[000:00:00;00] we have created a resource thanks to which you can report any crime against a child in any city at any time, just go to the site and report. and we will launch all possible mechanisms for punishing the criminal of hundreds of countries. there i am natalya leonova congratulations , the united states will provide ukraine with a new powerful aid package, which will be announced tomorrow on the sidelines of the international conference on the reconstruction of ukraine in london

, us secretary of state anthony said blinken, who in the british capital already met with the minister of foreign affairs of great britain, james cleverley, visited the center for assistance to ukrainian refugees and held negotiations with the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro kuleba . representatives of more than 50 countries came to the conference in london not only to discuss the importance of restoring ukraine after this war, but also to make sure that it will be a successful and prosperous democracy and to take concrete steps in this direction, this is what these next few days will be about from the very beginning of russia's aggression against ukraine, president biden has said that we will support ukraine as long as necessary, and both our countries are deeply committed to this. we talked and our positions coincide in almost everything. ensuring

the future of ukraine as a safe sovereign independent nation requires not only security support, but also support for its economy , democracy and full integration into europe more about state secretary blinken's visit to great britain, preparations and expectations from the international conference on the reconstruction of ukraine, we will talk with our european correspondent bohdan tsyupany, who joins our broadcast from london . greetings bohdan, secretary of state anthony blinken met with minister of foreign affairs james cleverley what is known at this time about the details of this meeting and have there already been any proposals or possible visions of the parties regarding the ways of restoring ukraine, well , actually, from the meeting, a-a has been heard, for example, by himself the secretary of state has just been on our air and we also have other statements after er these short

talks regarding the er conference , it seems to me that at this stage on the eve of the actual event it is very interesting to pay attention to the fact that er politicians talk a lot not only about the economic but also about the political aspects, and by the way, now you see how the american and british government officials visited the ukrainian church in london, that is, the emphasis on supporting ukraine is very great and the emphasis is on the fact that it is about the importance of political the aspect of financial and economic assistance, because in order to really rebuild ukraine, political security and other guarantees are needed, which are much broader than the simple allocation of money, and in particular , the british minister of foreign affairs mentioned this today here in london, where

the conference will be held during this week it will be about encouraging the private sector to invest in the reconstruction and restoration of ukraine, we understand that this means that we must show that those investments will effective and that they will be protected, this of course means further guarantees that the ukrainians seek, that when they successfully return their territory, there will be no new invasion, their further integration into the euro-atlantic and european institutions, which of course they also seek, but of course this means help in the reforms of their institutions that will facilitate investment in their country, what we have already seen is how, thanks to our support and encouragement, the rapid transformation of their armed forces into very effective military

structures is taking place, and we want to see the same pace and reforming their government institutions on the maidan after the meeting with cloverley anthony blinken i had the opportunity to talk with minister kuleba, and the day before the prime minister had a telephone conversation with president zelensky , do you know what the ukrainian government expected from this conference ? in his speech to the conference tomorrow, he compares this business of economic reconstruction of ukraine with a military counter-offensive, and there and then he is going to say tomorrow that the british prime minister needs achievements pressure is needed and ukrainians obviously expect success when it comes to huge sums, according to the estimates of international financial institutions, ukraine's needs for reconstruction may

amount to about four hundred billion us dollars, these are huge funds. and secretary of state blinkin, it was probably in particular about the significant political aspects of the case, which were already mentioned a little earlier by the british minister , the nato summit is approaching, ukraine is expecting security guarantees, which are obviously very necessary for the economic revival of ukraine, and i know that we have the opportunity to listen to a quote from the ukrainian minister, but what he drew attention to here in london today, for the next two days, we will focus mainly on the recovery and reconstruction of ukraine . i would like to thank the united states for their unwavering commitment to the cause because

it is not enough to simply have a good recovery plan, it is critical to have a mechanism that will support that plan and the united states play a very important role in helping us deploy this mechanism, the business community is ready to participate in the recovery. but how, in its opinion, should its interaction with western institutions be built? well, for this, i think it is worth mentioning that the current event is what will be the next two days here in london, which called the conference on the restoration of ukraine began in 2017 and was held every year as a conference on reforming ukraine and reforming ukraine, if you heard from the british minister of foreign affairs, it is very important for the funds that are already

are allocated by other countries and international institutions for ukraine so that they do not sink , so that they are used as effectively as possible to benefit ukraine and let's say the fight against corruption or simply the creation of institutional reform so that you cannot effectively use these funds that ukraine expects of great importance, and in particular for entrepreneurs who are expected to invest their funds, it is also very important , important issues of justice, it is important how, say, contracts will be distributed and about this was said, for example, by business representative roman vashchuk today on voice of america when he presented the position of entrepreneurs to promote e-e in equal access to resources by both ukrainian and international businesses should

involve the participation of ukrainian firms in the reconstruction of e-e, that is, that it is not all going to some foreign advisers or a contract, but it also does not turn into some kind of e-e providing contacts for acquaintances like in the city of bohdana, the day before minister james clover said that great britain will not lift sanctions from russia until moscow pays the entire debt compensation for the losses of our country, also the british government introduced a new mechanism for using frozen russian assets for the recovery of ukraine. please tell us about these initiatives. well, regarding the mechanism, the mechanism is actually very simple. it is part of the laws proposed by the british government that will allow the preservation of freezing

of russian assets or legal or natural persons accused of involvement in the russian war against ukraine in relation to their use, there are certain difficulties even now it is interesting, interesting. there is a proposal that, let's say, individuals or legal entities can voluntarily agree to the fact that these frozen funds are used to help ukraine, and recently there was such a news report from unofficial sources about, for example, several billion worth of frozen funds from the russian businessman roman abramovich and according to with these messages, he is not yet ready for his money to go to the aid of ukrainians only , but these are unofficial messages, i think that

we will probably hear more about this later and we will tell you about it. in the coming broadcasts , our european correspondent bohdan tsyupan was in direct contact with us from london. on june 20, the united nations celebrates world refugee day. according to the organization, as of june 14, a record 110 million people around the world were forced evicted from their homes due to wars and persecution, the war of russia against ukraine , the flight of people from afghanistan and the hostilities in the ani court contributed to the growth of the total number of refugees to an unprecedented level - they said to the un refugee agency, however, how the russian war against ukraine affected the migration situation in the united states, my colleague kateryna lisonova understood the details of the battle, the plot, according to official data, from february 2022

, more than 270,000 ukrainians entered the united states, of which almost 130,000 were accepted under the program unity for the sake of ukraine, more than 200,000 americans became sponsors of ukrainians under this program. such data are provided by the department of internal security, the officials who manage this program, immigration law in general, especially the silent bloc of the united states and what was done for ukrainians is also extremely difficult, that is, the implementation of these special programs, such as access by password and access by the program, even by npu ukraine, this was an unprecedented decision for other citizens of other countries . is unique and similar programs for citizens of other countries were also modeled after it, but the united states government did not grant ukrainians refugee status , instead they received a special humanitarian password valid for two years while the refugee status allows its owners to apply for a green card

after a year, the status in which ukrainians are now in two years, there is no further action plan , in addition, the currently indicated term of stay of ukrainians ends simply in the midst of political races in the usa, when the migration issue is usually very acute who is waiting for the ukrainians after the two-year password expires, and in fact this is a rather speculative question because no one has an answer to it. and from the point of view of the ukrainian state, the ukrainian state is interested in the return of its citizens because after the end of the war, the state will need ukrainians who will rebuild this state, but the question is that for most ukrainians, this status will end in a year, and when there will be a huge political campaign in the united states on the seventh in june, the house of representatives registered a bill that should allow ukrainians with a humanitarian password to stay in the united states for permanent residence, the law is called

ukrainianact, its authors spoke representatives of the ukrainian congressional corps, our country is becoming better thanks to our ukrainian emigrants and we want them to know that they have a home here, they are welcome here and that people who obey the law and contribute to the economy of our country and to other sectors of public services so that they have the opportunity stay here this bill sends a signal about who we are also it should be an example to the rest of the world for countries that are trying to achieve the same as us i think we should also speed up the work permit process so that it happens a lot sooner than now, however, legal experts are skeptical of this bill. it is still a bill that has a very dubious perspective. the purpose of this bill is to help ukrainian refugees. in fact, the wording is sufficient from the point of view of the legislation

. the wording is ridiculous because the american legislation had i would like to know that the ukrainians who arrived here were not granted the status of refugees . therefore, obviously, the first issue will be the actual correction of this draft law so that it reflects the correct legal definitions and how and who will be able to come here to stay and who will be clarified. they are also skeptical of ukrainian immigrants in the united states. in crimea, the legislators on whose vote the fate of the bill will actually depend. the latter note that they support ukraine, but also take into account their own migration crisis , which america is in. usa i think they are good people, they respect the law and i think they can become good citizens but i also hope that they can return to the motherland where they will be needed for the process of recovery and return will be much easier from europe than from the established states

. at the same time, the process of ukrainians entering the usa has become much more complicated. if literally everyone was accepted after february 2022, then over the past year and a half, the american government has faced abuses and strengthened inspection procedures, as every program has always had abuses. from the side of both and the beneficiaries, therefore, the immigration service and the border service are much more careful now, they look at a. the body is physically in the united states, so at the moment the legal future of ukrainians who arrived in the usa after a full-scale invasion remains uncertain kateryna lisunova oleksiy osika - voice of america washington since the beginning of the war ukraine is one of the top three countries from which the largest number of refugees come, namely 5 million 700 000 of them more than a million have moved to neighboring poland, some found work and housing, while others still live in refugee centers. our

film crew saw 11 of them in warsaw. lesia bakalets will tell this building on the outskirts of warsaw is more likely to be our home for a long time. until march 2022, it was an exhibition center in the global expo. after the start of a full-scale invasion, it remained a center, but polish and ukrainian businessmen, volunteers and non-profit organizations created a shelter for ukrainian refugees. 60-year-old tayana lada lives here we brought it from zaporizhzhia for several months, our favorite toy, kuzyava , a homemade kuzir, kuzya the cat, and a collection of silver rings, the main treasures that tanya took with her from her native zaporizhzhia to leave city. she decided after another shelling by the russian army when a rocket fell next to the house and in principle it is not scary to die , it is scary when you stay forever in the center for refugees and yana has about a thousand

neighbors, they all live in a group in this huge hall with large windows in the ceiling at first the beds here were just next to each other. when i arrived, our two halls were completely full, and it will be like that. a folding house near a folding house, about 2,000 people were also there . children are screaming, dogs are cats, elena from vinnytsia is here almost from the very beginning, she was going to poland, she was sure that she would have a place to live. because she had already paid for the rent of a room in warsaw in ukraine , she was counting on what i had left from my savings from ukraine, and it turned out that i called the numbers where i transferred money from my ukrainian card to them. they don't answer at the railway station, volunteers advised elena about this center, a cook by profession, later the girl became the manager of a local canteen, it is located right across the corridor from the main hall elena and her assistants feed the residents of the center three times a day first ordinary, a lot of people came to us and i was working, uh, it happened that at night we got up, the bus has to come

, we cook some pasta, cook some canned goods , open some sandwiches because 50-60 people will come there, 100 people now there are much fewer people, says olena, conditions in the center became better a few months ago, volunteers made low plywood partitions around the beds , so the residents have a certain privacy , but they cannot offer more here. no , even light doors are not allowed fire safety regulations, however, for many, these small rooms are the only home they have left, who works in the kitchen. i have three from crimea , they fled through russia, and four from donetsk, two from zaporozhye and two from kyiv, that is, people who, in fact, until the war is over, have nowhere to go and return every new resident here is registered and issued with a name badge, then in order a bed, bedding and all the necessary things, sometimes people come with one bag, sometimes without it, there is a medical center right there

, help with documents for moving further on in europe, psychologists come to visit us every week. we have massage therapists who help people with rehabilitation. this can be an organization, for example, how to move to norway, to england, to spain, how to travel, what documents are needed on the upper floors , a kindergarten and a primary school 23 students of different e and first and second third and fourth grade we we in the program of the ukrainian new ukrainian school and a teacher of the younger classes with her daughter they fled from the occupied novaya kakhovka last september we had the only other way out of the kherson region is the crimea and then russia, lithuania, latvia and then poland . we spent four days. this is an opportunity for some sort of bed

. i fell into depression. how exactly did i fall into depression? i realized that life is over for me . many residents of the center share such feelings . volunteers are trying to help them find a job. is housing better if they already can? afford it, but the majority can't. i'm looking, i'm looking for any that will match my current condition . i want a cleaning lady. 3-4 hours. my spine will last for 3-4 hours. volunteers admit here. who lives from the very opening, some simply get stuck in the center, everything they need under one roof . and often even go outside. there is no need for the majority to walk around the center in house slippers . children adapt to such living conditions the fastest. there are about 300 of them here. we have a lot of children who are so married that they are really perceived on the one hand.

i don't know what kind of camp. well, because the problem is that they go to the adults to their parents, and for the children, such conditions are created here that they woke up, had breakfast, ran to school, learned, but the children still remember the experience, says the teacher of igor's room a refugee from luhansk region, olena , having experience with articles, children, paints black , i hide a little, i say let's make a life that is bright and the drawings really turn out like what is on paper, what is with chalk on the asphalt in front of the center, the majority of residents who are with us they talked, they really want to go home, some, on the contrary, have already resigned themselves to the fact that they may never return , in the meantime, another evacuation bus drove up to the center , inside instead of most of the chairs, hospital beds, new residents of the shelter on crutches and wheelchairs began to be registered in the center , volunteers say that for the second year of the war, they visit them every day 40-50 new refugees are arriving lesya bakalets voice of america from warsaw war

psychologically traumatizes all people who identify themselves as ukrainians iryna andruh military psychologist came to these conclusions candidate of sciences, lieutenant colonel of the armed forces of ukraine and a professional negotiator, in an interview with ghani, iryna told how to help ukrainians overcome the psychological trauma of the war, your analysis of the psychological state of the ukrainian nation during the war is impressive , what you write, ukrainians did not become weaker or more frightened, we simply stopped being fully happy how to deal with this, ukrainians are becoming a nation without happiness, they do not feel it . that is, these are terrible numbers, and we are talking about the fact that absolutely everyone who was affected by the war that is, 100% of these people will have problems with mental health and recovery in the future, here we are talking about the fact that there are non

-citizens of ukraine or people who left ukraine either arbitrarily or were born outside of ukraine, but they really identify themselves with ukraine, they understand that they are ukrainians by origin, i.e. 100% of people who identify themselves with ukraine, they are all under the influence of a psycho-traumatic situation. that is, we need to engage specialists now who will start working, not to talk about programs, not to speak at conferences, not to raise these topics at the world level and no, you just have to go and work, you have to go to the people, and where are these headquarters where psychologists are accepted well , where is the ministry of emergency situations , it cannot cope with such a volume, and teach people to talk about even the first steps of providing psychological

help, it is possible, maybe you can teach your neighbor , i am the one who supports with a kind word, that is, let's stop breeding bureaucracy, populism and work, act, everything, there is no time to act old-fashioned and say pathetic beautiful things, this is not saves ukrainians and it is not necessary to take people abroad , it can be done within the borders of ukraine only after we eliminate the stress factor. that is , there will be no such war at all, then we can talk about the path to full recovery. and at the present at this stage, we can support and support the psychological health of ukrainians. how do you assess the information field in which ukrainians currently live, or do you really think that during the war there is a desire in the media to downplay the reality of the threats? i believe that

now information is presented in portions and a little censored. that is, we do not have 100% of the truth about what is happening in the country, and i think that on the one hand, it is probably right so that you do not provide additional information to the enemy, on the other hand, it is not quite right because - and the population of ukraine forms a reality for itself that does not exist, i.e. there is no more truth. yes, it will be traumatic , but it is important to convey it to people, i.e. a solid setting for positivity does a disservice to the psyche, positive thinking is very good when everything is fine when in

you war you don't need to do that and say oh, everything is fine, everything is fine, go ahead, but it's not good, but there's a war in the country, and you still need to adjust people to the fact that it's difficult, it's difficult for psychologists to live in a state of war , it's difficult to understand psychologically that you don't have water or electricity, or you don't know when and where a rocket will fly, you need to talk about it because people are starting to fear their true feelings, i'm scared. i think something is short-lived, but i can't talk about it because everyone tells me everything is fine, you're alive everything okay, maybe from the outside a person is alive, she walks, she performs some activity, but her soul and psyche are already half-dead, because the war still destroys not only physically, but

morally, is it possible to bring back to life this, as you say, half-dead part of the psyche , i will say right away that this knowledge and this experience it will remain forever we cannot erase our memory and say that nothing happened, but the impact of a psychotraumatic situation can be reduced and it can be done even so that it will not have a significant impact on the further life of a person, it will remain only as a historical note. i survived the war thanks to your missions and negotiations. thousands of people were saved from dangerous places. orphaned children were taken out. do you have an explanation for the actions of terrorists, what pushes people to such actions and such crimes? psychological injuries, there is the influence of propaganda, this is all formed in childhood by our

families or the place where we grow up , because not every child has a family, unfortunately , this is all from childhood, so if we take care of our children, their mental health health, about their education. i am sure that none of the ukrainians will ever start a war, and if we spread this program to the world, i am sure that all wars will end, there is no sense in killing each other , there is no sense in general. america time time also join our daily briefings from monday to friday at 18:00 kyiv time on youtube and on depo's facebook live, you will be able to ask your questions to our

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