[000:00:00;00] uh, because uh, in fact, the americans today are pushing russia out of uh, the indian market , that is, if we remember that india during the last many years, uh, was a country where russia uh, uh, simply poured uh, all of her weapons and uh- it was not about millions of dollars, it was about billions of dollars. so imagine what will happen when india turns into a biksha and russia will no longer have a certain element of influence on what is happening in india , and the supply of weapons has always been is and probably still a certain period of time will be a very

serious element when the country can in such a way, well, at least to influence the position of the country to which such weapons are transferred . so, i think this is quite an interesting game of american diplomacy. well, let's not forget again that in america they want to create a certain in this part of the world er, well, such an alliance is an alliance of er, democratic countries, which er, would include japan, australia , new zealand, and the same india. therefore, i think now the americans will work for a very long time and seriously to shift this focus of indian foreign policy from on the russian vector to the western one

of course, india now earns money from oil, this is true, on the other hand, the sanctions that are imposed on and introduced in connection with russian oil do not allow india to actually receive hard currency because they have now agreed with the russians to calculate still have to calculate all these things in national currencies, that is, in the european group, and in india there are already a lot of uh, many currencies, uh, of the same uh, rupees, many rubles, which, unfortunately, they cannot convert into dollars because uh it will fall under e-e restriction e event e so even this accumulation of money to a certain extent has its limit after which it will lose its meaning because you can accumulate candy

but when you can't convert it into dollars that's why india needs them so the same and this has its end. and i think that this era, while india is accumulating er oil er and revenue, it too will not reach its end very quickly, so what ukraine can win is to fight for a place or for exclusion from the organization of the united nations of the russian federation because according to the former representative of ukraine at the un, volodymyr yelchenko, russia, contrary to the un charter and international law, usurped the place of the soviet union, we have repeatedly discussed this with you, mr. volodymyr, as it was in 1991, and mr. yelchenko proposed scenarios for the exclusion of the russian federation from

the general assembly, we will hear that said volodymyr , a possible solution is the expulsion of russia from the united nations, including a permanent seat on the un security council, due to non-recognition of its right to be, as they call themselves, an extension of the membership of the former soviet union, the simplest scenarios are the decision of the credentials committee regarding the non-recognition of the mandate of the village delegation due to the documents i mentioned or through the decision of the un general assembly , as was done in the case of the republic of south africa , whose mandate is due to the policy of appetite have not been recognized for more than 20 years, here is the story of how russia took over the powers of the soviet union in the un. i think that you

have come across this many times and discussed this story. moreover , not only in the un general assembly, but also in security council of the un because ukraine, the ukrainian ssr , was the founder of the united nations, as well as belarusians and the rsfsr. as far as i understand, it was not the founder of how to deal with russia in this situation. my colleague volodymyr yanchenko spoke about what we, within the framework of our center for the study of russia , brought up for discussion not so long ago . well, no

we try to understand the age. and according to our experience , so to speak. for the sake of security, he just takes her to retire, takes her by the hand, leads him out somehow, it won't work. what should be done in order to at least not give her the opportunity to work in the organization of the united nations. and as a result of this, uh, several hours of discussion we have a conclusion about what actually volodymyr said now yanchenko said that the easiest way is to not recognize the powers of the delegation of the russian federation, because you know that on the eve of each session of the general assembly , the committee on powers meets to check the powers of the delegations that intend to take part in the work of the next session, so there is no

need for it unanimously no there is no need for permanent members of the un security council to vote there, but only for and so on, and it itself is small in terms of composition, there are less than 10 member countries of this committee, so i think er here there is a certain chance , of course, for this it is necessary that a decision about uh, criticizes the un very much and they say criticize some officials there who are not working well, who are not doing anything, but we need the un. well, it seems to me that we don't need such an organization because it doesn't fulfill its main function, it doesn't uh

ensures that there is peace and she is not ensures that this peace is restored if it is violated. and these are the key tasks that were conceived when this organization was created , that is, if something does not fulfill its functions , then it turns out to be unnecessary and to form it in such a situation as it is today it is legally impossible. therefore, it is necessary to look for ways in which, let's say, the aggressor country can simply be truly singled out from among others and give them the opportunity to participate in the work of the organization and, therefore, in the work of the un security council itself, otherwise, simply the oun can to repeat the fate of the league of nations correctly, i understand practically er practically now this is what we are talking about, that is, if for a certain period of time we will see this absolute impotence of the un , well, then er, it will definitely repeat

the fate of the league of nations, especially since there are reasons for this more than enough, this week in london, mr. volodymyr, there was also a big international conference on the reconstruction of ukraine , and the secretary of state of the united states of america, anthony blinking, spoke there . he talked about how much the united states of america will allocate 1 billion 300 million dollars to ukraine for reconstruction, the united states of america is now allocating to energy and infrastructure needs, also according to blinkin , the united states of america is investing 520 million dollars in the modernization of the ukrainian energy system , while the secretary of state of the united states of america said that the destruction of ukraine is caused by russia so in the end she herself will have to bear the costs of restoring the country

, let's hear blinkin all these reforms and restoration efforts depends on whether she has ukraine 's ability to defend itself against future russian attacks. that's why even if we invest in immediate and long-term recovery, we must also invest in a ukrainian army that will be strong enough to protect ukraine's sovereignty , territorial integrity and independence, and polish president andrzej duda told us in an exclusive interview. he said that russia should fully pay compensation for the connection and not in ukraine and added that if russia is allowed to win, the invaders will continue their attack on poland and other countries of the former soviet

the union will see. fortunately, no one serious about us in the international arena has any doubts that this compensation should be paid by russia as soon as this money is received from russia , at least through the use of frozen russian capital in the world, and here is the structure of the restoration of ukraine for compensation, that is, for the restoration of this action of the infrastructure that was destroyed and to compensate those who suffered losses, the sooner justice will be restored and the sooner we will return to a normal world. on international platforms and in ukraine as well. because we can't even imagine the exact amount of compensation that russia has to pay for reparations and to compensate ukraine for the lost factories

, infrastructure, houses, apartments, buildings, that is , so far it's hard to say, what do you think, mr. volodymyr, about this responsibility financial responsibility to be borne by the russian federation or whether it will be fulfilled by the russian federation and whether there are enough resources outside the borders of the russian federation of the arrested to cover these losses ukraine's figures regarding the damages already caused to our state are truly astronomical. well, we are talking about 700-750 billion dollars, and this was before the kakhovka hpp . we still don't know what lies

ahead . well, some of the viewers who, well, dealing with this topic more or less carefully, say that the sum of one trillion dollars cannot be ruled out. well, that is, in fact, these are really sky-high, sky-high sums. and here , of course, we will have to think about how, uh, they can be collected from russia, and the options here are different, of course you are absolutely right you are talking about the fact that it is necessary to look for opportunities in order to compensate for these losses from the seized russian property , you see now, unfortunately, lawyers can not find a way, how is it correct to deal with private investments of those or other persons and with the property of russia itself as a state and

the legal battles between each other and among everyone in order to find this formula , how to make the confiscation of the russian property of all states legal well , it seems to me that in this case it should be accepted on legal and political decisions, because i don't want to offend any of the lawyers, but where there are two lawyers , there are three opinions, this is such an old, ancient story, as they say, and if we allow them to continue to prove, what to prove it is impossible, then we will never get a result. by the way, uh, abroad, uh, in russia, uh, there is also uh, another huge uh , financial resource, so to speak, this is the foreign property of the former ussr, which russia

has appropriated brought to ukraine and i think that the time will come when we will return to this topic bo 16 comma 37%, eh foreign property of the ussr belongs to ukraine. we did not sign any agreements with russia , we did sign an agreement between the governments, but it was not ratified and was not in force. that is, in fact, it was an agreement on intentions, but it did not come into force. therefore, this is also a topic that needs to be thought about, that needs to be worked on. well, let me not forget that russia is a country with a lot of natural resources and not much that can be used after its defeat, but here again the main thing is what we approach in

any -which debate should russia lose and uh, in this context, what our western partners are doing is extremely important. we have to ask questions tougher and tougher because uh, to win uh, well, it is not possible with an insufficient number of weapons. i don't think that any nato general would accept uh would be a decision about counteroffensive when there is no closed sky when it is a city that goes on the offensive can be the object of an attack from the air but in the meantime , our heroes do even such things , but we have to think about what we not china , which has 1.5 billion per population and, well, yes it just can't go on for long. we can't sacrifice the most valuable of our sons and daughters. and by the way

, i'll tell you that the statement of mr. olympin that was quoted is worth it. to ensure the ability to independently defend against russia, gentlemen , yes, yes, it won't work , yes, we will either be together for russia's dinner . simply not and what the president said will be the one you quoted and absolutely fair, if ukraine can’t stand it, then it will be poland , then there will be the baltic countries, then it will be anything else, because this moscow beast can only really be destroyed, volodymyr, you mentioned the agreement on the zero option , it was called the one on the distribution of assets and liabilities of the former soviet union

. well, according to it, as far as i remember, russia took over our liabilities, that is, our debts, and tried to block it, and this agreement was signed, if i remember correctly betrays masolom, the prime minister of ukraine at that time, and this agreement was not ratified. it was submitted to the verkhovna rada several times in the 90s . it was not only about the premises, diplomatic institutions and buildings that were in the soviet union abroad, it was about gold and diamonds, and there our share was 16,72,72%. according to you, is it really possible to return to the topic of the distribution of assets and liabilities, taking into account the fact that this agreement was not legally binding in ukraine, i.e. taking into account for the fact that russia also caused

us so much damage , they could compensate, well, if this could be set off , our liabilities for the soviet union could be offset. back in the 90s, to give us complete information about the assets and liabilities of the soviet union, we always received the answer that our liabilities are like that, and we have no data on assets. well, somewhere in the same spirits or at all we have not received any responses uh to the question about and what about the pluses, and the pluses were much more than the minuses, and it is precisely because of this that russia, as a country that always steals and lies , built its own line on this issue, and it really covered the debts of the soviet union

to the polish the influence of the territory and said that since i covered them, i have the valid right to dispose of the assets as well. what will we say? dear friends, it is your right to say so, but there is international law that looks at it differently, and that is why we consider our legal position i is absolutely normal and impeccable that uh our our our dispute with russia regarding debts and assets is not over and i will tell you frankly this uh is an absolutely uh normal situation if we return to this topic when we sum up everything that the russian federation has done and in this way, we should also raise questions about foreign property and , as you correctly said, the diamond fund

and the assets of the former banks of the ussr , which actually stole all the assets of the all e-e banks of e-e union republics, including in ukraine and so on. we have all these data, that's all uh-uh absolutely uh-uh, clear documented documents and facts, so i think there will be no problems here, the only issue is that we could start implementing this idea, it is uh-uh quite realistic, sir volodymyr, the vilnius nato summit is to be held in july, there are many different positions on what this summit should give to ukraine, the spokeswoman for the united states department of defense, sabrina singh, said that ukraine will join nato

in its own way, she replied to questions about the prospects of our country joining the north atlantic alliance, and here's what she answered to accusations that the united states of america and great britain become participants in the war when they supply ukraine with long-range weapons. and we support their efforts to return their sovereign territory, mr. volodymyr, what can ukraine really claim at the nato summit in vilnius, you see, there are two points here to which we should pay attention to our desires and to a realistic assessment of the situation that is currently our desire is obvious and absolutely correct, we

have clearly and clearly decorated our desire to join the alliance since 2008, this thesis is written in our constitutions we have proven a thousand times over with everything that is happening now that we protect the values ​​of nato, the values ​​of this structure, which is looking for ways in which we will not be accepted for a certain period of time, it is very sad, it is very unpleasant, but it is a fact. this fact is... today it is reinforced by the constant that the nato countries created for themselves and said that we will never in our lives be a part of this war, we will not enter a war with the russian federation, they accepted it at the highest political level and

leave it. so, during the of real hostilities between russia and ukraine, the issue of ukraine becoming a member of nato, well, in fact , they reject it. they will not implement any circumstances. so we need to change this situation and stop the war. to- to the smallest degree with russia, which will allow us to ask this question, which means that we must liberate our territory until the moment that our territory is liberated, or we must say that we claim to join nato in a limited territorial area, so to speak, choose what for what, no one it won't work, obviously, or we have to push ourselves to the end, but at that moment when the last russian boot will be thrown out of ukrainian land

, at that moment we must firmly and clearly and loudly say, now please give us the guarantees that you must give as issued it is finland and sweden during their accession and after that. believe me, not a single shot in the direction of ukraine will stop because russia will understand that if ukraine has the guarantees of the usa, britain , france there or other uh-uh still other nuclear uh-uh still other nato countries it will mean that well, then a shot at the border of the conditional kharkiv oblast or sumy oblast will mean that they are shooting at the united states of america. and that is a completely different story . well, this is the reality, unfortunately , we have to live with it, we have to understand it. -is

exactly and as it is. well, to demand as much as possible from our american and other western friends during the summit in vilnius, so that we get as quickly as possible what will help us to fulfill this main task of getting rid of the russian aggressor from our land, everything the rest will be after that, whether ukraine can get the same guarantees as finland before joining nato, and we have to ask the question like this, you know , the strengthened budapest two, let them keep it for themselves, let them keep it for themselves, let obama leave it for myself, all those other people who led to the fact that we have what we have today, because the moral responsibility lies with them, it is they who created the monster that weighs us down today in the first place, but i also threaten them when they tell that

they give out a lot of money, that's true, but it's a payment for their own short-sightedness, lack of understanding of what russia is, and unwillingness to see even a little bit beyond their own nose, so they have to pay for it. well, even more so , the budapest memorandum was still an obligation to them at least one of the participants remains of this memorandum and violated it correctly, well, you know, now we don't have to talk about the budapest memorandum, it uh, it remained a piece of paper uh, it's very sad that it happened like this, it's very sad that uh, at that time, uh, we couldn't even imagine what could happen is very sad that we did not want to write down the mechanism for implementing this memorandum except for one point that it is necessary to gather a consultation , but if someone does not want consultations, then they do not take place. so, it is a great

pity that only a political document remained without of real practical content, this is also our mistake well, but uh, you know about it now, it's easier to talk about what uh, what happened then, uh , during very tough negotiations, when ukraine was pressured, what uh, what russians, what americans, well, and at the end of our conversation, the last question as of today, volodymyr, this father's legislative base was once a contractual basis from russia , which is hundreds of documents that, well, that is, these bases do not exist anymore , after all. none can be in principles, and the entire contractual basis. the base that was created will definitely be subject to correction after the end of the war. since we do not know whether this territory will be preserved, i mean russian as a single state, or it

will be economical to choose some of other states. will they be completely independent states ? that will determine the fate of everything that will happen after. i think that there will be no return to the international power that was with russia. thank you, vladimir, for the conversation. this was volodymyr ogrysko - a politician diplomat minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-2009 friends we are working live on espresso tv channel for those who are currently watching us live on youtube and facebook please like this video subscribe to our social networks become a sponsor of our youtube channel now you will see after scanning the qr code, you will get detailed information and instructions on how to join our sponsor club. we will be grateful for any help. and read our news on

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