the countries of the world will want to have nuclear weapons, including in ukraine, because it was necessary to start immediately, it is necessary to start now, raise the issue of
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restoring nuclear weapons , restoring the nuclear status in several ways to join nato, obtaining a nuclear weapons at our site for the production of nuclear weapons, we have 15 nuclear reactors and uranium springs, and of course the engineering and technical staff has the opportunity to produce it in plus, i will ask israel where they got theirs, uh, and take it there, that is, restore the nuclear status under the water . peaceful, so that everyone would understand why we raise them, that is, why we need to return the status to us, it turns out that our neighbors are threatening to use nuclear weapons, and also the head of the state, which is
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the guarantor of the use of that weapon to us также программы вот эту тему that is, this is how it is necessary to use such moments . i listen to you perfectly. i hear what you say, but it is very difficult. i imagine that now ukraine will claim the status of a nuclear state . well, the challenges are not the same, we see that even poland seems to be leading there. for some time such rhetoric, but even for her it looks like this the mission is impossible, especially for ukraine , that is why we leave the novels in parentheses for now, i also wanted to ask the deputy minister of defense anna malyar stated the other day about the liberation of the village of pyatikhatka and in general, according to the ukrainian authorities , 8 settlements have been returned to control, this is the zaporizhzhia region, and under the new ukrainian military and political leadership, everything seems to be moving according to plan, someone there says that it is slow, the answer is this that it was so slow and planned. how do you assess
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the course of the battles , where is the most difficult situation and does it really look like that ah and where exactly as planned? i.e. well, how in tanga is this, and in tanga, two things are necessary. therefore, it is very important how the enemy acts, and depending on the enemy's actions , the adjustment of our actions is naturally carried out. point of bifurcation, disruption depending on the actions of the enemy , then based on the fact that the russians have now begun to use operational reserves, they are already using them on the front line, well, they are pulling up strategic reserves on the already started transfer strategic reserves mainly a-a to the luhansk direction to the donetsk direction there and
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closer they can carry out certain combat tasks, we will adjust our plans just according to the plans of the enemy, if they pull up the army to the front line, then the optimal option is in this situations, they will be destroyed on the front line, he does not run after them in the operational space. and on the front line, in the fate of the contact line, with the help of artillery, with the help of aviation, the soviets will destroy the approaching reserves. of the enemy until their density is reduced to such a degree that it would then be possible to carry out breakthroughs without hindrance. this is precisely what depends on this, on this dependence on the actions of the russians, and we , including this state, understandably, this is a planned action, that is, a planned development events mm means upon the arrival of the russians to the front line, a new increase in the density of the army, we increase the amount
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of the barrel, the amount of aviation artillery and means of destruction in the valleys of the front without destroying their large amount. this can be seen from the reports of the general staff, this is the last one for the last day on the 16th of the general staff, 110 people were destroyed , this means that about 1,000 more seriously wounded who will not return to the field, both of which mean minus 2,000 people from the field of combat per day 8 tanks, eh, 15 combat armored vehicles, 23 eh- 23 artillery barrels, one helicopter - this is a good dynamic for destroying the russians. well, this just means that they are using a strategic reserve . namely such annihilation of russians with the help of artillery types of weapons the american institute for the study of war wrote in its daily report that
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the armed forces of ukraine may have to take a break, and you must have seen this remark, this review. if so, then why the pause ? on a breakthrough, that is, either a translation effect or an incorrect er expression . they stand at a distance of 100 km , they themselves approach the line of defense , er, defense, because there is clearly no sense, they will carry out breakthroughs. correct tactics, first of all, our
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forces and means are saved , secondly, it will be much easier to make breakthroughs, to complete the liberation of our territories , this kind of actions can be perceived. our well, at least eh obozrevateli mirovye as some kind of pause but a pause in movement no movement does not mean eh full adventure of military action on the contrary because i the amount of military action is now increasing only along the line, just novels, we very often hear this thesis that russia is preparing for long long war and today i followed the news from russia and i want to tell you that just today one day the state duma of russia passed a series of laws that will allow russia to mobilize even more resources for understanding and our viewers, i will say that, for example, today the state duma of russia allowed people with a criminal record to enter into military contracts, that is, the wagnerites can no longer
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recruit them. and officially, the state can enter into contracts with them. of the so-called yes , yes, they call it a war against criminal liability for crimes of medium and low gravity. russian affairs, in fact, no, i think that all these actions will have some consequences at the front . it goes to the church, really , that is, they could mobilize 20-25,000 people under contracts now. this figure is much less than two times later, they need certain laws in order to
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increase this flow or at least return it to the previous previous level plus they can prepare, uh, start preparing the legislative bases of the legal field for the next wave of mobilization, which is possible , and we will allow it finally, in september, at the beginning of october, it is possible, roughly similar to how it was last year, and because uh, the war is math, everything is calculated, even now you and i talked about the number of russians, well, if you take them, it will multiply by 2000 people, if it breaks down every day, it doesn’t matter in what form, 200 heavy, 300 people a day, and that means 60,000 people a month. and this so in 3 months until september, minus approximately 100,000 people, uh, that's 200,000 people minus it. and in russia, that's half of their personnel, because they understand such problems perfectly, they can't
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prepare now for the autumn mobilization wave.
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reuters journalists we are responsible for the sleep of civilians , that is a very large number of people. as far as it is possible, well, the most difficult thing is an attack by various types of air targets - this is when in one night both rogues and cruise missiles fly by, that's it, well, in principle, the most difficult thing is the different speed of the targets, a large number of targets. quickly, of course
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, we want all targets not to be hit, all targets to be shot down in the air, so that our air defense system works at 100%. we do our best for this, if more is needed we will do more as our small unit well, of course we want victory , but we still have a long way to go before it. a group of ukrainian people's deputies registered in the verkhovna rada a draft resolution on recognizing belarus as an aggressor country, as well as a call to break diplomatic relations with it , as one of the authors of the resolution stated, this is yaroslav yurchyshyn from the faction, this voice step is necessary to bring the belarusian regime to responsibility and future reparations in ukraine, the text of the resolution is currently unavailable, but the
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explanatory note, for example, states that the ukrainian parliament recognizes belarus as an aggressor state and calls on the governments of other states and international organizations to do the same. in addition, the verkhovna rada calls on the ukrainian government to immediately work out the issue of breaking diplomatic relations between ukraine and the republic of belarus. i would like to remind you that at the end of may, russia and belarus signed documents on accommodation of russian nuclear weapons on the territory of belarus, alexander lukashenko then assured that russia was doing this at his request, and russian president putin announced that nuclear weapons would be delivered to belarus after the seventh and eighth of july, right now on this map you can see places where nuclear weapons could potentially be placed , or, against the background of new nuclear forecasts in kyiv, minsk could break diplomatic relations and what is holding back this process so far, this is what we will talk about next, join us evgeny magda candidate of political sciences, director
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of the institute of world politics good evening . i greet you, mrs. actually, mr. evgeny. well , somehow, it's too late. it seems to me that the ukrainian deputies have started to propose some resolutions any ideas to sever diplomatic relations with the belarusians and what happened is a good question because several processes are happening at the same time, on the one hand, the process of dialogue between the belarusian democratic forces and the ukrainian one has intensified , well, at least there is an expert environment and the authorities because during the last three weeks, pavel latushko and valerko were in kyiv valevsky and i understood that there is a sugarcane aviary on the territory of ukraine. that is , three of the six members of the united transitional cabinet and literally just yesterday
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the interview of svitlana tykhanovskaya with your colleague nataliya moseichuk was made public, where i would say, mrs. natalya simply rolled out her vision and in particular admitted that it is necessary to talk about reparations and that's all, well, moseichuk's actual interview with tykhanovskaya was preceded by a video address by serhiy prytuli, who spoke last week about the fact that belarus should pay for everything . to be honest, i do not believe in a coincidence , especially since among those who initiated the resolution of registration of the draft resolution, for example, yaroslav yurchyshyn, who known as an associate of serhiy prytula, but i recently had the opportunity to participate in a round table with belarusian colleagues organized by the ukrainian prizma, and there
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mp vadym galaichuk emphasized that there are basically two draft resolutions, one of which foresees the recognition of belarus as occupied, and the other assumes that... is an aggressor country and there are no votes for both, i will remind our listeners that there is another very interesting moment that in the 20th year after the presidential elections in belarus after the scandalous account with which it was recognized lukashenka's victory, the verkhovna rada spent a month waiting on its word and in order to pass a resolution that it does not politically recognize lukashenko as the elected president and this is the official course lukashenko is not recognized as the elected president, but this did not prevent ukraine in the 21st year from trading with belarusians extremely active to provide them
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lukashenko reads to belarusians a positive balance of 3 billion dollars. that is, we financed the last dictator of europe for 3 billion dollars. forgive me for the word. this is your terminology, you say . the verkhovna rada in these issues and in those issues and in these issues regarding the recognition of belarus as an aggressor country is not quite a subject, to put it mildly. apparently, after all, it is not in the verkhovna rada that this decision will be made , yes and why are they registering then the draft resolution is an imitation of violent activity. everything is in accordance with the laws, norms and so on, but i will remind our listeners that foreign policy is determined by the president and the verkhovna rada can only make a political gesture - to say
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that lukashenko is a man and they are all women. i am not i deny that he is an accomplice to aggression, i am not, he himself calls himself that, but let's try to analyze what this will lead to, that is, good. we are breaking diplomatic relations, the question arises how we will conduct a dialogue with the belarusian democratic forces when we say that we and belarus want to receive reparations, here i am i would like to explain, i would be happy to talk with our parliamentarians on this topic, i think that we have such opportunities to have them, well, we say that we will conduct a dialogue with you, but you you will pay money, right? well, it turns out that it is. and i didn't fully understand your point of view. yes, you supported the severance of diplomatic relations with minsk, or do you think that it is inappropriate? no, i do not support the severance of diplomatic relations with minsk , and i i believe that ukraine should act as a platform for holding
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, for example, another new belarus conference, similar to the one that took place in august last year in vilnius. why not offer such a platform in ukraine? why not become a platform for the meeting of all belarusians in ukraine? democratic forces, why what is preventing us? we are interested in somehow normalizing relations with belarus about reparations. what is preventing us? well, i think that the same interests that were in the amount of 3 billion dollars when we bought and bought in belarus do not need electricity. and they bought a lot of bitumen, which is needed, of course, for large-scale construction, simply in an insane amount , plus, i understand that there is interest. well, i would not say that it is a state interest, rather, it is
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an interest in the format of a private state partnerships through reparations to buy a significant part of belarusian enterprises there, at the moment about 40 % of the economy belongs to the state, and this is one of the main differences between belarus and ukraine, and obviously i calculated that after our victory over russia , it will be possible to do something there. but i have one more point that is somewhat confusing. have we already determined the issue of receiving reparations from russia ? it seems to me that we are putting a bit of a horse behind the cart in this matter. we are starting to share the skin of the belarusian bison, which well, of course, we are not exactly friends, and that's the truth , but we have diplomatic relations with them, and
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there were different moments after 1991 , but still, now this initiative looks strange, well, i understand that serhiy prytula wants to be a ranking politician and shape the agenda, but again , this situation looks a little strange, i want to say here that this proposal is an idea, so to speak, according to the draft resolution signed by the people's deputies and that's not only there is a voice there and representatives of european solidarity there are even representatives of the servants of the people, that is, there is some part of deputies from absolutely all political forces who demand that belarus break diplomatic relations and recognize it as an aggressor state . well, if i mentioned two, two projects resolutions that exist under which i spoke vadym galaichuk by the way, the co-chairman of the deputy group for a democratic belarus tells me that it is necessary to act in the parliament
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to hold, let's say, parliamentary hearings about belarusian-ukrainian relations invite people who see and have some vision of these relations zembzas from the ministry of defense from the ministry of economy well, what about us and the country with which we have 184 km of a common border , we just say so goodbye dear and disrespectful from today friends we are with you we won't have anything in common anymore. it turns out that way. well, i understand that if we proceed from this resolution, which is there, then it turns out that it is, but you and i also understand that our verkhovna rada does not work day and night , that in june it is there like one thing the plenary session was planned. well, maybe in july, then it will be more active, that is, you know, this is such a demonstration. i personally associate it with the fact that svitlana tykhanovska spoke with natalia moseichuk. it is clear that the conversation took place
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last week on friday, as i understand it, it was the 17 yes, on friday the 17th, they did on the 16th, yes. thank you. 16, they talked. well, because the african delegation was just there, there was a rocket attack, and they talked, uh, tikhanovskaya actually admitted that there is a need to talk about reparations, so they started this project in order to influence the situation in this way. well, well, then , this is all happening against the background of the statement of both moscow and minsk that russian nuclear weapons may soon be placed on the territory of belarus, so far the ukrainian military and political leadership says that there are no such signs that the weapons have not been deployed yet but nevertheless
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, how does this word affect the possible severance of diplomatic relations with minsk, is it whether they will take it into account and whether it should be taken into account? just fine are we severing diplomatic relations, are we not losing the tools of influence on belarus in this way? i understand that they are far from ideal and we are, in principle, p yevgeny , in principle, they are these influences, now they are, they are, as far as i know, at the average level of performers before that the ambassador, as you know, has now been recalled after lukashenka's meeting with the popular ihor kyzim, came to kyiv for a consultation and is unlikely to return to minsk, this is also information that is hardly

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